Jump to content

Guest, which answer was the most helpful?

If any of these replies answered your question, please take a moment to click the 'Mark as solution' button on the post with the best answer.
Marking posts as the solution will help other community members find answers to their questions quickly. Thank you for your help!

Featured Replies

People who run Ubuntu shouldn't be in these forums in the first place. They

need to find advocacy forums. My hunch is that Alias knows so little about

Linux that he'll probably get pwned in the Linux news groups. Using another

alias, he perhaps asks like a noob- How do I get my wireless to work.

 

We have a term for such persons in the English language- Losers. They are

not good at anything. Anything.

 

"Leythos" <void@nowhere.lan> wrote in message

news:MPG.214140fa125540669898a4@adfree.Usenet.com...

> In article <eXKO5u16HHA.1204@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl>, a@b.com says...

>> And yes, I have used Ubuntu, quite a lot actually. I find it most

>> amusing

>> that the default installation is that it erases Windows and installs

>> itself

>> over.

>

> What's more amusing is that Alias keeps preaching Ubuntu as the solution

> for the masses, but he keeps running XP for the same reason that other

> people use Windows.

>

> If he really believe in his preachings to the masses he would have got

> rid of all MS products and lived his message instead of being such a

> hypocrite.

>

> --

>

> Leythos

> - Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum.

> - Calling an illegal alien an "undocumented worker" is like calling a

> drug dealer an "unlicensed pharmacist"

> spam999free@rrohio.com (remove 999 for proper email address)

  • Replies 353
  • Views 3.9k
  • Created
  • Last Reply

PowerUser wrote:

> People who run Ubuntu shouldn't be in these forums in the first place.

 

New to Usenet?

> They

> need to find advocacy forums.

 

You need to stop telling people what to do.

> My hunch is that Alias knows so little about

> Linux that he'll probably get pwned in the Linux news groups. Using another

> alias, he perhaps asks like a noob- How do I get my wireless to work.

 

Your hunch is wrong. I use the same nick on the Ubuntu group.

>

> We have a term for such persons in the English language- Losers. They are

> not good at anything. Anything.

 

Does it make you feel like a real man to insult others?

 

--

Alias

To email me, remove shoes

>

> "Leythos" <void@nowhere.lan> wrote in message

> news:MPG.214140fa125540669898a4@adfree.Usenet.com...

>> In article <eXKO5u16HHA.1204@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl>, a@b.com says...

>>> And yes, I have used Ubuntu, quite a lot actually. I find it most

>>> amusing

>>> that the default installation is that it erases Windows and installs

>>> itself

>>> over.

>> What's more amusing is that Alias keeps preaching Ubuntu as the solution

>> for the masses, but he keeps running XP for the same reason that other

>> people use Windows.

>>

>> If he really believe in his preachings to the masses he would have got

>> rid of all MS products and lived his message instead of being such a

>> hypocrite.

>>

>> --

>>

>> Leythos

>> - Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum.

>> - Calling an illegal alien an "undocumented worker" is like calling a

>> drug dealer an "unlicensed pharmacist"

>> spam999free@rrohio.com (remove 999 for proper email address)

>

>

Forktongue ...Re: Another BETTER Ultimate on the block!

 

"Alias"

>

> My bad. I'll include the caveat from now on.

 

2. my bad

 

(n.) A combination of an apology and a dismissal.

Basically, saying "oh yeah, I did that, but I don't care".

 

3. my bad

 

A grammatically incorrect way of acknowledging (facetiously)

a wrongdoing.

 

Used very commonly by gangsta-wannabes and other sorts of

conforming posers,

 

"Jared! Did you drop the baby?"

"Oh. Ha. My bad!"

"WHAT THE F?!?!"

 

4. My bad 69 up, 39 down

 

Incredibly annoying phrase which people use when they do

something stupid or wrong

 

Kim: You just pulled my ex boyfriend

Lucie: My bad

 

6. my bad

 

A hipster way of admitting a mistake that sounds

like a two year old who pooped his pants.

 

Hip person: oops, my bad.

 

Two year old who pooped his pants: Oops, my bad.

 

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=my+bad

Re: Forktongue ...Re: Another BETTER Ultimate on the block!

 

Julian wrote:

> "Alias"

>>

>> My bad. I'll include the caveat from now on.

>

> 2. my bad

> (n.) A combination of an apology and a dismissal. Basically, saying "oh

> yeah, I did that, but I don't care".

>

> 3. my bad

> A grammatically incorrect way of acknowledging (facetiously) a wrongdoing.

>

> Used very commonly by gangsta-wannabes and other sorts of conforming

> posers,

> "Jared! Did you drop the baby?"

> "Oh. Ha. My bad!"

> "WHAT THE F?!?!"

>

> 4. My bad 69 up, 39 down

> Incredibly annoying phrase which people use when they do something

> stupid or wrong

>

> Kim: You just pulled my ex boyfriend

> Lucie: My bad

>

> 6. my bad

> A hipster way of admitting a mistake that sounds

> like a two year old who pooped his pants.

>

> Hip person: oops, my bad.

>

> Two year old who pooped his pants: Oops, my bad.

>

> http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=my+bad

 

Considering that I also said I would include the caveat, the meaning I

meant was "My mistake and I won't do it again".

 

Of course, the fact that you're semantically nit picking in a lame

attempt to discredit me reveals more about you than me.

 

--

Alias

To email me, remove shoes

dennis@home wrote:

>

> "Stephan Rose" <nospam@spammer.com> wrote in message

> news:VM6dnQMNIfLxzkrbRVnyigA@giganews.com...

>> On Thu, 30 Aug 2007 16:15:54 -0700, PowerUser wrote:

>>

>>> Not all applications can be installed that way. Some need to be

>>> built by

>>> unzipping tar files using a bunch of commands in the command line and

>>> building the installers. Also- Applications are rarely configured

>>> without

>>> tying in some shady command line MS to get them to do something that

>>> they

>>> should have just included in the GUI.

>>

>> Really?

>>

>> It is odd then that none of the applications I use need to be installed

>> from source (tar source archives & command line) nor need to be

>> configured

>> via the command line. I guess I must be doing something wrong...I can do

>> everything I need from the GUI...

>

> Why is it when a minor fault happens with windows it has to effect

> everyone and that anyone that says its didn't effect them is a liar..

>

> but..

>

> when something slightly bad happens to a Linux user it hasn't really

> happened to anyone and all Linux users can do it without a problem and

> the one that said he had the problem doesn't exist?

>

>>

>> I actually do use the command line, but only because for some things

>> it is

>> more efficient than a GUI could ever be and because I choose to. Not

>> because I have to.

>>

>> It is rare to find an app that is not in the repositories that can't be

>> installed via synaptic. It'd have to be something pretty obscure

>> matter of

>> fact to not be in the repositories.

>>

>>>

>>> And yes, I have used Ubuntu, quite a lot actually. I find it most

>>> amusing

>>> that the default installation is that it erases Windows and installs

>>> itself

>>> over.

>>

>> *shrug* That I honestly don't know as I always do manual partition set

>> ups

>> anyway. I would trust no OS installer to automatically know how I want it

>> to be installed, that includes Windows.

>

> Just as well it makes sure the newbie has made his windows recovery

> disks before wiping the recovery partition from the system... or not!

> Why do Linux users think Linux is ready for the average user? It shows

> they don't understand anything about computer users which is why windows

> is a success even though its not cheap and Linux is not very successful

> even though its free. Its the geeks again but they won't understand,

> they never do.

 

Obviously you are replying to Stephan but talking to someone else,

right? Or you are merely a liar.

Leythos wrote:

> In article <#FbsRH56HHA.2476@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl>, charlie@tames.net

> says...

>> Leythos wrote:

>>> In article <#k$J5116HHA.1212@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl>, charlie@tames.net

>>> says...

>>>> Leythos wrote:

>>>>> In article <fb63be$jad$1@aioe.org>, iamalias@shoesgmail.com says...

>>>>>> Show me a post of mine that is false

>>>>> Any post suggesting that Ubuntu can replace Windows XP or Vista for the

>>>>> same functions/uses, or that suggests that Open Office is a replacement

>>>>> for MS Office (2000, XP, 2003, 2007).....

>>>>>

>>>> Last week when Microsoft declared legal systems illegal you could have

>>>> replaced "Windows" with a housebrick. In the case of Vista a bloody

>>>> expensive housebrick. Until you develop the guts to criticise such

>>>> abuses of power you are nothing more than a shill. Certainly MS make

>>>> some very good products with lots of functions, however if the can

>>>> simply pull the plug with no warning what use is that?

>>> Got almost 3000 Windows XP systems running across the USA on multiple

>>> hardware platforms - not one system was caused any problem last week or

>>> before or this week... Seems that MS didn't have any impact on us, so

>>> they must not have declared many systems illegal.

>>

>> Well let's try and look at this logically, I know you'll have trouble

>> with that but I'll try anyway. There were numerous complaints in this

>> group wihch itself is a tiny minority of windows users, a fact that you

>> are normally willing enough to point to when you think it suits your

>> case. However it is reasonable that MS do not check every system on the

>> same day. So if they do it roughly equal they have 365.25 days every

>> year. Now, if there are only a million Windows machines in the world

>> subject to MS Spyware then that's about 2740 systems per day. So you go

>> check how many Windows systems there are in the world, you should know

>> because it's boasted about enough, and then go figure what that number

>> multiplied by 2740 equals and you have the number of pissed off

>> customers per day it was calling them thieves. Then go figure that the

>> checks take place more than once a year, probably 4 times a year and

>> multiply that number by 4 again. Then double it again for Friday and

>> Saturday.

>>

>> Guess you must be just lucky, eh?

>>

>> By contrast your assertion that just because it had no impact on you it

>> had none on others is completely illogical but typical of a "Microsoft

>> can't get it wrong" fanboy. Yet at the same time we have a top MS exec

>> trying to cover his ass by apologizing, so we're not wrong here, it DID

>> happen no matter how you'd like to pretend it didn't, and the more you

>> persist with the "Sac do no wrong" theory the more MS will lose in the

>> future.

>

> Actually, if you read my post without your bias, without your hate, you

> will se that I said that it must not have impacted many - I didn't say

> it didn't impact everyone. It certainly didn't impact our clients, all

> over the US and a couple small places outside the USA. As a matter of

> fact, with all of the people and IT groups we know, none of them even

> read about it until reading Usenet posts about it...

>

> Keep your zealotry going, you seem to be good at it.

 

 

 

 

Why do you always react with accusations of "Hate" like some mardy child

who just had his ball stolen. Pathetic and childish, both. You have no

logical argument, only accusations that at least in my case are nothing

more than lies.

 

 

 

>>> You see "Power" as one thing, I see it as another. I have problems with

>>> how MS does things, but I don't have ANY problem with licensing,

>>> activation, piracy testing, etc... It's not caused me any problems since

>>> they implemented it....

>>

>> Actually MS do have power, but maybe not as much as they think they do

>> and that is where they will err and suffer for it. Someone has to make

>> the point that they need to do better and stop alienating the very

>> people (like me) who have supported them for years.

>

> MS only has the power you give them. If you want to start wearing a

> foil/tin hat, that's your business.

 

 

 

Yep, don't like the truth so try shooting the messenger.

 

 

 

> You are alienated by your own choice - you are not forced to use

> anything MS produces. I've used MS products, Open Source, AIX, HPUX,

> CPU, DOS, etc... and never felt that I was being pressured or to feel

> like a thief from any of the vendors - it's their right to make the

> rules, it's your right to not use their products if you don't like their

> rules.

 

 

 

You claim it has never affected you so why would "You" feel accused of

theft? Please make up your mind whether you have the experience to argue

this point or not, you say you haven't but then argue anyway.

"Charlie Tame" <charlie@tames.net> wrote in message

news:%23lB8Vj86HHA.3624@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

> dennis@home wrote:

>> Just as well it makes sure the newbie has made his windows recovery disks

>> before wiping the recovery partition from the system... or not!

>> Why do Linux users think Linux is ready for the average user? It shows

>> they don't understand anything about computer users which is why windows

>> is a success even though its not cheap and Linux is not very successful

>> even though its free. Its the geeks again but they won't understand, they

>> never do.

>

> Obviously you are replying to Stephan but talking to someone else, right?

> Or you are merely a liar.

 

How is anything I said a lie?

Have you got a warped view of the world?

"Stephan Rose" <nospam@spammer.com> wrote in message

news:f-idnb_18_SsbkvbnZ2dneKdnZydnZ2d@giganews.com...

> On Thu, 30 Aug 2007 18:17:21 +0200, Alias wrote:

>

>

>> Drivers are the responsibility of the hardware manufacturer, both for

>> Windows and Linux. With a little research (very little), one can see

>> that it's better to have an nVidia graphics card than an ATI because

>> nVidia has decided to support Linux and ATI has not. One can only hope

>> that AMD, now that it has acquired ATI, will move in that direction.

>> Same thing holds true for Lexmark vs Epson and HP. Epson and HP support

>> Linux and Lexmark only partially.

>

> Huh? ATI always has always supported Linux...you can go on ATI's website

> and download linux drivers absolutely no problem.

>

> Only difference between ATI and nVidia is that ATI's drivers aren't as

> good, and that is the case in both Linux and Windows. ATI has always had a

> reputation for poor drivers, one of the reasons I have always used nVidia

> on any OS.

 

At one time I would have agreed but ATI got their game together when they

released the Catalyst drivers. Even before that, when the Radeon cards were

first introduced I think their drivers were pretty solid.

 

With Vista systems, I think that it is nVidia that is having the driver

problems more so than ATI.

Inline:

 

 

"Alias" <iamalias@shoesgmail.com.> wrote in message

news:ej1$cvk6HHA.5752@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

> Carey Frisch [MVP] wrote:

>> If you wish, I can post all the links to your

>> previous posts a few months ago where

>> you yourself were asking a lot of questions

>> about installing Linux and expressed some of the difficulties

>> you encountered.

>

> At first, I had questions as it was a new OS and those questions were

> answered and I no longer have them.

 

 

The truth comes out. So it's more than and hour to get Ububtu up and running

... there are issues one will have to get online and get help for.

 

>> Updates? There are now well over 200 updates for Linux distros after

>> the initial install.

>

> It took me less than an hour to install the last time I did it, including

> all the updates and programs. Installing XP on the same computer took a

> couple of days.

 

 

What? Windows Update downloads and installs all updates in minutes not

hours. I remember a download of updates for a RedHat system: just under 400

MB of updates. And to top it off the updater would fail. What a mess.

 

>>

>> I don't think a rational person is going to chuck

>> Windows Vista (which they already paid for)

>> and install an alternative operating system that

>> may not be compatible with Windows-based

>> applications they already have.

>

> I don't think a rational person would install Vista and have to

> continually prove to Redmond that they didn't steal it.

 

 

I have issues with the various Microsoft schemes, but only to some extent,

as some scheme is probably necessary. However, the reason Windows is so

pirated is because people want it. Linux can be priced at zero cents yet

they cannot give it away.

 

>> P.S. I assemble my own computers. However, I did purchase

>> recently a nice HP Pavilion (refurb) because many folks

>> also purchase HP PCs and visit the Vista newsgroups

>> asking questions regarding HP products. Also, it was quite

>> cost effective compared to purchasing the same components

>> individually.

>>

>> Can anyone today assemble a new PC with a modern ASUS MB,

>> AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual Core 3800+ CPU, 1GB RAM,

>> 250GB Seagate SATA II HD designed w/Perpendicular Recording,

>> DVD writer w/Light Scribe, 9 in 1 memory reader, sleek new

>> case, power supply, keyboard, mouse, Roxio DVD writing software

>> and a full OEM version of Windows Vista Premium, for $369.00?

>>

>> Compared to the P4 3.0GHz computer I assembled your years ago

>> and upgraded considerably for a total of $850, this new

>> HP performs exceptionally faster and is virtually silent while

>> in operation.

>>

>> I have now installed a second SATA II hard drive and dual-boot with

>> Windows Vista Ultimate. I also installed another 1GB RAM

>> and a dedicated ATI Radeon HD 2600 PRO 512MB video card.

>> This HP Pavilion has had absolutely zero issues with Windows

>> Vista and I have now stopped using my old PC w/Windows XP.

>>

>

> Glad you're happy with HP. The only cheap computers I see here have Vista

> Basic on them and, er, no thanks.

 

 

Well, there are cheap new computers to be had .. only the specs are a bit

low, comparatively. Here in Ottawa we can get cheap computers w/o operating

systems so it is just a matter of slapping on whatever I want.

 

> --

> Alias

> To email me, remove shoes

 

Saucy

In article <fb8o9j$spj$2@aioe.org>, iamalias@shoesgmail.com says...

> Stephan Rose wrote:

> > On Thu, 30 Aug 2007 22:01:36 -0400, Leythos wrote:

> >

> >> In article <#k$J5116HHA.1212@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl>, charlie@tames.net

> >> says...

> >>> Leythos wrote:

> >>>> In article <fb63be$jad$1@aioe.org>, iamalias@shoesgmail.com says...

> >>>>> Show me a post of mine that is false

> >>>> Any post suggesting that Ubuntu can replace Windows XP or Vista for the

> >>>> same functions/uses, or that suggests that Open Office is a replacement

> >>>> for MS Office (2000, XP, 2003, 2007).....

> >>>>

> >>>

> >>> Last week when Microsoft declared legal systems illegal you could have

> >>> replaced "Windows" with a housebrick. In the case of Vista a bloody

> >>> expensive housebrick. Until you develop the guts to criticise such

> >>> abuses of power you are nothing more than a shill. Certainly MS make

> >>> some very good products with lots of functions, however if the can

> >>> simply pull the plug with no warning what use is that?

> >> Got almost 3000 Windows XP systems running across the USA on multiple

> >> hardware platforms - not one system was caused any problem last week or

> >> before or this week... Seems that MS didn't have any impact on us, so

> >> they must not have declared many systems illegal.

> >

> > Wonderful and what relevance is that considering that this affected Vista

> > systems?

> >

>

> The snafu affected both XP and Vista users who tried to either activate

> or download a free program that requires WGA approval. To their credit,

> MS said that one user is too much. I guess they have more class than

> Leythos who thinks that 12,000, which is what MS says were affected, is

> insignificant.

 

12,000 users, considering how many there are, is insignificant in the

total number of things.

 

--

 

Leythos

- Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum.

- Calling an illegal alien an "undocumented worker" is like calling a

drug dealer an "unlicensed pharmacist"

spam999free@rrohio.com (remove 999 for proper email address)

Leythos wrote:

> In article <fb8o9j$spj$2@aioe.org>, iamalias@shoesgmail.com says...

>> Stephan Rose wrote:

>>> On Thu, 30 Aug 2007 22:01:36 -0400, Leythos wrote:

>>>

>>>> In article <#k$J5116HHA.1212@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl>, charlie@tames.net

>>>> says...

>>>>> Leythos wrote:

>>>>>> In article <fb63be$jad$1@aioe.org>, iamalias@shoesgmail.com says...

>>>>>>> Show me a post of mine that is false

>>>>>> Any post suggesting that Ubuntu can replace Windows XP or Vista for the

>>>>>> same functions/uses, or that suggests that Open Office is a replacement

>>>>>> for MS Office (2000, XP, 2003, 2007).....

>>>>>>

>>>>> Last week when Microsoft declared legal systems illegal you could have

>>>>> replaced "Windows" with a housebrick. In the case of Vista a bloody

>>>>> expensive housebrick. Until you develop the guts to criticise such

>>>>> abuses of power you are nothing more than a shill. Certainly MS make

>>>>> some very good products with lots of functions, however if the can

>>>>> simply pull the plug with no warning what use is that?

>>>> Got almost 3000 Windows XP systems running across the USA on multiple

>>>> hardware platforms - not one system was caused any problem last week or

>>>> before or this week... Seems that MS didn't have any impact on us, so

>>>> they must not have declared many systems illegal.

>>> Wonderful and what relevance is that considering that this affected Vista

>>> systems?

>>>

>> The snafu affected both XP and Vista users who tried to either activate

>> or download a free program that requires WGA approval. To their credit,

>> MS said that one user is too much. I guess they have more class than

>> Leythos who thinks that 12,000, which is what MS says were affected, is

>> insignificant.

>

> 12,000 users, considering how many there are, is insignificant in the

> total number of things.

>

 

Even MS said that one is too much (Did you miss that?). I guess even MS

has more compassion than you do. The 12,000 affected users don't share

your opinion that they are "insignificant".

 

Note, this happened on a Friday evening when most businesses are closed.

Had this happened on a Tuesday, that number would be much higher.

 

AND, it begs the question as to when the next snafu will happen. This is

the second time in less than a year.

 

--

Alias

To email me, remove shoes

In article <fb8noc$rbd$1@aioe.org>, iamalias@shoesgmail.com says...

> Leythos wrote:

> > In article <eXKO5u16HHA.1204@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl>, a@b.com says...

> >> And yes, I have used Ubuntu, quite a lot actually. I find it most amusing

> >> that the default installation is that it erases Windows and installs itself

> >> over.

> >

> > What's more amusing is that Alias keeps preaching Ubuntu as the solution

> > for the masses, but he keeps running XP for the same reason that other

> > people use Windows.

>

> I only use Windows for gaming and that's only because the people who

> make games don't make them for Ubuntu.

>

> >

> > If he really believe in his preachings to the masses he would have got

> > rid of all MS products and lived his message instead of being such a

> > hypocrite.

>

> With the exception of gaming, I *am* living my message and I'm not being

> hypocritical at all.

 

No, you're telling lies, you keep preaching how Ubuntu is what people

need and that it's better than Windows, but you keep using Windows....

 

You're exposed and a liar - If you're going to keep Windows, supporting

Microsoft, for any reason, then you don't need Ubuntu - Windows does all

that Ubuntu does, so there is no reason to have Ubuntu - there is no

reason to complicate things with having TWO O/S's two sets of

applications...

 

You're living a lie and not being honest with people.

 

If you said "Ubuntu is a good platform for people that don't need

Windows, people that will never need to play Windows based games, people

that will never need to work with Microsoft based document formats other

than simple formatting, that will never need support from MOST people

they come across" then I would say, yes, Ubuntu is good for them.

 

--

 

Leythos

- Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum.

- Calling an illegal alien an "undocumented worker" is like calling a

drug dealer an "unlicensed pharmacist"

spam999free@rrohio.com (remove 999 for proper email address)

In article <uCxHim86HHA.5984@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl>, charlie@tames.net

says...

> Why do you always react with accusations of "Hate" like some mardy child

> who just had his ball stolen. Pathetic and childish, both. You have no

> logical argument, only accusations that at least in my case are nothing

> more than lies.

 

Keep trying - you're the one suggesting that MS makes you feel like a

thief and pirate.... All you're doing is spreading hate that you feel.

 

--

 

Leythos

- Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum.

- Calling an illegal alien an "undocumented worker" is like calling a

drug dealer an "unlicensed pharmacist"

spam999free@rrohio.com (remove 999 for proper email address)

Leythos wrote:

> In article <fb8noc$rbd$1@aioe.org>, iamalias@shoesgmail.com says...

>> Leythos wrote:

>>> In article <eXKO5u16HHA.1204@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl>, a@b.com says...

>>>> And yes, I have used Ubuntu, quite a lot actually. I find it most amusing

>>>> that the default installation is that it erases Windows and installs itself

>>>> over.

>>> What's more amusing is that Alias keeps preaching Ubuntu as the solution

>>> for the masses, but he keeps running XP for the same reason that other

>>> people use Windows.

>> I only use Windows for gaming and that's only because the people who

>> make games don't make them for Ubuntu.

>>

>>> If he really believe in his preachings to the masses he would have got

>>> rid of all MS products and lived his message instead of being such a

>>> hypocrite.

>> With the exception of gaming, I *am* living my message and I'm not being

>> hypocritical at all.

>

> No, you're telling lies, you keep preaching how Ubuntu is what people

> need and that it's better than Windows, but you keep using Windows....

>

> You're exposed and a liar - If you're going to keep Windows, supporting

> Microsoft, for any reason, then you don't need Ubuntu - Windows does all

> that Ubuntu does, so there is no reason to have Ubuntu - there is no

> reason to complicate things with having TWO O/S's two sets of

> applications...

>

> You're living a lie and not being honest with people.

>

> If you said "Ubuntu is a good platform for people that don't need

> Windows, people that will never need to play Windows based games, people

> that will never need to work with Microsoft based document formats other

> than simple formatting, that will never need support from MOST people

> they come across" then I would say, yes, Ubuntu is good for them.

>

 

Are you always this confused? I own three copies of XP, one of Vista.

They are useful for gaming and gaming only as far as I am concerned. For

real work, safe surfing and a stable OS, I prefer Ubuntu. Nothing

hypocritical about that at all.

 

--

Alias

To email me, remove shoes

Leythos wrote:

> In article <uCxHim86HHA.5984@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl>, charlie@tames.net

> says...

>> Why do you always react with accusations of "Hate" like some mardy child

>> who just had his ball stolen. Pathetic and childish, both. You have no

>> logical argument, only accusations that at least in my case are nothing

>> more than lies.

>

> Keep trying - you're the one suggesting that MS makes you feel like a

> thief and pirate.... All you're doing is spreading hate that you feel.

>

 

The fact that you're guilty until you prove otherwise over and over

again makes you feel like what?

 

--

Alias

To email me, remove shoes

Leythos wrote:

> In article <fb8o9j$spj$2@aioe.org>, iamalias@shoesgmail.com says...

>> Stephan Rose wrote:

>>> On Thu, 30 Aug 2007 22:01:36 -0400, Leythos wrote:

>>>

>>>> In article <#k$J5116HHA.1212@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl>, charlie@tames.net

>>>> says...

>>>>> Leythos wrote:

>>>>>> In article <fb63be$jad$1@aioe.org>, iamalias@shoesgmail.com says...

>>>>>>> Show me a post of mine that is false

>>>>>> Any post suggesting that Ubuntu can replace Windows XP or Vista for the

>>>>>> same functions/uses, or that suggests that Open Office is a replacement

>>>>>> for MS Office (2000, XP, 2003, 2007).....

>>>>>>

>>>>> Last week when Microsoft declared legal systems illegal you could have

>>>>> replaced "Windows" with a housebrick. In the case of Vista a bloody

>>>>> expensive housebrick. Until you develop the guts to criticise such

>>>>> abuses of power you are nothing more than a shill. Certainly MS make

>>>>> some very good products with lots of functions, however if the can

>>>>> simply pull the plug with no warning what use is that?

>>>> Got almost 3000 Windows XP systems running across the USA on multiple

>>>> hardware platforms - not one system was caused any problem last week or

>>>> before or this week... Seems that MS didn't have any impact on us, so

>>>> they must not have declared many systems illegal.

>>> Wonderful and what relevance is that considering that this affected Vista

>>> systems?

>>>

>> The snafu affected both XP and Vista users who tried to either activate

>> or download a free program that requires WGA approval. To their credit,

>> MS said that one user is too much. I guess they have more class than

>> Leythos who thinks that 12,000, which is what MS says were affected, is

>> insignificant.

>

> 12,000 users, considering how many there are, is insignificant in the

> total number of things.

>

 

 

 

Assuming that's anywhere close to the figure, which considering how many

turned up here just for Vista it's probably not, ah but Leythos says

that's okay so that's okay then.

On Sat, 01 Sep 2007 05:51:27 -0400, Leythos wrote:

> In article <fb8noc$rbd$1@aioe.org>, iamalias@shoesgmail.com says...

>> Leythos wrote:

>> > In article <eXKO5u16HHA.1204@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl>, a@b.com says...

>> >> And yes, I have used Ubuntu, quite a lot actually. I find it most amusing

>> >> that the default installation is that it erases Windows and installs itself

>> >> over.

>> >

>> > What's more amusing is that Alias keeps preaching Ubuntu as the solution

>> > for the masses, but he keeps running XP for the same reason that other

>> > people use Windows.

>>

>> I only use Windows for gaming and that's only because the people who

>> make games don't make them for Ubuntu.

>>

>> >

>> > If he really believe in his preachings to the masses he would have got

>> > rid of all MS products and lived his message instead of being such a

>> > hypocrite.

>>

>> With the exception of gaming, I *am* living my message and I'm not being

>> hypocritical at all.

>

> No, you're telling lies, you keep preaching how Ubuntu is what people

> need and that it's better than Windows, but you keep using Windows....

>

> You're exposed and a liar - If you're going to keep Windows, supporting

> Microsoft, for any reason, then you don't need Ubuntu - Windows does all

> that Ubuntu does, so there is no reason to have Ubuntu - there is no

> reason to complicate things with having TWO O/S's two sets of

> applications...

 

Actually Windows doesn't do all that Ubuntu does. Windows is useless for

one thing I am doing right now for example.

 

Watching TV =)

 

Can't play any video on the secondary output, only get a black window.

Tested this under both Vista and XP and it's a known problem not just

specific to me.

 

Oh and Windows does not have proper multi-screen multi-desktop support.

The best it can do is either clone *one* desktop or extend *one* desktop.

It can't actually have two separate desktops simultaneously on separate

screens.

 

Oh and it doesn't have a decent file system. It is still restricted to

mucking around with drive letters. This may not be that much of an issue

to someone who only has one hard drive and one CD/DVD drive.

 

However if you're like me and have multipel hard drives and multiple DVD

drives, drive letters start becoming a real pain in the ass. Not to

mention if one has removable drive trays like I used to have on one

system. The driver letter mess was just insane.

 

I can't even begin to describe how much I love no longer needing to have

drive letters when it comes to managing and accessing my drives in

meaningful ways.

 

--

Stephan

2003 Yamaha R6

 

å›ã®ã“ã¨æ€ã„出ã™æ—¥ãªã‚“ã¦ãªã„ã®ã¯

å›ã®ã“ã¨å¿˜ã‚ŒãŸã¨ããŒãªã„ã‹ã‚‰

"Stephan Rose" <nospam@spammer.com> wrote in message

news:jLednTroiMjKxUTb4p2dnAA@giganews.com...

> Actually Windows doesn't do all that Ubuntu does. Windows is useless for

> one thing I am doing right now for example.

>

> Watching TV =)

>

> Can't play any video on the secondary output, only get a black window.

> Tested this under both Vista and XP and it's a known problem not just

> specific to me.

 

ITYM your windows can't.

I have had it working quite well on my desktop machine.

I expect it would work on this laptop too but I don't have a HDMI cable to

try it ATM.

>

> Oh and Windows does not have proper multi-screen multi-desktop support.

> The best it can do is either clone *one* desktop or extend *one* desktop.

> It can't actually have two separate desktops simultaneously on separate

> screens.

 

Odd I have had four seperate desktops running on mine.

I didn't find it was better than one but YMMV.

An extended desktop was more use, you can see more data by stretch the

window across the screen.

Add to that the fact that it was actually running three overlapping

projectors to produce a display about 3500x1024 and running wide screen

multimedia presentations and I think you will realise that just because you

can't do it doesn't mean it can't be done.

It just means its beyond your present capabilities.

 

>

> Oh and it doesn't have a decent file system. It is still restricted to

> mucking around with drive letters. This may not be that much of an issue

> to someone who only has one hard drive and one CD/DVD drive.

 

And mucking about with "mount -f filesystem type -o some arbitary option

list /dev/hda0xxxxx /usr/mnt/somesillypathname" is significantly better?

Different maybe but not neccessaraly better.

BTW you can mount drives as subdirectory trees in windows too.

>

> However if you're like me and have multipel hard drives and multiple DVD

> drives, drive letters start becoming a real pain in the ass. Not to

> mention if one has removable drive trays like I used to have on one

> system. The driver letter mess was just insane.

 

Just change them to what you want then.

Or even learn how to mount them as you do in linux.

>

> I can't even begin to describe how much I love no longer needing to have

> drive letters when it comes to managing and accessing my drives in

> meaningful ways.

 

Some people may find device driver names in linux meaningful.. others may

not.

Throw in some links and symbolic links and you can make a *real* mess in

linux.

In more advanced civilzation it's "innocent until proven guilty". So until

you can prove it ..

 

Saucy

 

 

"Alias" <iamalias@shoesgmail.com> wrote in message

news:fbbcub$34b$3@aioe.org...

> Leythos wrote:

>> In article <uCxHim86HHA.5984@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl>, charlie@tames.net

>> says...

>>> Why do you always react with accusations of "Hate" like some mardy child

>>> who just had his ball stolen. Pathetic and childish, both. You have no

>>> logical argument, only accusations that at least in my case are nothing

>>> more than lies.

>>

>> Keep trying - you're the one suggesting that MS makes you feel like a

>> thief and pirate.... All you're doing is spreading hate that you feel.

>>

>

> The fact that you're guilty until you prove otherwise over and over again

> makes you feel like what?

>

> --

> Alias

> To email me, remove shoes

Saucy wrote:

> In more advanced civilzation it's "innocent until proven guilty". So

> until you can prove it ..

>

> Saucy

 

Both WPA and WGA assume you are guilty of piracy until you prove otherwise.

 

--

Alias

To email me, remove shoes

>

>

> "Alias" <iamalias@shoesgmail.com> wrote in message

> news:fbbcub$34b$3@aioe.org...

>> Leythos wrote:

>>> In article <uCxHim86HHA.5984@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl>, charlie@tames.net

>>> says...

>>>> Why do you always react with accusations of "Hate" like some mardy

>>>> child who just had his ball stolen. Pathetic and childish, both. You

>>>> have no logical argument, only accusations that at least in my case

>>>> are nothing more than lies.

>>>

>>> Keep trying - you're the one suggesting that MS makes you feel like a

>>> thief and pirate.... All you're doing is spreading hate that you feel.

>>>

>>

>> The fact that you're guilty until you prove otherwise over and over

>> again makes you feel like what?

>>

>> --

>> Alias

>> To email me, remove shoes

>

Alias wrote:

> Leythos wrote:

>

>> In article <fb8noc$rbd$1@aioe.org>, iamalias@shoesgmail.com says...

>>

>>> Leythos wrote:

>>>

>>>> In article <eXKO5u16HHA.1204@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl>, a@b.com says...

>>>>

>>>>> And yes, I have used Ubuntu, quite a lot actually. I find it most

>>>>> amusing that the default installation is that it erases Windows and

>>>>> installs itself over.

>>>>

>>>> What's more amusing is that Alias keeps preaching Ubuntu as the

>>>> solution for the masses, but he keeps running XP for the same reason

>>>> that other people use Windows.

>>>

>>> I only use Windows for gaming and that's only because the people who

>>> make games don't make them for Ubuntu.

>>>

>>>> If he really believe in his preachings to the masses he would have

>>>> got rid of all MS products and lived his message instead of being

>>>> such a hypocrite.

>>>

>>> With the exception of gaming, I *am* living my message and I'm not

>>> being hypocritical at all.

>>

>>

>> No, you're telling lies, you keep preaching how Ubuntu is what people

>> need and that it's better than Windows, but you keep using Windows....

>>

>> You're exposed and a liar - If you're going to keep Windows,

>> supporting Microsoft, for any reason, then you don't need Ubuntu -

>> Windows does all that Ubuntu does, so there is no reason to have

>> Ubuntu - there is no reason to complicate things with having TWO O/S's

>> two sets of applications...

>>

>> You're living a lie and not being honest with people.

>>

>> If you said "Ubuntu is a good platform for people that don't need

>> Windows, people that will never need to play Windows based games,

>> people that will never need to work with Microsoft based document

>> formats other than simple formatting, that will never need support

>> from MOST people they come across" then I would say, yes, Ubuntu is

>> good for them.

>>

>

> Are you always this confused? I own three copies of XP, one of Vista.

> They are useful for gaming and gaming only as far as I am concerned. For

> real work, safe surfing and a stable OS, I prefer Ubuntu. Nothing

> hypocritical about that at all.

>

 

Give it up! He nailed your ass really good just like I and many others

have been doing now for months.

You're now lying only to yourself which is the real tragedy in your

faithless atheist linux lovin loser of a life.

Hehehe...I just love that statement don't you?

Frank

Stephan Rose wrote:

> On Sat, 01 Sep 2007 05:51:27 -0400, Leythos wrote:

>

>

>>In article <fb8noc$rbd$1@aioe.org>, iamalias@shoesgmail.com says...

>>

>>>Leythos wrote:

>>>

>>>>In article <eXKO5u16HHA.1204@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl>, a@b.com says...

>>>>

>>>>>And yes, I have used Ubuntu, quite a lot actually. I find it most amusing

>>>>>that the default installation is that it erases Windows and installs itself

>>>>>over.

>>>>

>>>>What's more amusing is that Alias keeps preaching Ubuntu as the solution

>>>>for the masses, but he keeps running XP for the same reason that other

>>>>people use Windows.

>>>

>>>I only use Windows for gaming and that's only because the people who

>>>make games don't make them for Ubuntu.

>>>

>>>

>>>>If he really believe in his preachings to the masses he would have got

>>>>rid of all MS products and lived his message instead of being such a

>>>>hypocrite.

>>>

>>>With the exception of gaming, I *am* living my message and I'm not being

>>>hypocritical at all.

>>

>>No, you're telling lies, you keep preaching how Ubuntu is what people

>>need and that it's better than Windows, but you keep using Windows....

>>

>>You're exposed and a liar - If you're going to keep Windows, supporting

>>Microsoft, for any reason, then you don't need Ubuntu - Windows does all

>>that Ubuntu does, so there is no reason to have Ubuntu - there is no

>>reason to complicate things with having TWO O/S's two sets of

>>applications...

>

>

> Actually Windows doesn't do all that Ubuntu does. Windows is useless for

> one thing I am doing right now for example.

>

> Watching TV =)

 

Wanna bet?

>

> Can't play any video on the secondary output, only get a black window.

> Tested this under both Vista and XP and it's a known problem not just

> specific to me.

 

Wanna bet?

>

> Oh and Windows does not have proper multi-screen multi-desktop support.

> The best it can do is either clone *one* desktop or extend *one* desktop.

> It can't actually have two separate desktops simultaneously on separate

> screens.

 

Wanna bet?

>

> Oh and it doesn't have a decent file system. It is still restricted to

> mucking around with drive letters. This may not be that much of an issue

> to someone who only has one hard drive and one CD/DVD drive.

 

Yawn.

>

> However if you're like me and have multipel hard drives and multiple DVD

> drives, drive letters start becoming a real pain in the ass. Not to

> mention if one has removable drive trays like I used to have on one

> system. The driver letter mess was just insane.

 

Confused huh? Not me.

>

> I can't even begin to describe how much I love no longer needing to have

> drive letters when it comes to managing and accessing my drives in

> meaningful ways.

 

Really? Made your day, huh?

Amazing!

Frank

 

>

Frank wrote:

> Alias wrote:

>

>> Leythos wrote:

>>

>>> In article <fb8noc$rbd$1@aioe.org>, iamalias@shoesgmail.com says...

>>>

>>>> Leythos wrote:

>>>>

>>>>> In article <eXKO5u16HHA.1204@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl>, a@b.com says...

>>>>>

>>>>>> And yes, I have used Ubuntu, quite a lot actually. I find it most

>>>>>> amusing that the default installation is that it erases Windows

>>>>>> and installs itself over.

>>>>>

>>>>> What's more amusing is that Alias keeps preaching Ubuntu as the

>>>>> solution for the masses, but he keeps running XP for the same

>>>>> reason that other people use Windows.

>>>>

>>>> I only use Windows for gaming and that's only because the people who

>>>> make games don't make them for Ubuntu.

>>>>

>>>>> If he really believe in his preachings to the masses he would have

>>>>> got rid of all MS products and lived his message instead of being

>>>>> such a hypocrite.

>>>>

>>>> With the exception of gaming, I *am* living my message and I'm not

>>>> being hypocritical at all.

>>>

>>>

>>> No, you're telling lies, you keep preaching how Ubuntu is what people

>>> need and that it's better than Windows, but you keep using Windows....

>>>

>>> You're exposed and a liar - If you're going to keep Windows,

>>> supporting Microsoft, for any reason, then you don't need Ubuntu -

>>> Windows does all that Ubuntu does, so there is no reason to have

>>> Ubuntu - there is no reason to complicate things with having TWO

>>> O/S's two sets of applications...

>>>

>>> You're living a lie and not being honest with people.

>>>

>>> If you said "Ubuntu is a good platform for people that don't need

>>> Windows, people that will never need to play Windows based games,

>>> people that will never need to work with Microsoft based document

>>> formats other than simple formatting, that will never need support

>>> from MOST people they come across" then I would say, yes, Ubuntu is

>>> good for them.

>>>

>>

>> Are you always this confused? I own three copies of XP, one of Vista.

>> They are useful for gaming and gaming only as far as I am concerned.

>> For real work, safe surfing and a stable OS, I prefer Ubuntu. Nothing

>> hypocritical about that at all.

>>

>

> Give it up! He nailed your ass really good just like I and many others

> have been doing now for months.

> You're now lying only to yourself which is the real tragedy in your

> faithless atheist linux lovin loser of a life.

> Hehehe...I just love that statement don't you?

> Frank

 

Yawn. No, you never post anything cute and clever, except in your own mind.

 

--

Alias

To email me, remove shoes

Alias wrote:

>>

>

> The fact that you're guilty until you prove otherwise over and over

> again makes you feel like what?

>

You know, I still get the idea that maybe you've got wants & warrants

out for your sorry ass in the good'o US of A. You can't use your real

name (or maybe you're ashamed of it?) and you feel like a thief all the

time according to your postings.

What is that all about? Are you a thief? I've never heard anyone else

except you say you feel like a thief concerning Windows.

I'm sure it's proly just a Freudian slip of sorts right?

You're not a thief right?

Just curious.

Frank

Frank wrote:

> Alias wrote:

>

>>>

>>

>> The fact that you're guilty until you prove otherwise over and over

>> again makes you feel like what?

>>

> You know, I still get the idea that maybe you've got wants & warrants

> out for your sorry ass in the good'o US of A. You can't use your real

> name (or maybe you're ashamed of it?) and you feel like a thief all the

> time according to your postings.

> What is that all about? Are you a thief? I've never heard anyone else

> except you say you feel like a thief concerning Windows.

> I'm sure it's proly just a Freudian slip of sorts right?

> You're not a thief right?

> Just curious.

> Frank

 

Um, you're the one who continually brings up warrants and being wanted

by the law. I'm sure it's proly just a Freudian slip of sorts right?

 

--

Alias

To email me, remove shoes

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Reply to this topic...