"Linonut" <linonut@bollsouth.nut> wrote in message

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> * dennis@home fired off this tart reply:

>

>> Your Linux would be several version out of date and have specific

>> changes.

>> So anyone that claims these odd systems run Linux is being economical

>> with

>> the truth.. they may have started with Linux but it isn't Linux and

>> probably

>> never will be again.

>

> Unless, of course, you GPL your changes for distribution.

 

Which doesn't give you any control whatsoever, the changes may end up in

linux, they may not..

So even if you gpl it you still have to maintain your own code base.

All gpl does is give your competitor access to your code.. it doesn't save

you any work once you have chosen a distro to start with.

It does save your competitor work if you solve the problems first.

>> Take one of the systems I was on the design team for.. it was found that

>> mutexes took a lot of effort.. so we designed a few bits of logic and

>> made

>> an area of RAM into read and clear memory ( you wrote a value, when you

>> read

>> it it would be set to zero by the hardware, so if you read any value

>> other

>> than zero you had the lock) to replace mutexes. You would be amazed at

>> how

>> much junk that removed from the code.. this is engineering not what the

>> Linux zealots think is engineering.

>

> Your attitude is bad how can you lump smart and dumb people into one

> term?

 

???

>

>> I wouldn't be surprised if it appeared in an Intel CPU now I have

>> mentioned

>> it here, they are always after ideas. -)

>

> Yeah, I'm sure the concept above is still considered groundbreaking

> after all these years. Yeesh. That kind of stuff existed in the 1980's

> on programmable IBM PC adapter cards.

 

That's ok I predate them.

I even had a patent that Intel probably infringed with their apic design,

but the company decided to let it lapse for some reason.

dennis@home wrote:

 

< snip >

>> Yeah, I'm sure the concept above is still considered groundbreaking

>> after all these years. Yeesh. That kind of stuff existed in the 1980's

>> on programmable IBM PC adapter cards.

>

> That's ok I predate them.

> I even had a patent that Intel probably infringed with their apic design,

> but the company decided to let it lapse for some reason.

 

A *patent* on such a crappy idea?

Even the USPO isn't stupid enough to issue a patent on such garbage

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Peter Köhlmann wrote:

> dennis@home wrote:

>

> < snip >

>

>>>Yeah, I'm sure the concept above is still considered groundbreaking

>>>after all these years. Yeesh. That kind of stuff existed in the 1980's

>>>on programmable IBM PC adapter cards.

>>

>>That's ok I predate them.

>>I even had a patent that Intel probably infringed with their apic design,

>>but the company decided to let it lapse for some reason.

>

>

> A *patent* on such a crappy idea?

> Even the USPO isn't stupid enough to issue a patent on such garbage

 

Idiot!

Frank

"PeterKöhlmann" . wrote in message

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> dennis@home wrote:

>

> < snip >

>

>>> Yeah, I'm sure the concept above is still considered groundbreaking

>>> after all these years. Yeesh. That kind of stuff existed in the 1980's

>>> on programmable IBM PC adapter cards.

>>

>> That's ok I predate them.

>> I even had a patent that Intel probably infringed with their apic design,

>> but the company decided to let it lapse for some reason.

>

> A *patent* on such a crappy idea?

> Even the USPO isn't stupid enough to issue a patent on such garbage

 

You don't know what the patent was you cretin.

Do you really have to keep proving how stupid you are?

"Frank" <fb@osspan.clm> wrote in message

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> Peter Köhlmann wrote:

>> dennis@home wrote:

>>

>> < snip >

>>

>>>>Yeah, I'm sure the concept above is still considered groundbreaking

>>>>after all these years. Yeesh. That kind of stuff existed in the 1980's

>>>>on programmable IBM PC adapter cards.

>>>

>>>That's ok I predate them.

>>>I even had a patent that Intel probably infringed with their apic design,

>>>but the company decided to let it lapse for some reason.

>>

>>

>> A *patent* on such a crappy idea?

>> Even the USPO isn't stupid enough to issue a patent on such garbage

>

> Idiot!

 

Don't insult idiots, they are more intelligent than he is. -)

* dennis@home fired off this tart reply:

>>> the truth.. they may have started with Linux but it isn't Linux and

>>> probably never will be again.

>>

>> Unless, of course, you GPL your changes for distribution.

>

> Which doesn't give you any control whatsoever, the changes may end up

> in linux, they may not.. So even if you gpl it you still have to

> maintain your own code base. All gpl does is give your competitor

> access to your code.. it doesn't save you any work once you have

> chosen a distro to start with. It does save your competitor work if

> you solve the problems first.

 

Indeed. Of course, it could be that your "competitor" really just wants

to be your ally, so you both (and your customers) could benefit.

 

I know, a fantasy. Can't ever come true in this world, can it?

>> Yeah, I'm sure the concept above is still considered groundbreaking

>> after all these years. Yeesh. That kind of stuff existed in the 1980's

>> on programmable IBM PC adapter cards.

>

> That's ok I predate them.

> I even had a patent that Intel probably infringed with their apic design,

> but the company decided to let it lapse for some reason.

 

Heh.

 

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"Linonut" <linonut@bollsouth.nut> wrote in message

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> * dennis@home fired off this tart reply:

>

>>>> the truth.. they may have started with Linux but it isn't Linux and

>>>> probably never will be again.

>>>

>>> Unless, of course, you GPL your changes for distribution.

>>

>> Which doesn't give you any control whatsoever, the changes may end up

>> in linux, they may not.. So even if you gpl it you still have to

>> maintain your own code base. All gpl does is give your competitor

>> access to your code.. it doesn't save you any work once you have

>> chosen a distro to start with. It does save your competitor work if

>> you solve the problems first.

>

> Indeed. Of course, it could be that your "competitor" really just wants

> to be your ally, so you both (and your customers) could benefit.

>

> I know, a fantasy. Can't ever come true in this world, can it?

 

Not since Britain told America about metal fatigue and its effects on

aircraft after finding out why the Comets crashed and let Boeing become

world leader. I don't recall any other area where a competitor has given

away secrets just to save lives.

On Sun, 25 Nov 2007 22:14:33 GMT, ed <ed@example.test> wrote:

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>ProfGene wrote:

>> linuxlover66@gmail.com wrote:

>>> On Sep 8, 5:18 pm, <msnews.microsoft.com> wrote:

>>>> I am currently running XP MCE SP2 without any problems at all. AMD

>>>> 64bit

>>>> 3200, 2 GB RAM, nVidia 6600 GT Video, 250 GB SATA HD. Hauppauge

>>>> tuner card.

>>>> Vista upgrade advisor says everything is supported and all device and

>>>> apps

>>>> are fine. My typical work is in SQL Server 2005, VStudio 2005 and

>>>> Office

>>>> 2007. I use Media Centre occasionally. I am wondering if it is

>>>> actually

>>>> worth upgrading to Ultimate. I have read about a lot of issues... it

>>>> doesn't seem that many peole are very happy with Vista. Any feedback?

>>>

>>> You should upgrade to Linux and fully utilize the excellent hardware

>>> you have.

>>> Running total OpenSource software is really the only way to get the

>>> freedom from proprietary constraints.

>>> Why pay $200 for Vista when you can get Ubuntu for free?

>>>

>>> Your hardware will scream with Linux.

>>>

>>>

>>>

>> If you don't have any problem stick with what you have until you do have

>> problems. You should only upgrade if you think there is a real benefit

>> from it. XP is fine until you need something else in the future which

>> might not be supported by it.

>

>I don't agree fully, but I do in part. There is very good reason to move

>to a platform that is free. It sounds like the author is a programmer,

>and as such would benefit from the abundance of programming tools

>available to UNIX-like systems.

>

>If the user is using visual sudio, then going one of two ways would be

>ideal, either Eclipse or gcc/gdb/gvim might suit the user.

>

>Obviously if the user is only making windows software then it's ideal

>for hir to continue with a windows testing platform somewhere. Depends

>on the user. If it's college work then I suggest the UNIX-like approach.

>

>Also, on another subject of testing. The multi user capabilities of

>ctl-alt-fN makes multiple sessions very usable.

 

The free software does not have the support that Windows has and

will result in constant frustration.

>But looking to the future, saving 200$ every couple on years ON JUST the

>OS makes the free systems very feasible.

 

Why did you put the $ after the number?

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You should turn that off.

 

Barry

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* Barry OGrady fired off this tart reply:

> The free software does not have the support that Windows has and

> will result in constant frustration.

 

Free software has the /same/ support system as Windows. Can you say

Google? Or will it cause you to throw a chair at someone?

 

Speaking of constant frustration, it seems to be a common thread in

Vista, so common, in fact, that Apple uses it as marketing material.

 

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NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO NEVER UPGARDE TO VISTA IS SUCKS TOO MUCH RESOURCES AND

RAM.... STAY WITH XP

 

"msnews.microsoft.com" wrote:

> I am currently running XP MCE SP2 without any problems at all. AMD 64bit

> 3200, 2 GB RAM, nVidia 6600 GT Video, 250 GB SATA HD. Hauppauge tuner card.

> Vista upgrade advisor says everything is supported and all device and apps

> are fine. My typical work is in SQL Server 2005, VStudio 2005 and Office

> 2007. I use Media Centre occasionally. I am wondering if it is actually

> worth upgrading to Ultimate. I have read about a lot of issues... it

> doesn't seem that many peole are very happy with Vista. Any feedback?

>

>

>

http://www.world-of-toys.com/product_p/505.htm

 

 

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<SOMEONETHATREALLYHATESMSSINCEVISTA@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in

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> NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO NEVER UPGARDE TO VISTA IS SUCKS TOO MUCH RESOURCES AND

> RAM.... STAY WITH XP

>

> "msnews.microsoft.com" wrote:

>

>> I am currently running XP MCE SP2 without any problems at all. AMD 64bit

>> 3200, 2 GB RAM, nVidia 6600 GT Video, 250 GB SATA HD. Hauppauge tuner

>> card.

>> Vista upgrade advisor says everything is supported and all device and

>> apps

>> are fine. My typical work is in SQL Server 2005, VStudio 2005 and Office

>> 2007. I use Media Centre occasionally. I am wondering if it is actually

>> worth upgrading to Ultimate. I have read about a lot of issues... it

>> doesn't seem that many peole are very happy with Vista. Any feedback?

>>

>>

>>

A Linux/Ubuntu box

 

"Dave" <dave@beepbeep.com> wrote in message

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> http://www.world-of-toys.com/product_p/505.htm

>

 

So you showed an advanced Linux/Ubuntu box. Who gives a rats ass