is there anyone left who likes vista?

August 31, 200717 yr

"Jupiter Jones [MVP]" <jones_jupiter@hotnomail.com> wrote in message

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> Ken

> I probably should have worded this differently since I also do not speak

> for all MVPs:

> "The MVPs do NOT want that."

> However past experience shows me at least the vast majority of MVPs do not

> want it.

You are probably right there.

I say "probably" only because I personally haven't heard from the vast

majority on this question.

--

Ken Blake - Microsoft MVP Windows: Shell/User

Please reply to the newsgroup

>

> --

> Jupiter Jones [MVP]

>

> "Ken Blake" <kblake@this.is.an.invalid.domain> wrote in message

> news:ee8UE7%236HHA.5012@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>> I don't want to try to speak for all MVPs, but I'll speak for myself and

>> agree with you completely. I certainly don't want it.

>

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August 31, 200717 yr

On Fri, 31 Aug 2007 11:52:11 -0700, Frank <fb@nospan.crm> wrote:

>Adam Albright wrote:

>

>> On Fri, 31 Aug 2007 11:10:37 -0600, "Jupiter Jones [MVP]"

>> <jones_jupiter@hotnomail.com> wrote:

>>

>>>Ken

>>>I probably should have worded this differently since I also do not

>>>speak for all MVPs:

>>>"The MVPs do NOT want that."

>>>However past experience shows me at least the vast majority of MVPs do

>>>not want it.

>>

>> The less speaking MVPs like Jupiter do the better this newsgroup

>> becomes.

>>

>

>Coming from such a bs diatribe artist like you I'd say the less lying

>crap you post the better off this ng would be.

>BTW, how's china looking? Almost there yet?

>Frank

Is there a topic left you haven't made a total ass of yourself in

Frankie?

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August 31, 200717 yr

"Ken Blake" <kblake@this.is.an.invalid.domain> wrote:

> I don't want to try to speak for all MVPs, but I'll speak for

> myself and agree with you completely. I certainly don't want it.

What you and Jupiter Jones want is no longer possible, this newsgroup

has lost any shred of functionality or usefulness it ever had due to

the trolls (and those who respond to them.)

Even using a newsreader with scoring capabilities it's difficult to

read through the crap and I pity the poor fool who comes here thinking

he/she will get an answer to a question before the trolls jump in.

I found this in another news group and it's worthy of posting here:

"I've had enough, (name of troll). Your pride is in knowing your antics

here have turned away another reader. Group deleted from my Agent

list."

See what's happening? I have to direct any questions I get about Vista

to one of the GRC groups even though there aren't nearly as many

knowledgeable people there as there are here but the groups ARE

moderated and the trolls here wouldn't last past one post there.

Microsoft really needs to delete this entire group or moderate it.

I'll agree the MVPs shouldn't do it but someone must and IMHO it needs

doing NOW!

--

XS11E, Killing all posts from Google Groups

The Usenet Improvement Project: http://blinkynet.net/comp/uip5.html

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August 31, 200717 yr

"XS11E" <xs11e@NOSPAMyahoo.com> wrote in message

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> "Ken Blake" <kblake@this.is.an.invalid.domain> wrote:

>

>> I don't want to try to speak for all MVPs, but I'll speak for

>> myself and agree with you completely. I certainly don't want it.

>

> What you and Jupiter Jones want is no longer possible, this newsgroup

> has lost any shred of functionality or usefulness it ever had due to

> the trolls (and those who respond to them.)

Thanks for being a part of it !

>

> Even using a newsreader with scoring capabilities it's difficult to

> read through the crap and I pity the poor fool who comes here thinking

> he/she will get an answer to a question before the trolls jump in.

>

> I found this in another news group and it's worthy of posting here:

>

> "I've had enough, (name of troll). Your pride is in knowing your antics

> here have turned away another reader. Group deleted from my Agent

> list."

>

> See what's happening? I have to direct any questions I get about Vista

> to one of the GRC groups even though there aren't nearly as many

> knowledgeable people there as there are here but the groups ARE

> moderated and the trolls here wouldn't last past one post there.

>

> Microsoft really needs to delete this entire group or moderate it.

> I'll agree the MVPs shouldn't do it but someone must and IMHO it needs

> doing NOW!

>

> --

> XS11E, Killing all posts from Google Groups

> The Usenet Improvement Project: http://blinkynet.net/comp/uip5.html

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August 31, 200717 yr

On Fri, 31 Aug 2007 12:33:23 -0700, "Bill Yanaire" <bill@yanaire.com>

wrote:

>

>"XS11E" <xs11e@NOSPAMyahoo.com> wrote in message

>news:Xns999D7EE4E3AD8xs11eyahoocom@127.0.0.1...

>> "Ken Blake" <kblake@this.is.an.invalid.domain> wrote:

>>

>>> I don't want to try to speak for all MVPs, but I'll speak for

>>> myself and agree with you completely. I certainly don't want it.

>>

>> What you and Jupiter Jones want is no longer possible, this newsgroup

>> has lost any shred of functionality or usefulness it ever had due to

>> the trolls (and those who respond to them.)

>

>Thanks for being a part of it !

A lot of MVPs that post here don't know their place or have a clue

what a MVP is expected to do. A good MVP simply answers questions, he

doesn't share his political opinions or try to blow some whistle or in

general constantly act like a jerk. Supposedly they were picked to be

MVPs in the first place because they may know a little something and

demonstrated they can keep their cool. You see the same thing happen

to posters that happens to a lot of cops. Give a poster the label MVP

or a cop a tin badge and they think they can walk on water and have a

right to bad mouth citizens.

Clowns like Jupiter love to hold court, pontificate, whine, bitch,

moan and pretend they're in charge and scold everybody else and get a

kick out of talking down to others or saying they're posting in the

wrong group and engage in other rude behavior. Jupiter isn't the only

ill tempered MVP here, but recently he is the most vocal.

Microsoft had planned to kill the MVP program years ago. They didn't,

because a lot of people begged please don't and now it is next to

useless and hurts Microsoft's image more than it helps.

As I've said many times before there are still some knowledgeable and

helpful MVPs around. Most don't come near this goofy general purpose

newsgroup with a ten foot pole because characters like Jupiter have

poisoned the water.

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August 31, 200717 yr

"Of course not, they described..."

No, you and others use politics in an attempt to take a thread into

politics.

If politics is what you want, post to an appropriate newsgroup, this

is not the place.

"Did I deliberately ignored your request"

Actually you can best answer that.

The fact is you did NOT respond to the request.

Any change at all may require the user to learn if new/changed

features are to be used.

You seem fixated on picking on small portions and ignoring the

context.

Your picking on the word "properly" is another example.

"is just stupid, for anyone that's already familiar"

Perhaps for you, unlike you I prefer not to suggest others are

"stupid".

You name some of the basics but conveniently ignore other changes.

Learning some changes will take less than a few seconds for some,

others will take significantly longer.

Also different people will learn different things at different rates.

Or perhaps you do not care if anyone learns how to properly use a

tool.

--

Jupiter Jones [MVP]

"DanS" <t.h.i.s.n.t.h.a.t@a.d.e.l.p.h.i.a.n.e.t> wrote in message

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> "Jupiter Jones [MVP]" <jones_jupiter@hotnomail.com> wrote in

> news:e5qeXc#6HHA.1208@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl:

>

>> "Oh wait. I guess it's my fault that I don't understand your

>> answer"

>> This time very much so since you IGNORED my request to rephrase.

>>

>> Your irrelevant political statements also do NOTHING for your

>> statements.

>

> Of course not, they described the content of your reply, and not

> meant to

> add or describe any content of my post.

>

>> I asked for you to rephrase the question and you IGNORED it.

>> Do not complain about an answer when you deliberately avoid the

>> request.

>

> Did I deliberately ignored your request, or did YOU (accented and

> spoken

> stretched) deliberately not answer MY question.

>

>> Can you rephrase the question?

>> Or are you simply going to add more irrelevant comments to screen

>> your

>> real issue?

>

> What is there to re-phrase ?

>

> OK. (Slowly this time, with more specific detail.)

>

> 1. People come here having problems with Vista.

> 2. They post a question.

> 3. Many times they are told they need to 'learn how to use' Vista.

>

> So in the case of turning on the PC, how is Vista different than

> older

> version of Windows ? Not, you push the button.

>

> How is logging in different ? Not.

> How is starting program different ? Not. You dbl click an icon on

> the

> desktop usually.

> How is installing programs different ? OK, this one is, as you

> usually

> need to run at an elevated priviledge.

>

> I know locations of standard windows things are changed, but that is

> a

> far cry from 'learning to use Vista properly'.

>

> What I've been trying to say I guess, is that I know it's a new OS,

> and

> some things have changed, but the phrase:

>

> 'learn how to use Vista properly'

>

> is just stupid, for anyone that's already familiar with previous MS

> OS's.

>

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August 31, 200717 yr

Adam Albright wrote:

> On Fri, 31 Aug 2007 11:52:11 -0700, Frank <fb@nospan.crm> wrote:

>

>>Adam Albright wrote:

>>

>>>On Fri, 31 Aug 2007 11:10:37 -0600, "Jupiter Jones [MVP]"

>>><jones_jupiter@hotnomail.com> wrote:

>>>

>>>>Ken

>>>>I probably should have worded this differently since I also do not

>>>>speak for all MVPs:

>>>>"The MVPs do NOT want that."

>>>>However past experience shows me at least the vast majority of MVPs do

>>>>not want it.

>>>

>>>The less speaking MVPs like Jupiter do the better this newsgroup

>>>becomes.

>>>

>>

>>Coming from such a bs diatribe artist like you I'd say the less lying

>>crap you post the better off this ng would be.

>>BTW, how's china looking? Almost there yet?

>>Frank

>

> Is there a topic left you haven't made a total ass of yourself in

> Frankie?

>

Is there a lie you haven't yet told?

Use the all the space below if needed.

Frank

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August 31, 200717 yr

Adam Albright wrote:

>

> A lot of MVPs that post here don't know their place or have a clue

> what a MVP is expected to do. A good MVP simply answers questions, he

> doesn't share his political opinions or try to blow some whistle or in

> general constantly act like a jerk. Supposedly they were picked to be

> MVPs in the first place because they may know a little something and

> demonstrated they can keep their cool. You see the same thing happen

> to posters that happens to a lot of cops. Give a poster the label MVP

> or a cop a tin badge and they think they can walk on water and have a

> right to bad mouth citizens.

>

> Clowns like Jupiter love to hold court, pontificate, whine, bitch,

> moan and pretend they're in charge and scold everybody else and get a

> kick out of talking down to others or saying they're posting in the

> wrong group and engage in other rude behavior. Jupiter isn't the only

> ill tempered MVP here, but recently he is the most vocal.

>

> Microsoft had planned to kill the MVP program years ago. They didn't,

> because a lot of people begged please don't and now it is next to

> useless and hurts Microsoft's image more than it helps.

>

> As I've said many times before there are still some knowledgeable and

> helpful MVPs around. Most don't come near this goofy general purpose

> newsgroup with a ten foot pole because characters like Jupiter have

> poisoned the water.

>

Of all the lying bs artist I've ever hear, you georgie-boy take the

cake. Make a fukkin fool out of yourself on a daily basis about subjects

that you know absolutely nothing at all about. Then you have the sheer

stupidity to call others "clowns" while you alone hold the grand prize

for being the biggest clown of all.

You never cease to amaze me by just how often you sound like the idiot

you are and act the fool you certainly must be.

Frank

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http://aumha.org/nntp.htm

August 31, 200717 yr

This is a Vista general newsgroup so it should catch what is missed by

the other more specific Vista newsgroups.

Many questions asked here would be better asked in a more specific

newsgroup.

At times I suggest that and usually the stalker comes along and

suggests I am trying to control.

The stalker probably can not stand anything that may move people to a

better resource since he will no longer be heard by him here.

But the the stalker is known for attacking while providing nothing of

value to the OPs question.

"I pity the poor fool who comes here thinking..."

Another very good reason to refer them to a more appropriate

newsgroup.

There are a lot of newsgroups for Windows Vista and most other

Microsoft products:

Of course for other products there are a wide variety of forums and

newsgroups.

--

Jupiter Jones [MVP]

"XS11E" <xs11e@NOSPAMyahoo.com> wrote in message

news:Xns999D7EE4E3AD8xs11eyahoocom@127.0.0.1...

> "Ken Blake" <kblake@this.is.an.invalid.domain> wrote:

>

>> I don't want to try to speak for all MVPs, but I'll speak for

>> myself and agree with you completely. I certainly don't want it.

>

> What you and Jupiter Jones want is no longer possible, this

> newsgroup

> has lost any shred of functionality or usefulness it ever had due to

> the trolls (and those who respond to them.)

>

> Even using a newsreader with scoring capabilities it's difficult to

> read through the crap and I pity the poor fool who comes here

> thinking

> he/she will get an answer to a question before the trolls jump in.

>

> I found this in another news group and it's worthy of posting here:

>

> "I've had enough, (name of troll). Your pride is in knowing your

> antics

> here have turned away another reader. Group deleted from my Agent

> list."

>

> See what's happening? I have to direct any questions I get about

> Vista

> to one of the GRC groups even though there aren't nearly as many

> knowledgeable people there as there are here but the groups ARE

> moderated and the trolls here wouldn't last past one post there.

>

> Microsoft really needs to delete this entire group or moderate it.

> I'll agree the MVPs shouldn't do it but someone must and IMHO it

> needs

> doing NOW!

>

> --

> XS11E, Killing all posts from Google Groups

> The Usenet Improvement Project: http://blinkynet.net/comp/uip5.html

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August 31, 200717 yr

vista terminal ator wrote:

> I remember when vista first came out people were saying how great it

> was.. then slowly but steadily they started backpedaling...

I loved Windows since it was launched by typing WIN at the DOS prompt.

Windows Vista makes me want to scream, pull my hair out, and try Linux.

Terry

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1. http://redwing.hutman.net/~mreed/warriorshtm/godfather.htm

August 31, 200717 yr

On Fri, 31 Aug 2007 15:14:19 -0600, "Jupiter Jones [MVP]"

<jones_jupiter@hotnomail.com> wrote:

>This is a Vista general newsgroup so it should catch what is missed by

>the other more specific Vista newsgroups.

>Many questions asked here would be better asked in a more specific

>newsgroup.

>At times I suggest that and usually the stalker comes along and

>suggests I am trying to control.

You're just a control freak. Nobody put you in charge. How many times

you need to be reminded before it sinks in?

I'm having trouble deciding which you are most like. Actually you

exhibit traits of all of the following plus others.

2. http://redwing.hutman.net/~mreed/warriorshtm/weenie.htm

3. http://redwing.hutman.net/~mreed/warriorshtm/blowhard.htm

4. http://redwing.hutman.net/~mreed/warriorshtm/crybaby.htm

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September 1, 200717 yr

On Fri, 31 Aug 2007 12:28:27 -0700, XS11E wrote:

>

> What you and Jupiter Jones want is no longer possible, this newsgroup

> has lost any shred of functionality or usefulness it ever had due to the

> trolls (and those who respond to them.)

>

This group is useful as a reference point for people who are considering

the purchase of a Vista computer, and as a sanity check for people who

have already done so. Any expectations beyond that are out of touch with

reality. Vista is a mess, with numerous well-known problems that have

yet to be solved by anyone.

>

> See what's happening? I have to direct any questions I get about Vista

> to one of the GRC groups even though there aren't nearly as many

> knowledgeable people there as there are here but the groups ARE

> moderated and the trolls here wouldn't last past one post there.

Why can't you direct your questions about Vista to Microsoft? If you're

using it anyplace outside of Asia, chances are you paid through the nose

for it, and you shouldn't have to rely on Usenet for tech support.

Charlie

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> 1. http://redwing.hutman.net/~mreed/warriorshtm/godfather.htm

September 1, 200717 yr

Adam Albright wrote:

> On Fri, 31 Aug 2007 15:14:19 -0600, "Jupiter Jones [MVP]"

> <jones_jupiter@hotnomail.com> wrote:

>

>>This is a Vista general newsgroup so it should catch what is missed by

>>the other more specific Vista newsgroups.

>>Many questions asked here would be better asked in a more specific

>>newsgroup.

>>At times I suggest that and usually the stalker comes along and

>>suggests I am trying to control.

>

> You're just a control freak. Nobody put you in charge. How many times

> you need to be reminded before it sinks in?

>

> I'm having trouble deciding which you are most like. Actually you

> exhibit traits of all of the following plus others.

>

>

> 2. http://redwing.hutman.net/~mreed/warriorshtm/weenie.htm

>

> 3. http://redwing.hutman.net/~mreed/warriorshtm/blowhard.htm

>

> 4. http://redwing.hutman.net/~mreed/warriorshtm/crybaby.htm

>

hehehe...you're really one piece of stupid sh*t aren't you aa.

That's it! aa...go to aa...that will help you get over your drunken bs

bad habits and maybe become a real human being instead of this pompous

as*hole moron you currently are.

Try it...try anything.

Frank

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>> 1. http://redwing.hutman.net/~mreed/warriorshtm/godfather.htm

September 1, 200717 yr

On Fri, 31 Aug 2007 19:28:10 -0700, Frank <fb@nospan.crm> wrote:

>Adam Albright wrote:

>

>> On Fri, 31 Aug 2007 15:14:19 -0600, "Jupiter Jones [MVP]"

>> <jones_jupiter@hotnomail.com> wrote:

>>

>>>This is a Vista general newsgroup so it should catch what is missed by

>>>the other more specific Vista newsgroups.

>>>Many questions asked here would be better asked in a more specific

>>>newsgroup.

>>>At times I suggest that and usually the stalker comes along and

>>>suggests I am trying to control.

>>

>> You're just a control freak. Nobody put you in charge. How many times

>> you need to be reminded before it sinks in?

>>

>> I'm having trouble deciding which you are most like. Actually you

>> exhibit traits of all of the following plus others.

>>

>>

>> 2. http://redwing.hutman.net/~mreed/warriorshtm/weenie.htm

>>

>> 3. http://redwing.hutman.net/~mreed/warriorshtm/blowhard.htm

>>

>> 4. http://redwing.hutman.net/~mreed/warriorshtm/crybaby.htm

>>

>

>hehehe...you're really one piece of stupid sh*t aren't you aa.

>That's it! aa...go to aa...that will help you get over your drunken bs

>bad habits and maybe become a real human being instead of this pompous

>as*hole moron you currently are.

>Try it...try anything.

>Frank

Don't like me kicking you in your big fat stupid ass do you.

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>> 1. http://redwing.hutman.net/~mreed/warriorshtm/godfather.htm

September 1, 200717 yr

Frank <fb@nospan.crm> wrote in news:uI7p9#D7HHA.5404

@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl:

> Adam Albright wrote:

>

>> On Fri, 31 Aug 2007 15:14:19 -0600, "Jupiter Jones [MVP]"

>> <jones_jupiter@hotnomail.com> wrote:

>>

>>>This is a Vista general newsgroup so it should catch what is missed by

>>>the other more specific Vista newsgroups.

>>>Many questions asked here would be better asked in a more specific

>>>newsgroup.

>>>At times I suggest that and usually the stalker comes along and

>>>suggests I am trying to control.

>>

>> You're just a control freak. Nobody put you in charge. How many times

>> you need to be reminded before it sinks in?

>>

>> I'm having trouble deciding which you are most like. Actually you

>> exhibit traits of all of the following plus others.

>>

>>

>> 2. http://redwing.hutman.net/~mreed/warriorshtm/weenie.htm

>>

>> 3. http://redwing.hutman.net/~mreed/warriorshtm/blowhard.htm

>>

>> 4. http://redwing.hutman.net/~mreed/warriorshtm/crybaby.htm

>>

>

> hehehe...you're really one piece of stupid sh*t aren't you aa.

> That's it! aa...go to aa...that will help you get over your drunken bs

> bad habits and maybe become a real human being instead of this pompous

> as*hole moron you currently are.

> Try it...try anything.

> Frank

WTF is it with you and your hatred of alcohol? Did Daddy always come home

drunk and love you too much, Frank?

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September 1, 200717 yr

you have to learn vista in the sense that you have to know its perverted

strange disgusting bugs and cuprits that make it a far worse OS than any

other

"Adam Albright" <AA@ABC.net> wrote in message

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> On Thu, 30 Aug 2007 19:21:21 -0600, "Jupiter Jones [MVP]"

> <jones_jupiter@hotnomail.com> wrote:

>

>>I never said that.

>>But every time I had a new vehicle, I have had to learn the new

>>placement of different items such as the placement of the light

>>control, cruise control, radio etc.

>>Even then some of the controls are completely different.

>>Those types of changes need to be learned with every new vehicle if

>>those features are to be used.

>>The same applies when a new vehicle comes with a feature not

>>previously on vehicles.

>>There obviously is a learning curve with a different car.

>

> Actually no. The critical things are standardized. The brake pedal is

> always left of the gas pedal. In the states the steering wheel is

> always on the left side. Tires take air. It says P for park, D for

> drive.

>

> Yes bells and whistles change. That's all that changes in Windows

> version to version. There's a new opening and closing "tune", wow, I'm

> impressed I had to "learn" that. The desktop is prettier, but most

> people still keep their popular shortcuts there and shortcuts still

> start applications like they always have.

>

> That's why I don't get what people are saying they have to "learn"

> Vista. Click on File to open a file. It's been like that from the

> beginning. Files are still displayed in Windows Explorer. The

> structure is still two window panes, you still can expand and collapse

> folders. You still click on Start to exit as dumb as it is. -)

>

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September 1, 200717 yr

At least it might be of some use to those looking for help with Vista,

instead of the childish mess that it is now.

--------------------

Abandon all hope ye who have entered cyberspace.

"vista terminal ator" <-> wrote in message

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> oh so then we would have only stinky malformed delerious opinions about

> how great the worse edition of windows ever really is!

>

> "David A. Spicer" <vista_ultimate_fan@hotmail.com> wrote in message

> news:uLbOSH66HHA.4660@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>> It sure would be nice if Microsoft would allow the MVP's to moderate

>> these newsgroups.

>> --------------------

>> Falling is harmless. The abrupt stop at the end is not.

>>

>> "Adam Albright" <AA@ABC.net> wrote in message

>> news:95jed3hssrkj27ugamrgpahvi98h3qg4lb@4ax.com...

>>> On Thu, 30 Aug 2007 16:26:22 -0600, "Jupiter Jones [MVP]"

>>> <jones_jupiter@hotnomail.com> wrote:

>>>

>>>>"for some perverted reason"

>>>>Some have made a little effort to learn how to use Windows Vista, just

>>>>as is necessary with almost any new product, not just technology.

>>>>Shame you consider learning as "perverted".

>>>

>>> You're starting to stink up the newsgroup again with your silly high

>>> and mighty pontificating routine.

>>>

>>> Point of observation: The less posts from MVPs, the less noise there

>>> is in this newsgroup.

>>>

>

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September 1, 200717 yr

Then maybe we need some new MVP's.

--------------------

STATUS QUO is Latin for 'the mess we're in.'

"Jupiter Jones [MVP]" <jones_jupiter@hotnomail.com> wrote in message

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> Absolutely not.

> And whenever that very subject comes up privately or publically, the same

> STRONG answer of NO comes up.

> The MVPs do NOT want that.

>

> --

> Jupiter Jones [MVP]

>

> "David A. Spicer" <vista_ultimate_fan@hotmail.com> wrote in message

> news:uLbOSH66HHA.4660@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>> It sure would be nice if Microsoft would allow the MVP's to moderate

>> these newsgroups.

>> --------------------

>> Falling is harmless. The abrupt stop at the end is not.

>

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http://www.microsoft.com/windows/products/windowsvista/features/default.mspx

September 1, 200717 yr

David

You mean MVPs that desire to control the newsgroup postings?

My experience is that most MVPs think the ability to delete posts is a

bad idea.

I would not be surprised if 99% of the over 3,000 MVPs agree with

that.

Feel free to nominate someone.

New MVPs are added regularly.

Q13 is one place for suggestions regarding the MVP program:

Here is a link to start since you are unwilling or unable to search

for it:

--

Jupiter Jones [MVP]

"David A. Spicer" <vista_ultimate_fan@hotmail.com> wrote in message

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> Then maybe we need some new MVP's.

> --------------------

> STATUS QUO is Latin for 'the mess we're in.'

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http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/gp/mvpfaqs

September 1, 200717 yr

I missed a link in my last post.

Q13 is one place for suggestions regarding the MVP program:

--

Jupiter Jones [MVP]

> http://www.microsoft.com/windows/products/windowsvista/features/default.mspx

"Jupiter Jones [MVP]" <jones_jupiter@hotnomail.com> wrote in message

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> David

> You mean MVPs that desire to control the newsgroup postings?

> My experience is that most MVPs think the ability to delete posts is

> a bad idea.

> I would not be surprised if 99% of the over 3,000 MVPs agree with

> that.

>

> Feel free to nominate someone.

> New MVPs are added regularly.

> Q13 is one place for suggestions regarding the MVP program:

> Here is a link to start since you are unwilling or unable to search

> for it:

>

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> Jupiter Jones [MVP]

>

> "David A. Spicer" <vista_ultimate_fan@hotmail.com> wrote in message

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>> Then maybe we need some new MVP's.

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>> STATUS QUO is Latin for 'the mess we're in.'

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September 1, 200717 yr

No, I didn't mean delete posts. Merely warning, and banning if necessary,

the posters of these worthless posts would suffice.

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*Every* draft is a first draft.

"Jupiter Jones [MVP]" <jones_jupiter@hotnomail.com> wrote in message

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> David

> You mean MVPs that desire to control the newsgroup postings?

> My experience is that most MVPs think the ability to delete posts is a bad

> idea.

> I would not be surprised if 99% of the over 3,000 MVPs agree with that.

>

> Feel free to nominate someone.

> New MVPs are added regularly.

> Q13 is one place for suggestions regarding the MVP program:

> Here is a link to start since you are unwilling or unable to search for

> it:

>

> --

> Jupiter Jones [MVP]

>

> "David A. Spicer" <vista_ultimate_fan@hotmail.com> wrote in message

> news:ea8QnAG7HHA.5096@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>> Then maybe we need some new MVP's.

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>> STATUS QUO is Latin for 'the mess we're in.'

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September 1, 200717 yr

Jupiter, this is the perfect example of what I was talking about.

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Sinister Dexter has a broken spirometer.

"vista terminal ator" <-> wrote in message

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> you have to learn vista in the sense that you have to know its perverted

> strange disgusting bugs and cuprits that make it a far worse OS than any

> other

>

> "Adam Albright" <AA@ABC.net> wrote in message

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>> On Thu, 30 Aug 2007 19:21:21 -0600, "Jupiter Jones [MVP]"

>> <jones_jupiter@hotnomail.com> wrote:

>>

>>>I never said that.

>>>But every time I had a new vehicle, I have had to learn the new

>>>placement of different items such as the placement of the light

>>>control, cruise control, radio etc.

>>>Even then some of the controls are completely different.

>>>Those types of changes need to be learned with every new vehicle if

>>>those features are to be used.

>>>The same applies when a new vehicle comes with a feature not

>>>previously on vehicles.

>>>There obviously is a learning curve with a different car.

>>

>> Actually no. The critical things are standardized. The brake pedal is

>> always left of the gas pedal. In the states the steering wheel is

>> always on the left side. Tires take air. It says P for park, D for

>> drive.

>>

>> Yes bells and whistles change. That's all that changes in Windows

>> version to version. There's a new opening and closing "tune", wow, I'm

>> impressed I had to "learn" that. The desktop is prettier, but most

>> people still keep their popular shortcuts there and shortcuts still

>> start applications like they always have.

>>

>> That's why I don't get what people are saying they have to "learn"

>> Vista. Click on File to open a file. It's been like that from the

>> beginning. Files are still displayed in Windows Explorer. The

>> structure is still two window panes, you still can expand and collapse

>> folders. You still click on Start to exit as dumb as it is. -)

>>

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September 1, 200717 yr

What I said about deleting posts applies to banning posters as well.

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Jupiter Jones [MVP]

"David A. Spicer" <vista_ultimate_fan@hotmail.com> wrote in message

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> No, I didn't mean delete posts. Merely warning, and banning if

> necessary, the posters of these worthless posts would suffice.

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> *Every* draft is a first draft.

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September 1, 200717 yr

Well in that case, I applaud the patience of you and your fellow MVP's.

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Artificial Intelligence usually beats real stupidity.

"Jupiter Jones [MVP]" <jones_jupiter@hotnomail.com> wrote in message

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> What I said about deleting posts applies to banning posters as well.

>

> --

> Jupiter Jones [MVP]

>

> "David A. Spicer" <vista_ultimate_fan@hotmail.com> wrote in message

> news:9A1D3728-10C2-4EAD-9A11-20D13AEF1EA2@microsoft.com...

>> No, I didn't mean delete posts. Merely warning, and banning if necessary,

>> the posters of these worthless posts would suffice.

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>> *Every* draft is a first draft.

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