Re: A foolish statistic

 

I see that you put "never" in quotes. I get no desktop effects in VirtualBox.

I think I need to install Ubuntu unvirtualized to see its desktop effects.

 

"Richard Urban" <richardurbanREMOVETHIS@hotmail.com> wrote in message

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> I have been playing with every version of Ubuntu available for the past three years. I use

> them in a virtual machine.

>

> I would "never" install Ubuntu (or any Linux distribution) directly on a computer

Re: Linux is FREE....Where are the users??????????????? LINUX isF

 

dennis@home wrote:

>

> "Alias" <iamalias@gmailshoes.com> wrote in message

> news:fffpui$m8g$1@aioe.org...

>> Mike Hall - MVP wrote:

>>> Alias

>>>

>>> Your technical prowess seems only to extend to bandying insults with

>>> others of your type. When anybody puts up any decent discussion

>>> point, you either insult or become uncharacteristically quiet. You

>>> quite clearly have shown yourself to have no grasp of anything, and

>>> that includes Ubuntu. Still waiting for a bug free 7.10? Wait on..

>>>

>>> Much as you bluster on about Ubuntu, it is by no means the 'be all

>>> and end all' of the Linux scene, and is as all other Linux desktops

>>> are, a niche market.

>>>

>>

>> Insulting me rather than addressing the content again, eh? Why am I

>> not surprised?

>

> I'm surprised you saw an insult there, it was just a statement of fact IMO.

> If you thought that was an insult you should avoid using the Internet as

> it is full of adults who may actually insult you one day.

 

Insults don't bother me. I am just pointing out how MVPs and YOU use

insults in a lame attempt to avoid the issues.

 

--

Alias

 

To email me, remove shoes

Re: Linux is FREE....Where are the users??????????????? LINUX isF

 

Alias wrote:

> Mike Hall - MVP wrote:

>

>> Alias

>>

>> Your technical prowess seems only to extend to bandying insults with

>> others of your type. When anybody puts up any decent discussion point,

>> you either insult or become uncharacteristically quiet. You quite

>> clearly have shown yourself to have no grasp of anything, and that

>> includes Ubuntu. Still waiting for a bug free 7.10? Wait on..

>>

>> Much as you bluster on about Ubuntu, it is by no means the 'be all and

>> end all' of the Linux scene, and is as all other Linux desktops are, a

>> niche market.

>>

>

> Insulting me rather than addressing the content again, eh? Why am I not

> surprised?

>

 

SSDD. Fukk, what real loser you are.

Frank

Re: Linux is FREE....Where are the users??????????????? LINUX isF

 

dennis@home wrote:

>

> "Alias" <iamalias@gmailshoes.com> wrote in message

> news:fffpui$m8g$1@aioe.org...

>

>> Mike Hall - MVP wrote:

>>

>>> Alias

>>>

>>> Your technical prowess seems only to extend to bandying insults with

>>> others of your type. When anybody puts up any decent discussion

>>> point, you either insult or become uncharacteristically quiet. You

>>> quite clearly have shown yourself to have no grasp of anything, and

>>> that includes Ubuntu. Still waiting for a bug free 7.10? Wait on..

>>>

>>> Much as you bluster on about Ubuntu, it is by no means the 'be all

>>> and end all' of the Linux scene, and is as all other Linux desktops

>>> are, a niche market.

>>>

>>

>> Insulting me rather than addressing the content again, eh? Why am I

>> not surprised?

>

>

> I'm surprised you saw an insult there, it was just a statement of fact IMO.

> If you thought that was an insult you should avoid using the Internet as

> it is full of adults who may actually insult you one day.

 

That is alias's go to responds when he's caught like a deer in the

headlights.

He's just a know nothing, lying linux lovin loser.

Frank

Re: Linux is FREE....Where are the users??????????????? LINUX is F

 

"Alias" <iamalias@gmailshoes.com> wrote in message

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> Insults don't bother me. I am just pointing out how MVPs and YOU use

> insults in a lame attempt to avoid the issues.

 

Show one occasion where I have used an insult to try and avoid any issue?

Re: Linux is FREE....Where are the users??????????????? LINUX isF

 

Adam Albright wrote:

> On Sat, 20 Oct 2007 23:51:17 -0600, "Jupiter Jones [MVP]"

> <jones_jupiter@hotnomail.com> wrote:

>

>

>>"it is very hard to find a computer that does not have windows on it"

>>I would disagree with this statement.

>

>

> Just one question Jupiter. Why in the hell do you think anybody gives

> a rat's ass what you think?

 

You're asking the wrong person. You need to ask yourself that question,

you demented as*hole loser.

Frank

Re: Linux is FREE....Where are the users??????????????? LINUX isFREE...Where are it's users???????????????????

 

Alias wrote:

> caver1 wrote:

>

>> heather.banger@gmail.com wrote:

>>

>>> On Oct 20, 10:55 pm, heather.ban...@gmail.com wrote:

>>>

>>>> Linux users love to talk about how Micorsoft sabotoges the Linux

>>>> movement but they forget one important aspect of Linux, it is FREE....

>>>>

>>>> Yes Linux, and all of it's *wonderful* applications, is free every day

>>>> of the week.

>>>>

>>>> So why are so few people using Linux?

>>>> People are free to choose.

>>>> Nobody is holding their feet to the fire.

>>>> So why don't they choose Linux?

>>>> Why are they willing to pay $200 for Windows and another $200 for

>>>> Office instead of using Linux and OpenOffice for free?

>>>>

>>>> Why?

>>>>

>>>> Think about what would happen if Sony decided to give away TVs for

>>>> free.

>>>> How long would RCA be in business?

>>>> A week maybe?

>>>>

>>>> Yet Linux is free all the time and it seems nobody is taking the bait.

>>>> Why?

>>>>

>>>> That, in and of itself says all that needs to be said about Linux.

>>>>

>>>> When it can't be given away for free, it must really suck.

>>>> And Linux does.

>>>> Suck that is.

>>>

>>>

>>> <Linux is crap because it can't even be given away,

>>>

>>

>>

>> That's why Dell says that there Linux sales are growing faster than

>> Windows sales.

>> caver1

>

>

> And the Ubuntu newsgroup is full of newbies.

>

 

They have our condolences!

Frank

Re: A foolish statistic

 

Ubuntu is getting new users at the expense of other strains of Linux.

Fedora, Red Hat and Suse are losing to it. Do not kid yourself that all new

Ubuntu users have dumped or intend to dump MS operating systems.

 

--

Mike Hall - MVP

http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/default.aspx

Posting Productively.. http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm

 

 

 

"caver1" <caver@inthemud.com> wrote in message

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> Ricky wrote:

>> Gee. If Dell sold 10 computers with Linux last month, and 20 computers

>> this months, that's a 100% increase in sales - which means absolutely

>> ***NOTHING***!

>>

>> Conversely, if Dell sold 42,000 computers with Vista last month and

>> 50,400 this month, that is a 20% increase. If you were Dell, which would

>> you rather sell?

>>

>>

>> "caver1" wrote:

>>

>>> heather.banger@gmail.com wrote:

>>>> On Oct 20, 10:55 pm, heather.ban...@gmail.com wrote:

>>>>> Linux users love to talk about how Micorsoft sabotoges the Linux

>>>>> movement but they forget one important aspect of Linux, it is FREE....

>>>>>

>>>>> Yes Linux, and all of it's *wonderful* applications, is free every day

>>>>> of the week.

>>>>>

>>>>> So why are so few people using Linux?

>>>>> People are free to choose.

>>>>> Nobody is holding their feet to the fire.

>>>>> So why don't they choose Linux?

>>>>> Why are they willing to pay $200 for Windows and another $200 for

>>>>> Office instead of using Linux and OpenOffice for free?

>>>>>

>>>>> Why?

>>>>>

>>>>> Think about what would happen if Sony decided to give away TVs for

>>>>> free.

>>>>> How long would RCA be in business?

>>>>> A week maybe?

>>>>>

>>>>> Yet Linux is free all the time and it seems nobody is taking the bait.

>>>>> Why?

>>>>>

>>>>> That, in and of itself says all that needs to be said about Linux.

>>>>>

>>>>> When it can't be given away for free, it must really suck.

>>>>> And Linux does.

>>>>> Suck that is.

>>>> <Linux is crap because it can't even be given away,

>>>>

>>>

>>> That's why Dell says that there Linux sales are growing faster than

>>> Windows sales.

>>> caver1

>>>

>

>

> The figures point out that if you make Linux available they will be sold.

> If you read what Dell is saying is that Linux sales are increasing and

> Vista sales

> are practically dead in the water.

> caver1

Re: Linux is FREE....Where are the users??????????????? LINUX isF

 

dennis@home wrote:

>

> "Alias" <iamalias@gmailshoes.com> wrote in message

> news:ffg4km$jkf$3@aioe.org...

>

>> Insults don't bother me. I am just pointing out how MVPs and YOU use

>> insults in a lame attempt to avoid the issues.

>

> Show one occasion where I have used an insult to try and avoid any issue?

 

Read the post you just snipped.

 

--

Alias

 

To email me, remove shoes

Re: Linux is FREE....Where are the users??????????????? LINUX isFREE...Where are it's users???????????????????

 

Frank wrote:

> Alias wrote:

>

>> caver1 wrote:

>>

>>> heather.banger@gmail.com wrote:

>>>

>>>> On Oct 20, 10:55 pm, heather.ban...@gmail.com wrote:

>>>>

>>>>> Linux users love to talk about how Micorsoft sabotoges the Linux

>>>>> movement but they forget one important aspect of Linux, it is FREE....

>>>>>

>>>>> Yes Linux, and all of it's *wonderful* applications, is free every day

>>>>> of the week.

>>>>>

>>>>> So why are so few people using Linux?

>>>>> People are free to choose.

>>>>> Nobody is holding their feet to the fire.

>>>>> So why don't they choose Linux?

>>>>> Why are they willing to pay $200 for Windows and another $200 for

>>>>> Office instead of using Linux and OpenOffice for free?

>>>>>

>>>>> Why?

>>>>>

>>>>> Think about what would happen if Sony decided to give away TVs for

>>>>> free.

>>>>> How long would RCA be in business?

>>>>> A week maybe?

>>>>>

>>>>> Yet Linux is free all the time and it seems nobody is taking the bait.

>>>>> Why?

>>>>>

>>>>> That, in and of itself says all that needs to be said about Linux.

>>>>>

>>>>> When it can't be given away for free, it must really suck.

>>>>> And Linux does.

>>>>> Suck that is.

>>>>

>>>>

>>>> <Linux is crap because it can't even be given away,

>>>>

>>>

>>>

>>> That's why Dell says that there Linux sales are growing faster than

>>> Windows sales.

>>> caver1

>>

>>

>> And the Ubuntu newsgroup is full of newbies.

>>

>

> They have our condolences!

> Frank

 

Why don't you go rescue them? Are you afraid of alt.os.linux.ubuntu? You

could use your usual polite manner. I'm sure that would convince a lot

of them to come running back home to Windows.

 

--

Alias

 

To email me, remove shoes

Re: A foolish statistic

 

Mike Hall - MVP wrote:

> Ubuntu is getting new users at the expense of other strains of Linux.

> Fedora, Red Hat and Suse are losing to it. Do not kid yourself that all

> new Ubuntu users have dumped or intend to dump MS operating systems.

>

 

Yeah, the general public just loves Microsoft. I've been using Windows

again for two days and I'm considering downloading the ISO for Gutsy

instead of waiting for the CD because I'm jonesing for my Ubuntu.

 

--

Alias

 

To email me, remove shoes

Re: Linux is FREE....Where are the users??????????????? LINUX is F

 

On Sun, 21 Oct 2007 08:55:37 -0400, "Mike Hall - MVP"

<mikehall@mvps.com> wrote:

>Buyer goes into major retail outlet to buy a computer. Picks a model running

>Ubuntu. Wants a printer and scanner too. Will it work? The employee is not

>sure but probably thinks that it will be ok. Wants some software for the

>kids and maybe something for self. Will it work? No. Employee says that the

>internet is the only place to get software. Buyer asks if any existing

>software from the old computer will work. Employee says 'no, probably not'.

>Buyer picks Windows computer. Everybody is happy.

 

 

That doesn't make MS responsible for untrained/stupid sales clerks.

The same situation is very present in Audio/Video stores, where they

are hired, told to wear a tie and sent out on the floor. Everywhere

you go, this is very common. Car salesmen are no different, I went to

a dealer yesterday to have a look at some '08 models and stood there

aghast as some idiot told me that 'All Wheel Drive' & 'Four Wheel

Drive' is exactly the same thing, only they are 'marketed' different.

These days, you have to do your own research on products and that is

one very large benefit you get from the WWW.

Re: Linux is FREE....Where are the users??????????????? LINUX is F

 

"Alias" <iamalias@gmailshoes.com> wrote in message

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> dennis@home wrote:

>>

>> "Alias" <iamalias@gmailshoes.com> wrote in message

>> news:ffg4km$jkf$3@aioe.org...

>>

>>> Insults don't bother me. I am just pointing out how MVPs and YOU use

>>> insults in a lame attempt to avoid the issues.

>>

>> Show one occasion where I have used an insult to try and avoid any issue?

>

> Read the post you just snipped.

 

Show one occasion where I have used an insult to try and avoid any issue?

 

Your definition of insult, avoid, and issue must be odd.

Re: Linux is FREE....Where are the users??????????????? LINUX is F

 

I couldn't agree more. There is much similarity between major computer

stores and car dealerships. Both rely on the customer not knowing anything

about the technical aspects, seeing only the sale as being important.

 

--

Mike Hall - MVP

http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/default.aspx

Posting Productively.. http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm

 

 

 

"E. Barry Bruyea" <noemail@scam.com> wrote in message

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> On Sun, 21 Oct 2007 08:55:37 -0400, "Mike Hall - MVP"

> <mikehall@mvps.com> wrote:

>

>>Buyer goes into major retail outlet to buy a computer. Picks a model

>>running

>>Ubuntu. Wants a printer and scanner too. Will it work? The employee is not

>>sure but probably thinks that it will be ok. Wants some software for the

>>kids and maybe something for self. Will it work? No. Employee says that

>>the

>>internet is the only place to get software. Buyer asks if any existing

>>software from the old computer will work. Employee says 'no, probably

>>not'.

>>Buyer picks Windows computer. Everybody is happy.

>

>

> That doesn't make MS responsible for untrained/stupid sales clerks.

> The same situation is very present in Audio/Video stores, where they

> are hired, told to wear a tie and sent out on the floor. Everywhere

> you go, this is very common. Car salesmen are no different, I went to

> a dealer yesterday to have a look at some '08 models and stood there

> aghast as some idiot told me that 'All Wheel Drive' & 'Four Wheel

> Drive' is exactly the same thing, only they are 'marketed' different.

> These days, you have to do your own research on products and that is

> one very large benefit you get from the WWW.

>

Re: Linux is FREE....Where are the users??????????????? LINUX is FREE...Where are it's users???????????????????

 

I can see why you like alt.os groups. I pulled out of helping in the alt.os.

windows groups. The regulars acted like pigs, and the people going for help

were insulted as a matter of course. There are a number of people trying to

bring this group down to the same level. Very sad.

 

--

Mike Hall - MVP

http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/default.aspx

Posting Productively.. http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm

 

 

 

"Alias" <iamalias@gmailshoes.com> wrote in message

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> Frank wrote:

>> Alias wrote:

>>

>>> caver1 wrote:

>>>

>>>> heather.banger@gmail.com wrote:

>>>>

>>>>> On Oct 20, 10:55 pm, heather.ban...@gmail.com wrote:

>>>>>

>>>>>> Linux users love to talk about how Micorsoft sabotoges the Linux

>>>>>> movement but they forget one important aspect of Linux, it is

>>>>>> FREE....

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Yes Linux, and all of it's *wonderful* applications, is free every

>>>>>> day

>>>>>> of the week.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> So why are so few people using Linux?

>>>>>> People are free to choose.

>>>>>> Nobody is holding their feet to the fire.

>>>>>> So why don't they choose Linux?

>>>>>> Why are they willing to pay $200 for Windows and another $200 for

>>>>>> Office instead of using Linux and OpenOffice for free?

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Why?

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Think about what would happen if Sony decided to give away TVs for

>>>>>> free.

>>>>>> How long would RCA be in business?

>>>>>> A week maybe?

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Yet Linux is free all the time and it seems nobody is taking the

>>>>>> bait.

>>>>>> Why?

>>>>>>

>>>>>> That, in and of itself says all that needs to be said about Linux.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> When it can't be given away for free, it must really suck.

>>>>>> And Linux does.

>>>>>> Suck that is.

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>> <Linux is crap because it can't even be given away,

>>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>> That's why Dell says that there Linux sales are growing faster than

>>>> Windows sales.

>>>> caver1

>>>

>>>

>>> And the Ubuntu newsgroup is full of newbies.

>>>

>>

>> They have our condolences!

>> Frank

>

> Why don't you go rescue them? Are you afraid of alt.os.linux.ubuntu? You

> could use your usual polite manner. I'm sure that would convince a lot of

> them to come running back home to Windows.

>

> --

> Alias

>

> To email me, remove shoes

Re: A foolish statistic

 

Considering? There are a good few here who have already installed 7.10, MVPs

included. You need to get a move on.

 

--

Mike Hall - MVP

http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/default.aspx

Posting Productively.. http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm

 

 

 

"Alias" <iamalias@gmailshoes.com> wrote in message

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> Mike Hall - MVP wrote:

>> Ubuntu is getting new users at the expense of other strains of Linux.

>> Fedora, Red Hat and Suse are losing to it. Do not kid yourself that all

>> new Ubuntu users have dumped or intend to dump MS operating systems.

>>

>

> Yeah, the general public just loves Microsoft. I've been using Windows

> again for two days and I'm considering downloading the ISO for Gutsy

> instead of waiting for the CD because I'm jonesing for my Ubuntu.

>

> --

> Alias

>

> To email me, remove shoes

Re: Linux is FREE....Where are the users??????????????? LINUX isFREE...Where are it's users???????????????????

 

Alias wrote:

> Frank wrote:

>

>> Alias wrote:

>>

>>> caver1 wrote:

>>>

>>>> heather.banger@gmail.com wrote:

>>>>

>>>>> On Oct 20, 10:55 pm, heather.ban...@gmail.com wrote:

>>>>>

>>>>>> Linux users love to talk about how Micorsoft sabotoges the Linux

>>>>>> movement but they forget one important aspect of Linux, it is

>>>>>> FREE....

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Yes Linux, and all of it's *wonderful* applications, is free every

>>>>>> day

>>>>>> of the week.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> So why are so few people using Linux?

>>>>>> People are free to choose.

>>>>>> Nobody is holding their feet to the fire.

>>>>>> So why don't they choose Linux?

>>>>>> Why are they willing to pay $200 for Windows and another $200 for

>>>>>> Office instead of using Linux and OpenOffice for free?

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Why?

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Think about what would happen if Sony decided to give away TVs for

>>>>>> free.

>>>>>> How long would RCA be in business?

>>>>>> A week maybe?

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Yet Linux is free all the time and it seems nobody is taking the

>>>>>> bait.

>>>>>> Why?

>>>>>>

>>>>>> That, in and of itself says all that needs to be said about Linux.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> When it can't be given away for free, it must really suck.

>>>>>> And Linux does.

>>>>>> Suck that is.

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>> <Linux is crap because it can't even be given away,

>>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>> That's why Dell says that there Linux sales are growing faster than

>>>> Windows sales.

>>>> caver1

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>> And the Ubuntu newsgroup is full of newbies.

>>>

>>

>> They have our condolences!

>> Frank

>

>

> Why don't you go rescue them?

 

They'll return on their own soon enough.

 

Are you afraid of alt.os.linux.ubuntu?

 

I don't really understand what that means so let me try and rephrase

your question so that it makes sense to normal people.

Am I stupid enough or desperate enough or dumb enough to waste my time

trolling a linux group...not in my life time.

 

You

> could use your usual polite manner. I'm sure that would convince a lot

> of them to come running back home to Windows.

 

Just using linux for a few days will convince 99% of them to come back.

You can bet on that.

Frank

Re: A foolish statistic

 

Alias wrote:

> Mike Hall - MVP wrote:

>

>> Ubuntu is getting new users at the expense of other strains of Linux.

>> Fedora, Red Hat and Suse are losing to it. Do not kid yourself that

>> all new Ubuntu users have dumped or intend to dump MS operating systems.

>>

>

> Yeah, the general public just loves Microsoft. I've been using Windows

> again for two days and I'm considering downloading the ISO for Gutsy

> instead of waiting for the CD because I'm jonesing for my Ubuntu.

>

 

Great idea! While you're at it try dl'ing some brains, some manners,

some backbone and some balls!

Frank

Re: A foolish statistic

 

Mike Hall - MVP wrote:

> Considering?

 

Downloading the ISO *instead* of waiting for the CD.

 

There are a good few here who have already installed 7.10,

> MVPs included. You need to get a move on.

>

 

I take my time and get there quicker than some of the "can't-waits".

 

--

Alias

 

To email me, remove shoes

Re: A foolish statistic

 

Take too much longer and you might as well wait for 8.04 CDs..

 

--

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http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/default.aspx

Posting Productively.. http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm

 

 

 

"Alias" <iamalias@gmailshoes.com> wrote in message

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> Mike Hall - MVP wrote:

>> Considering?

>

> Downloading the ISO *instead* of waiting for the CD.

>

> There are a good few here who have already installed 7.10,

>> MVPs included. You need to get a move on.

>>

>

> I take my time and get there quicker than some of the "can't-waits".

>

> --

> Alias

>

> To email me, remove shoes

Re: A foolish statistic

 

On Sun, 21 Oct 2007 12:29:34 -0700, Frank <fb@spamm.nrz> wrote:

>Alias wrote:

>

>> Mike Hall - MVP wrote:

>>

>>> Ubuntu is getting new users at the expense of other strains of Linux.

>>> Fedora, Red Hat and Suse are losing to it. Do not kid yourself that

>>> all new Ubuntu users have dumped or intend to dump MS operating systems.

>>>

>>

>> Yeah, the general public just loves Microsoft. I've been using Windows

>> again for two days and I'm considering downloading the ISO for Gutsy

>> instead of waiting for the CD because I'm jonesing for my Ubuntu.

>>

>

>Great idea! While you're at it try dl'ing some brains, some manners,

>some backbone and some balls!

>Frank

 

Frank is a strong believer in leading by example:

 

1. He doesn't know when to use your from you're, makes constant

spelling and grammatical errors, yet pretends he runs a

marketing/advertising business where a better than average

grasp of good English is mandatory.

 

2. Frank calls everybody a drunk, liar, troll, worse.

 

3. Frank's manners: Says STFU, get out of here and don't come back.

Will repeat the same lies hundreds of times, accuses people

of being unethical, dishonest, in jail, criminals, crazy, etc..

 

4. Frank doesn't have the balls to list the name of his company

he pretends made him very wealthy, another of Frank's claims all

of which seem to be just figments of his imagination since he

always refuses to provide any proof on any of his claims.

 

In other words Frank is a real piece of work and never criticized by

any of his fellow fanboys. That speaks volumes who can be trusted and

who can't.

Re: Linux is FREE....Where are the users??????????????? LINUX is F

 

I think you are missing a major point.

"most major applications used on Windows which do NOT require

searching the internet"

How is a new Linux user going to find these if they do not search, the

internet or somewhere.

In the example The computer was purchased with Linux and doubtful ALL

the Linux compatible software installed.

 

It is not a "straw man" as someone else suggested.

The "probably" in the other posters comments sow that unless he also

makes assumptions on what a person wanting Linux already knows.

 

--

Jupiter Jones [MVP]

http://www3.telus.net/dandemar

http://www.dts-l.org

 

 

"Gordon" <gbplinux@gmail.com.invalid> wrote in message

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> Which unfortunately, is a realistic illustration of the complete

> incompetence of most "sales" staff at major retail outlets.

> There are usually equivalent linux versions of most major

> applications used on Windows which do NOT require searching the

> internet for, but are available direct from the distribution

> repositories and can be installed easily through a very use-friendly

> GUI.

> With a modicum of research, hardware like scanners can be purchased

> relatively easily that will work out of the box on Linux.

> Software that has no Linux equivalent (and there is not many these

> days with the exception of games) can, with not very much work, be

> run under WINE.

> I repeat, most of your post is an indictment of the incompetence and

> ignorance of most "sales" staff in major outlets, and not the real

> truth of Linux as it is today.

>

> I have to say that personally I never ask staff anything technical

> in places like PC World, because they just don't know! They are

> SALES people, not computer people.

>

Re: A foolish statistic

 

Adam Albright wrote:

>>

>> Great idea! While you're at it try dl'ing some brains, some manners,

>> some backbone and some balls!

>> Frank

>

> Frank is a strong believer in leading by example:

>

> 1. He doesn't know when to use your from you're, makes constant

> spelling and grammatical errors, yet pretends he runs a

> marketing/advertising business where a better than average

> grasp of good English is mandatory.

 

A good copywriter writes for the intended audience.

>

> 2. Frank calls everybody a drunk, liar, troll, worse.

 

He's never called ME that.

>

> 3. Frank's manners: Says STFU, get out of here and don't come back.

> Will repeat the same lies hundreds of times, accuses people

> of being unethical, dishonest, in jail, criminals, crazy, etc..

 

Eventually, even the biggest dullards will get the message - if it's

repeated often enough. Don't you agree?

>

> 4. Frank doesn't have the balls to list the name of his company

> he pretends made him very wealthy, another of Frank's claims all

> of which seem to be just figments of his imagination since he

> always refuses to provide any proof on any of his claims.

 

No need to do so. This is simply a tactic to change the terms of the debate.

Might as well insist on knowing his mother's maiden name as far as

relevancy.

>

> In other words Frank is a real piece of work and never criticized by

> any of his fellow fanboys. That speaks volumes who can be trusted and

> who can't.

 

Honor. Loyalty. Brotherhood. Values that count. They are everlasting. I may

not agree with everything Frank says (although you'll never hear me say so),

but he's family. It's us against the barbarians.

Re: Linux is FREE....Where are the users??????????????? LINUX is F

 

"Insulting me rather than addressing the content..."

That fits your other post as well.

 

"...they probably also know more..."

And maybe they only know a very little.

However you are again free to ASSUME.

Different people will have different knowledge levels and it is

certain some will ask the questions you suggest are fantasies.

They are not fantasy, for some they are real and necessary for those

asking the questions.

The fact many sales people are ignorant of the product is irrelevant

since people will still ask.

 

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Jupiter Jones [MVP]

http://www3.telus.net/dandemar

http://www.dts-l.org

 

 

"Alias" <iamalias@gmailshoes.com> wrote in message

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> Insulting me rather than addressing the content again, eh? Why am I

> not surprised?

>

> --

> Alias

>

> To email me, remove shoes

Re: A foolish statistic

 

On Sun, 21 Oct 2007 15:56:50 -0400, Mike Hall - MVP wrote:

> Take too much longer and you might as well wait for 8.04 CDs..

 

Hahaha very very true! Gutsy is already yesterday's news...I've already

been running it for 2 months!

 

Time for 8.04 =)

 

 

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Stephan

2003 Yamaha R6

 

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