registry cleaner and back up

Posted November 3, 200717 yr

Dell 4600-4 years old, xp home sp2, 2.66Ghz, 768 mb ram, user 5 scale 1-10.

need reliable cleaner and ez way to back up first. Thank you

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Grampy Pete

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November 3, 200717 yr

Grampy Pete wrote:

> Dell 4600-4 years old, xp home sp2, 2.66Ghz, 768 mb ram, user 5 scale 1-10.

> need reliable cleaner and ez way to back up first. Thank you

Grampy:

To do it right will cost you some money, vis:

Buy a USB backup drive. They come in 80-250 gigabyte size. Figure

around $100-$150 dollars.

Invest $60-or-so in either Norton "Ghost" or Acronis "True Image"

software. *Thoroughly* understand what the software does before you start.

Ignore the "Registry Cleaner" aspect. Simply not necessary in 99 out of

100 cases.

That's probably not the answer you were hoping for, but it is the "best"

way to do it.

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No such thing as a reliable cleaner.

"Grampy Pete" <llewon@hotmail.com> wrote in message

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> Dell 4600-4 years old, xp home sp2, 2.66Ghz, 768 mb ram, user 5 scale

> 1-10.

> need reliable cleaner and ez way to back up first. Thank you

> --

> Grampy Pete

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November 3, 200717 yr

well, it depends.

when one says backup

nowadays, it is no longer

a simple dos backup of

a little 40 megabyte

harddisk.

now you can not only

backup up the disk, but

have the option to backup

up the system files only or

just the registry or just the

personal files you create

and store on your pc.

in my opinion disk

imaging is better than the

old backup method.

here is more information

but the question you asked

has many answers and no one

here knows which is best for

your particular situation:

http://www.microsoft.com/protect/yourself/data/what.mspx

http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/using/setup/maintain/default.mspx

you can also try googling for

microsoft one care &

system mechanic.

the two programs above are provided

as examples and they do have their

drawbacks, but so does every

software in the world.

in regards to registry cleaners -

the following link is just

one of many possibilities:

http://onecare.live.com/site/en-US/article/registry_cleaner_why.htm

btw: since at this time you

are on a fact finding mission,

so you will need to begin narrowing

down your possibilities or preferences.

if and when you decide to take a certain

course of action, let us know

and we can provide you with

any drawbacks or tips.

--

..

"Grampy Pete" <llewon@hotmail.com> wrote in message

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> Dell 4600-4 years old, xp home sp2, 2.66Ghz, 768 mb ram, user 5 scale 1-10.

> need reliable cleaner and ez way to back up first. Thank you

> --

> Grampy Pete

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http://onecare.live.com/site/en-US/article/registry_cleaner_why.htm

Would you say this is the safest way to go IF a scan was to be done + money

was a concern?.

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Grampy Pete

"db Â´Â¯`Â·.. ><)))Âº>` .. ." wrote:

> well, it depends.

>

> when one says backup

> nowadays, it is no longer

> a simple dos backup of

> a little 40 megabyte

> harddisk.

>

> now you can not only

> backup up the disk, but

> have the option to backup

> up the system files only or

> just the registry or just the

> personal files you create

> and store on your pc.

>

> in my opinion disk

> imaging is better than the

> old backup method.

>

> here is more information

> but the question you asked

> has many answers and no one

> here knows which is best for

> your particular situation:

>

> http://www.microsoft.com/protect/yourself/data/what.mspx

>

> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/using/setup/maintain/default.mspx

>

> you can also try googling for

> microsoft one care &

> system mechanic.

>

> the two programs above are provided

> as examples and they do have their

> drawbacks, but so does every

> software in the world.

>

> in regards to registry cleaners -

> the following link is just

> one of many possibilities:

>

> http://onecare.live.com/site/en-US/article/registry_cleaner_why.htm

>

> btw: since at this time you

> are on a fact finding mission,

> so you will need to begin narrowing

> down your possibilities or preferences.

>

> if and when you decide to take a certain

> course of action, let us know

> and we can provide you with

> any drawbacks or tips.

>

> --

>

>

> ..

>

> "Grampy Pete" <llewon@hotmail.com> wrote in message

> news:A90CD131-F75F-4A96-B47C-4945C3913376@microsoft.com...

> > Dell 4600-4 years old, xp home sp2, 2.66Ghz, 768 mb ram, user 5 scale 1-10.

> > need reliable cleaner and ez way to back up first. Thank you

> > --

> > Grampy Pete

>

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November 4, 200717 yr

i'm glad you asked

and kept up in mind.

well, like many programs

it may be worth every penny

or it may not be what you

expected.

however, i can say this is

that they have 3 versions

of it, if you want to try

out Microsoft's versions.

one version is the full

software that can be

installed and purchased.

then also offer it

as a thirty or sixty day

free trial as well.

then they simply have

the online scanning

version which is free to

use. this version doesn't

install the full program onto

your system as it is designed

to run from the web:

here is the link:

http://onecare.live.com/site/en-US/article/registry_cleaner_why.htm

the version at the link

does not offer the backup

service. also, thy out the

links on the left hand side

as well on the site as well.

something to keep in mind

about this subject - don't

rush to buy. many

companies offer a "free"

trial for at least thirty days.

so you may end up liking

system mechanic better

that one care or vice versa.

you may also simply go a different way

altogether and instead of buying

an all in one program, you may

like buying/getting separate

software's that specialize in

different aspects of your pc.

--

..

"Grampy Pete" <llewon@hotmail.com> wrote in message

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> http://onecare.live.com/site/en-US/article/registry_cleaner_why.htm

>

> Would you say this is the safest way to go IF a scan was to be done + money

> was a concern?.

> --

> Grampy Pete

>

> "db Â´Â¯`Â·.. ><)))Âº>` .. ." wrote:

>

>> well, it depends.

>>

>> when one says backup

>> nowadays, it is no longer

>> a simple dos backup of

>> a little 40 megabyte

>> harddisk.

>>

>> now you can not only

>> backup up the disk, but

>> have the option to backup

>> up the system files only or

>> just the registry or just the

>> personal files you create

>> and store on your pc.

>>

>> in my opinion disk

>> imaging is better than the

>> old backup method.

>>

>> here is more information

>> but the question you asked

>> has many answers and no one

>> here knows which is best for

>> your particular situation:

>>

>> http://www.microsoft.com/protect/yourself/data/what.mspx

>>

>> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/using/setup/maintain/default.mspx

>>

>> you can also try googling for

>> microsoft one care &

>> system mechanic.

>>

>> the two programs above are provided

>> as examples and they do have their

>> drawbacks, but so does every

>> software in the world.

>>

>> in regards to registry cleaners -

>> the following link is just

>> one of many possibilities:

>>

>> http://onecare.live.com/site/en-US/article/registry_cleaner_why.htm

>>

>> btw: since at this time you

>> are on a fact finding mission,

>> so you will need to begin narrowing

>> down your possibilities or preferences.

>>

>> if and when you decide to take a certain

>> course of action, let us know

>> and we can provide you with

>> any drawbacks or tips.

>>

>> --

>>

>>

>> ..

>>

>> "Grampy Pete" <llewon@hotmail.com> wrote in message

>> news:A90CD131-F75F-4A96-B47C-4945C3913376@microsoft.com...

>> > Dell 4600-4 years old, xp home sp2, 2.66Ghz, 768 mb ram, user 5 scale

>> > 1-10.

>> > need reliable cleaner and ez way to back up first. Thank you

>> > --

>> > Grampy Pete

>>

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Grampy Pete wrote:

> http://onecare.live.com/site/en-US/article/registry_cleaner_why.htm

>

> Would you say this is the safest way to go IF a scan was to be

> done + money was a concern?

Relatively safe. That is, probably safer than other registry cleaners.

But as others have said, the safest way to go is not to clean your

registry at all. 99% of the time, it's simply not needed and doesn't

speed anything up at all. If you're interested in speeding up your PC,

see "Slow Computer" at:

http://www3.telus.net/dandemar/slowcom.htm

Most common causes of a slow PC are malware, too many unneeded processes

running, not enough RAM, and failure to delete temp files (followed

occasionally by a defrag).

Once someone presents evidence (not anecdotal) that shows otherwise, it

should be assumed that deleting orphaned registry entries has virtually

no impact on a system. Yes, there are sometimes reasons to do this, but

that's for instances of traces of a program (like Norton or McAfee, for

instance) remaining after uninstalling that actually prevent other

functions to work. Otherwise, you are wise to avoid messing with the

registry as you most likely have nothing at all to gain.

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Grampy Pete wrote:

> Dell 4600-4 years old, xp home sp2, 2.66Ghz, 768 mb ram, user 5 scale 1-10.

> need reliable cleaner and ez way to back up first. Thank you

Why do you think you'd ever need to clean your registry? What

specific *problems* are you actually experiencing (not some program's

bogus listing of imaginary problems) that you think can be fixed by

using a registry cleaner?

If you do have a problem that is rooted in the registry, it would

be far better to simply edit (after backing up, of course) only the

specific key(s) and/or value(s) that are causing the problem. After

all, why use a chainsaw when a scalpel will do the job? Additionally,

the manually changing of one or two registry entries is far less likely

to have the dire consequences of allowing an automated product to make

multiple changes simultaneously. The only thing needed to safely clean

your registry is knowledge and Regedit.exe.

The registry contains all of the operating system's "knowledge" of

the computer's hardware devices, installed software, the location of the

device drivers, and the computer's configuration. A misstep in the

registry can have severe consequences. One should not even turning

loose a poorly understood automated "cleaner," unless he is fully

confident that he knows *exactly* what is going to happen as a result of

each and every change.

Having repeatedly seen the results of inexperienced people using

automated registry "cleaners," I can only advise all but the most

experienced computer technicians (and/or hobbyists) to avoid them all.

Experience has shown me that such tools simply are not safe in the hands

of the inexperienced user. If you lack the knowledge and experience to

maintain your registry by yourself, then you also lack the knowledge and

experience to safely configure and use any automated registry cleaner,

no matter how safe they claim to be.

More importantly, no one has ever demonstrated that the use of an

automated registry cleaner, particularly by an untrained, inexperienced

computer user, does any real good, whatsoever. There's certainly been

no empirical evidence offered to demonstrate that the use of such

products to "clean" WinXP's registry improves a computer's performance

or stability. Given the potential for harm, it's just not worth the risk.

Granted, most registry "cleaners" won't cause problems each and

every time they're used, but the potential for harm is always there.

And, since no registry "cleaner" has ever been demonstrated to do any

good (think of them like treating the flu with chicken soup - there's no

real medicinal value, but it sometimes provides a warming placebo

effect), I always tell people that the risks far out-weigh the

non-existent benefits.

I will concede that a good registry *scanning* tool, in the hands

of an experienced and knowledgeable technician or hobbyist can be a

useful time-saving diagnostic tool, as long as it's not allowed to make

any changes automatically. But I really don't think that there are any

registry cleaners that are truly safe for the general public to use.

Experience has proven just the opposite: such tools simply are not safe

in the hands of the inexperienced user.

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Conclusion: I will leave reg cleaners to the pros. I need to beef up my anti

spyware

as I had trouble with the 07 versions of Adaware and Spbot so I'm currently

using Windows Defender. It could use some help- any ideas?.

All of you helped me arrive at the conclusion I reached and I thank you for

all those characters sent to me.

--

Grampy Pete

"Bruce Chambers" wrote:

> Grampy Pete wrote:

> > Dell 4600-4 years old, xp home sp2, 2.66Ghz, 768 mb ram, user 5 scale 1-10.

> > need reliable cleaner and ez way to back up first. Thank you

>

> Why do you think you'd ever need to clean your registry? What

> specific *problems* are you actually experiencing (not some program's

> bogus listing of imaginary problems) that you think can be fixed by

> using a registry cleaner?

>

> If you do have a problem that is rooted in the registry, it would

> be far better to simply edit (after backing up, of course) only the

> specific key(s) and/or value(s) that are causing the problem. After

> all, why use a chainsaw when a scalpel will do the job? Additionally,

> the manually changing of one or two registry entries is far less likely

> to have the dire consequences of allowing an automated product to make

> multiple changes simultaneously. The only thing needed to safely clean

> your registry is knowledge and Regedit.exe.

>

> The registry contains all of the operating system's "knowledge" of

> the computer's hardware devices, installed software, the location of the

> device drivers, and the computer's configuration. A misstep in the

> registry can have severe consequences. One should not even turning

> loose a poorly understood automated "cleaner," unless he is fully

> confident that he knows *exactly* what is going to happen as a result of

> each and every change.

>

> Having repeatedly seen the results of inexperienced people using

> automated registry "cleaners," I can only advise all but the most

> experienced computer technicians (and/or hobbyists) to avoid them all.

> Experience has shown me that such tools simply are not safe in the hands

> of the inexperienced user. If you lack the knowledge and experience to

> maintain your registry by yourself, then you also lack the knowledge and

> experience to safely configure and use any automated registry cleaner,

> no matter how safe they claim to be.

>

> More importantly, no one has ever demonstrated that the use of an

> automated registry cleaner, particularly by an untrained, inexperienced

> computer user, does any real good, whatsoever. There's certainly been

> no empirical evidence offered to demonstrate that the use of such

> products to "clean" WinXP's registry improves a computer's performance

> or stability. Given the potential for harm, it's just not worth the risk.

>

> Granted, most registry "cleaners" won't cause problems each and

> every time they're used, but the potential for harm is always there.

> And, since no registry "cleaner" has ever been demonstrated to do any

> good (think of them like treating the flu with chicken soup - there's no

> real medicinal value, but it sometimes provides a warming placebo

> effect), I always tell people that the risks far out-weigh the

> non-existent benefits.

>

> I will concede that a good registry *scanning* tool, in the hands

> of an experienced and knowledgeable technician or hobbyist can be a

> useful time-saving diagnostic tool, as long as it's not allowed to make

> any changes automatically. But I really don't think that there are any

> registry cleaners that are truly safe for the general public to use.

> Experience has proven just the opposite: such tools simply are not safe

> in the hands of the inexperienced user.

>

> --

>

> Bruce Chambers

>

> Help us help you:

> http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm

> http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

>

> They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary

> safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. ~Benjamin Franklin

>

> Many people would rather die than think; in fact, most do. ~Bertrand Russell

>

> The philosopher has never killed any priests, whereas the priest has

> killed a great many philosophers.

> ~ Denis Diderot

>

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November 4, 200717 yr

Nonsense...

CCleaner is safe as a Registry Cleaner....

And improves performance.

DSH

"Bruce Chambers" <bchambers@cable0ne.n3t> wrote in message

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> Why do you think you'd ever need to clean your registry? What specific

> *problems* are you actually experiencing (not some program's bogus listing

> of imaginary problems) that you think can be fixed by using a registry

> cleaner?

>

> If you do have a problem that is rooted in the registry, it would be

> far better to simply edit (after backing up, of course) only the specific

> key(s) and/or value(s) that are causing the problem. After all, why use a

> chainsaw when a scalpel will do the job? Additionally, the manually

> changing of one or two registry entries is far less likely to have the

> dire consequences of allowing an automated product to make multiple

> changes simultaneously. The only thing needed to safely clean your

> registry is knowledge and Regedit.exe.

>

> The registry contains all of the operating system's "knowledge" of the

> computer's hardware devices, installed software, the location of the

> device drivers, and the computer's configuration. A misstep in the

> registry can have severe consequences. One should not even turning loose

> a poorly understood automated "cleaner," unless he is fully confident that

> he knows *exactly* what is going to happen as a result of each and every

> change.

>

> Having repeatedly seen the results of inexperienced people using

> automated registry "cleaners," I can only advise all but the most

> experienced computer technicians (and/or hobbyists) to avoid them all.

> Experience has shown me that such tools simply are not safe in the hands

> of the inexperienced user. If you lack the knowledge and experience to

> maintain your registry by yourself, then you also lack the knowledge and

> experience to safely configure and use any automated registry cleaner, no

> matter how safe they claim to be.

>

> More importantly, no one has ever demonstrated that the use of an

> automated registry cleaner, particularly by an untrained, inexperienced

> computer user, does any real good, whatsoever. There's certainly been no

> empirical evidence offered to demonstrate that the use of such products to

> "clean" WinXP's registry improves a computer's performance or stability.

> Given the potential for harm, it's just not worth the risk.

>

> Granted, most registry "cleaners" won't cause problems each and every

> time they're used, but the potential for harm is always there. And, since

> no registry "cleaner" has ever been demonstrated to do any good (think of

> them like treating the flu with chicken soup - there's no real medicinal

> value, but it sometimes provides a warming placebo effect), I always tell

> people that the risks far out-weigh the non-existent benefits.

>

> I will concede that a good registry *scanning* tool, in the hands of

> an experienced and knowledgeable technician or hobbyist can be a useful

> time-saving diagnostic tool, as long as it's not allowed to make any

> changes automatically. But I really don't think that there are any

> registry cleaners that are truly safe for the general public to use.

> Experience has proven just the opposite: such tools simply are not safe in

> the hands of the inexperienced user.

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D. Spencer Hines wrote:

> Nonsense...

>

> CCleaner is safe as a Registry Cleaner....

>

CCleaner's registry scanner seems relatively benign, as long as you

step through each detected "issue" one at a time, to determine if it

really is an "issue" or not, and then decide whether or not to let the

application "fix" it. In my testing, though, most of the reported

"issues" won't be issues, at all. I tried the latest version on a

brand-new OS installation with no additional applications installed, and

certainly none installed and then uninstalled, and CCleaner still

managed to "find" over a hundred allegedly orphaned registry entries and

dozens of purportedly "suspicious" files.

CCleaner's sole strength, and the only reason I use it, lies in its

usefulness for cleaning up unused temporary files from the hard drive;

as a registry "cleaner," it's not significantly better or worse than any

other snake oil product of the same type.

> And improves performance.

>

Utterly untrue. *NO* registry "cleaner" has ever been proven to

improve performance; the actions they perform are not the sort that

could have any affect on a computer's performance.

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Re: Registry Cleaner

Nope...

Bollixed Thinking...

I've run tests on several machines and CCleaner's Registry Cleaner has

improved performance on nine of them -- as compared to exactly identical

machines without CCleaner.

DSH

"Bruce Chambers" <bchambers@cable0ne.n3t> wrote in message

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> D. Spencer Hines wrote:

>> Nonsense...

>>

>> CCleaner is safe as a Registry Cleaner....

>

> CCleaner's registry scanner seems relatively benign, as long as you

> step through each detected "issue" one at a time, to determine if it

> really is an "issue" or not, and then decide whether or not to let the

> application "fix" it. In my testing, though, most of the reported

> "issues" won't be issues, at all. I tried the latest version on a

> brand-new OS installation with no additional applications installed, and

> certainly none installed and then uninstalled, and CCleaner still managed

> to "find" over a hundred allegedly orphaned registry entries and dozens of

> purportedly "suspicious" files.

>

> CCleaner's sole strength, and the only reason I use it, lies in its

> usefulness for cleaning up unused temporary files from the hard drive; as

> a registry "cleaner," it's not significantly better or worse than any

> other snake oil product of the same type.

>

>> And improves performance.

>>

> Utterly untrue. *NO* registry "cleaner" has ever been proven to improve

> performance; the actions they perform are not the sort that could have any

> affect on a computer's performance.

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Re: Registry Cleaner

That is an absurd claim, cleaning the registry does not improve performance.

John

D. Spencer Hines wrote:

> Nope...

>

> Bollixed Thinking...

>

> I've run tests on several machines and CCleaner's Registry Cleaner has

> improved performance on nine of them -- as compared to exactly identical

> machines without CCleaner.

>

> DSH

>

> "Bruce Chambers" <bchambers@cable0ne.n3t> wrote in message

> news:ONYK4ZxHIHA.5544@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>

>>D. Spencer Hines wrote:

>

>>>Nonsense...

>>>

>>>CCleaner is safe as a Registry Cleaner....

>>

>> CCleaner's registry scanner seems relatively benign, as long as you

>>step through each detected "issue" one at a time, to determine if it

>>really is an "issue" or not, and then decide whether or not to let the

>>application "fix" it. In my testing, though, most of the reported

>>"issues" won't be issues, at all. I tried the latest version on a

>>brand-new OS installation with no additional applications installed, and

>>certainly none installed and then uninstalled, and CCleaner still managed

>>to "find" over a hundred allegedly orphaned registry entries and dozens of

>>purportedly "suspicious" files.

>>

>> CCleaner's sole strength, and the only reason I use it, lies in its

>>usefulness for cleaning up unused temporary files from the hard drive; as

>>a registry "cleaner," it's not significantly better or worse than any

>>other snake oil product of the same type.

>>

>>>And improves performance.

>>>

>>

>>Utterly untrue. *NO* registry "cleaner" has ever been proven to improve

>>performance; the actions they perform are not the sort that could have any

>>affect on a computer's performance.

>

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Re: Registry Cleaner

Twaddle...

My experience proves otherwise.

DSH

"John John" <audetweld@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote in message

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> That is an absurd claim, cleaning the registry does not improve

> performance.

>

> John

>

> D. Spencer Hines wrote:

>

>> Nope...

>>

>> Bollixed Thinking...

>>

>> I've run tests on several machines and CCleaner's Registry Cleaner has

>> improved performance on nine of them -- as compared to exactly identical

>> machines without CCleaner.

>>

>> DSH

>>

>> "Bruce Chambers" <bchambers@cable0ne.n3t> wrote in message

>> news:ONYK4ZxHIHA.5544@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>>

>>>D. Spencer Hines wrote:

>>

>>>>Nonsense...

>>>>

>>>>CCleaner is safe as a Registry Cleaner....

>>>

>>> CCleaner's registry scanner seems relatively benign, as long as you

>>> step through each detected "issue" one at a time, to determine if it

>>> really is an "issue" or not, and then decide whether or not to let the

>>> application "fix" it. In my testing, though, most of the reported

>>> "issues" won't be issues, at all. I tried the latest version on a

>>> brand-new OS installation with no additional applications installed, and

>>> certainly none installed and then uninstalled, and CCleaner still

>>> managed to "find" over a hundred allegedly orphaned registry entries and

>>> dozens of purportedly "suspicious" files.

>>>

>>> CCleaner's sole strength, and the only reason I use it, lies in its

>>> usefulness for cleaning up unused temporary files from the hard drive;

>>> as a registry "cleaner," it's not significantly better or worse than any

>>> other snake oil product of the same type.

>>>

>>>>And improves performance.

>>>>

>>>Utterly untrue. *NO* registry "cleaner" has ever been proven to improve

>>>performance; the actions they perform are not the sort that could have

>>>any affect on a computer's performance.

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Re: Registry Cleaner

Bunk.

John

D. Spencer Hines wrote:

> Twaddle...

>

> My experience proves otherwise.

>

> DSH

>

> "John John" <audetweld@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote in message

> news:%23KEtfzxHIHA.3916@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>

>>That is an absurd claim, cleaning the registry does not improve

>>performance.

>>

>>John

>>

>>D. Spencer Hines wrote:

>>

>>>Nope...

>>>

>>>Bollixed Thinking...

>>>

>>>I've run tests on several machines and CCleaner's Registry Cleaner has

>>>improved performance on nine of them -- as compared to exactly identical

>>>machines without CCleaner.

>>>

>>>DSH

>>>

>>>"Bruce Chambers" <bchambers@cable0ne.n3t> wrote in message

>>>news:ONYK4ZxHIHA.5544@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>>>

>>>>D. Spencer Hines wrote:

>>>

>>>>>Nonsense...

>>>>>

>>>>>CCleaner is safe as a Registry Cleaner....

>>>>

>>>> CCleaner's registry scanner seems relatively benign, as long as you

>>>>step through each detected "issue" one at a time, to determine if it

>>>>really is an "issue" or not, and then decide whether or not to let the

>>>>application "fix" it. In my testing, though, most of the reported

>>>>"issues" won't be issues, at all. I tried the latest version on a

>>>>brand-new OS installation with no additional applications installed, and

>>>>certainly none installed and then uninstalled, and CCleaner still

>>>>managed to "find" over a hundred allegedly orphaned registry entries and

>>>>dozens of purportedly "suspicious" files.

>>>>

>>>> CCleaner's sole strength, and the only reason I use it, lies in its

>>>>usefulness for cleaning up unused temporary files from the hard drive;

>>>>as a registry "cleaner," it's not significantly better or worse than any

>>>>other snake oil product of the same type.

>>>>

>>>>>And improves performance.

>>>>>

>>>>

>>>>Utterly untrue. *NO* registry "cleaner" has ever been proven to improve

>>>>performance; the actions they perform are not the sort that could have

>>>>any affect on a computer's performance.

>

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Re: Registry Cleaner

Codswallop...

DSH

"John John" <audetweld@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote in message

news:O1610NyHIHA.2268@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

> Bunk.

>

> John

>

> D. Spencer Hines wrote:

>

>> Twaddle...

>>

>> My experience proves otherwise.

>>

>> DSH

>>

>> "John John" <audetweld@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote in message

>> news:%23KEtfzxHIHA.3916@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>>

>>>That is an absurd claim, cleaning the registry does not improve

>>>performance.

>>>

>>>John

>>>

>>>D. Spencer Hines wrote:

>>>

>>>>Nope...

>>>>

>>>>Bollixed Thinking...

>>>>

>>>>I've run tests on several machines and CCleaner's Registry Cleaner has

>>>>improved performance on nine of them -- as compared to exactly identical

>>>>machines without CCleaner.

>>>>

>>>>DSH

>>>>

>>>>"Bruce Chambers" <bchambers@cable0ne.n3t> wrote in message

>>>>news:ONYK4ZxHIHA.5544@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>>>>

>>>>>D. Spencer Hines wrote:

>>>>

>>>>>>Nonsense...

>>>>>>

>>>>>>CCleaner is safe as a Registry Cleaner....

>>>>>

>>>>> CCleaner's registry scanner seems relatively benign, as long as you

>>>>> step through each detected "issue" one at a time, to determine if it

>>>>> really is an "issue" or not, and then decide whether or not to let the

>>>>> application "fix" it. In my testing, though, most of the reported

>>>>> "issues" won't be issues, at all. I tried the latest version on a

>>>>> brand-new OS installation with no additional applications installed,

>>>>> and certainly none installed and then uninstalled, and CCleaner still

>>>>> managed to "find" over a hundred allegedly orphaned registry entries

>>>>> and dozens of purportedly "suspicious" files.

>>>>>

>>>>> CCleaner's sole strength, and the only reason I use it, lies in its

>>>>> usefulness for cleaning up unused temporary files from the hard drive;

>>>>> as a registry "cleaner," it's not significantly better or worse than

>>>>> any other snake oil product of the same type.

>>>>>

>>>>>>And improves performance.

>>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>Utterly untrue. *NO* registry "cleaner" has ever been proven to

>>>>>improve performance; the actions they perform are not the sort that

>>>>>could have any affect on a computer's performance.

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Hi..........Quite interesting opinion/statement on Reg Clrs. How about

"Uninstaller Programs"?? Having a problem w/ trying to uninstall "Zone

Alarm"(Free Version).

Error messages .......missing...." vsutil.dll" & when

trying to use ZA uninstall feature...........error

message..........".Uninstall resources not available."

Thought you may shed some lite on this problem. Any

ideas/solutions are appreciated....................Thxxxx.............Rudy

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