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is there a way to get win xp updates the old fashion way without putting

more MS software on my machine? If not, is there a work around. I mean, I am

not a MS hater, I appreciate what they offer, I just do not like having

things like that on my machine especially if I can not fully control it.

Thanks much for any assistance you can provide.

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    "Mark G." <askmefirst@comcast.net> wrote:

    >is there a way to get win xp updates the old fashion way without putting

    >more MS software on my machine? If not, is there a work around. I mean, I am

    >not a MS hater, I appreciate what they offer, I just do not like having

    >things like that on my machine especially if I can not fully control it.

    >Thanks much for any assistance you can provide.

     

    Disable auto updates and do it using IE (Tools...)

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    There's no need to install ' more MS software ' to obtain updates since

    it already resides on the system.

    Define " old fashioned way ", please.

     

    Is it this ? :

    Microsoft Download Center

    http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/Search.aspx?displaylang=en

     

    Or this ? :

    How to download updates and drivers from the Windows Update Catalog

    http://support.microsoft.com/kb/323166

     

    Or do they arrive by snail mail ? <w>

     

    MowGreen [MVP 2003-2007]

    ===============

    *-343-* FDNY

    Never Forgotten

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    Mark G. wrote:

    > is there a way to get win xp updates the old fashion way without putting

    > more MS software on my machine? If not, is there a work around. I mean, I am

    > not a MS hater, I appreciate what they offer, I just do not like having

    > things like that on my machine especially if I can not fully control it.

    > Thanks much for any assistance you can provide.

    >

    >

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    I mean, now when I go to get my updates, it says this:

     

    Get the latest Windows Update software.

     

     

    We've made improvements to our website. To download the new version of the

    software and begin using Windows Update, please click Install Now.

     

    Seems this is a new "service" they are trying to get you involved in. Says

    this:

     

    Now you can get updates for Windows, Office and other Microsoft applications

    all in one place. Microsoft Update is a new service that brings you all the

    features and benefits of Windows Update plus downloads for other Microsoft

    applications including Office.

     

     

    I go about this by clicking my start button and windows update. I just want

    it to tell me what is available so I can choose what to download and install

    by going through the custom option.

     

    Does that make it more clear? If not, then please let me know. Thanks much.

    "MowGreen [MVP]" <mowgreen@nowandzen.com> wrote in message

    news:ep1$HpBvHHA.1164@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

    > There's no need to install ' more MS software ' to obtain updates since it

    > already resides on the system.

    > Define " old fashioned way ", please.

    >

    > Is it this ? :

    > Microsoft Download Center

    > http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/Search.aspx?displaylang=en

    >

    > Or this ? :

    > How to download updates and drivers from the Windows Update Catalog

    > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/323166

    >

    > Or do they arrive by snail mail ? <w>

    >

    > MowGreen [MVP 2003-2007]

    > ===============

    > *-343-* FDNY

    > Never Forgotten

    > ===============

    >

    >

    >

    > Mark G. wrote:

    >

    >> is there a way to get win xp updates the old fashion way without putting

    >> more MS software on my machine? If not, is there a work around. I mean, I

    >> am not a MS hater, I appreciate what they offer, I just do not like

    >> having things like that on my machine especially if I can not fully

    >> control it. Thanks much for any assistance you can provide.

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    It either takes me here:

     

    http://update.microsoft.com/microsoftupdate/v6/muoptdefault.aspx?ln=en-us

     

    Or here:

     

    http://update.microsoft.com/windowsupdate/v6/default.aspx?ln=en

     

     

    "MowGreen [MVP]" <mowgreen@nowandzen.com> wrote in message

    news:ep1$HpBvHHA.1164@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

    > There's no need to install ' more MS software ' to obtain updates since it

    > already resides on the system.

    > Define " old fashioned way ", please.

    >

    > Is it this ? :

    > Microsoft Download Center

    > http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/Search.aspx?displaylang=en

    >

    > Or this ? :

    > How to download updates and drivers from the Windows Update Catalog

    > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/323166

    >

    > Or do they arrive by snail mail ? <w>

    >

    > MowGreen [MVP 2003-2007]

    > ===============

    > *-343-* FDNY

    > Never Forgotten

    > ===============

    >

    >

    >

    > Mark G. wrote:

    >

    >> is there a way to get win xp updates the old fashion way without putting

    >> more MS software on my machine? If not, is there a work around. I mean, I

    >> am not a MS hater, I appreciate what they offer, I just do not like

    >> having things like that on my machine especially if I can not fully

    >> control it. Thanks much for any assistance you can provide.

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    You do need to install the new software that's *forced* upon you before you

    can use WU in any manner (it's just a new version of the WU engine), but

    that is separate from Microsoft Updates, which is entirely optional. At

    least, that was the case only a couple of weeks ago.

     

    --

    Gary S. Terhune

    MS-MVP Shell/User

    http://www.grystmill.com

     

    "Mark G." <askmefirst@comcast.net> wrote in message

    news:OY9X2mHvHHA.4784@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

    >I mean, now when I go to get my updates, it says this:

    >

    > Get the latest Windows Update software.

    >

    >

    > We've made improvements to our website. To download the new version of the

    > software and begin using Windows Update, please click Install Now.

    >

    > Seems this is a new "service" they are trying to get you involved in. Says

    > this:

    >

    > Now you can get updates for Windows, Office and other Microsoft

    > applications all in one place. Microsoft Update is a new service that

    > brings you all the features and benefits of Windows Update plus downloads

    > for other Microsoft applications including Office.

    >

    >

    > I go about this by clicking my start button and windows update. I just

    > want it to tell me what is available so I can choose what to download and

    > install by going through the custom option.

    >

    > Does that make it more clear? If not, then please let me know. Thanks

    > much.

    > "MowGreen [MVP]" <mowgreen@nowandzen.com> wrote in message

    > news:ep1$HpBvHHA.1164@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

    >> There's no need to install ' more MS software ' to obtain updates since

    >> it already resides on the system.

    >> Define " old fashioned way ", please.

    >>

    >> Is it this ? :

    >> Microsoft Download Center

    >> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/Search.aspx?displaylang=en

    >>

    >> Or this ? :

    >> How to download updates and drivers from the Windows Update Catalog

    >> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/323166

    >>

    >> Or do they arrive by snail mail ? <w>

    >>

    >> MowGreen [MVP 2003-2007]

    >> ===============

    >> *-343-* FDNY

    >> Never Forgotten

    >> ===============

    >>

    >>

    >>

    >> Mark G. wrote:

    >>

    >>> is there a way to get win xp updates the old fashion way without putting

    >>> more MS software on my machine? If not, is there a work around. I mean,

    >>> I am not a MS hater, I appreciate what they offer, I just do not like

    >>> having things like that on my machine especially if I can not fully

    >>> control it. Thanks much for any assistance you can provide.

    >

    >

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    No, it take you to one or the other. Recommend that you stick with

    Windows Update. One must opt into Microsoft Update in order to reach

    that site.

    From the looks of the first URL, that's the opt in link to MU via the

    WU site.

    As Gary Terhune has already explained, the Windows Update site now

    requires an updated version of the Windows Update Agent due to an issue

    with the previous scan detection that was causing systems to lock up.

     

    You can install both of the updates needed to resolve that issue from

    these links, if you so choose:

     

    Windows Update Agent 3.0 (x86) [XP, WS2003, Win2K]

    http://download.windowsupdate.com/v7/windowsupdate/redist/standalone/WindowsUpdateAgent30-x86.exe

     

    KB927891

    http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=7A81B0CD-A0B9-497E-8A89-404327772E5A&displaylang=en

     

    SAVE the updates, do not run them

    When the downloads complete close the browser and any other open programs

    Now run WindowsUpdateAgent30-x86.exe [if a message appears that WUA is

    already installed, then go here:

    http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/blogs/mowgreen/index.php?showentry=1071

    Scroll down to the May 4th posting to see how to install it with /wuforce]

     

    Then run WindowsXP-KB927891-v3-x86-ENU.exe

    Restart the system

     

     

    MowGreen [MVP 2003-2007]

    ===============

    *-343-* FDNY

    Never Forgotten

    ===============

     

     

    Mark G. wrote:

    > It either takes me here:

    >

    > http://update.microsoft.com/microsoftupdate/v6/muoptdefault.aspx?ln=en-us

    >

    > Or here:

    >

    > http://update.microsoft.com/windowsupdate/v6/default.aspx?ln=en

    >

    >

    > "MowGreen [MVP]" <mowgreen@nowandzen.com> wrote in message

    > news:ep1$HpBvHHA.1164@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

    >

    >>There's no need to install ' more MS software ' to obtain updates since it

    >>already resides on the system.

    >>Define " old fashioned way ", please.

    >>

    >>Is it this ? :

    >>Microsoft Download Center

    >>http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/Search.aspx?displaylang=en

    >>

    >>Or this ? :

    >>How to download updates and drivers from the Windows Update Catalog

    >>http://support.microsoft.com/kb/323166

    >>

    >>Or do they arrive by snail mail ? <w>

    >>

    >>MowGreen [MVP 2003-2007]

    >>===============

    >> *-343-* FDNY

    >>Never Forgotten

    >>===============

    >>

    >>

    >>

    >>Mark G. wrote:

    >>

    >>

    >>>is there a way to get win xp updates the old fashion way without putting

    >>>more MS software on my machine? If not, is there a work around. I mean, I

    >>>am not a MS hater, I appreciate what they offer, I just do not like

    >>>having things like that on my machine especially if I can not fully

    >>>control it. Thanks much for any assistance you can provide.

    >

    >

    >

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