I remember when vista first came out people were saying how great it was..

then slowly but steadily they started backpedaling...

 

now most of those same people are saying that they are waiting for SP1 to

save them... LOL

"vista terminal ator" challenged...

>I remember when vista first came out people were saying how great it was..

>then slowly but steadily they started backpedaling...

>

> now most of those same people are saying that they are waiting for SP1 to

> save them... LOL

>

>

Sure, I still think it's a really good system for home users, but I told my

boss we shouldn't jump into it, because what we have already is doing the

job. Mainly, though, it's because most of my co-workers would choke on the

learning curve, as they call it. -)

vista terminal ator wrote:

> I remember when vista first came out people were saying how great it was..

> then slowly but steadily they started backpedaling...

>

> now most of those same people are saying that they are waiting for SP1 to

> save them... LOL

>

>

>

>

>

>

I liked it at first, but as time goes on, I'm getting less tolerant. It

seems that the OS keeps morphing into a different animal, just about

every day or two. For example, I had an issue with my laptop from day

one with not dismissing a pop up message in the 7 seconds that its

supposed to. My wife's vista laptop would fade away the same message in

7 seconds, as it was supposed to do. Now, after a number of updates

from MS, the same message box remains on screen on her laptop (its a

notification that a mapped drive is unavailable, and shows up at boot

time in the notification area). Also, her IE7 just started halting

(this week) with the "stopped working" error. I did some research and

first tried turning off Protected Mode. That didn't help. SO I figured

maybe its an add-on. I removed the Norton Confidential browser, "show

norton tool bar", and also disabled the Phishing Filter. That fixed

it. I re-enabled Protected Mode, and it still works. I think later

today I'll revisit the settings to find specifically what is at fault,

Norton IS enabled on my laptop and I have no issues with IE7.

 

I've installed the so-called Compatibility and Performance updates, yet

see NO improvement in any function. File transfer times are identical to

pre-update. Boot times suck. The progress bar at boot up runs 31

times. The only boot or shutdown process that seems reasonably speedy

is going into sleep mode. I hope SP1 really does improve performance.

I'm afraid it won't because I've seen reports that SP1 contains the C&P

updates and that might be MS's only files for "improving" performance.

IF that's the case, there are gonna be millions of disappointed Vista users.

 

The indexer has been a joke. I posted a week or so back about searches

returning nonsensical results, so I rebuilt the index and that cleared

up, BUT rebuilding didn't fix the fact that only 768 files were ever

indexed (after 2 weeks). Files in indexed locations are ignored by the

index, so I finally turned it off. Now that it's off, I can find a file

in the blink of an eye, unless the search is across the entire C: drive.

 

Dave

here@home.again wrote:

> "vista terminal ator" challenged...

>

>> I remember when vista first came out people were saying how great it was..

>> then slowly but steadily they started backpedaling...

>>

>> now most of those same people are saying that they are waiting for SP1 to

>> save them... LOL

>>

>>

>>

> Sure, I still think it's a really good system for home users, but I told my

> boss we shouldn't jump into it, because what we have already is doing the

> job. Mainly, though, it's because most of my co-workers would choke on the

> learning curve, as they call it. -)

>

>

>

regarding a learning curve, I decided to stick with Office 2004. I

really don't like Office 2007 enough to want to learn how to use it, nor

to spend another $130 on it. I'm not a fan of The Ribbon.

 

Dave

"vista terminal ator" <-> wrote in message

news:46d6dc6d$1@newsgate.x-privat.org...

>I remember when vista first came out people were saying how great it was..

>then slowly but steadily they started backpedaling...

>

> now most of those same people are saying that they are waiting for SP1 to

> save them... LOL

 

I'm very happy with Vista. It's tough to go to my laptop that uses XP.

Works fine for me. And I use it to manage servers and 250+ workstations

running a mix of 98, 2000, and XP

 

"vista terminal ator" <-> wrote in message

news:46d6dc6d$1@newsgate.x-privat.org...

>I remember when vista first came out people were saying how great it was..

>then slowly but steadily they started backpedaling...

>

> now most of those same people are saying that they are waiting for SP1 to

> save them... LOL

>

>

>

>

>

vista terminal ator spewed out this bit, and i'll scatter a few bits myself:

> I remember when vista first came out people were saying how great it

> was.. then slowly but steadily they started backpedaling...

>

> now most of those same people are saying that they are waiting for

> SP1 to save them... LOL

 

Works fine for me, and has for quite sometime now.

 

--

Mhzjunkie

 

1 PRINT "Windows Vista ERROR"

GOTO 1

END

A great many.

However as is the nature of these newsgroups, you see problems and

other complaints similar as a hospital is full of sick people.

 

Windows Vista works fine on two of my older computers.

 

--

Jupiter Jones [MVP]

http://www3.telus.net/dandemar

http://www.dts-l.org

 

 

"vista terminal ator" <-> wrote in message

news:46d6dc6d$1@newsgate.x-privat.org...

>I remember when vista first came out people were saying how great it

>was.. then slowly but steadily they started backpedaling...

>

> now most of those same people are saying that they are waiting for

> SP1 to save them... LOL

"David" <david@invalid.com> wrote in message

news:ktWdnV7GrJMheUvbnZ2dnUVZ_gSdnZ2d@comcast.com...

> regarding a learning curve, I decided to stick with Office 2004. I really

> don't like Office 2007 enough to want to learn how to use it, nor to spend

> another $130 on it. I'm not a fan of The Ribbon.

 

If you're running Office 2004 you're running a Mac for a start. I'm not

surprised you don't fancy trying to install Office 2007 onto it.

 

As for the ribbon, meh... I like it myself but it IS going to require a lot

of re-training and will be frustrating while you're getting up to speed. I

don't think anyone can deny that and people who rely on MS Office for

business certainly shouldn't ignore that.

 

All I will say, and I know you've probably already done this, is that the

ribbon should be judged by using it, not by static screenshots.

I've had no major problems with Vista since I installed it on my desktop on

02/02/2007. I keep trying to break it, but it just keeps going & going....

So far, I like it better than XP.

And it works great on my wife's laptop. I installed hers as a dual boot, as

she hates change, but we've never booted into the original XP.

 

 

"vista terminal ator" <-> wrote in message

news:46d6dc6d$1@newsgate.x-privat.org...

>I remember when vista first came out people were saying how great it was..

>then slowly but steadily they started backpedaling...

>

> now most of those same people are saying that they are waiting for SP1 to

> save them... LOL

>

>

>

>

>

> All I will say, and I know you've probably already done this, is that the

> ribbon should be judged by using it, not by static screenshots.

>

>

>

Robert, I used it for a month. I still don't like it. :)

 

Dave

"David" <david@invalid.com> wrote in message

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>

>> All I will say, and I know you've probably already done this, is that the

>> ribbon should be judged by using it, not by static screenshots.

>>

>>

> Robert, I used it for a month. I still don't like it. :)

 

Fair enough :) Took me some time to get used to it, I admit, longer than a

month for sure.

 

I know a lot of people who blanked it on the basis of screenshots, and

whatever side of the "debate" you fall on about the ribbon I'm sure you'd

agree that you can't evaluate it from still pictures.

> However as is the nature of these newsgroups, you see problems and other

> complaints similar as a hospital is full of sick people.

 

Are you some sort of troll or something?

No you don't.. the majority of people with the problems cant even find their

way here... most people don't know what a newsgroup is,

 

from what I have seen this newsgroup is infested with people who like vista

for some perverted reason and are misguiding people to continue using it,

most often instead of saying that vista is a low quality product they go

around blaming the user to be incompetent... sounds familiar?

 

Im sure it does because You do that!!!!

 

 

 

"Jupiter Jones [MVP]" <jones_jupiter@hotnomail.com> wrote in message

news:%23Kjedsy6HHA.1188@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>A great many.

> However as is the nature of these newsgroups, you see problems and other

> complaints similar as a hospital is full of sick people.

>

> Windows Vista works fine on two of my older computers.

>

> --

> Jupiter Jones [MVP]

> http://www3.telus.net/dandemar

> http://www.dts-l.org

>

>

> "vista terminal ator" <-> wrote in message

> news:46d6dc6d$1@newsgate.x-privat.org...

>>I remember when vista first came out people were saying how great it was..

>>then slowly but steadily they started backpedaling...

>>

>> now most of those same people are saying that they are waiting for SP1 to

>> save them... LOL

>

>

> Fair enough :) Took me some time to get used to it, I admit, longer than a

> month for sure.

>

> I know a lot of people who blanked it on the basis of screenshots, and

> whatever side of the "debate" you fall on about the ribbon I'm sure you'd

> agree that you can't evaluate it from still pictures.

>

>

>

I agree and I gave it more than a fair trial. It's the first version of

Office that I have rejected for an earlier one, since Office was first

produced.

 

Dave

"for some perverted reason"

Some have made a little effort to learn how to use Windows Vista, just

as is necessary with almost any new product, not just technology.

Shame you consider learning as "perverted".

 

"Are you some sort of troll or something?"

Said by you after that other post that is nothing more than false

statements mad by a troll .

And you call me a troll as your posting is nothing but attacks.

Attacks and name calling, what those insecure in their position need

to do to prop up their position, you FAIL because we see right through

you FALSE statements.

 

--

Jupiter Jones [MVP]

http://www3.telus.net/dandemar

http://www.dts-l.org

 

 

"vista terminal ator" <-> wrote in message

news:46d733e0@newsgate.x-privat.org...

> Are you some sort of troll or something?

> No you don't.. the majority of people with the problems cant even

> find their way here... most people don't know what a newsgroup is,

>

> from what I have seen this newsgroup is infested with people who

> like vista for some perverted reason and are misguiding people to

> continue using it, most often instead of saying that vista is a low

> quality product they go around blaming the user to be incompetent...

> sounds familiar?

>

> Im sure it does because You do that!!!!

>

>

>

> "Jupiter Jones [MVP]" <jones_jupiter@hotnomail.com> wrote in message

> news:%23Kjedsy6HHA.1188@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>>A great many.

>> However as is the nature of these newsgroups, you see problems and

>> other complaints similar as a hospital is full of sick people.

>>

>> Windows Vista works fine on two of my older computers.

>>

>> --

>> Jupiter Jones [MVP]

>> http://www3.telus.net/dandemar

>> http://www.dts-l.org

>>

>>

>> "vista terminal ator" <-> wrote in message

>> news:46d6dc6d$1@newsgate.x-privat.org...

>>>I remember when vista first came out people were saying how great

>>>it was.. then slowly but steadily they started backpedaling...

>>>

>>> now most of those same people are saying that they are waiting for

>>> SP1 to save them... LOL

>>

>

>

Re: is there anyone left who likes vista? NOPE

 

I checked with everybody. Nobody likes Vista!

 

 

"vista terminal ator" <-> wrote in message

news:46d6dc6d$1@newsgate.x-privat.org...

>I remember when vista first came out people were saying how great it was..

>then slowly but steadily they started backpedaling...

>

> now most of those same people are saying that they are waiting for SP1 to

> save them... LOL

>

>

>

>

>

"Jupiter Jones [MVP]" <jones_jupiter@hotnomail.com> wrote in

news:OoJ7TT16HHA.3624@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl:

> Some have made a little effort to learn how to use Windows Vista, just

> as is necessary with almost any new product, not just technology.

 

So what exactly should be different between using an earlier version of

Windows and Vista that would require learning 'how' to use Vista?

Re: is there anyone left who likes vista? NOPE

 

Well you didn't check with me so I your wrong!

 

 

"Spanky daMonkey" wrote in message

news:OTjW7h16HHA.4660@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>I checked with everybody. Nobody likes Vista!

>

>

> "vista terminal ator" <-> wrote in message

> news:46d6dc6d$1@newsgate.x-privat.org...

>>I remember when vista first came out people were saying how great it was..

>>then slowly but steadily they started backpedaling...

>>

>> now most of those same people are saying that they are waiting for SP1 to

>> save them... LOL

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>

>

On Thu, 30 Aug 2007 13:41:08 -0400, Dave wrote:

 

> And it works great on my wife's laptop. I installed hers as a dual boot, as

> she hates change, but we've never booted into the original XP.

 

Hey, you could get a job writing cheesy advertising blurbs for AOL.

On Thu, 30 Aug 2007 16:26:22 -0600, "Jupiter Jones [MVP]"

<jones_jupiter@hotnomail.com> wrote:

>"for some perverted reason"

>Some have made a little effort to learn how to use Windows Vista, just

>as is necessary with almost any new product, not just technology.

>Shame you consider learning as "perverted".

 

You're starting to stink up the newsgroup again with your silly high

and mighty pontificating routine.

 

Point of observation: The less posts from MVPs, the less noise there

is in this newsgroup.

"So what exactly should be different between..."

If you have used Windows Vista you already know there are differences.

Like any product, not just technology, the differences need to be

learned if the maximum use is desired.

Only the user can decide what that user needs to learn for their

situation.

 

--

Jupiter Jones [MVP]

http://www3.telus.net/dandemar

http://www.dts-l.org

 

 

"DanS" <t.h.i.s.n.t.h.a.t@a.d.e.l.p.h.i.a.n.e.t> wrote in message

news:Xns999CC27D9B6B1thisnthatadelphianet@216.196.97.142...

> So what exactly should be different between using an earlier version

> of

> Windows and Vista that would require learning 'how' to use Vista?

Re: is there anyone left who likes vista? NOPE

 

"...checked with everybody..."

Obviously not!

 

--

Jupiter Jones [MVP]

http://www3.telus.net/dandemar

http://www.dts-l.org

 

 

"Spanky daMonkey" wrote in message

news:OTjW7h16HHA.4660@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>I checked with everybody. Nobody likes Vista!

Sorry about that.

 

I guess my secretary forgot to call you guys.

 

I thought we got everybody.

 

 

"Spanky daMonkey" wrote in message

news:OTjW7h16HHA.4660@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>I checked with everybody. Nobody likes Vista!

>

>

> "vista terminal ator" <-> wrote in message

> news:46d6dc6d$1@newsgate.x-privat.org...

>>I remember when vista first came out people were saying how great it was..

>>then slowly but steadily they started backpedaling...

>>

>> now most of those same people are saying that they are waiting for SP1 to

>> save them... LOL

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>

>

On Thu, 30 Aug 2007 18:01:22 -0500, DanS

<t.h.i.s.n.t.h.a.t@a.d.e.l.p.h.i.a.n.e.t> wrote:

>"Jupiter Jones [MVP]" <jones_jupiter@hotnomail.com> wrote in

>news:OoJ7TT16HHA.3624@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl:

>

>> Some have made a little effort to learn how to use Windows Vista, just

>> as is necessary with almost any new product, not just technology.

>

>So what exactly should be different between using an earlier version of

>Windows and Vista that would require learning 'how' to use Vista?

 

Good question. You learn how to use Windows once, then you've learned

Windows. Period. <wink>

 

It find it hilarious that MVPs and of course fanboys in particular try

to make a big deal about all that's to "learn" in Vista. Sure, some

things have changed, been moved, renamed, altered, hidden, replaced,

screwed-up. What else is new. Microsoft does that with every new

version of Windows.

Re: is there anyone left who likes vista? NOPE

 

On Thu, 30 Aug 2007 17:26:11 -0600, "Jupiter Jones [MVP]"

<jones_jupiter@hotnomail.com> wrote:

>"...checked with everybody..."

>Obviously not!

 

No worse then your constant claim most people have no problem with

Vista. How would you know?

 

Tell us right here, right now how you KNOW. You're simply spouting

your narrow opinion, a little birdie told you or your read it in some

tea leaves.