On Sat, 25 Aug 2007 19:24:21 -0400, MICHAEL <u158627_emr2@dslr.net>

wrote:

>> They have no backups? No system for on the fly replacement? No redundancy?

 

When told about this major blunder this was Ballmer's immediate

response:

Saucy wrote:

> "Adam Albright" <AA@ABC.net> wrote in message

> news:8lr0d3dmm69dpuv2fsuq2tm9akql32bnos@4ax.com...

>> On Sat, 25 Aug 2007 13:54:40 -0400, Tom Porterfield

>> <tpporter@mvps.org> wrote:

>>

>>>Reported here and elsewhere, it appears the WGA server is down and any

>>>attempts to validate will fail, leading Vista to think it is not a valid

>>>license and disable a number of features in the OS include Aero.

>>>

>>>My recommendation is that you DO NOT do anything that would cause Vista

>>>to attempt to validate, such as downloading software from MS that

>>>requires validation.

>>>

>>>WGA critics, let's here what you have to say.

>>

>> I hate to be one that says I told you so. Again, Microsoft proves to

>> the world that it is totally incompetent. For a company as large as

>> Microsoft considering WHAT their business is to have servers go down

>> and impact probably tens of millions if not more customers world wide

>> due to their lax security and utter stupidity and remain that way for

>> more than a few minutes is laughable in the extreme. What are they

>> saying now, check back on Tuesday?

>>

>> I have no idea where Billy G is in the world at the moment, rest

>> assured alarm bells are going off in Redmond and he's sweating bullets

>> and probably screaming his lungs off at somebody for this latest

>> disaster. This is one of if not the biggest blunders in Microsoft's

>> checkered history and it will cost them big time in lost creditability

>> and respect and surely will increase anger towards them AND IT SHOULD!

>>

>> It too should be the death knell for all kinds of half-ass activation

>> schemes that Microsoft and everybody else knows doesn't stop hackers

>> or pirates in the first place, but it won't be. As usual, it is Joe

>> six pack that suffers because of Microsoft arrogance and stupidity.

>>

>> This space reserved for idiots like Frank to squeal it isn't

>> Microsoft's fault.

>>

>> Reserved for Frank to make an ass of himself ====>

>>

>>

>>

>

>

> It is a bit of an alarm bell. The activation strategy needs to be

> reconsidered, of course, but only to some degree.

>

> I *think* the problem is that after detecting a non-valid install [even

> errorneously] reduced functionality kicks in.

>

> They shouldn't be so fast. A good substantial time period needs to exist

> .. perhaps a month .. *but at least a week* .. before anything at all save

> a message box occurs. This would preclude events such as has occured this

> weekend. I'm very surprised validation works so quickly against perceived

> violators. It works much too fast [considering all the room for error][and

> as this weekend has shown].

>

> Saucy

 

Plus the fact that Microsoft has stated it's prepared to wait for years

while the Chinese decide whether they want to start using legit copies of

Microsoft's toy operating system.

 

Cheers.

 

--

Remove Vista Activation Completely ...

http://tinyurl.com/2w8qqo

keepout@yahoo.com.invalid wrote:

> I'm just curious as to how many errors and problems existed with pencils and

> type writers compared to the PROGRESS we now enjoy, spending 75% of the time

> keeping the OS from self destructing ?

> At worst a pencil sharpener or 2nd pencil would keep work from coming to a 3

> day stand still while someone finds another box of pencils.

 

That's a keeper, hilarious.

 

http://www.c4vct.com/kym/humor/nasapen.htm

Adam Albright wrote:

> On Sat, 25 Aug 2007 23:24:19 +0100, "dennis@home"

> <dennis@killspam.kicks-ass.net> wrote:

>

>>

>>"Stephan Rose" <nospam@spammer.com> wrote in message

>>news:4dOdnSTt7dgVF03bnZ2dneKdnZzinZ2d@giganews.com...

>>

>>> One question for you though. Why should it EVER need to talk to any

>>> server in the first place?

>>>

>>> Example, my father likes model railroads. In his house, the entire attic

>>> is one giant model railroad in progress. Not sure on the exact size but

>>> 1,000 sqft isn't unthinkable and I am probably too small here.

>>>

>>> Now to control all this, these days, you generally need a PC and a

>>> windows PC at that as most software is windows based.

>>>

>>> Said PC however does *not* need an internet connection (nor is there one

>>> available up there). All it needs to do is run one program that controls

>>> a bunch of trains.

>>>

>>> So how would *that* fare with Vista? He actually asked me this today

>>> seeing how most PCs one buys today are sold with Vista and I had no

>>> answer.

>>>

>>> I would actually really like to know though how Vista deals with a PC

>>> that doesn't have an internet connection with its WPA/WGA stuff.

>>>

>>

>>

>>Well my Samsung comes with a pre-activated Vista.

>>No need to ever call M$ unless you need an update, even after a reinstall

>>from the dvd

>>I expect many others are like this.

>

> You are missing the point. Vista "phones home" randomly on it's own

> behind your back. That is how you can get tagged as counterfeit.

 

Why are you telling dennis this? He already claims to be an expert and knows

everything there is to know about computers. Heck, he just finished

lecturing me about how knowledgeable he is. Surely he's aware that Vista

phones home.

 

Cheers.

 

--

Remove Vista Activation Completely ...

http://tinyurl.com/2w8qqo

MICHAEL wrote:

> * Charlie Tame:

>> Tom Porterfield wrote:

>>> Reported here and elsewhere, it appears the WGA server is down and any

>>> attempts to validate will fail, leading Vista to think it is not a valid

>>> license and disable a number of features in the OS include Aero.

>>>

>>> My recommendation is that you DO NOT do anything that would cause Vista

>>> to attempt to validate, such as downloading software from MS that

>>> requires validation.

>>>

>>> WGA critics, let's here what you have to say.

>>

>> Nothing much, it wasn't "If" but "When".

>>

>> You might add turn off auto updating completely, thereby leaving

>> yourself vulnerable to any zero day exploits, but of course (Hopefully)

>> preventing Microsoft's own zero day exploit.

>>

>> Do NOT turn your machine off at all if you don't have to.

>>

>> MS CANNOT MANAGE ONE SERVER!

>>

>> Why in hell would anyone entrust their business to such a ramshackle

>> organization that cannot fix one server "Until Monday".

>>

>>

>> They have no backups? No system for on the fly replacement? No redundancy?

>

> Exactly!

>

>> Something stinks here, badly.

>

> Worse than my critters crap baking in the back yard.

>

>

> -Michael

 

 

I hope you don't mind if I decline the offer to personally validate that

statement. :)

* Charlie Tame:

> MICHAEL wrote:

>> * Charlie Tame:

>>> Tom Porterfield wrote:

>>>> Reported here and elsewhere, it appears the WGA server is down and any

>>>> attempts to validate will fail, leading Vista to think it is not a valid

>>>> license and disable a number of features in the OS include Aero.

>>>>

>>>> My recommendation is that you DO NOT do anything that would cause Vista

>>>> to attempt to validate, such as downloading software from MS that

>>>> requires validation.

>>>>

>>>> WGA critics, let's here what you have to say.

>>> Nothing much, it wasn't "If" but "When".

>>>

>>> You might add turn off auto updating completely, thereby leaving

>>> yourself vulnerable to any zero day exploits, but of course (Hopefully)

>>> preventing Microsoft's own zero day exploit.

>>>

>>> Do NOT turn your machine off at all if you don't have to.

>>>

>>> MS CANNOT MANAGE ONE SERVER!

>>>

>>> Why in hell would anyone entrust their business to such a ramshackle

>>> organization that cannot fix one server "Until Monday".

>>>

>>>

>>> They have no backups? No system for on the fly replacement? No redundancy?

>> Exactly!

>>

>>> Something stinks here, badly.

>> Worse than my critters crap baking in the back yard.

>>

>>

>> -Michael

>

>

> I hope you don't mind if I decline the offer to personally validate that

> statement. :)

 

I completely understand. -)

 

Tomorrow is a poop scoop day, I try to scoop the poop

every few days. It's been close to a hundred over the last

few days, I'm sure the poop dumps have fermented well. -)

One lab, one lab-boxer mix, and one german shepherd can

lay a few bombs. :-) They're inside dogs so they've been

spared the heat.

Actually, it's been the hottest and driest month ever here in

Charlotte. 11 or 12 100+ degree days, and we tied our

all-time high of 104, *twice*, on back to back days. I think

we've also set about 8 or 9 high lows overnight. Been hot, my friend.

And less than a half inch of rain.

 

Funny thing, June and July were below normal, with a few record

breaking lows during June. Payback is a b!tch.

 

Take care,

 

Michael

Adam Albright wrote:

> On Sat, 25 Aug 2007 19:24:21 -0400, MICHAEL <u158627_emr2@dslr.net>

> wrote:

>

>

>>>They have no backups? No system for on the fly replacement? No redundancy?

>

>

> When told about this major blunder this was Ballmer's immediate

> response:

>

 

More family vids?

What a creepy bunch of losers you are.

Frank

NoStop wrote:

> Adam Albright wrote:

>

>

>>On Sat, 25 Aug 2007 23:24:19 +0100, "dennis@home"

>><dennis@killspam.kicks-ass.net> wrote:

>>

>>

>>>"Stephan Rose" <nospam@spammer.com> wrote in message

>>>news:4dOdnSTt7dgVF03bnZ2dneKdnZzinZ2d@giganews.com...

>>>

>>>

>>>>One question for you though. Why should it EVER need to talk to any

>>>>server in the first place?

>>>>

>>>>Example, my father likes model railroads. In his house, the entire attic

>>>>is one giant model railroad in progress. Not sure on the exact size but

>>>>1,000 sqft isn't unthinkable and I am probably too small here.

>>>>

>>>>Now to control all this, these days, you generally need a PC and a

>>>>windows PC at that as most software is windows based.

>>>>

>>>>Said PC however does *not* need an internet connection (nor is there one

>>>>available up there). All it needs to do is run one program that controls

>>>>a bunch of trains.

>>>>

>>>>So how would *that* fare with Vista? He actually asked me this today

>>>>seeing how most PCs one buys today are sold with Vista and I had no

>>>>answer.

>>>>

>>>>I would actually really like to know though how Vista deals with a PC

>>>>that doesn't have an internet connection with its WPA/WGA stuff.

>>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>Well my Samsung comes with a pre-activated Vista.

>>>No need to ever call M$ unless you need an update, even after a reinstall

>>

>>>from the dvd

>>

>>>I expect many others are like this.

>>

>>You are missing the point. Vista "phones home" randomly on it's own

>>behind your back. That is how you can get tagged as counterfeit.

>

>

> Why are you telling dennis this? He already claims to be an expert and knows

> everything there is to know about computers. Heck, he just finished

> lecturing me about how knowledgeable he is. Surely he's aware that Vista

> phones home.

>

> Cheers.

>

Doris Day!

Get lost ok.

Frank

On Sat, 25 Aug 2007 21:05:11 -0500, Charlie Tame <charlie@tames.net>

wrote:

>keepout@yahoo.com.invalid wrote:

>

>> I'm just curious as to how many errors and problems existed with pencils and

>> type writers compared to the PROGRESS we now enjoy, spending 75% of the time

>> keeping the OS from self destructing ?

>> At worst a pencil sharpener or 2nd pencil would keep work from coming to a 3

>> day stand still while someone finds another box of pencils.

>

>That's a keeper, hilarious.

>

>http://www.c4vct.com/kym/humor/nasapen.htm

 

Wait a second... that was the era of whiteout. You had to shake the

little bottle, hope it wasn't all dried up or clumped, hope you could

get the cap off, then carefully dab it on the typo, wait and wait for

it to dry, blow on it, wait some more, then try to type over it and

wish you would have waited longer. Worse, if you didn't wait long

enough and made a photocopy on the clunky copy machines of the era the

heat may melt the correction fluid if it was fully dried and get it on

the screen of the copy machine.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Correction_fluid

 

Then before than there was the correction cartridges you had to put in

typewriters and fix typos that way. They used jammed.

On Sat, 25 Aug 2007 19:43:11 -0700, Frank <fb@nospaner.cnm> wrote:

>Adam Albright wrote:

>

>> On Sat, 25 Aug 2007 19:24:21 -0400, MICHAEL <u158627_emr2@dslr.net>

>> wrote:

>>

>>

>>>>They have no backups? No system for on the fly replacement? No redundancy?

>>

>>

>> When told about this major blunder this was Ballmer's immediate

>> response:

>>

>

>More family vids?

>What a creepy bunch of losers you are.

>Frank

 

What's the matter, Ballmer's your boy Frankie being Microsoft's CEO.

You should love him, he acts just as nuts as you do and since you're

such a Microsoft fan how come you're too stupid to know who's running

the show?

Adam Albright wrote:

> On Sat, 25 Aug 2007 19:43:11 -0700, Frank <fb@nospaner.cnm> wrote:

>

>> Adam Albright wrote:

>>

>>> On Sat, 25 Aug 2007 19:24:21 -0400, MICHAEL <u158627_emr2@dslr.net>

>>> wrote:

>>>

>>>

>>>>> They have no backups? No system for on the fly replacement? No redundancy?

>>>

>>> When told about this major blunder this was Ballmer's immediate

>>> response:

>>>

>> More family vids?

>> What a creepy bunch of losers you are.

>> Frank

>

> What's the matter? Frankie, I want you to be my boy. I love you, Yes, I do

> do, do and do love you. I am bigger *nut* then even you thought I was, Frankie.

> I am such a flaming old man, but I love you Frankie. I want you, and I

> want you. It's my world Frankie and you just live in it.

>

Adam Albright wrote:

 

>

> What's the matter, Ballmer's your boy Frankie being Microsoft's CEO.

> You should love him, he acts just as nuts as you do and since you're

> such a Microsoft fan how come you're too stupid to know who's running

> the show?

>

You're really jealous of Ballmer aren't you? He's a billionaire you know.

That seems to really fry up your stupid ass doesn't it.

Live with it you idiot!

Frank

Frank wrote:

> Adam Albright wrote:

>

>

>>

>> What's the matter, Ballmer's your boy Frankie being Microsoft's CEO.

>> You should love him, he acts just as nuts as you do and since you're

>> such a Microsoft fan how come you're too stupid to know who's running

>> the show?

>>

> You're really jealous of Ballmer aren't you? He's a billionaire you know.

> That seems to really fry up your stupid ass doesn't it.

> Live with it you idiot!

> Frank

 

There are some things that money just can't fix and one of them is Steve

Ballmer. You're another.

 

--

Alias

To email me, remove shoes

Alias wrote:

> Frank wrote:

>> Adam Albright wrote:

>>

>>

>>>

>>> What's the matter, Ballmer's your boy Frankie being Microsoft's CEO.

>>> You should love him, he acts just as nuts as you do and since you're

>>> such a Microsoft fan how come you're too stupid to know who's running

>>> the show?

>>>

>> You're really jealous of Ballmer aren't you? He's a billionaire you know.

>> That seems to really fry up your stupid ass doesn't it.

>> Live with it you idiot!

>> Frank

>

> There are some things that money just can't fix and one of them is Steve

> Ballmer. You're another.

>

 

<The pot calling the kettle black. :)>

Adam What Is He Albright wrote:

> Alias wrote:

>> Frank wrote:

>>> Adam Albright wrote:

>>>

>>>

>>>>

>>>> What's the matter, Ballmer's your boy Frankie being Microsoft's CEO.

>>>> You should love him, he acts just as nuts as you do and since you're

>>>> such a Microsoft fan how come you're too stupid to know who's running

>>>> the show?

>>>>

>>> You're really jealous of Ballmer aren't you? He's a billionaire you

>>> know.

>>> That seems to really fry up your stupid ass doesn't it.

>>> Live with it you idiot!

>>> Frank

>>

>> There are some things that money just can't fix and one of them is

>> Steve Ballmer. You're another.

>>

>

> <The pot calling the kettle black. :)>

 

You're another.

 

--

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To email me, remove shoes

On Sat, 25 Aug 2007 22:58:14 -0700, Frank <fb@nospaner.cnm> wrote:

>Adam Albright wrote:

>

>

>>

>> What's the matter, Ballmer's your boy Frankie being Microsoft's CEO.

>> You should love him, he acts just as nuts as you do and since you're

>> such a Microsoft fan how come you're too stupid to know who's running

>> the show?

>>

>You're really jealous of Ballmer aren't you? He's a billionaire you know.

>That seems to really fry up your stupid ass doesn't it.

>Live with it you idiot!

>Frank

 

Jealous of Ballmer? No embarrassed such an obvious idiot is in charge

of one of the biggest American corporations. Does kind of explain a

lot about what's wrong with Microsoft though.

 

Let Steve Jobs explain it to you.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WfALGcDNEDw

Adam Albright wrote:

> On Sat, 25 Aug 2007 22:58:14 -0700, Frank <fb@nospaner.cnm> wrote:

>

>> Adam Albright wrote:

>>

>>

>>> What's the matter, Ballmer's your boy Frankie being Microsoft's CEO.

>>> You should love him, he acts just as nuts as you do and since you're

>>> such a Microsoft fan how come you're too stupid to know who's running

>>> the show?

>>>

>> You're really jealous of Ballmer aren't you? He's a billionaire you know.

>> That seems to really fry up your stupid ass doesn't it.

>> Live with it you idiot!

>> Frank

>

> Jealous of Ballmer? No embarrassed such an obvious idiot is in charge

> of one of the biggest American corporations. Does kind of explain a

> lot about what's wrong with Microsoft though.

>

> Let Steve Jobs explain it to you.

>

> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WfALGcDNEDw

>

 

<You really are pathetic. You're as old as your daddy's coffin dirt

acting a old *fool* out here on the Internet.>

Isn't it time for Ubuntu?

 

Isn't it time to talk about the benefits of Ubuntu?

 

 

"Alias" <iamalias@shoesgmail.com> wrote in message

news:farkjn$11v$1@aioe.org...

> Adam What Is He Albright wrote:

>> Alias wrote:

>>> Frank wrote:

>>>> Adam Albright wrote:

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>> What's the matter, Ballmer's your boy Frankie being Microsoft's CEO.

>>>>> You should love him, he acts just as nuts as you do and since you're

>>>>> such a Microsoft fan how come you're too stupid to know who's running

>>>>> the show?

>>>>>

>>>> You're really jealous of Ballmer aren't you? He's a billionaire you

>>>> know.

>>>> That seems to really fry up your stupid ass doesn't it.

>>>> Live with it you idiot!

>>>> Frank

>>>

>>> There are some things that money just can't fix and one of them is Steve

>>> Ballmer. You're another.

>>>

>>

>> <The pot calling the kettle black. :)>

>

> You're another.

>

> --

> Alias

> To email me, remove shoes

Re: Isn't it time for you to shove Ubuntu?

 

Spanky deMonkey wrote:

> Isn't it time to talk about the benefits of Ubuntu?

>

>

> "Alias" <iamalias@shoesgmail.com> wrote in message

> news:farkjn$11v$1@aioe.org...

>> Adam What Is He Albright wrote:

>>> Alias wrote:

>>>> Frank wrote:

>>>>> Adam Albright wrote:

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>> What's the matter, Ballmer's your boy Frankie being Microsoft's CEO.

>>>>>> You should love him, he acts just as nuts as you do and since you're

>>>>>> such a Microsoft fan how come you're too stupid to know who's running

>>>>>> the show?

>>>>>>

>>>>> You're really jealous of Ballmer aren't you? He's a billionaire you

>>>>> know.

>>>>> That seems to really fry up your stupid ass doesn't it.

>>>>> Live with it you idiot!

>>>>> Frank

>>>> There are some things that money just can't fix and one of them is Steve

>>>> Ballmer. You're another.

>>>>

>>> <The pot calling the kettle black. :)>

>> You're another.

>>

 

<Join the crowd>

"Adam Albright" <AA@ABC.net> wrote in message

news:hlj1d3pooav6227q2dv17l9lqslel23i7c@4ax.com...

>>

>>Well my Samsung comes with a pre-activated Vista.

>>No need to ever call M$ unless you need an update, even after a reinstall

>>from the dvd

>>I expect many others are like this.

>

> You are missing the point. Vista "phones home" randomly on it's own

> behind your back. That is how you can get tagged as counterfeit.

>

 

Mine doesn't.. or at least not since I got it.

"NoStop" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message

news:ge5Ai.93743$rX4.69924@pd7urf2no...

> Why are you telling dennis this? He already claims to be an expert and

> knows

> everything there is to know about computers. Heck, he just finished

> lecturing me about how knowledgeable he is. Surely he's aware that Vista

> phones home.

 

Stop talking rubbish.. I have never claimed to know everything unlike you,

however it is apparent that nearly everyone here knows more than you so it

no surprise if /you/ think I know everything.

dennis@home wrote:

>

> "Adam Albright" <AA@ABC.net> wrote in message

> news:hlj1d3pooav6227q2dv17l9lqslel23i7c@4ax.com...

>

>>>

>>>Well my Samsung comes with a pre-activated Vista.

>>>No need to ever call M$ unless you need an update, even after a reinstall

>>>from the dvd

>>>I expect many others are like this.

>>

>> You are missing the point. Vista "phones home" randomly on it's own

>> behind your back. That is how you can get tagged as counterfeit.

>>

>

> Mine doesn't.. or at least not since I got it.

 

What is it about "behind your back" that you fail to understand?

 

Cheers.

 

--

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http://tinyurl.com/2w8qqo

 

Intelligent and helpful Windoze error messages: http://tinyurl.com/2ks5dz

On Sun, 26 Aug 2007 17:30:34 +0100, "dennis@home"

<dennis@killspam.kicks-ass.net> wrote:

>

>"Adam Albright" <AA@ABC.net> wrote in message

>news:hlj1d3pooav6227q2dv17l9lqslel23i7c@4ax.com...

>

>>>

>>>Well my Samsung comes with a pre-activated Vista.

>>>No need to ever call M$ unless you need an update, even after a reinstall

>>>from the dvd

>>>I expect many others are like this.

>>

>> You are missing the point. Vista "phones home" randomly on it's own

>> behind your back. That is how you can get tagged as counterfeit.

>>

>

>Mine doesn't.. or at least not since I got it.

 

You think it tells you? Geez, WAKE UP! If your PC is connected to the

Internet it WILL keep checking in with Microsoft validation servers.

Do try to pay better attention. Big brother IS watching.

Adam Albright wrote:

> On Sat, 25 Aug 2007 22:58:14 -0700, Frank <fb@nospaner.cnm> wrote:

>

>

>>Adam Albright wrote:

>>

>>

>>

>>>What's the matter, Ballmer's your boy Frankie being Microsoft's CEO.

>>>You should love him, he acts just as nuts as you do and since you're

>>>such a Microsoft fan how come you're too stupid to know who's running

>>>the show?

>>>

>>

>>You're really jealous of Ballmer aren't you? He's a billionaire you know.

>>That seems to really fry up your stupid ass doesn't it.

>>Live with it you idiot!

>>Frank

>

>

> Jealous of Ballmer? No embarrassed such an obvious idiot is in charge

> of one of the biggest American corporations. Does kind of explain a

> lot about what's wrong with Microsoft though.

>

> Let Steve Jobs explain it to you.

>

> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WfALGcDNEDw

>

hehehe...you ARE jealous of SB aren't you!

I though so.

Frank

"NoStop" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message

news:V6iAi.94472$fJ5.16425@pd7urf1no...

> dennis@home wrote:

>

>>

>> "Adam Albright" <AA@ABC.net> wrote in message

>> news:hlj1d3pooav6227q2dv17l9lqslel23i7c@4ax.com...

>>

>>>>

>>>>Well my Samsung comes with a pre-activated Vista.

>>>>No need to ever call M$ unless you need an update, even after a

>>>>reinstall

>>>>from the dvd

>>>>I expect many others are like this.

>>>

>>> You are missing the point. Vista "phones home" randomly on it's own

>>> behind your back. That is how you can get tagged as counterfeit.

>>>

>>

>> Mine doesn't.. or at least not since I got it.

>

> What is it about "behind your back" that you fail to understand?

 

Don't you monitor traffic on your internet connection?

I do.