Posted November 5, 200717 yr References: <#nnB2t8HIHA.3956@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl> In-Reply-To: <#nnB2t8HIHA.3956@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <#LX1g18HIHA.1164@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl> Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.general NNTP-Posting-Host: c-67-182-102-86.hsd1.ca.comcast.net 67.182.102.86 Path: TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl Lines: 1 Xref: TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl microsoft.public.windowsxp.general:1786942 Tim.T wrote: > This machine and its pre-installed Samsung hard drive is barely 3 years old. > I've been checking the error logs for XP and I've started to see the > following error event. According to the log it is listed from 17/10/2007, > through to 5/11/2007, though curiously it isn't listed on the 3/11/2007, so > either I wasn't logged on that day or the error never occurred. I have no > other drive-related errors logged other than this one: > > Event ID - 51 - An error was detected on device \Device\Harddisk0\D > > I have the 160Gb drive partitioned into 6. These errors always seem to refer > to partition D. Now, I've searched and searched the Web for this, trying to > find possible solutions, with little success. The main consensus seems to be > that error events of this nature seem to have NO definite cause; they are > found in systems of varying configuration, with no commonality. Software > makers say it's hardware, hardware makers say it's software! The page on > MS's Help and Support suggests rather unhelpfully that if this occurs on a > primary drive (which it is), then "you should replace the device", > otherwise, there is no problem. > > I have no problems writing to, reading from or accessing this Samsung drive; > nor am I hearing any "clicks of death". I've used chkdsk on all partitions > with only "minor" errors being reported and corrected, apart from one on C: > drive which could be related. I tried using /F but even after it ran during > bootup, the error remains: > > CHKDSK discovered free space marked as allocated in the > master file table (MFT) bitmap. > CHKDSK discovered free space marked as allocated in the volume bitmap. > Windows found problems with the file system. > > I know drive failure can be spontaneous and catastrophic, but I have yet to > suffer any. The last time a drive died it was soley due to over-heating - I > had two drives in the case and one rather dodgy fan. The result was > predictable. This drive is in a state-of-the-art case with two fully > functional fans, and my health monitor says the HD is currently at 34C. > > So, is this error really a portent of impending doom, or just a harmless > indicator of nothing in particular? All the SMART indicators for it show no > errors, and everything is "OK". Obviously it isn't that SMART... Download the drive mftr.'s diagnostic utility or use Seagate's SeaTools Desktop. You will create a bootable CD or floppy (use third-party burning software for the bootable CD). Boot with the media you've created and do a thorough test of the drive. If it fails any physical tests, replace it. If you don't already back up your data, now is the time to do it. The drive may not fail right away but why take chances? The fact that you've only had one hard drive fail before is irrelevant. Overheating is not the only reason that hard drives fail. As for the age, drives can fail out of the box or go for years. A hard drive's average life is 3-5 years. Since the diagnostic test is free and easy to do, there is no reason to wait. Malke -- Elephant Boy Computers http://www.elephantboycomputers.com "Don't Panic!" MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User
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