Alias wrote:

 

>

> Even MS said that one is too much (Did you miss that?). I guess even MS

> has more compassion than you do. The 12,000 affected users don't share

> your opinion that they are "insignificant".

 

He didn't say that did he? Those are your words and they're not true. He

says the total number was insignificant, not the affected users. Surly

you being an English major (you are right?) your reading comprehension

is better than that, right?

>

> Note, this happened on a Friday evening when most businesses are closed.

> Had this happened on a Tuesday, that number would be much higher.

 

Ya'think? Or maybe they would have had the "A" team at work and fixed it

immediately and the number would have been much lower.

>

> AND, it begs the question as to when the next snafu will happen.

 

I'm sure you're waiting with baited breath for that to happen, right?

 

This is

> the second time in less than a year.

 

Keep reporting back to us ok?

Frank

>

No, they are just the content according to you. If you don't like the

magazine, don't buy it.

 

Saucy

 

 

"Alias" <iamalias@shoesgmail.com> wrote in message

news:fbca46$deq$2@aioe.org...

> Saucy wrote:

>> In more advanced civilzation it's "innocent until proven guilty". So

>> until you can prove it ..

>>

>> Saucy

>

> Both WPA and WGA assume you are guilty of piracy until you prove

> otherwise.

>

> --

> Alias

> To email me, remove shoes

>

>>

>>

>> "Alias" <iamalias@shoesgmail.com> wrote in message

>> news:fbbcub$34b$3@aioe.org...

>>> Leythos wrote:

>>>> In article <uCxHim86HHA.5984@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl>, charlie@tames.net

>>>> says...

>>>>> Why do you always react with accusations of "Hate" like some mardy

>>>>> child who just had his ball stolen. Pathetic and childish, both. You

>>>>> have no logical argument, only accusations that at least in my case

>>>>> are nothing more than lies.

>>>>

>>>> Keep trying - you're the one suggesting that MS makes you feel like a

>>>> thief and pirate.... All you're doing is spreading hate that you feel.

>>>>

>>>

>>> The fact that you're guilty until you prove otherwise over and over

>>> again makes you feel like what?

>>>

>>> --

>>> Alias

>>> To email me, remove shoes

>>

>

You use Windows, eh? That's rich, the Ubuntu advocate runs Windows.

 

Saucy

Saucy wrote:

> You use Windows, eh? That's rich, the Ubuntu advocate runs Windows.

> Saucy

 

It's an example of his logic, or lack thereof...lol!

Frank

Alias wrote:

> Saucy wrote:

>

>> In more advanced civilzation it's "innocent until proven guilty". So

>> until you can prove it ..

>>

>> Saucy

>

>

> Both WPA and WGA assume you are guilty of piracy until you prove otherwise.

>

Really, where does it say that?

Frank

Alias wrote:

> Frank wrote:

>

>> Alias wrote:

>>

>>>>

>>>

>>> The fact that you're guilty until you prove otherwise over and over

>>> again makes you feel like what?

>>>

>> You know, I still get the idea that maybe you've got wants & warrants

>> out for your sorry ass in the good'o US of A. You can't use your real

>> name (or maybe you're ashamed of it?) and you feel like a thief all

>> the time according to your postings.

>> What is that all about? Are you a thief? I've never heard anyone else

>> except you say you feel like a thief concerning Windows.

>> I'm sure it's proly just a Freudian slip of sorts right?

>> You're not a thief right?

>> Just curious.

>> Frank

>

>

> Um, you're the one who continually brings up warrants and being wanted

> by the law. I'm sure it's proly just a Freudian slip of sorts right?

>

 

Afraid to answer the question? I live in America. I promise not to turn

you in, ok?

Frank

On Sat, 01 Sep 2007 12:34:31 -0700, Frank wrote:

> Alias wrote:

>

>> Saucy wrote:

>>

>>> In more advanced civilzation it's "innocent until proven guilty". So

>>> until you can prove it ..

>>>

>>> Saucy

>>

>>

>> Both WPA and WGA assume you are guilty of piracy until you prove otherwise.

>>

> Really, where does it say that?

 

Actually frank, they do. They have to, else they'd be rather ineffective

anti piracy measures.

 

I mean think about it. How good would an anti piracy measure be that

assumes that the software is legal? How would it then find out it is not?

 

The only way a system that assumes it is legal can find out that it isn't

is by contacting a 3rd party. If it can never contact said 3rd party,

which would be Microsoft in this case, it would always assume it is legal.

 

Such a system would be extremely easy to get around. Just block the

appropriate port on the firewall and that's it! Any average user out there

could do it and it wouldn't even require a crack.

 

Now in contrast, a system that assumes the software is illegal has to

contact the server in order to obtain the information that it isn't. In

this case, simple means such as blocking the firewall port it uses no

longer work. Quite the opposite, the firewall *can't* block it or else the

software will be considered illegal no matter what.

 

This is significantly more difficult to get around as now it actually

requires cracking the software itself. That is now way beyond the scope of

the average user out there.

 

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Stephan Rose wrote:

>>>

>>>Both WPA and WGA assume you are guilty of piracy until you prove otherwise.

>>>

>>

>>Really, where does it say that?

>

>

> Actually frank, they do.

 

Where is it written in the EULA or any other place that you are

considered to be illegally using Windows and that you're a thief until

you prove otherwise?

Now where does it say that.

Period!

 

They have to, else they'd be rather ineffective

> anti piracy measures.

>

> I mean think about it. How good would an anti piracy measure be that

> assumes that the software is legal?

 

Nah...that's not even good garage logic. The assumption is it's legal

until proved illegal.

Activation verifies legality or illegality.

You and alias may think or feel otherwise but factually, you're both wrong.

Sorry!

Frank

On Sat, 01 Sep 2007 15:58:11 -0700, Frank wrote:

> Stephan Rose wrote:

>

>>>>

>>>>Both WPA and WGA assume you are guilty of piracy until you prove otherwise.

>>>>

>>>

>>>Really, where does it say that?

>>

>>

>> Actually frank, they do.

>

> Where is it written in the EULA or any other place that you are

> considered to be illegally using Windows and that you're a thief until

> you prove otherwise?

> Now where does it say that.

> Period!

 

EULA has nothing to do with it.

>

> They have to, else they'd be rather ineffective

>> anti piracy measures.

>>

>> I mean think about it. How good would an anti piracy measure be that

>> assumes that the software is legal?

>

> Nah...that's not even good garage logic. The assumption is it's legal

> until proved illegal.

> Activation verifies legality or illegality.

> You and alias may think or feel otherwise but factually, you're both wrong.

 

If it was legal until proven illegal than you would not need to

activate. The *need* to activate means that it assumes the system is

illegal. Of course they don't write "You are a thief" or anything

equivalent on the screen. I never said that. Alias might say that, I don't

nor ever have.

 

That still doesn't change the fact that internally, the anti-piracy

measures *have* to assume the system is not legal. THEREFORE the

activation which checks *if* the system is legal and if so *activates* it.

But until it has been told that it is legal and is allowed to activate it,

it assumes the system is not legal and after the timeout expires denies

access to the system. Or are you now going to tell me that one can use

Vista for as long as they want without activating it? Proving that your

copy is legal is EVERYTHING that Activation is all about for crying out

loud.

 

How they display said information to the customer is frigging irrelevant.

 

Man, how difficult can that be to understand?

 

And btw Frank, I've quite honestly forgotten more about anti-piracy

measures than you will likely ever know. Remember what I do for a living,

which is writing Software. I've implemented plenty of anti piracy measures

for other software which work very similar to how Vista's WGA works.

 

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On Sat, 01 Sep 2007 15:58:11 -0700, Frank <fb@nospan.crm> wrote:

>Stephan Rose wrote:

>

>>>>

>>>>Both WPA and WGA assume you are guilty of piracy until you prove otherwise.

>>>>

>>>

>>>Really, where does it say that?

>>

>>

>> Actually frank, they do.

>

>Where is it written in the EULA or any other place that you are

>considered to be illegally using Windows and that you're a thief until

>you prove otherwise?

>Now where does it say that.

>Period!

 

Only Frank is stupid enough to not understand the impact of Microsoft

foolishly marking legitimate copies of Vista as counterfeit resulting

in pissing off at least thousands of customers. Human error, just

stupidity, doesn't matter. Watershed event that gave Microsoft a black

eye.

>

> They have to, else they'd be rather ineffective

>> anti piracy measures.

>>

>> I mean think about it. How good would an anti piracy measure be that

>> assumes that the software is legal?

>

>Nah...that's not even good garage logic. The assumption is it's legal

>until proved illegal.

 

You're just a world class idiot Frank. If Microsoft assumes the

install was "legal" please tell why they marked ***** copies as

counterfeit last weekend. Of course I don't expect any rational answer

from a babbling baboon like you Frank. It's beyond you.

>Activation verifies legality or illegality.

 

Unless some stupid Microsoft computer marks it illegal when it is

legal.

>You and alias may think or feel otherwise but factually, you're both wrong.

>Sorry!

 

You're nothing but a fu*king idiot Frank. You'll never be anything

else. I pity you.

Saucy wrote:

> You use Windows, eh? That's rich, the Ubuntu advocate runs Windows.

> Saucy

 

LOL! I've been using windows since 92. If the gaming folks made their

games for Ubuntu, I would ditch Windows in a New York second.

 

--

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To email me, remove shoes

Frank wrote:

> Saucy wrote:

>

>> You use Windows, eh? That's rich, the Ubuntu advocate runs Windows.

>> Saucy

>

> It's an example of his logic, or lack thereof...lol!

> Frank

 

You're the one that's logic impaired, Frank. Just because I promote

Ubuntu doesn't mean that Windows has no uses at all.

 

--

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To email me, remove shoes

Frank wrote:

> Alias wrote:

>

>> Frank wrote:

>>

>>> Alias wrote:

>>>

>>>>>

>>>>

>>>> The fact that you're guilty until you prove otherwise over and over

>>>> again makes you feel like what?

>>>>

>>> You know, I still get the idea that maybe you've got wants & warrants

>>> out for your sorry ass in the good'o US of A. You can't use your real

>>> name (or maybe you're ashamed of it?) and you feel like a thief all

>>> the time according to your postings.

>>> What is that all about? Are you a thief? I've never heard anyone else

>>> except you say you feel like a thief concerning Windows.

>>> I'm sure it's proly just a Freudian slip of sorts right?

>>> You're not a thief right?

>>> Just curious.

>>> Frank

>>

>>

>> Um, you're the one who continually brings up warrants and being wanted

>> by the law. I'm sure it's proly just a Freudian slip of sorts right?

>>

>

> Afraid to answer the question? I live in America. I promise not to turn

> you in, ok?

> Frank

 

So, you're wanted in some other country and are hiding in LA LA Land. I

have explained how it is impossible for me to be wanted but you,

conveniently, ignored those posts. Besides, if I were wanted by the USA

legal authorities, do you think I would be posting on Usenet?

 

--

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In article <jLednTroiMjKxUTb4p2dnAA@giganews.com>, nospam@spammer.com

says...

> On Sat, 01 Sep 2007 05:51:27 -0400, Leythos wrote:

>

> > In article <fb8noc$rbd$1@aioe.org>, iamalias@shoesgmail.com says...

> >> Leythos wrote:

> >> > In article <eXKO5u16HHA.1204@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl>, a@b.com says...

> >> >> And yes, I have used Ubuntu, quite a lot actually. I find it most amusing

> >> >> that the default installation is that it erases Windows and installs itself

> >> >> over.

> >> >

> >> > What's more amusing is that Alias keeps preaching Ubuntu as the solution

> >> > for the masses, but he keeps running XP for the same reason that other

> >> > people use Windows.

> >>

> >> I only use Windows for gaming and that's only because the people who

> >> make games don't make them for Ubuntu.

> >>

> >> >

> >> > If he really believe in his preachings to the masses he would have got

> >> > rid of all MS products and lived his message instead of being such a

> >> > hypocrite.

> >>

> >> With the exception of gaming, I *am* living my message and I'm not being

> >> hypocritical at all.

> >

> > No, you're telling lies, you keep preaching how Ubuntu is what people

> > need and that it's better than Windows, but you keep using Windows....

> >

> > You're exposed and a liar - If you're going to keep Windows, supporting

> > Microsoft, for any reason, then you don't need Ubuntu - Windows does all

> > that Ubuntu does, so there is no reason to have Ubuntu - there is no

> > reason to complicate things with having TWO O/S's two sets of

> > applications...

>

> Actually Windows doesn't do all that Ubuntu does. Windows is useless for

> one thing I am doing right now for example.

>

> Watching TV =)

 

Strange, TV cards are on the market, seems to work fine on many PC's

under windows.

> Can't play any video on the secondary output, only get a black window.

> Tested this under both Vista and XP and it's a known problem not just

> specific to me.

 

Try another card.

> Oh and Windows does not have proper multi-screen multi-desktop support.

> The best it can do is either clone *one* desktop or extend *one* desktop.

> It can't actually have two separate desktops simultaneously on separate

> screens.

 

Strange, on a Quad Monitor system I find that I can't use multiple

desktops more/better than I can a single desktop spread across a 2X2

layout under windows.

> Oh and it doesn't have a decent file system. It is still restricted to

> mucking around with drive letters. This may not be that much of an issue

> to someone who only has one hard drive and one CD/DVD drive.

 

8 Drives, 2 DVDRW, 1 Floppy, not a problem, many mappend drives, many

remote connections not listed as drive letters....

> However if you're like me and have multipel hard drives and multiple DVD

> drives, drive letters start becoming a real pain in the ass. Not to

> mention if one has removable drive trays like I used to have on one

> system. The driver letter mess was just insane.

>

> I can't even begin to describe how much I love no longer needing to have

> drive letters when it comes to managing and accessing my drives in

> meaningful ways.

 

Not a problem on any of our systems, and you can't possibly have more

drives that we have in many of our systems, unless you're telling me you

have Quad 650W PSU's in that computer of yours...

 

--

 

Leythos

- Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum.

- Calling an illegal alien an "undocumented worker" is like calling a

drug dealer an "unlicensed pharmacist"

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On Sat, 01 Sep 2007 20:27:11 -0400, Leythos wrote:

> In article <jLednTroiMjKxUTb4p2dnAA@giganews.com>, nospam@spammer.com

> says...

>> On Sat, 01 Sep 2007 05:51:27 -0400, Leythos wrote:

>>

>> > In article <fb8noc$rbd$1@aioe.org>, iamalias@shoesgmail.com says...

>> >> Leythos wrote:

>> >> > In article <eXKO5u16HHA.1204@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl>, a@b.com says...

>> >> >> And yes, I have used Ubuntu, quite a lot actually. I find it most amusing

>> >> >> that the default installation is that it erases Windows and installs itself

>> >> >> over.

>> >> >

>> >> > What's more amusing is that Alias keeps preaching Ubuntu as the solution

>> >> > for the masses, but he keeps running XP for the same reason that other

>> >> > people use Windows.

>> >>

>> >> I only use Windows for gaming and that's only because the people who

>> >> make games don't make them for Ubuntu.

>> >>

>> >> >

>> >> > If he really believe in his preachings to the masses he would have got

>> >> > rid of all MS products and lived his message instead of being such a

>> >> > hypocrite.

>> >>

>> >> With the exception of gaming, I *am* living my message and I'm not being

>> >> hypocritical at all.

>> >

>> > No, you're telling lies, you keep preaching how Ubuntu is what people

>> > need and that it's better than Windows, but you keep using Windows....

>> >

>> > You're exposed and a liar - If you're going to keep Windows, supporting

>> > Microsoft, for any reason, then you don't need Ubuntu - Windows does all

>> > that Ubuntu does, so there is no reason to have Ubuntu - there is no

>> > reason to complicate things with having TWO O/S's two sets of

>> > applications...

>>

>> Actually Windows doesn't do all that Ubuntu does. Windows is useless for

>> one thing I am doing right now for example.

>>

>> Watching TV =)

>

> Strange, TV cards are on the market, seems to work fine on many PC's

> under windows.

 

Not referring to TV cards. I usually just watch DVDs...on my TV! =)

>

>> Can't play any video on the secondary output, only get a black window.

>> Tested this under both Vista and XP and it's a known problem not just

>> specific to me.

>

> Try another card.

 

Care to elaborate as to what I could upgrade to from a factory

overclocked 8800 GTX?

>

>> Oh and Windows does not have proper multi-screen multi-desktop support.

>> The best it can do is either clone *one* desktop or extend *one* desktop.

>> It can't actually have two separate desktops simultaneously on separate

>> screens.

>

> Strange, on a Quad Monitor system I find that I can't use multiple

> desktops more/better than I can a single desktop spread across a 2X2

> layout under windows.

 

Depends on what you're trying to do. For some things, a single spread out

monitor is better. For other things, separate desktops with their own

boundaries are better. In my case, even back when I could watch TV under

windows (it worked until nVidia dropped full screen video overlay

support), having an extended desktop plain simply sucked.

 

It gave me loads problems with full screen games that wouldn't recognize

the proper screen boundary. It was a royal pain. I'd often turn my dual

monitors off before playing a game.

 

Having two distinctly separate desktops, one for my apps, one for my TV,

would have eliminated that problem.

>

>> Oh and it doesn't have a decent file system. It is still restricted to

>> mucking around with drive letters. This may not be that much of an issue

>> to someone who only has one hard drive and one CD/DVD drive.

>

> 8 Drives, 2 DVDRW, 1 Floppy, not a problem, many mappend drives, many

> remote connections not listed as drive letters....

>

>> However if you're like me and have multipel hard drives and multiple DVD

>> drives, drive letters start becoming a real pain in the ass. Not to

>> mention if one has removable drive trays like I used to have on one

>> system. The driver letter mess was just insane.

>>

>> I can't even begin to describe how much I love no longer needing to have

>> drive letters when it comes to managing and accessing my drives in

>> meaningful ways.

>

> Not a problem on any of our systems, and you can't possibly have more

> drives that we have in many of our systems, unless you're telling me you

> have Quad 650W PSU's in that computer of yours...

 

Well just because *you* don't find it annoying does not mean I don't. I

personally find the sea of drive letters under windows annoying and a pain

to deal with. Sure I've done it for years...but that doesn't mean there

aren't better ways, which I am using now. Matter of fact, the mounting

system is intelligent enough to not even care what order the drives are

connected in.

 

--

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In article <Je2dnWDLoIbSmEfbnZ2dnUVZ8s_inZ2d@giganews.com>,

nospam@spammer.com says...

> On Sat, 01 Sep 2007 20:27:11 -0400, Leythos wrote:

> > Strange, TV cards are on the market, seems to work fine on many PC's

> > under windows.

>

> Not referring to TV cards. I usually just watch DVDs...on my TV! =)

>

> >

> >> Can't play any video on the secondary output, only get a black window.

> >> Tested this under both Vista and XP and it's a known problem not just

> >> specific to me.

> >

> > Try another card.

>

> Care to elaborate as to what I could upgrade to from a factory

> overclocked 8800 GTX?

 

Nope, I just see people watching them on their Windows PC's all the

time, never asked what - I would never want to watch TV on a PC.

> >> Oh and Windows does not have proper multi-screen multi-desktop support.

> >> The best it can do is either clone *one* desktop or extend *one* desktop.

> >> It can't actually have two separate desktops simultaneously on separate

> >> screens.

> >

> > Strange, on a Quad Monitor system I find that I can't use multiple

> > desktops more/better than I can a single desktop spread across a 2X2

> > layout under windows.

>

> Depends on what you're trying to do. For some things, a single spread out

> monitor is better. For other things, separate desktops with their own

> boundaries are better. In my case, even back when I could watch TV under

> windows (it worked until nVidia dropped full screen video overlay

> support), having an extended desktop plain simply sucked.

>

> It gave me loads problems with full screen games that wouldn't recognize

> the proper screen boundary. It was a royal pain. I'd often turn my dual

> monitors off before playing a game.

 

Strange, each FS game I play has no issues running in a single window, I

can even keep outlook open and watching for emails while I play

GuildWars.

> Having two distinctly separate desktops, one for my apps, one for my TV,

> would have eliminated that problem.

 

As would a different card or better drivers.

> >> Oh and it doesn't have a decent file system. It is still restricted to

> >> mucking around with drive letters. This may not be that much of an issue

> >> to someone who only has one hard drive and one CD/DVD drive.

> >

> > 8 Drives, 2 DVDRW, 1 Floppy, not a problem, many mappend drives, many

> > remote connections not listed as drive letters....

> >

> >> However if you're like me and have multipel hard drives and multiple DVD

> >> drives, drive letters start becoming a real pain in the ass. Not to

> >> mention if one has removable drive trays like I used to have on one

> >> system. The driver letter mess was just insane.

> >>

> >> I can't even begin to describe how much I love no longer needing to have

> >> drive letters when it comes to managing and accessing my drives in

> >> meaningful ways.

> >

> > Not a problem on any of our systems, and you can't possibly have more

> > drives that we have in many of our systems, unless you're telling me you

> > have Quad 650W PSU's in that computer of yours...

>

> Well just because *you* don't find it annoying does not mean I don't. I

> personally find the sea of drive letters under windows annoying and a pain

> to deal with. Sure I've done it for years...but that doesn't mean there

> aren't better ways, which I am using now. Matter of fact, the mounting

> system is intelligent enough to not even care what order the drives are

> connected in.

 

I happen to like drive letters or mapping to shares, so it doesn't

bother me.

 

--

 

Leythos

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- Calling an illegal alien an "undocumented worker" is like calling a

drug dealer an "unlicensed pharmacist"

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On Sat, 01 Sep 2007 20:49:30 -0400, Leythos wrote:

> In article <Je2dnWDLoIbSmEfbnZ2dnUVZ8s_inZ2d@giganews.com>,

> nospam@spammer.com says...

>> On Sat, 01 Sep 2007 20:27:11 -0400, Leythos wrote:

>> > Strange, TV cards are on the market, seems to work fine on many PC's

>> > under windows.

>>

>> Not referring to TV cards. I usually just watch DVDs...on my TV! =)

>>

>> >

>> >> Can't play any video on the secondary output, only get a black window.

>> >> Tested this under both Vista and XP and it's a known problem not just

>> >> specific to me.

>> >

>> > Try another card.

>>

>> Care to elaborate as to what I could upgrade to from a factory

>> overclocked 8800 GTX?

>

> Nope, I just see people watching them on their Windows PC's all the

> time, never asked what - I would never want to watch TV on a PC.

 

Well I don't watch it on my PC per se. My PC is my DVD player, but my

second DVI out goes to a 48 inch Plasma TV. =)

>

>> >> Oh and Windows does not have proper multi-screen multi-desktop support.

>> >> The best it can do is either clone *one* desktop or extend *one* desktop.

>> >> It can't actually have two separate desktops simultaneously on separate

>> >> screens.

>> >

>> > Strange, on a Quad Monitor system I find that I can't use multiple

>> > desktops more/better than I can a single desktop spread across a 2X2

>> > layout under windows.

>>

>> Depends on what you're trying to do. For some things, a single spread out

>> monitor is better. For other things, separate desktops with their own

>> boundaries are better. In my case, even back when I could watch TV under

>> windows (it worked until nVidia dropped full screen video overlay

>> support), having an extended desktop plain simply sucked.

>>

>> It gave me loads problems with full screen games that wouldn't recognize

>> the proper screen boundary. It was a royal pain. I'd often turn my dual

>> monitors off before playing a game.

>

> Strange, each FS game I play has no issues running in a single window, I

> can even keep outlook open and watching for emails while I play

> GuildWars.

 

Some games don't have issues, some games do. FPS games probably don't have

the problem because they use mouse delta for aiming via DirectInput. That

is mouse cursor position independent.

 

The games that generally have the problems are games that actually use a

mouse cursor such as MMORPG's, Supreme Commander, etc. Since games like

that care about an absolute position far more than they care about

lightning fast mouse deltas, they just use the standard windows mouse

events. It'd make little sense for games like that to re-invent the wheel

and implement their own absolute positioning via the DirectInput interface.

 

So when you have your desktop extended on multiple monitors, the windows

mouse events obviously cover all extends causing the mouse cursor in-game

to go off the screen.

>

>> Having two distinctly separate desktops, one for my apps, one for my TV,

>> would have eliminated that problem.

>

> As would a different card or better drivers.

 

More than running nVidia's top of the line card with the most recent

drivers is a little difficult...and older drivers aren't an option as they

don't support my card anymore. And no, I don't really care much for ATI. =)

>

>> >> Oh and it doesn't have a decent file system. It is still restricted to

>> >> mucking around with drive letters. This may not be that much of an issue

>> >> to someone who only has one hard drive and one CD/DVD drive.

>> >

>> > 8 Drives, 2 DVDRW, 1 Floppy, not a problem, many mappend drives, many

>> > remote connections not listed as drive letters....

>> >

>> >> However if you're like me and have multipel hard drives and multiple DVD

>> >> drives, drive letters start becoming a real pain in the ass. Not to

>> >> mention if one has removable drive trays like I used to have on one

>> >> system. The driver letter mess was just insane.

>> >>

>> >> I can't even begin to describe how much I love no longer needing to have

>> >> drive letters when it comes to managing and accessing my drives in

>> >> meaningful ways.

>> >

>> > Not a problem on any of our systems, and you can't possibly have more

>> > drives that we have in many of our systems, unless you're telling me you

>> > have Quad 650W PSU's in that computer of yours...

>>

>> Well just because *you* don't find it annoying does not mean I don't. I

>> personally find the sea of drive letters under windows annoying and a pain

>> to deal with. Sure I've done it for years...but that doesn't mean there

>> aren't better ways, which I am using now. Matter of fact, the mounting

>> system is intelligent enough to not even care what order the drives are

>> connected in.

>

> I happen to like drive letters or mapping to shares, so it doesn't

> bother me.

 

That's why we are all different with our own likes and dislikes. =)

 

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Leythos wrote:

> In article <fb8noc$rbd$1@aioe.org>, iamalias@shoesgmail.com says...

>> Leythos wrote:

>>> In article <eXKO5u16HHA.1204@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl>, a@b.com says...

>>>> And yes, I have used Ubuntu, quite a lot actually. I find it most amusing

>>>> that the default installation is that it erases Windows and installs itself

>>>> over.

>>> What's more amusing is that Alias keeps preaching Ubuntu as the solution

>>> for the masses, but he keeps running XP for the same reason that other

>>> people use Windows.

>> I only use Windows for gaming and that's only because the people who

>> make games don't make them for Ubuntu.

>>

>>> If he really believe in his preachings to the masses he would have got

>>> rid of all MS products and lived his message instead of being such a

>>> hypocrite.

>> With the exception of gaming, I *am* living my message and I'm not being

>> hypocritical at all.

>

> No, you're telling lies, you keep preaching how Ubuntu is what people

> need and that it's better than Windows, but you keep using Windows....

>

> You're exposed and a liar - If you're going to keep Windows, supporting

> Microsoft, for any reason, then you don't need Ubuntu - Windows does all

> that Ubuntu does, so there is no reason to have Ubuntu - there is no

> reason to complicate things with having TWO O/S's two sets of

> applications...

 

Windows does not do all Ubuntu does, not in some cases. For example, I

was able to purchase a $300 Dell server with No OS, load linux, and run

apache off of it, sendmail, samba, and all of my other server type

applications while spending only the money for the hardware as opposed

to spending all of the other money that it would cost to do it on

windows software.

>

> You're living a lie and not being honest with people.

>

> If you said "Ubuntu is a good platform for people that don't need

> Windows, people that will never need to play Windows based games, people

> that will never need to work with Microsoft based document formats other

> than simple formatting, that will never need support from MOST people

> they come across" then I would say, yes, Ubuntu is good for them.

>

 

 

 

 

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Leythos wrote:

> In article <uCxHim86HHA.5984@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl>, charlie@tames.net

> says...

>> Why do you always react with accusations of "Hate" like some mardy child

>> who just had his ball stolen. Pathetic and childish, both. You have no

>> logical argument, only accusations that at least in my case are nothing

>> more than lies.

>

> Keep trying - you're the one suggesting that MS makes you feel like a

> thief and pirate.... All you're doing is spreading hate that you feel.

>

 

He's not by far the only one who feels this 'hate' from MS.

 

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creativity and innovation that is a hallmark of this country. Consumer

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"The poster formerly known as the poster formerly known as Nina DiBoy"

<nonee@none.not> wrote in message news:fbd8v0$3ht$1@aioe.org...

> Windows does not do all Ubuntu does, not in some cases. For example, I

> was able to purchase a $300 Dell server with No OS, load linux, and run

> apache off of it, sendmail, samba, and all of my other server type

> applications while spending only the money for the hardware as opposed to

> spending all of the other money that it would cost to do it on windows

> software.

 

What is all this "other money it would cost to do it on windows"?

The same free applications run on windows to do your mail (not sendmail, I

hope <spits>), etc. as those that are on linux so there is no extra cost if

you have a windows system.

In article <fbd8v0$3ht$1@aioe.org>, nonee@none.not says...

> Leythos wrote:

> > In article <fb8noc$rbd$1@aioe.org>, iamalias@shoesgmail.com says...

> >> Leythos wrote:

> >>> In article <eXKO5u16HHA.1204@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl>, a@b.com says...

> >>>> And yes, I have used Ubuntu, quite a lot actually. I find it most amusing

> >>>> that the default installation is that it erases Windows and installs itself

> >>>> over.

> >>> What's more amusing is that Alias keeps preaching Ubuntu as the solution

> >>> for the masses, but he keeps running XP for the same reason that other

> >>> people use Windows.

> >> I only use Windows for gaming and that's only because the people who

> >> make games don't make them for Ubuntu.

> >>

> >>> If he really believe in his preachings to the masses he would have got

> >>> rid of all MS products and lived his message instead of being such a

> >>> hypocrite.

> >> With the exception of gaming, I *am* living my message and I'm not being

> >> hypocritical at all.

> >

> > No, you're telling lies, you keep preaching how Ubuntu is what people

> > need and that it's better than Windows, but you keep using Windows....

> >

> > You're exposed and a liar - If you're going to keep Windows, supporting

> > Microsoft, for any reason, then you don't need Ubuntu - Windows does all

> > that Ubuntu does, so there is no reason to have Ubuntu - there is no

> > reason to complicate things with having TWO O/S's two sets of

> > applications...

>

> Windows does not do all Ubuntu does, not in some cases. For example, I

> was able to purchase a $300 Dell server with No OS, load linux, and run

> apache off of it, sendmail, samba, and all of my other server type

> applications while spending only the money for the hardware as opposed

> to spending all of the other money that it would cost to do it on

> windows software.

 

Ubuntu doesn't do all of that either, it's ADDED to the distro, same for

Windows, I can add all of that to my Windows machine for free also.

 

Why have Ubuntu if you're going to have Windows for other things -

that's the point.

 

Alias claimed that Ubuntu was the solution, but he still has Windows to

do things that Ubuntu won't do. Sounds like he's not living the truth he

preaches.

 

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In article <fbd97k$4eh$1@aioe.org>, nonee@none.not says...

> Leythos wrote:

> > In article <uCxHim86HHA.5984@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl>, charlie@tames.net

> > says...

> >> Why do you always react with accusations of "Hate" like some mardy child

> >> who just had his ball stolen. Pathetic and childish, both. You have no

> >> logical argument, only accusations that at least in my case are nothing

> >> more than lies.

> >

> > Keep trying - you're the one suggesting that MS makes you feel like a

> > thief and pirate.... All you're doing is spreading hate that you feel.

> >

>

> He's not by far the only one who feels this 'hate' from MS.

 

Dude, it's he that has the Hate, not MS.

 

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- Calling an illegal alien an "undocumented worker" is like calling a

drug dealer an "unlicensed pharmacist"

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Leythos wrote:

> In article <fbd8v0$3ht$1@aioe.org>, nonee@none.not says...

>> Leythos wrote:

>>> In article <fb8noc$rbd$1@aioe.org>, iamalias@shoesgmail.com says...

>>>> Leythos wrote:

>>>>> In article <eXKO5u16HHA.1204@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl>, a@b.com says...

>>>>>> And yes, I have used Ubuntu, quite a lot actually. I find it most amusing

>>>>>> that the default installation is that it erases Windows and installs itself

>>>>>> over.

>>>>> What's more amusing is that Alias keeps preaching Ubuntu as the solution

>>>>> for the masses, but he keeps running XP for the same reason that other

>>>>> people use Windows.

>>>> I only use Windows for gaming and that's only because the people who

>>>> make games don't make them for Ubuntu.

>>>>

>>>>> If he really believe in his preachings to the masses he would have got

>>>>> rid of all MS products and lived his message instead of being such a

>>>>> hypocrite.

>>>> With the exception of gaming, I *am* living my message and I'm not being

>>>> hypocritical at all.

>>> No, you're telling lies, you keep preaching how Ubuntu is what people

>>> need and that it's better than Windows, but you keep using Windows....

>>>

>>> You're exposed and a liar - If you're going to keep Windows, supporting

>>> Microsoft, for any reason, then you don't need Ubuntu - Windows does all

>>> that Ubuntu does, so there is no reason to have Ubuntu - there is no

>>> reason to complicate things with having TWO O/S's two sets of

>>> applications...

>> Windows does not do all Ubuntu does, not in some cases. For example, I

>> was able to purchase a $300 Dell server with No OS, load linux, and run

>> apache off of it, sendmail, samba, and all of my other server type

>> applications while spending only the money for the hardware as opposed

>> to spending all of the other money that it would cost to do it on

>> windows software.

>

> Ubuntu doesn't do all of that either, it's ADDED to the distro, same for

> Windows, I can add all of that to my Windows machine for free also.

>

> Why have Ubuntu if you're going to have Windows for other things -

> that's the point.

>

> Alias claimed that Ubuntu was the solution, but he still has Windows to

> do things that Ubuntu won't do. Sounds like he's not living the truth he

> preaches.

>

 

Only one thing: gaming and that is the fault of the game makers, not

Ubuntu. Your reaching for straws (again).

 

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Leythos wrote:

> In article <fbd97k$4eh$1@aioe.org>, nonee@none.not says...

>> Leythos wrote:

>>> In article <uCxHim86HHA.5984@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl>, charlie@tames.net

>>> says...

>>>> Why do you always react with accusations of "Hate" like some mardy child

>>>> who just had his ball stolen. Pathetic and childish, both. You have no

>>>> logical argument, only accusations that at least in my case are nothing

>>>> more than lies.

>>> Keep trying - you're the one suggesting that MS makes you feel like a

>>> thief and pirate.... All you're doing is spreading hate that you feel.

>>>

>> He's not by far the only one who feels this 'hate' from MS.

>

> Dude, it's he that has the Hate, not MS.

>

 

Assuming all your paying customers to be running pirated copies of

Windows until they prove otherwise only shows the disdain that MS holds

for their paying customers. The hate is squarely on MS' shoulders.

 

I have said this before and I will say it again: MS made BILLIONS with

DRM free Windows. Most people are honest and will buy Windows, otherwise

MS wouldn't have made BILLIONS with pre-XP Windows.

 

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In article <fbe7vd$i20$1@aioe.org>, iamalias@shoesgmail.com says...

> Leythos wrote:

> > In article <fbd97k$4eh$1@aioe.org>, nonee@none.not says...

> >> Leythos wrote:

> >>> In article <uCxHim86HHA.5984@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl>, charlie@tames.net

> >>> says...

> >>>> Why do you always react with accusations of "Hate" like some mardy child

> >>>> who just had his ball stolen. Pathetic and childish, both. You have no

> >>>> logical argument, only accusations that at least in my case are nothing

> >>>> more than lies.

> >>> Keep trying - you're the one suggesting that MS makes you feel like a

> >>> thief and pirate.... All you're doing is spreading hate that you feel.

> >>>

> >> He's not by far the only one who feels this 'hate' from MS.

> >

> > Dude, it's he that has the Hate, not MS.

> >

>

> Assuming all your paying customers to be running pirated copies of

> Windows until they prove otherwise only shows the disdain that MS holds

> for their paying customers. The hate is squarely on MS' shoulders.

 

No, the hate is on your shoulders and those of the zealots of you that

don't believe in a company protecting ITS PRODUCT.

 

Fact is that not one single customer, not one single person I know, not

even myself, feel that being asked to validate is an issue, not a

problem, nothing, it's a fact of piracy protection and it works.

> I have said this before and I will say it again: MS made BILLIONS with

> DRM free Windows. Most people are honest and will buy Windows, otherwise

> MS wouldn't have made BILLIONS with pre-XP Windows.

 

And that doesn't change a thing - Windows is still a great product, runs

more anything than Ubuntu, and you even continue to use it and you even

have Vista now - why means that you are exposed as a Hypocrite and liar.

 

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Leythos

- Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum.

- Calling an illegal alien an "undocumented worker" is like calling a

drug dealer an "unlicensed pharmacist"

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