Frank wrote:

> Alias wrote:

>

>> Leythos wrote:

>>

>>> In article <uFT77KX7HHA.464@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl>,

>>> iamalias@shoesgmail.com. says...

>>>

>>>> Just curious, why do you object to my using both systems, other than

>>>> your obsession with trying to oneupmanship me? I may buy a Mac just

>>>> to see how it is. Would that bother you too?

>>>>

>>>> I have never advised someone to switch to Ubuntu to play games. I

>>>> have advised it for safer surfing, no need for ninja hardware, etc,,

>>>> but not for gaming.

>>>

>>>

>>> I don't object to you using windows - I object to your BS mantra that

>>> Ubuntu does what most people need and they won't need windows - that

>>> it solves their problems....

>>>

>>> Clearly, just about any home with a computer also has at least one

>>> game on it, other than what was included, and that means that any

>>> home with kids in their teens, well, they just need Windows to play

>>> those games.

>>>

>>> Now, while Ubuntu is a good BOX for browsing, email, and some other

>>> common things, it does not give your average home with kids what they

>>> need.

>>>

>>> You seem to think that Mom and Dad are going to be able to manage a

>>> Dual Boot system when they don't need to, they just need Windows and

>>> a little education. As was already proven, a stupid Administrator,

>>> someone that should know better, compromised their Ubuntu

>>> installation - so it appears that all OS's need to have trained users.

>>>

>>> Now, you can preach that Ubuntu is for the masses, but it fails the

>>> one task - being a full replacement for something that already works.

>>

>>

>> Speaking of kids, a friend of mine just brought over a Windows XP

>> computer that her grandchild uses and it's, you guessed it, fully

>> infected. Had the kid been using Ubuntu, there would be no infections

>> and she wouldn't have to pay me to clean up the computer. Ubuntu is

>> going on this machine and, being as the kid doesn't have any Windows

>> games or any need for fancy dancy Word docs, no Windows.

>>

>> The neighbor upstairs also has a fully infected XP machine. So

>> infected, the AV was disabled, along with Spybot, Windows firewall and

>> Spywareguard. He is converting to an Ubuntu only machine because he

>> doesn't play games or have any need for fancy dancy Office files.

>>

> Yawn...more lies?

 

A lie.

> Trying to build a strawman ain't gonna work.

 

An insult.

> So please stop lying, ok?

 

Another lie.

> Frank

>

> Oh, and no more projecting ok and how about those receipts?

 

Bluster.

 

--

Alias

To email me, remove shoes

Frank wrote:

> Alias wrote:

>

>> Frank wrote:

>>

>>> Alias wrote:

>>>

>>>> Adam The Thread Destroyer Albright > wrote:

>>>>

>>>>> Alias wrote:

>>>>>

>>>>>> Leythos wrote:

>>>>>>

>>>>>>> In article <fbehkn$cc0$1@aioe.org>, iamalias@shoesgmail.com says...

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> EXCEPT FOR SOME GAMES, Ubuntu can meet the needs of most people.

>>>>>>>> Nowadays, MOST PEOPLE play games on a console so Windows is

>>>>>>>> needed much less nowadays than before. Personally, I hate

>>>>>>>> consoles so I have a Windows box to play games MADE ONLY FOR

>>>>>>>> WINDOWS.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> And except for nothing, Windows meets the needs of MOST PEOPLE

>>>>>>> NOWADAYS. And the nice thing about Windows is that it doesn't

>>>>>>> require that you have a hobby OS in order to pretend you don't

>>>>>>> need other things.

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>> It is much better at acquiring viruses and malware.

>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Face it, if Ubuntu was able to do the things that MOST people

>>>>>>> need, you would not be running Windows - as most families have

>>>>>>> kids that play GAMES, your logic fails you and proves that you

>>>>>>> are wrong.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Most kids use PS2/3, Xbox or Wii for gaming. Where have you been,

>>>>>> under a rock?

>>>>>>

>>>>>> I have never advised anyone to switch to Ubuntu for gaming. I have

>>>>>> advised it if they are tired of the "anti piracy" crap, being

>>>>>> prone to viruses and malware, the ease of install, etc. and that

>>>>>> it will do MOST things that MOST people need.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Just curious, why do you object to my running more than one OS? I

>>>>>> may buy a Mac. Will that bother you too?

>>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>> <Alias, why don't you just shut the he** up. You've been made to be

>>>>> a *fool* and a *hypocrite*. Your mo is the mo of a *fool* and a

>>>>> *hypocrite*. I am sure I am not the only one that is seeing this.>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>> Can you address the issues or merely try to shoot the messenger and

>>>> miss every single time?

>>>>

>>> Sorry pal but that old line ain't gonna work in this case cause you,

>>> the messenger, are the issue!

>>> Frank

>>

>>

>> Due to your inability to reply to content,

>

> You are the content you moron!

>

> you have nothing left.

>> Besides, you've never addressed content and have always tried to shoot

>> the messenger with classless insults, lies and bluster.

>

> You are the content you idiot!

> Frank

 

You wish.

 

--

Alias

To email me, remove shoes

Alias wrote:

> Leythos wrote:

>

>> In article <uBcoTRX7HHA.5012@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl>,

>> iamalias@shoesgmail.com. says...

>>

>>> So, once again, it's a indisputable fact that WPA and WGA do NOTHING

>>> to stop piracy and ONLY inconvenience paying customers. Live with it.

>>> Oh, I forgot, you LIKE living with it :-)

>>

>>

>> Wrong, it stopped Piracy, once the pirate was exposed the police were

>> able to stop him - without WPA/WGA it would never have been stopped.

>>

>

> Does this mean you are conceding all the other points I made that you

> snipped? One case where WGA worked does not stop piracy. Piracy is more

> rampant now than it was ten years ago.

>

 

So you've publicly admitted that you're a part of the problem, is that

correct?

Frank

Alias wrote:

>>

>

> Only logic impaired individuals like you don't understand what Nina and

> I are talking about.

>

 

Nah...the reverse is true and we all know it.

Frank

Alias wrote:

> Frank wrote:

>

>> Alias wrote:

>>

>>> Leythos wrote:

>>>

>>>> In article <uFT77KX7HHA.464@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl>,

>>>> iamalias@shoesgmail.com. says...

>>>>

>>>>> Just curious, why do you object to my using both systems, other

>>>>> than your obsession with trying to oneupmanship me? I may buy a Mac

>>>>> just to see how it is. Would that bother you too?

>>>>>

>>>>> I have never advised someone to switch to Ubuntu to play games. I

>>>>> have advised it for safer surfing, no need for ninja hardware,

>>>>> etc,, but not for gaming.

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>> I don't object to you using windows - I object to your BS mantra

>>>> that Ubuntu does what most people need and they won't need windows -

>>>> that it solves their problems....

>>>>

>>>> Clearly, just about any home with a computer also has at least one

>>>> game on it, other than what was included, and that means that any

>>>> home with kids in their teens, well, they just need Windows to play

>>>> those games.

>>>>

>>>> Now, while Ubuntu is a good BOX for browsing, email, and some other

>>>> common things, it does not give your average home with kids what

>>>> they need.

>>>>

>>>> You seem to think that Mom and Dad are going to be able to manage a

>>>> Dual Boot system when they don't need to, they just need Windows and

>>>> a little education. As was already proven, a stupid Administrator,

>>>> someone that should know better, compromised their Ubuntu

>>>> installation - so it appears that all OS's need to have trained users.

>>>>

>>>> Now, you can preach that Ubuntu is for the masses, but it fails the

>>>> one task - being a full replacement for something that already works.

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>> Speaking of kids, a friend of mine just brought over a Windows XP

>>> computer that her grandchild uses and it's, you guessed it, fully

>>> infected. Had the kid been using Ubuntu, there would be no infections

>>> and she wouldn't have to pay me to clean up the computer. Ubuntu is

>>> going on this machine and, being as the kid doesn't have any Windows

>>> games or any need for fancy dancy Word docs, no Windows.

>>>

>>> The neighbor upstairs also has a fully infected XP machine. So

>>> infected, the AV was disabled, along with Spybot, Windows firewall

>>> and Spywareguard. He is converting to an Ubuntu only machine because

>>> he doesn't play games or have any need for fancy dancy Office files.

>>>

>> Yawn...more lies?

>

>

> A lie.

>

>> Trying to build a strawman ain't gonna work.

>

>

> An insult.

>

>> So please stop lying, ok?

>

>

> Another lie.

>

>> Frank

>>

>> Oh, and no more projecting ok and how about those receipts?

>

>

> Bluster.

>

Try answering the content instead of shooting the messenger ok?

Frank

Frank wrote:

> Alias wrote:

>

>> Leythos wrote:

>>

>>> In article <fbeo2m$u4b$1@aioe.org>, iamalias@shoesgmail.com says...

>>>

>>>> Can you address the issues or merely try to shoot the messenger and

>>>> miss every single time?

>>>>

>>>

>>> You are the issue Alias - preaching that Ubuntu is the salvation for

>>> the masses, yet you don't tell them about it's failings that keep you

>>> running Windows.

>>

>>

>> "Salvation for the masses"? Do you thing that a computer is a kind of

>> god or something?

>>

>>>

>>> That means that you are the issue, telling lies without concern,

>>> screwing people that don't know any better.

>>>

>>

>> I have, over and over again, said that Ubuntu isn't an OS the gaming

>> industry is interested in. As it grows in popularity, that will

>> change. I know you hate the fact that your god, Windows, is in the

>> sunset of its life cycle and that Linux is the coming thing but maybe

>> if you open your mind, you can live with it.

>>

>

> You're fukkin sick in the head!

> Amazing!

> Frank

 

How charming.

 

--

Alias

To email me, remove shoes

Frank wrote:

> Alias wrote:

>

>> Leythos wrote:

>>

>>> In article <uBcoTRX7HHA.5012@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl>,

>>> iamalias@shoesgmail.com. says...

>>>

>>>> So, once again, it's a indisputable fact that WPA and WGA do NOTHING

>>>> to stop piracy and ONLY inconvenience paying customers. Live with

>>>> it. Oh, I forgot, you LIKE living with it :-)

>>>

>>>

>>> Wrong, it stopped Piracy, once the pirate was exposed the police were

>>> able to stop him - without WPA/WGA it would never have been stopped.

>>>

>>

>> Does this mean you are conceding all the other points I made that you

>> snipped? One case where WGA worked does not stop piracy. Piracy is

>> more rampant now than it was ten years ago.

>>

>

> So you've publicly admitted that you're a part of the problem, is that

> correct?

> Frank

 

Only in your twisted imagination.

 

--

Alias

To email me, remove shoes

Frank wrote:

> Alias wrote:

>

>>>

>>

>> Only logic impaired individuals like you don't understand what Nina

>> and I are talking about.

>>

>

> Nah...the reverse is true and we all know it.

> Frank

 

You and all the other logic impaired people don't understand. It's only

natural.

 

--

Alias

To email me, remove shoes

Alias wrote:

> Frank wrote:

>

>> Alias wrote:

>>

>>> Leythos wrote:

>>>

>>>> In article <fbeo2m$u4b$1@aioe.org>, iamalias@shoesgmail.com says...

>>>>

>>>>> Can you address the issues or merely try to shoot the messenger and

>>>>> miss every single time?

>>>>>

>>>>

>>>> You are the issue Alias - preaching that Ubuntu is the salvation for

>>>> the masses, yet you don't tell them about it's failings that keep

>>>> you running Windows.

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>> "Salvation for the masses"? Do you thing that a computer is a kind of

>>> god or something?

>>>

>>>>

>>>> That means that you are the issue, telling lies without concern,

>>>> screwing people that don't know any better.

>>>>

>>>

>>> I have, over and over again, said that Ubuntu isn't an OS the gaming

>>> industry is interested in. As it grows in popularity, that will

>>> change. I know you hate the fact that your god, Windows, is in the

>>> sunset of its life cycle and that Linux is the coming thing but maybe

>>> if you open your mind, you can live with it.

>>>

>>

>> You're fukkin sick in the head!

>> Amazing!

>> Frank

>

>

> How charming.

>

Really? You find that you being sick in the head "charming"?

Now that's really sick!

Frank

Alias wrote:

> Frank wrote:

>

>> Alias wrote:

>>

>>> Leythos wrote:

>>>

>>>> In article <uBcoTRX7HHA.5012@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl>,

>>>> iamalias@shoesgmail.com. says...

>>>>

>>>>> So, once again, it's a indisputable fact that WPA and WGA do

>>>>> NOTHING to stop piracy and ONLY inconvenience paying customers.

>>>>> Live with it. Oh, I forgot, you LIKE living with it :-)

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>> Wrong, it stopped Piracy, once the pirate was exposed the police

>>>> were able to stop him - without WPA/WGA it would never have been

>>>> stopped.

>>>>

>>>

>>> Does this mean you are conceding all the other points I made that you

>>> snipped? One case where WGA worked does not stop piracy. Piracy is

>>> more rampant now than it was ten years ago.

>>>

>>

>> So you've publicly admitted that you're a part of the problem, is that

>> correct?

>> Frank

>

>

> Only in your twisted imagination.

>

 

hehehe...back tracking and back pedaling again?

You said it now you live with it!

Frank

Alias wrote:

> Frank wrote:

>

>> Alias wrote:

>>

>>>>

>>>

>>> Only logic impaired individuals like you don't understand what Nina

>>> and I are talking about.

>>>

>>

>> Nah...the reverse is true and we all know it.

>> Frank

>

>

> You and all the other logic impaired people don't understand. It's only

> natural.

>

Please hold your breath will waiting for your linux market projections

to come true, ok?

Thanks!

Frank

Frank wrote:

> Alias wrote:

>

>> Frank wrote:

>>

>>> Alias wrote:

>>>

>>>> Leythos wrote:

>>>>

>>>>> In article <uFT77KX7HHA.464@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl>,

>>>>> iamalias@shoesgmail.com. says...

>>>>>

>>>>>> Just curious, why do you object to my using both systems, other

>>>>>> than your obsession with trying to oneupmanship me? I may buy a

>>>>>> Mac just to see how it is. Would that bother you too?

>>>>>>

>>>>>> I have never advised someone to switch to Ubuntu to play games. I

>>>>>> have advised it for safer surfing, no need for ninja hardware,

>>>>>> etc,, but not for gaming.

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>> I don't object to you using windows - I object to your BS mantra

>>>>> that Ubuntu does what most people need and they won't need windows

>>>>> - that it solves their problems....

>>>>>

>>>>> Clearly, just about any home with a computer also has at least one

>>>>> game on it, other than what was included, and that means that any

>>>>> home with kids in their teens, well, they just need Windows to play

>>>>> those games.

>>>>>

>>>>> Now, while Ubuntu is a good BOX for browsing, email, and some other

>>>>> common things, it does not give your average home with kids what

>>>>> they need.

>>>>>

>>>>> You seem to think that Mom and Dad are going to be able to manage a

>>>>> Dual Boot system when they don't need to, they just need Windows

>>>>> and a little education. As was already proven, a stupid

>>>>> Administrator, someone that should know better, compromised their

>>>>> Ubuntu installation - so it appears that all OS's need to have

>>>>> trained users.

>>>>>

>>>>> Now, you can preach that Ubuntu is for the masses, but it fails the

>>>>> one task - being a full replacement for something that already works.

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>> Speaking of kids, a friend of mine just brought over a Windows XP

>>>> computer that her grandchild uses and it's, you guessed it, fully

>>>> infected. Had the kid been using Ubuntu, there would be no

>>>> infections and she wouldn't have to pay me to clean up the computer.

>>>> Ubuntu is going on this machine and, being as the kid doesn't have

>>>> any Windows games or any need for fancy dancy Word docs, no Windows.

>>>>

>>>> The neighbor upstairs also has a fully infected XP machine. So

>>>> infected, the AV was disabled, along with Spybot, Windows firewall

>>>> and Spywareguard. He is converting to an Ubuntu only machine because

>>>> he doesn't play games or have any need for fancy dancy Office files.

>>>>

>>> Yawn...more lies?

>>

>>

>> A lie.

>>

>>> Trying to build a strawman ain't gonna work.

>>

>>

>> An insult.

>>

>>> So please stop lying, ok?

>>

>>

>> Another lie.

>>

>>> Frank

>>>

>>> Oh, and no more projecting ok and how about those receipts?

>>

>>

>> Bluster.

>>

> Try answering the content instead of shooting the messenger ok?

> Frank

 

When and if you ever post content other than lies, insults and bluster,

I'll be delighted to address the content. Can you do it?

 

--

Alias

To email me, remove shoes

Frank wrote:

> Alias wrote:

>> Frank wrote:

>>

>>> Alias wrote:

>>>

>>>> Leythos wrote:

>>>>

>>>>> In article <fbeo2m$u4b$1@aioe.org>, iamalias@shoesgmail.com says...

>>>>>

>>>>>> Can you address the issues or merely try to shoot the messenger

>>>>>> and miss every single time?

>>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>> You are the issue Alias - preaching that Ubuntu is the salvation

>>>>> for the masses, yet you don't tell them about it's failings that

>>>>> keep you running Windows.

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>> "Salvation for the masses"? Do you thing that a computer is a kind

>>>> of god or something?

>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>> That means that you are the issue, telling lies without concern,

>>>>> screwing people that don't know any better.

>>>>>

>>>>

>>>> I have, over and over again, said that Ubuntu isn't an OS the gaming

>>>> industry is interested in. As it grows in popularity, that will

>>>> change. I know you hate the fact that your god, Windows, is in the

>>>> sunset of its life cycle and that Linux is the coming thing but

>>>> maybe if you open your mind, you can live with it.

>>>>

>>>

>>> You're fukkin sick in the head!

>>> Amazing!

>>> Frank

>>

>>

>> How charming.

>>

> Really? You find that you being sick in the head "charming"?

> Now that's really sick!

> Frank

 

Ever hear of sarcasm or were you too busy insulting, lying and

blustering about the teacher to understand what she or he was saying?

 

--

Alias

To email me, remove shoes

On Sun, 02 Sep 2007 14:01:47 -0400, Saucy wrote:

> "Alias" <iamalias@shoesgmail.com> wrote in message

> news:fbcunr$9rb$1@aioe.org...

>> Saucy wrote:

>>> You use Windows, eh? That's rich, the Ubuntu advocate runs Windows.

>>> Saucy

>>

>> LOL! I've been using windows since 92. If the gaming folks made their

>> games for Ubuntu, I would ditch Windows in a New York second.

>>

>> --

>> Alias

>> To email me, remove shoes

>

> Uh huh. Not much of an advocate in other words - you don't put your money

> where your mouth is.

>

> But I have to agree, like for many things including gaming, the Linux

> platform doesn't cut it.

>

> People who do sound production have a similar excuse. Most of the really

> good software is on the Windows platform save the odd Mac piece.

>

> The Linux platform doesn't cut it. Not for games, not for sound, not for

> business and so on. About he only major success Linux has is in file and web

> file serving .. and it doesn't do any better than Windows at these, if. The

> rest of the Linux platform is and will stay sh*t.

 

I disagree with that Saucy. The issue in those areas is not Linux's

ability to not perform well enough. It can perform extremely well in those

areas with ease. So just looking at the platform itself, it cuts it

perfectly fine.

 

It just simply doesn't have enough market share for developers to actually

use the platform. That ultimately is the issue, not it's ability to

perform.

 

And to be honest, I don't 100% understand why some developers don't do

more cross platform. I mean developers go beyond great lengths to try to

prevent people from stealing their games so they can gain a minor amount in

sales....but then they turn around and let a complete platform that could

amount far more in sales than their piracy prevention slip away.

 

I say games particularly because games are one of the easiest things to

write cross platform. They are not dependent on the system GUI, they use

their own GUI. Both graphics and sound libraries are available cross

platform and are used in the windows world often enough. Networking code

generally isn't platform dependent either.

 

Sure DirectX is dominant for windows games as it is not an illogical choice

for someone only targeting windows, but OpenGL is not any less powerful

and far more cross platform friendly. I mean ultimately both DirectX and

OpenGL are nothing more than abstraction layers to access the video

hardware so neither can do more than what the video card allows in the

first place.

 

For other types of Apps, I think that reasonable cross-platform

technologies haven't really started to mature sufficiently until about a

year ago. So I'm not surprised to not see more cross platform apps in

those areas. But maybe that will change in the future.

 

Ultimately what I'd like to see is both OS perform well and developers

writing more cross platform capable apps so that we, as users, can have

more choices what to use.

 

--

Stephan

2003 Yamaha R6

 

å›ã®ã“ã¨æ€ã„出ã™æ—¥ãªã‚“ã¦ãªã„ã®ã¯

å›ã®ã“ã¨å¿˜ã‚ŒãŸã¨ããŒãªã„ã‹ã‚‰

Alias wrote:

> Frank wrote:

>

>> Alias wrote:

>>

>>> Frank wrote:

>>>

>>>> Alias wrote:

>>>>

>>>>> Leythos wrote:

>>>>>

>>>>>> In article <uFT77KX7HHA.464@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl>,

>>>>>> iamalias@shoesgmail.com. says...

>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Just curious, why do you object to my using both systems, other

>>>>>>> than your obsession with trying to oneupmanship me? I may buy a

>>>>>>> Mac just to see how it is. Would that bother you too?

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> I have never advised someone to switch to Ubuntu to play games. I

>>>>>>> have advised it for safer surfing, no need for ninja hardware,

>>>>>>> etc,, but not for gaming.

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>> I don't object to you using windows - I object to your BS mantra

>>>>>> that Ubuntu does what most people need and they won't need windows

>>>>>> - that it solves their problems....

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Clearly, just about any home with a computer also has at least one

>>>>>> game on it, other than what was included, and that means that any

>>>>>> home with kids in their teens, well, they just need Windows to

>>>>>> play those games.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Now, while Ubuntu is a good BOX for browsing, email, and some

>>>>>> other common things, it does not give your average home with kids

>>>>>> what they need.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> You seem to think that Mom and Dad are going to be able to manage

>>>>>> a Dual Boot system when they don't need to, they just need Windows

>>>>>> and a little education. As was already proven, a stupid

>>>>>> Administrator, someone that should know better, compromised their

>>>>>> Ubuntu installation - so it appears that all OS's need to have

>>>>>> trained users.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Now, you can preach that Ubuntu is for the masses, but it fails

>>>>>> the one task - being a full replacement for something that already

>>>>>> works.

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>> Speaking of kids, a friend of mine just brought over a Windows XP

>>>>> computer that her grandchild uses and it's, you guessed it, fully

>>>>> infected. Had the kid been using Ubuntu, there would be no

>>>>> infections and she wouldn't have to pay me to clean up the

>>>>> computer. Ubuntu is going on this machine and, being as the kid

>>>>> doesn't have any Windows games or any need for fancy dancy Word

>>>>> docs, no Windows.

>>>>>

>>>>> The neighbor upstairs also has a fully infected XP machine. So

>>>>> infected, the AV was disabled, along with Spybot, Windows firewall

>>>>> and Spywareguard. He is converting to an Ubuntu only machine

>>>>> because he doesn't play games or have any need for fancy dancy

>>>>> Office files.

>>>>>

>>>> Yawn...more lies?

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>> A lie.

>>>

>>>> Trying to build a strawman ain't gonna work.

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>> An insult.

>>>

>>>> So please stop lying, ok?

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>> Another lie.

>>>

>>>> Frank

>>>>

>>>> Oh, and no more projecting ok and how about those receipts?

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>> Bluster.

>>>

>> Try answering the content instead of shooting the messenger ok?

>> Frank

>

>

> When and if you ever post content other than lies, insults and bluster,

> I'll be delighted to address the content. Can you do it?

>

More bluster, lies and now you're projecting again?

Give it up ok.

Haven't you already made a big fukkin fool out of yourself?

But don't let me stand in your way of being a fool.

Frank

Alias wrote:

> Frank wrote:

>

>> Alias wrote:

>>

>>> Frank wrote:

>>>

>>>> Alias wrote:

>>>>

>>>>> Leythos wrote:

>>>>>

>>>>>> In article <fbeo2m$u4b$1@aioe.org>, iamalias@shoesgmail.com says...

>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Can you address the issues or merely try to shoot the messenger

>>>>>>> and miss every single time?

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>> You are the issue Alias - preaching that Ubuntu is the salvation

>>>>>> for the masses, yet you don't tell them about it's failings that

>>>>>> keep you running Windows.

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>> "Salvation for the masses"? Do you thing that a computer is a kind

>>>>> of god or something?

>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>> That means that you are the issue, telling lies without concern,

>>>>>> screwing people that don't know any better.

>>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>> I have, over and over again, said that Ubuntu isn't an OS the

>>>>> gaming industry is interested in. As it grows in popularity, that

>>>>> will change. I know you hate the fact that your god, Windows, is in

>>>>> the sunset of its life cycle and that Linux is the coming thing but

>>>>> maybe if you open your mind, you can live with it.

>>>>>

>>>>

>>>> You're fukkin sick in the head!

>>>> Amazing!

>>>> Frank

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>> How charming.

>>>

>> Really? You find that you being sick in the head "charming"?

>> Now that's really sick!

>> Frank

>

>

> Ever hear of sarcasm or were you too busy insulting, lying and

> blustering about the teacher to understand what she or he was saying?

>

 

hehehe...what sarcasm...being sick in the head is sarcasm?

I don't think so and if you do then you really are sick in the head!

Frank

Frank wrote:

> Alias wrote:

>

>> Frank wrote:

>>

>>> Alias wrote:

>>>

>>>> Frank wrote:

>>>>

>>>>> Alias wrote:

>>>>>

>>>>>> Leythos wrote:

>>>>>>

>>>>>>> In article <uFT77KX7HHA.464@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl>,

>>>>>>> iamalias@shoesgmail.com. says...

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> Just curious, why do you object to my using both systems, other

>>>>>>>> than your obsession with trying to oneupmanship me? I may buy a

>>>>>>>> Mac just to see how it is. Would that bother you too?

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> I have never advised someone to switch to Ubuntu to play games.

>>>>>>>> I have advised it for safer surfing, no need for ninja hardware,

>>>>>>>> etc,, but not for gaming.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> I don't object to you using windows - I object to your BS mantra

>>>>>>> that Ubuntu does what most people need and they won't need

>>>>>>> windows - that it solves their problems....

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Clearly, just about any home with a computer also has at least

>>>>>>> one game on it, other than what was included, and that means that

>>>>>>> any home with kids in their teens, well, they just need Windows

>>>>>>> to play those games.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Now, while Ubuntu is a good BOX for browsing, email, and some

>>>>>>> other common things, it does not give your average home with kids

>>>>>>> what they need.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> You seem to think that Mom and Dad are going to be able to manage

>>>>>>> a Dual Boot system when they don't need to, they just need

>>>>>>> Windows and a little education. As was already proven, a stupid

>>>>>>> Administrator, someone that should know better, compromised their

>>>>>>> Ubuntu installation - so it appears that all OS's need to have

>>>>>>> trained users.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Now, you can preach that Ubuntu is for the masses, but it fails

>>>>>>> the one task - being a full replacement for something that

>>>>>>> already works.

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Speaking of kids, a friend of mine just brought over a Windows XP

>>>>>> computer that her grandchild uses and it's, you guessed it, fully

>>>>>> infected. Had the kid been using Ubuntu, there would be no

>>>>>> infections and she wouldn't have to pay me to clean up the

>>>>>> computer. Ubuntu is going on this machine and, being as the kid

>>>>>> doesn't have any Windows games or any need for fancy dancy Word

>>>>>> docs, no Windows.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> The neighbor upstairs also has a fully infected XP machine. So

>>>>>> infected, the AV was disabled, along with Spybot, Windows firewall

>>>>>> and Spywareguard. He is converting to an Ubuntu only machine

>>>>>> because he doesn't play games or have any need for fancy dancy

>>>>>> Office files.

>>>>>>

>>>>> Yawn...more lies?

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>> A lie.

>>>>

>>>>> Trying to build a strawman ain't gonna work.

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>> An insult.

>>>>

>>>>> So please stop lying, ok?

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>> Another lie.

>>>>

>>>>> Frank

>>>>>

>>>>> Oh, and no more projecting ok and how about those receipts?

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>> Bluster.

>>>>

>>> Try answering the content instead of shooting the messenger ok?

>>> Frank

>>

>>

>> When and if you ever post content other than lies, insults and

>> bluster, I'll be delighted to address the content. Can you do it?

>>

> More bluster, lies:

> Give it up ok.

> Haven't you already made a big fukkin fool out of yourself?

> But don't let me stand in your way of being a fool.

> Frank

Frank wrote:

> Alias wrote:

>

>> Frank wrote:

>>

>>> Alias wrote:

>>>

>>>> Frank wrote:

>>>>

>>>>> Alias wrote:

>>>>>

>>>>>> Leythos wrote:

>>>>>>

>>>>>>> In article <fbeo2m$u4b$1@aioe.org>, iamalias@shoesgmail.com says...

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> Can you address the issues or merely try to shoot the messenger

>>>>>>>> and miss every single time?

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> You are the issue Alias - preaching that Ubuntu is the salvation

>>>>>>> for the masses, yet you don't tell them about it's failings that

>>>>>>> keep you running Windows.

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>> "Salvation for the masses"? Do you thing that a computer is a kind

>>>>>> of god or something?

>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> That means that you are the issue, telling lies without concern,

>>>>>>> screwing people that don't know any better.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>> I have, over and over again, said that Ubuntu isn't an OS the

>>>>>> gaming industry is interested in. As it grows in popularity, that

>>>>>> will change. I know you hate the fact that your god, Windows, is

>>>>>> in the sunset of its life cycle and that Linux is the coming thing

>>>>>> but maybe if you open your mind, you can live with it.

>>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>> You're fukkin sick in the head!

>>>>> Amazing!

>>>>> Frank

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>> How charming.

>>>>

>>> Really? You find that you being sick in the head "charming"?

>>> Now that's really sick!

>>> Frank

>>

>>

>> Ever hear of sarcasm or were you too busy insulting, lying and

>> blustering about the teacher to understand what she or he was saying?

>>

>

 

Proof that Frank doesn't understand what sarcasm is:

> hehehe...what sarcasm...being sick in the head is sarcasm?

 

The usual bluster, lies and insults:

> I don't think so and if you do then you really are sick in the head!

> Frank

 

Frank, you're a one trick pony.

 

--

Alias

To email me, remove shoes

In article <fbgh5f$m1n$1@aioe.org>, iamalias@shoesgmail.com says...

> Leythos wrote:

> > In article <fbfih4$6kj$1@aioe.org>, iamalias@shoesgmail.com says...

> >> I'm not an "advocate". I am merely another user who is happy with Ubuntu

> >> and wants to spread the good news because most people don't know about

> >> it. Windows still has its uses.

> >

> > You are advocating that people switch to Ubuntu, you have done it many

> > times in this group and the XP groups, but you failed, each time, to

> > tell them that you continue to run Windows because Ubuntu doesn't

> > provide all that you need. Funny thing is that you also failed to tell

> > them that Windows does all that you need, you are just paranoid.

> >

> > So, windows does all that most users (home and corporate) need, in fact,

> > it does more than Ubuntu can deliver. Fact is that home users would have

> > to Dual Boot or have two computers if they listened to your Use Ubuntu,

> > it's all you need and will be simple....

> >

>

> Yawn. When you get over the fact that I use both Ubuntu and XP, let me know.

 

It's not that you use both that's at issue - it's that you tell people

to switch to Ubuntu, that they don't need Windows, and yet, as a common,

typical user, you can't abandon Windows any more than the people you

tell to abandon it can...

 

--

 

Leythos

- Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum.

- Calling an illegal alien an "undocumented worker" is like calling a

drug dealer an "unlicensed pharmacist"

spam999free@rrohio.com (remove 999 for proper email address)

In article <fbghi7$nkf$1@aioe.org>, iamalias@shoesgmail.com says...

> Leythos wrote:

> > In article <uFT77KX7HHA.464@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl>,

> > iamalias@shoesgmail.com. says...

> >> Just curious, why do you object to my using both systems, other than

> >> your obsession with trying to oneupmanship me? I may buy a Mac just to

> >> see how it is. Would that bother you too?

> >>

> >> I have never advised someone to switch to Ubuntu to play games. I have

> >> advised it for safer surfing, no need for ninja hardware, etc,, but not

> >> for gaming.

> >

> > I don't object to you using windows - I object to your BS mantra that

> > Ubuntu does what most people need and they won't need windows - that it

> > solves their problems....

> >

> > Clearly, just about any home with a computer also has at least one game

> > on it, other than what was included, and that means that any home with

> > kids in their teens, well, they just need Windows to play those games.

> >

> > Now, while Ubuntu is a good BOX for browsing, email, and some other

> > common things, it does not give your average home with kids what they

> > need.

> >

> > You seem to think that Mom and Dad are going to be able to manage a Dual

> > Boot system when they don't need to, they just need Windows and a little

> > education. As was already proven, a stupid Administrator, someone that

> > should know better, compromised their Ubuntu installation - so it

> > appears that all OS's need to have trained users.

> >

> > Now, you can preach that Ubuntu is for the masses, but it fails the one

> > task - being a full replacement for something that already works.

> >

>

> Speaking of kids, a friend of mine just brought over a Windows XP

> computer that her grandchild uses and it's, you guessed it, fully

> infected. Had the kid been using Ubuntu, there would be no infections

> and she wouldn't have to pay me to clean up the computer. Ubuntu is

> going on this machine and, being as the kid doesn't have any Windows

> games or any need for fancy dancy Word docs, no Windows.

>

> The neighbor upstairs also has a fully infected XP machine. So infected,

> the AV was disabled, along with Spybot, Windows firewall and

> Spywareguard. He is converting to an Ubuntu only machine because he

> doesn't play games or have any need for fancy dancy Office files.

 

If if they had been using Ubuntu they would not have been able to play

games or run some of the programs they most likely did.

 

Infected machines are infected for the same reason that the Ubuntu

install was compromised - STUPID PEOPLE. The idea of compromised

machines and securing them has been around for DECADES. Ways to protect

windows machines have been public for DECADES, and they work fine.

 

Every time I hear about a compromised machines, it's always because of a

STUPID USER - there are zillions of sites telling users how to secure

their machines and yet they ignore them, even when they listen to

radio/tv/printed news, they still ignore them.... Much the same thing

happened with the Admin did something stupid that compromised his Ubuntu

machine....

 

So, since your neighbors kids won't be able to play most of the popular

games it's a good bet that if you put Ubuntu on their computers that

they will be back in short order to get Windows reinstalled.

 

--

 

Leythos

- Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum.

- Calling an illegal alien an "undocumented worker" is like calling a

drug dealer an "unlicensed pharmacist"

spam999free@rrohio.com (remove 999 for proper email address)

In article <fbghp6$nkf$3@aioe.org>, iamalias@shoesgmail.com says...

> Leythos wrote:

> > In article <fbeo2m$u4b$1@aioe.org>, iamalias@shoesgmail.com says...

> >> Can you address the issues or merely try to shoot the messenger and miss

> >> every single time?

> >>

> >

> > You are the issue Alias - preaching that Ubuntu is the salvation for the

> > masses, yet you don't tell them about it's failings that keep you

> > running Windows.

>

> "Salvation for the masses"? Do you thing that a computer is a kind of

> god or something?

>

> >

> > That means that you are the issue, telling lies without concern,

> > screwing people that don't know any better.

> >

>

> I have, over and over again, said that Ubuntu isn't an OS the gaming

> industry is interested in. As it grows in popularity, that will change.

> I know you hate the fact that your god, Windows, is in the sunset of its

> life cycle and that Linux is the coming thing but maybe if you open your

> mind, you can live with it.

 

And yet you preach Ubuntu as the solution to the commoners problems and

fail to tell them what it won't do, while you keep running Windows...

 

Unlike you, while I run several O/S's, I'm not preaching that any of

them are the best solution for anyone - they each have strengths and

things they do better than others. Your failure is telling people that

your latest toy is the solution to all their problems without telling

them that they will have to keep running windows to do many common

things.

 

--

 

Leythos

- Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum.

- Calling an illegal alien an "undocumented worker" is like calling a

drug dealer an "unlicensed pharmacist"

spam999free@rrohio.com (remove 999 for proper email address)

In article <fbgia1$q8q$2@aioe.org>, iamalias@shoesgmail.com says...

> Leythos wrote:

> > In article <uBcoTRX7HHA.5012@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl>,

> > iamalias@shoesgmail.com. says...

> >> So, once again, it's a indisputable fact that WPA and WGA do NOTHING to

> >> stop piracy and ONLY inconvenience paying customers. Live with it. Oh, I

> >> forgot, you LIKE living with it :-)

> >

> > Wrong, it stopped Piracy, once the pirate was exposed the police were

> > able to stop him - without WPA/WGA it would never have been stopped.

> >

>

> Does this mean you are conceding all the other points I made that you

> snipped? One case where WGA worked does not stop piracy. Piracy is more

> rampant now than it was ten years ago.

 

No, I snipped what wasn't needed - WGA and WPA does work, just not a

complete solution, but it does stop piracy in many cases.

 

--

 

Leythos

- Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum.

- Calling an illegal alien an "undocumented worker" is like calling a

drug dealer an "unlicensed pharmacist"

spam999free@rrohio.com (remove 999 for proper email address)

Leythos wrote:

> In article <fbgh5f$m1n$1@aioe.org>, iamalias@shoesgmail.com says...

>> Leythos wrote:

>>> In article <fbfih4$6kj$1@aioe.org>, iamalias@shoesgmail.com says...

>>>> I'm not an "advocate". I am merely another user who is happy with Ubuntu

>>>> and wants to spread the good news because most people don't know about

>>>> it. Windows still has its uses.

>>> You are advocating that people switch to Ubuntu, you have done it many

>>> times in this group and the XP groups, but you failed, each time, to

>>> tell them that you continue to run Windows because Ubuntu doesn't

>>> provide all that you need. Funny thing is that you also failed to tell

>>> them that Windows does all that you need, you are just paranoid.

>>>

>>> So, windows does all that most users (home and corporate) need, in fact,

>>> it does more than Ubuntu can deliver. Fact is that home users would have

>>> to Dual Boot or have two computers if they listened to your Use Ubuntu,

>>> it's all you need and will be simple....

>>>

>> Yawn. When you get over the fact that I use both Ubuntu and XP, let me know.

>

> It's not that you use both that's at issue - it's that you tell people

> to switch to Ubuntu, that they don't need Windows, and yet, as a common,

> typical user, you can't abandon Windows any more than the people you

> tell to abandon it can...

>

 

Even if you're not a gamer, switching to Ubuntu is obviously the best

choice for everything except gaming. And, if you're like me, you'll use

Ubuntu for everything and have XP on a box for gaming until the gaming

folks wake up and start writing games for Linux.

 

NONE of the problems that provoked my recommending Ubuntu had *anything*

to do with gaming so, no, I am not a hypocrite except in your twisted mind.

 

I'm still waiting for to email me your fancy dancy Word .doc that you

claim won't work with Linux but I am not holding my breath.

 

--

Alias

To email me, remove shoes

Leythos wrote:

> In article <fbghi7$nkf$1@aioe.org>, iamalias@shoesgmail.com says...

>> Leythos wrote:

>>> In article <uFT77KX7HHA.464@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl>,

>>> iamalias@shoesgmail.com. says...

>>>> Just curious, why do you object to my using both systems, other than

>>>> your obsession with trying to oneupmanship me? I may buy a Mac just to

>>>> see how it is. Would that bother you too?

>>>>

>>>> I have never advised someone to switch to Ubuntu to play games. I have

>>>> advised it for safer surfing, no need for ninja hardware, etc,, but not

>>>> for gaming.

>>> I don't object to you using windows - I object to your BS mantra that

>>> Ubuntu does what most people need and they won't need windows - that it

>>> solves their problems....

>>>

>>> Clearly, just about any home with a computer also has at least one game

>>> on it, other than what was included, and that means that any home with

>>> kids in their teens, well, they just need Windows to play those games.

>>>

>>> Now, while Ubuntu is a good BOX for browsing, email, and some other

>>> common things, it does not give your average home with kids what they

>>> need.

>>>

>>> You seem to think that Mom and Dad are going to be able to manage a Dual

>>> Boot system when they don't need to, they just need Windows and a little

>>> education. As was already proven, a stupid Administrator, someone that

>>> should know better, compromised their Ubuntu installation - so it

>>> appears that all OS's need to have trained users.

>>>

>>> Now, you can preach that Ubuntu is for the masses, but it fails the one

>>> task - being a full replacement for something that already works.

>>>

>> Speaking of kids, a friend of mine just brought over a Windows XP

>> computer that her grandchild uses and it's, you guessed it, fully

>> infected. Had the kid been using Ubuntu, there would be no infections

>> and she wouldn't have to pay me to clean up the computer. Ubuntu is

>> going on this machine and, being as the kid doesn't have any Windows

>> games or any need for fancy dancy Word docs, no Windows.

>>

>> The neighbor upstairs also has a fully infected XP machine. So infected,

>> the AV was disabled, along with Spybot, Windows firewall and

>> Spywareguard. He is converting to an Ubuntu only machine because he

>> doesn't play games or have any need for fancy dancy Office files.

>

> If if they had been using Ubuntu they would not have been able to play

> games or run some of the programs they most likely did.

>

> Infected machines are infected for the same reason that the Ubuntu

> install was compromised - STUPID PEOPLE. The idea of compromised

> machines and securing them has been around for DECADES. Ways to protect

> windows machines have been public for DECADES, and they work fine.

>

> Every time I hear about a compromised machines, it's always because of a

> STUPID USER - there are zillions of sites telling users how to secure

> their machines and yet they ignore them, even when they listen to

> radio/tv/printed news, they still ignore them.... Much the same thing

> happened with the Admin did something stupid that compromised his Ubuntu

> machine....

>

> So, since your neighbors kids won't be able to play most of the popular

> games it's a good bet that if you put Ubuntu on their computers that

> they will be back in short order to get Windows reinstalled.

>

 

You don't know what the kid downloaded. The kid is eight and there are

plenty of games that come with Ubuntu that he will just love.

 

Oh, and it isn't "stupid" people but people who don't know any better.

 

--

Alias

To email me, remove shoes

Leythos wrote:

> In article <fbghp6$nkf$3@aioe.org>, iamalias@shoesgmail.com says...

>> Leythos wrote:

>>> In article <fbeo2m$u4b$1@aioe.org>, iamalias@shoesgmail.com says...

>>>> Can you address the issues or merely try to shoot the messenger and miss

>>>> every single time?

>>>>

>>> You are the issue Alias - preaching that Ubuntu is the salvation for the

>>> masses, yet you don't tell them about it's failings that keep you

>>> running Windows.

>> "Salvation for the masses"? Do you thing that a computer is a kind of

>> god or something?

>>

>>> That means that you are the issue, telling lies without concern,

>>> screwing people that don't know any better.

>>>

>> I have, over and over again, said that Ubuntu isn't an OS the gaming

>> industry is interested in. As it grows in popularity, that will change.

>> I know you hate the fact that your god, Windows, is in the sunset of its

>> life cycle and that Linux is the coming thing but maybe if you open your

>> mind, you can live with it.

>

> And yet you preach Ubuntu as the solution to the commoners problems and

> fail to tell them what it won't do, while you keep running Windows...

>

> Unlike you, while I run several O/S's, I'm not preaching that any of

> them are the best solution for anyone - they each have strengths and

> things they do better than others. Your failure is telling people that

> your latest toy is the solution to all their problems without telling

> them that they will have to keep running windows to do many common

> things.

>

 

Again, only games. Only games. Only games and, really, only some games.

 

--

Alias

To email me, remove shoes