Running WinXP - ProSP2

Is there a way to control/dictate to Windows the order in which to start

various auto load programs?

In particular, I run both Norton NIS 2007 and SpySweeper - both which

automatically start with Windows which I prefer, but I would like to specify

that NIS starts first, then SpySweeper.

Now it seems either one starts first, but mostly SpySweeper starts first

which sometimes interferes with NIS loading.

Thanks for any help.

The easiest way to do that would be to remove SpySweeper from the

"Automatic" startup and place it or a "net start" batch file in your

Startup folder instead.

 

John

 

Lexus wrote:

> Running WinXP - ProSP2

> Is there a way to control/dictate to Windows the order in which to start

> various auto load programs?

> In particular, I run both Norton NIS 2007 and SpySweeper - both which

> automatically start with Windows which I prefer, but I would like to specify

> that NIS starts first, then SpySweeper.

> Now it seems either one starts first, but mostly SpySweeper starts first

> which sometimes interferes with NIS loading.

> Thanks for any help.

John,

Sounds like what I want to do is doable, but I'm not that experienced with

batch file creation. Can you give me some guidance on how to create what you

are refering to?

 

In concept, I think you are saying to create a .bat file that will start the

SpySweeper file (referenced within the icon properties), then place this bat

file in the Programs>StartUp folder.

 

Can you write this out for me?

Does the contents of the StartUp folder always start after all other auto

start programs? (ie: does this ensure that it will always start after NIS?)

 

 

 

 

"John John" wrote:

> The easiest way to do that would be to remove SpySweeper from the

> "Automatic" startup and place it or a "net start" batch file in your

> Startup folder instead.

>

> John

>

> Lexus wrote:

>

> > Running WinXP - ProSP2

> > Is there a way to control/dictate to Windows the order in which to start

> > various auto load programs?

> > In particular, I run both Norton NIS 2007 and SpySweeper - both which

> > automatically start with Windows which I prefer, but I would like to specify

> > that NIS starts first, then SpySweeper.

> > Now it seems either one starts first, but mostly SpySweeper starts first

> > which sometimes interferes with NIS loading.

> > Thanks for any help.

>

I have never used SpySweeper so I don't know how it starts. Some

programs start Services instead of the full fledged GUI, that is the

program is running but without the user interface or actual program

window, it runs as a service and parks itself in the Taskbar

Notification Area, aka the System Tray.

 

To simply start the program just drag or put a shortcut to it in your

Startup folder. Note that you can have different switches or parameters

in the shortcut's Properties Target line. If such startup parameters

are available they would or should be documented in the software's

documentation. Note that you can also use the START command in a

batch file instead of a shortcut:

http://www.microsoft.com/resources/documentation/windows/xp/all/proddocs/en-us/start.mspx?mfr=true

 

If the program starts as service then get the name of the service or

services and use a batch file and the NET START command to start the

service. The batch file would contain a single line for each service to

start:

 

net start SpySweepServiceName

 

Note that in batch files or in the Shortcut's Target if there are spaces

in the path or name of the application or service you must surround the

path or name with quotation marks:

 

net start "Spy Sweeper Service Name"

 

or in a shortcut target:

 

"C:\Program Files\Program Folder\Program Name" /Parameter

 

Place the batch file or a shortcut to the batch file in your Startup

folder. If you want the program or service to start for all who log on

to the computer put it in the "All Users" startup folder.

 

You will have to try different methods and see which one suits you best.

You should also check the support web site for the program, maybe they

know of the problems and they may have addressed the issue. The other

way of changing the load order of services is to use SC and the

lpLoadOrderGroup parameter, it's pretty complicated stuff and if you

make mistakes the computer may not boot after the changes:

 

http://search.microsoft.com/results.aspx?q=lpLoadOrderGroup&qsc0=0&SearchBtn0=Search&FORM=QBME1&l=1&mkt=en-US&PageType=99

http://search.microsoft.com/results.aspx?mkt=en-US&setlang=en-US&q=HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE%5cSYSTEM%5cCurrentControlSet%5cControl%5cServiceGroupOrder

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/115486

http://www.microsoft.com/technet/sysinternals/Utilities/LoadOrder.mspx

 

Other than that you might find a third party utility that can do it for you.

 

John

 

 

Lexus wrote:

> John,

> Sounds like what I want to do is doable, but I'm not that experienced with

> batch file creation. Can you give me some guidance on how to create what you

> are refering to?

>

> In concept, I think you are saying to create a .bat file that will start the

> SpySweeper file (referenced within the icon properties), then place this bat

> file in the Programs>StartUp folder.

>

> Can you write this out for me?

> Does the contents of the StartUp folder always start after all other auto

> start programs? (ie: does this ensure that it will always start after NIS?)

>

>

>

>

> "John John" wrote:

>

>

>>The easiest way to do that would be to remove SpySweeper from the

>>"Automatic" startup and place it or a "net start" batch file in your

>>Startup folder instead.

>>

>>John

>>

>>Lexus wrote:

>>

>>

>>>Running WinXP - ProSP2

>>>Is there a way to control/dictate to Windows the order in which to start

>>>various auto load programs?

>>>In particular, I run both Norton NIS 2007 and SpySweeper - both which

>>>automatically start with Windows which I prefer, but I would like to specify

>>>that NIS starts first, then SpySweeper.

>>>Now it seems either one starts first, but mostly SpySweeper starts first

>>>which sometimes interferes with NIS loading.

>>>Thanks for any help.

>>

For the 'net start' command: start/run, type:

HH mk:@MSITStore:%windir%\Help\ntcmds.chm::/net_start.htm

 

To find the service name for spysweeper, start run type:

services.msc

doubleclick the spysweeper service to see its properties. (and set to manual

startup)

 

To create a bat file in notepad, and save as something.bat

 

--??.bat--

net start <spysweeperservicename goes here>

--end file--

 

Drag a shortcut to ??.bat to the startup folder on the start menu.

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"Lexus" wrote:

> John,

> Sounds like what I want to do is doable, but I'm not that experienced with

> batch file creation. Can you give me some guidance on how to create what you

> are refering to?

>

> In concept, I think you are saying to create a .bat file that will start the

> SpySweeper file (referenced within the icon properties), then place this bat

> file in the Programs>StartUp folder.

>

> Can you write this out for me?

> Does the contents of the StartUp folder always start after all other auto

> start programs? (ie: does this ensure that it will always start after NIS?)

>

>

>

>

> "John John" wrote:

>

> > The easiest way to do that would be to remove SpySweeper from the

> > "Automatic" startup and place it or a "net start" batch file in your

> > Startup folder instead.

> >

> > John

> >

> > Lexus wrote:

> >

> > > Running WinXP - ProSP2

> > > Is there a way to control/dictate to Windows the order in which to start

> > > various auto load programs?

> > > In particular, I run both Norton NIS 2007 and SpySweeper - both which

> > > automatically start with Windows which I prefer, but I would like to specify

> > > that NIS starts first, then SpySweeper.

> > > Now it seems either one starts first, but mostly SpySweeper starts first

> > > which sometimes interferes with NIS loading.

> > > Thanks for any help.

> >

Lexus wrote:

> Running WinXP - ProSP2

> Is there a way to control/dictate to Windows the order in which to

> start various auto load programs?

> In particular, I run both Norton NIS 2007 and SpySweeper - both which

> automatically start with Windows which I prefer, but I would like to

> specify that NIS starts first, then SpySweeper.

> Now it seems either one starts first, but mostly SpySweeper starts

> first which sometimes interferes with NIS loading.

> Thanks for any help.

 

Hi Lexus,

 

Are you saying the Icons are not showing one the taskbar when you log

in?

 

If you are then this is a known problem due to Automaric Login, The

programs are runing but are not showing the icon on the taskbar. You

can verify the programs are runing by looking at the Task Manager.

 

Soloutions, do _not_ use automatic logon and wait a minite or two when

the welcome shows before logging in to your desktop. Or simply log off

your account then log back in.

 

--

William Crawford

MS-MVP Windows Shell/User

Mark L. Ferguson wrote:

> For the 'net start' command: start/run, type:

> HH mk:@MSITStore:%windir%\Help\ntcmds.chm::/net_start.htm

>

> To find the service name for spysweeper, start run type:

> services.msc

> doubleclick the spysweeper service to see its properties. (and set to

> manual startup)

>

> To create a bat file in notepad, and save as something.bat

>

> --??.bat--

> net start <spysweeperservicename goes here>

> --end file--

>

> Drag a shortcut to ??.bat to the startup folder on the start menu.

 

This will never work for Spysweeper since the Spysweeper service is

protected by a Winlogon entry.

 

--

William Crawford

MS-MVP Windows Shell/User

Have you looked into Startup Delayer http://www.r2.com.au/ ?

 

Norm

 

 

WTC wrote:

| Lexus wrote:

|

|| Running WinXP - ProSP2

|| Is there a way to control/dictate to Windows the order in which to

|| start various auto load programs?

|| In particular, I run both Norton NIS 2007 and SpySweeper - both which

|| automatically start with Windows which I prefer, but I would like to

|| specify that NIS starts first, then SpySweeper.

|| Now it seems either one starts first, but mostly SpySweeper starts

|| first which sometimes interferes with NIS loading.

|| Thanks for any help.

|

| Hi Lexus,

|

| Are you saying the Icons are not showing one the taskbar when you log

| in?

|

| If you are then this is a known problem due to Automaric Login, The

| programs are runing but are not showing the icon on the taskbar. You

| can verify the programs are runing by looking at the Task Manager.

|

| Soloutions, do _not_ use automatic logon and wait a minite or two when

| the welcome shows before logging in to your desktop. Or simply log off

| your account then log back in.