there is vista ultimate: costs a load of money

 

and there is ubuntu ultimate 1.4

http://linuxtracker.org/torrents-details.php?id=4323

 

this version rocks! I downloaded the virtual appliance for vmware and gave

it a spin...

 

The thought is.. if you are going to run in 1000's problems with vista, why

not take the plunge and use ubuntu instead?...

 

IF vista was better I would never be saying this.. but vista is a flop of

historical proportions!!! Its horrible!

 

from a site: Ubuntu Ultimate 1.4 has been released and has a new thing in

store for you. Unlike any linux ever released this allows you to "build your

os" from a CD. Like linux you will love this... Windows users will think

twice... Compiz Fusion integrated.

 

I am now thinking about installing it on a hard drive as a non virtual

machine so I can see all the

3d desktop effects...

 

http://digg.com/linux_unix/Ubuntu_Ultimate_1_4_CD_Edition_Now_Available

 

the preinstalled vmware appliance that can be used with vmware player is

here:

 

http://www.tuxdistro.com/torrents-details.php?id=398#

Get lost. No one using Windows Vista wants an

Open Sores operating system with no support that

takes weeks to properly install. It would be like

going back to Windows 3.1!

Carey Frisch [MVP] wrote:

> Get lost. No one using Windows Vista wants an

> Open Sores operating system with no support that

> takes weeks to properly install. It would be like

> going back to Windows 3.1!

>

>

 

It takes under and hour to install Ubuntu with all the updates and

programs. The fact that the only way YOU know how to install an OS is to

buy it preinstalled, doesn't mean everyone is computer illiterate.

 

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On Wed, 29 Aug 2007 07:36:42 -0500, Carey Frisch [MVP] wrote:

> Get lost. No one using Windows Vista wants an

> Open Sores operating system with no support that

> takes weeks to properly install. It would be like

> going back to Windows 3.1!

 

Oh please. I can do a complete clean Ubuntu install in roughly 2-3 hours

and that includes every single piece of software, my C/C++ Development

environment, nVidia Drivers and assorted video codecs and DVD CSS support

and everything updated to the latest and greatest.

 

You're beyond exaggerating.

 

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Desktop 3D, Beryl, etc. i read a lot of linux desktop imporvement, and see

amazing videos, but im still stuck on vista .... i will try, have vista

installed about two months and this SO give pain, is XP with poor make up and

double of hardware requirements ...

 

"Alias" wrote:

> Carey Frisch [MVP] wrote:

> > Get lost. No one using Windows Vista wants an

> > Open Sores operating system with no support that

> > takes weeks to properly install. It would be like

> > going back to Windows 3.1!

> >

> >

>

> It takes under and hour to install Ubuntu with all the updates and

> programs. The fact that the only way YOU know how to install an OS is to

> buy it preinstalled, doesn't mean everyone is computer illiterate.

>

> --

> Alias

> To email me, remove shoes

>

If you wish, I can post all the links to your

previous posts a few months ago where

you yourself were asking a lot of questions

about installing Linux and expressed some of the difficulties

you encountered. Updates? There are now well over

200 updates for Linux distros after the initial install.

 

I don't think a rational person is going to chuck

Windows Vista (which they already paid for)

and install an alternative operating system that

may not be compatible with Windows-based

applications they already have.

 

P.S. I assemble my own computers. However, I did purchase

recently a nice HP Pavilion (refurb) because many folks

also purchase HP PCs and visit the Vista newsgroups

asking questions regarding HP products. Also, it was quite

cost effective compared to purchasing the same components

individually.

 

Can anyone today assemble a new PC with a modern ASUS MB,

AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual Core 3800+ CPU, 1GB RAM,

250GB Seagate SATA II HD designed w/Perpendicular Recording,

DVD writer w/Light Scribe, 9 in 1 memory reader, sleek new

case, power supply, keyboard, mouse, Roxio DVD writing software

and a full OEM version of Windows Vista Premium, for $369.00?

 

Compared to the P4 3.0GHz computer I assembled your years ago

and upgraded considerably for a total of $850, this new

HP performs exceptionally faster and is virtually silent while

in operation.

 

I have now installed a second SATA II hard drive and dual-boot with

Windows Vista Ultimate. I also installed another 1GB RAM

and a dedicated ATI Radeon HD 2600 PRO 512MB video card.

This HP Pavilion has had absolutely zero issues with Windows

Vista and I have now stopped using my old PC w/Windows XP.

 

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Microsoft MVP

Windows Shell/User

 

----------------------------------------------------------------------

 

"Alias" wrote:

It takes under and hour to install Ubuntu with all the updates and

programs. The fact that the only way YOU know how to install an OS is to

buy it preinstalled, doesn't mean everyone is computer illiterate.

 

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It may take under an hour to install that TOY OS called Ubuntu, but it will

get you nowhere unless you are a Geek like Alias

 

 

"Alias" <iamalias@shoesgmail.com> wrote in message

news:fb3so4$41r$1@aioe.org...

> Carey Frisch [MVP] wrote:

>> Get lost. No one using Windows Vista wants an

>> Open Sores operating system with no support that

>> takes weeks to properly install. It would be like

>> going back to Windows 3.1!

>>

>>

>

> It takes under and hour to install Ubuntu with all the updates and

> programs. The fact that the only way YOU know how to install an OS is to

> buy it preinstalled, doesn't mean everyone is computer illiterate.

>

> --

> Alias

> To email me, remove shoes

In article <HeednXPkfePp40jbnZ2dnUVZ8qLinZ2d@giganews.com>,

nospam.noway@screwspammers.com says...

> On Wed, 29 Aug 2007 07:36:42 -0500, Carey Frisch [MVP] wrote:

>

> > Get lost. No one using Windows Vista wants an

> > Open Sores operating system with no support that

> > takes weeks to properly install. It would be like

> > going back to Windows 3.1!

>

> Oh please. I can do a complete clean Ubuntu install in roughly 2-3 hours

> and that includes every single piece of software, my C/C++ Development

> environment, nVidia Drivers and assorted video codecs and DVD CSS support

> and everything updated to the latest and greatest.

>

> You're beyond exaggerating.

 

Yep, about the same amount of time for Linux and Windows alike, counting

updates and applications. The difference is that with Windows you're

more likely to be able to work with businesses than with Linux.

 

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Carey Frisch [MVP] wrote:

> If you wish, I can post all the links to your

> previous posts a few months ago where

> you yourself were asking a lot of questions

> about installing Linux and expressed some of the difficulties

> you encountered.

 

At first, I had questions as it was a new OS and those questions were

answered and I no longer have them.

> Updates? There are now well over

> 200 updates for Linux distros after the initial install.

 

It took me less than an hour to install the last time I did it,

including all the updates and programs. Installing XP on the same

computer took a couple of days.

>

> I don't think a rational person is going to chuck

> Windows Vista (which they already paid for)

> and install an alternative operating system that

> may not be compatible with Windows-based

> applications they already have.

 

I don't think a rational person would install Vista and have to

continually prove to Redmond that they didn't steal it.

>

> P.S. I assemble my own computers. However, I did purchase

> recently a nice HP Pavilion (refurb) because many folks

> also purchase HP PCs and visit the Vista newsgroups

> asking questions regarding HP products. Also, it was quite

> cost effective compared to purchasing the same components

> individually.

>

> Can anyone today assemble a new PC with a modern ASUS MB,

> AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual Core 3800+ CPU, 1GB RAM,

> 250GB Seagate SATA II HD designed w/Perpendicular Recording,

> DVD writer w/Light Scribe, 9 in 1 memory reader, sleek new

> case, power supply, keyboard, mouse, Roxio DVD writing software

> and a full OEM version of Windows Vista Premium, for $369.00?

>

> Compared to the P4 3.0GHz computer I assembled your years ago

> and upgraded considerably for a total of $850, this new

> HP performs exceptionally faster and is virtually silent while

> in operation.

>

> I have now installed a second SATA II hard drive and dual-boot with

> Windows Vista Ultimate. I also installed another 1GB RAM

> and a dedicated ATI Radeon HD 2600 PRO 512MB video card.

> This HP Pavilion has had absolutely zero issues with Windows

> Vista and I have now stopped using my old PC w/Windows XP.

>

 

Glad you're happy with HP. The only cheap computers I see here have

Vista Basic on them and, er, no thanks.

 

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Bill Yanaire wrote:

>

>

> "Alias" <iamalias@shoesgmail.com> wrote in message

> news:fb3so4$41r$1@aioe.org...

>> Carey Frisch [MVP] wrote:

>>> Get lost. No one using Windows Vista wants an

>>> Open Sores operating system with no support that

>>> takes weeks to properly install. It would be like

>>> going back to Windows 3.1!

>>>

>>>

>> It takes under and hour to install Ubuntu with all the updates and

>> programs. The fact that the only way YOU know how to install an OS is to

>> buy it preinstalled, doesn't mean everyone is computer illiterate.

> It may take under an hour to install that TOY OS called Ubuntu, but

it will

> get you nowhere unless you are a Geek like Alias

 

The old, worn out and tired "you need to be a geek to run Linux" is

soooo nineties. Ubuntu is ready for prime time and the peer-to-peer

support is much better than what the likes of you and Frank offer.

 

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In article <ej1$cvk6HHA.5752@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl>,

iamalias@shoesgmail.com. says...

> Carey Frisch [MVP] wrote:

> > If you wish, I can post all the links to your

> > previous posts a few months ago where

> > you yourself were asking a lot of questions

> > about installing Linux and expressed some of the difficulties

> > you encountered.

>

> At first, I had questions as it was a new OS and those questions were

> answered and I no longer have them.

 

LOL - and so now you're an expert?

> > Updates? There are now well over

> > 200 updates for Linux distros after the initial install.

>

> It took me less than an hour to install the last time I did it,

> including all the updates and programs. Installing XP on the same

> computer took a couple of days.

 

Bull, it takes the same time to install XP + Office as it does to

install Ubuntu + Open Office.

> > I don't think a rational person is going to chuck

> > Windows Vista (which they already paid for)

> > and install an alternative operating system that

> > may not be compatible with Windows-based

> > applications they already have.

>

> I don't think a rational person would install Vista and have to

> continually prove to Redmond that they didn't steal it.

 

And I don't think a rational person would install Linux and only have

access to limited applications and support and limited hardware support.

> > P.S. I assemble my own computers. However, I did purchase

> > recently a nice HP Pavilion (refurb) because many folks

> > also purchase HP PCs and visit the Vista newsgroups

> > asking questions regarding HP products. Also, it was quite

> > cost effective compared to purchasing the same components

> > individually.

> >

> > Can anyone today assemble a new PC with a modern ASUS MB,

> > AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual Core 3800+ CPU, 1GB RAM,

> > 250GB Seagate SATA II HD designed w/Perpendicular Recording,

> > DVD writer w/Light Scribe, 9 in 1 memory reader, sleek new

> > case, power supply, keyboard, mouse, Roxio DVD writing software

> > and a full OEM version of Windows Vista Premium, for $369.00?

> >

> > Compared to the P4 3.0GHz computer I assembled your years ago

> > and upgraded considerably for a total of $850, this new

> > HP performs exceptionally faster and is virtually silent while

> > in operation.

> >

> > I have now installed a second SATA II hard drive and dual-boot with

> > Windows Vista Ultimate. I also installed another 1GB RAM

> > and a dedicated ATI Radeon HD 2600 PRO 512MB video card.

> > This HP Pavilion has had absolutely zero issues with Windows

> > Vista and I have now stopped using my old PC w/Windows XP.

> >

>

> Glad you're happy with HP. The only cheap computers I see here have

> Vista Basic on them and, er, no thanks.

 

And you were complaining for months about Vista without even owning it.

 

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Leythos wrote:

> In article <ej1$cvk6HHA.5752@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl>,

> iamalias@shoesgmail.com. says...

>> Carey Frisch [MVP] wrote:

>>> If you wish, I can post all the links to your

>>> previous posts a few months ago where

>>> you yourself were asking a lot of questions

>>> about installing Linux and expressed some of the difficulties

>>> you encountered.

>> At first, I had questions as it was a new OS and those questions were

>> answered and I no longer have them.

>

> LOL - and so now you're an expert?

>

>>> Updates? There are now well over

>>> 200 updates for Linux distros after the initial install.

>> It took me less than an hour to install the last time I did it,

>> including all the updates and programs. Installing XP on the same

>> computer took a couple of days.

>

> Bull, it takes the same time to install XP + Office as it does to

> install Ubuntu + Open Office.

 

Bullsh¡t.

>

>>> I don't think a rational person is going to chuck

>>> Windows Vista (which they already paid for)

>>> and install an alternative operating system that

>>> may not be compatible with Windows-based

>>> applications they already have.

>> I don't think a rational person would install Vista and have to

>> continually prove to Redmond that they didn't steal it.

>

> And I don't think a rational person would install Linux and only have

> access to limited applications and support and limited hardware support.

 

We know how you think and it ain't rational.

>

>>> P.S. I assemble my own computers. However, I did purchase

>>> recently a nice HP Pavilion (refurb) because many folks

>>> also purchase HP PCs and visit the Vista newsgroups

>>> asking questions regarding HP products. Also, it was quite

>>> cost effective compared to purchasing the same components

>>> individually.

>>>

>>> Can anyone today assemble a new PC with a modern ASUS MB,

>>> AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual Core 3800+ CPU, 1GB RAM,

>>> 250GB Seagate SATA II HD designed w/Perpendicular Recording,

>>> DVD writer w/Light Scribe, 9 in 1 memory reader, sleek new

>>> case, power supply, keyboard, mouse, Roxio DVD writing software

>>> and a full OEM version of Windows Vista Premium, for $369.00?

>>>

>>> Compared to the P4 3.0GHz computer I assembled your years ago

>>> and upgraded considerably for a total of $850, this new

>>> HP performs exceptionally faster and is virtually silent while

>>> in operation.

>>>

>>> I have now installed a second SATA II hard drive and dual-boot with

>>> Windows Vista Ultimate. I also installed another 1GB RAM

>>> and a dedicated ATI Radeon HD 2600 PRO 512MB video card.

>>> This HP Pavilion has had absolutely zero issues with Windows

>>> Vista and I have now stopped using my old PC w/Windows XP.

>>>

>> Glad you're happy with HP. The only cheap computers I see here have

>> Vista Basic on them and, er, no thanks.

>

> And you were complaining for months about Vista without even owning it.

>

 

One doesn't have to jump off a ten story building to know it isn't a

good idea.

 

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In article <#nrAI6k6HHA.3940@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl>,

iamalias@shoesgmail.com. says...

> > Bull, it takes the same time to install XP + Office as it does to

> > install Ubuntu + Open Office.

>

> Bullsh¡t.

 

Anyone that's actually done it knows you're wrong Alias. It's the same

amount of time, close enough to not notice the difference.

 

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Leythos wrote:

> In article <#nrAI6k6HHA.3940@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl>,

> iamalias@shoesgmail.com. says...

>>> Bull, it takes the same time to install XP + Office as it does to

>>> install Ubuntu + Open Office.

>> Bullsh¡t.

>

> Anyone that's actually done it knows you're wrong Alias. It's the same

> amount of time, close enough to not notice the difference.

>

 

Bullsh¡t.

 

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To email me, remove shoes

Alias wrote:

>

> One doesn't have to jump off a ten story building to know it isn't a

> good idea.

>

 

You have a degree of sheer stupidity about you that is simply astounding!

We cornered your ignorant ass many times over the fact that you did not

have Vista installed...finally you claimed that you "played" with it in

department store so you knew what it was all about.

You are the true, unabridged definition of a troll right down to your

constant denials and lies.

Frank

Alias wrote:

> Leythos wrote:

>

>> In article <#nrAI6k6HHA.3940@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl>,

>> iamalias@shoesgmail.com. says...

>>

>>>> Bull, it takes the same time to install XP + Office as it does to

>>>> install Ubuntu + Open Office.

>>>

>>> Bullsh¡t.

>>

>>

>> Anyone that's actually done it knows you're wrong Alias. It's the same

>> amount of time, close enough to not notice the difference.

>>

>

> Bullsh¡t.

>

hehehe...no bs...you haven't installed Vista so you really don't know.

Please stop your incessant lying. Be a man, not the fukkin wimp you

currently are, ok?

Frank

Alias wrote:

 

>

> The old, worn out and tired "you need to be a geek to run Linux" is

> soooo nineties. Ubuntu is ready for prime time and the peer-to-peer

> support is much better than what the likes of you and Frank offer.

>

 

If linux is so great (as you claim), then why are you here?

Frank

Frank wrote:

> Alias wrote:

>

>>

>> One doesn't have to jump off a ten story building to know it isn't a

>> good idea.

>>

>

> You have a degree of sheer stupidity about you that is simply astounding!

> We cornered your ignorant ass many times over the fact that you did not

> have Vista installed...finally you claimed that you "played" with it in

> department store so you knew what it was all about.

> You are the true, unabridged definition of a troll right down to your

> constant denials and lies.

> Frank

 

Can't understand the analogy, eh? Gotta change the subject to your

twisted and lying fantasies about me, eh? How lame can you get?

 

I bought Vista Ultimate and, no, I am not impressed. It's a POS compared

to Ubuntu or XP for that matter.

 

Here's an expert's opinion of Vista:

 

http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasic&articleId=9000173&intsrc=hm_list

 

The Vista I have will remain unused until at least six months after the

release of SP1, if then.

 

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Frank wrote:

> Alias wrote:

>

>> Leythos wrote:

>>

>>> In article <#nrAI6k6HHA.3940@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl>,

>>> iamalias@shoesgmail.com. says...

>>>

>>>>> Bull, it takes the same time to install XP + Office as it does to

>>>>> install Ubuntu + Open Office.

>>>>

>>>> Bullsh¡t.

>>>

>>>

>>> Anyone that's actually done it knows you're wrong Alias. It's the

>>> same amount of time, close enough to not notice the difference.

>>>

>>

>> Bullsh¡t.

>>

> hehehe...no bs...you haven't installed Vista so you really don't know.

> Please stop your incessant lying. Be a man, not the fukkin wimp you

> currently are, ok?

> Frank

 

You really have a reading comprehension problem, don't you? We were

comparing installing *XP* and Ubuntu, not Vista, you dumbfuçk.

 

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Frank wrote:

> Alias wrote:

>

>

>>

>> The old, worn out and tired "you need to be a geek to run Linux" is

>> soooo nineties. Ubuntu is ready for prime time and the peer-to-peer

>> support is much better than what the likes of you and Frank offer.

>>

>

> If linux is so great (as you claim), then why are you here?

> Frank

 

As you well know, to spread the good news about Ubuntu, of course. It's

an altruistic act on my part and you should be grateful.

 

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Leythos wrote:

> In article <ej1$cvk6HHA.5752@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl>,

> iamalias@shoesgmail.com. says...

>> Carey Frisch [MVP] wrote:

>> > If you wish, I can post all the links to your

>> > previous posts a few months ago where

>> > you yourself were asking a lot of questions

>> > about installing Linux and expressed some of the difficulties

>> > you encountered.

>>

>> At first, I had questions as it was a new OS and those questions were

>> answered and I no longer have them.

>

> LOL - and so now you're an expert?

>

>> > Updates? There are now well over

>> > 200 updates for Linux distros after the initial install.

>>

>> It took me less than an hour to install the last time I did it,

>> including all the updates and programs. Installing XP on the same

>> computer took a couple of days.

>

> Bull, it takes the same time to install XP + Office as it does to

> install Ubuntu + Open Office.

>

Now you prove you're full of bull!

>> > I don't think a rational person is going to chuck

>> > Windows Vista (which they already paid for)

>> > and install an alternative operating system that

>> > may not be compatible with Windows-based

>> > applications they already have.

>>

>> I don't think a rational person would install Vista and have to

>> continually prove to Redmond that they didn't steal it.

>

> And I don't think a rational person would install Linux and only have

> access to limited applications and support and limited hardware support.

>

Linux supports more hardware than Vista does. Unlike Vista, Linux continues

and will continue to support legacy hardware, along with being able to run

on different platforms.

 

Cheers.

 

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On Wed, 29 Aug 2007 10:49:03 -0400, Leythos wrote:

> In article <HeednXPkfePp40jbnZ2dnUVZ8qLinZ2d@giganews.com>,

> nospam.noway@screwspammers.com says...

>> On Wed, 29 Aug 2007 07:36:42 -0500, Carey Frisch [MVP] wrote:

>>

>> > Get lost. No one using Windows Vista wants an

>> > Open Sores operating system with no support that

>> > takes weeks to properly install. It would be like

>> > going back to Windows 3.1!

>>

>> Oh please. I can do a complete clean Ubuntu install in roughly 2-3 hours

>> and that includes every single piece of software, my C/C++ Development

>> environment, nVidia Drivers and assorted video codecs and DVD CSS support

>> and everything updated to the latest and greatest.

>>

>> You're beyond exaggerating.

>

> Yep, about the same amount of time for Linux and Windows alike, counting

> updates and applications. The difference is that with Windows you're

> more likely to be able to work with businesses than with Linux.

>

 

Depends largely on what you do. In some areas yes, in other areas no. I

honestly have to say that when it comes to writing software, and I am a

programmer for a living after all, I wouldn't want to use Windows as my

primary OS anymore (among a long list of other things).

 

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On Wed, 29 Aug 2007 09:51:08 -0700, Frank <fb@nospan.crm> wrote:

>Alias wrote:

>

>>

>> One doesn't have to jump off a ten story building to know it isn't a

>> good idea.

>>

>

>You have a degree of sheer stupidity about you that is simply astounding!

>We cornered your ignorant ass many times over the fact that you did not

>have Vista installed...finally you claimed that you "played" with it in

>department store so you knew what it was all about.

>You are the true, unabridged definition of a troll right down to your

>constant denials and lies.

>Frank

 

You don't have to buy a car to know how it drives dumbass. Write this

down for future reference: Most car dealers allow a test drive. Of

course you may be the exception, since I would suspect you come into a

showroom wild eyed and foaming from the mouth and probably start

screaming and stamping your feet.

 

Playing with Vista in a store while not the idea test does give you a

feel for how it performs. Surely more than some bozo like you taking

it home and using it to read email and surf the web which if the truth

be known is all a dummy like you is capable of doing on a computer and

only after many failed attempts. You're a fraud Frank. I know it and

so does everyone else.

 

LOL!

On Wed, 29 Aug 2007 09:25:32 -0500, Carey Frisch [MVP] wrote:

> If you wish, I can post all the links to your

> previous posts a few months ago where

> you yourself were asking a lot of questions

> about installing Linux and expressed some of the difficulties

> you encountered. Updates? There are now well over

> 200 updates for Linux distros after the initial install.

 

Yes I'm well aware of the difficulties I encountered. I was a beginner who

had never touched Linux ever in his life before. Of course I encountered

difficulties. To expect otherwise would be delusional.

 

You seriously think that a beginner who has *never* used Windows is going

to install, and fully configure Windows in under 3 hours including device

drivers and everything? If you truly believe that, then I honestly have to

say you are delusional.

 

An experienced windows user? Sure. A beginner? No.

 

Same deal with Ubuntu.

 

An experienced Linux user? No problem. A beginner? Likely to run into some

issues.

 

So what's your point?

 

You may know about my very first Ubuntu install and the problems I

experienced. You don't know about the subsequent additional installs

that were problem free since I had no questions to ask. =)

>

> I don't think a rational person is going to chuck

> Windows Vista (which they already paid for)

> and install an alternative operating system that

> may not be compatible with Windows-based

> applications they already have.

 

May not? Will not! Linux is NOT windows for crying out loud! It is NOT

supposed to be! It is supposed to be different! That is the point! If

someone wants Windows, they need to friggin USE WINDOWS!!! Is that so

exceedingly difficult to comprehend?

 

So no, it does not run windows software and nobody should expect it to.

 

I really don't get the Windows zealots who think everyone should run

Windows and Linux shouldn't exist as much as I don't get the Linux zealots

who think the opposite way around.

 

I personally couldn't give a flying rats ass what operating system someone

runs. I really don't care. I care about *my own* needs and what OS meets

said needs the best. Period. For most my needs, it isn't windows...any

version of it. For the few remaining 5% or less, I keep windows around as

a dual boot.

 

Just because it is that way for me, does not mean it is that way for

someone else. Perfectly fine as far as I am concerned. Not my problem.

>

> P.S. I assemble my own computers. However, I did purchase

> recently a nice HP Pavilion (refurb) because many folks

> also purchase HP PCs and visit the Vista newsgroups

> asking questions regarding HP products. Also, it was quite

> cost effective compared to purchasing the same components

> individually.

>

> Can anyone today assemble a new PC with a modern ASUS MB,

> AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual Core 3800+ CPU, 1GB RAM,

> 250GB Seagate SATA II HD designed w/Perpendicular Recording,

> DVD writer w/Light Scribe, 9 in 1 memory reader, sleek new

> case, power supply, keyboard, mouse, Roxio DVD writing software

> and a full OEM version of Windows Vista Premium, for $369.00?

 

No but then again you did purchase a refurb so it'll be virtually

impossible for anyone to meet the price of a refurb without stealing the

components. Also companies like HP buy their components in bulk so they

get pricing deals that individuals could never hope to get.

 

I personally can generally meet or beat new-system prices of systems such

as that Dell and HP produce when it comes to high-end systems since their

high end systems are generally configured in ways that are just stupid and

ridiculous.

 

Low-end or mid-range systems though, it gets tough to impossible as I

could never compete against the volume prices those manufacturers get.

 

--

Stephan

2003 Yamaha R6

 

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"Alias" <iamalias@shoesgmail.com> wrote in message

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> Frank wrote:

>> Alias wrote:

>>

>>

>>>

>>> The old, worn out and tired "you need to be a geek to run Linux" is

>>> soooo nineties. Ubuntu is ready for prime time and the peer-to-peer

>>> support is much better than what the likes of you and Frank offer.

>>>

>>

>> If linux is so great (as you claim), then why are you here?

>> Frank

>

> As you well know, to spread the good news about Ubuntu, of course. It's an

> altruistic act on my part and you should be grateful.

>

 

The only thing I'd like to spread is LEGS. Female of course. Ubuntu is

just a boil on the ass of society.

 

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> Alias

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