Re: Typical BS Answer

 

Leythos wrote:

> In article <uhuIM#Z5HHA.464@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl>,

> iamalias@shoesgmail.com. says...

>> I bought Vista the other day. You must have missed the reply to YOU

>> where I stated that. Cost me 158.86 euros for a copy of a generic OEM

>> Ultimate. I also bought an AMD2 Dual Core 4600+, two gigs of Corsair 800

>> RAM and a PCIExpress nVidia GeForce 7300 at 512 MB to go with it.

>

> It's good to see that you've learned from your Ubuntu mistake and have

> moved to Windows - congrats. I can't imagine anyone with your massive

> amount of Linux experience even wanting to use Vista unless you've

> failed to master Linux or unless your Linux platform failed to provide

> the resources you needed - after all, you are the one telling everyone

> TOO BAD for getting vista, and that Ubuntu is the solution.

>

> Sounds very hypocritical of you to be buying something you rail against.

>

 

I bought it for two reasons:

 

1. Curiosity.

 

2. For games that use DX10.

 

I will never use it as a workstation and I am not impressed or wowed by

it. Seems like an XP SE with a little eye candy thrown in, although the

search feature is almost as good as Beagle.

 

--

Alias

To email me, remove shoes

Re: What is the best Anti-Virus For Vista? ALIAS TROLLING AGAIN

 

In article <e6Lzemb5HHA.3716@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl>,

iamalias@shoesgmail.com. says...

> Leythos wrote:

> > In article <fak5hk$mp1$1@aioe.org>, iamalias@shoesgmail.com says...

> >> Doofy wrote:

> >>> What is the best Anti-Virus For Vista?

> >> Nuking Vista and installing a real OS like Ubuntu. Check it out at

> >

> > Providing a link to something that does not answer the question asked of

> > the OP, not even close to answering it, is trolling and OT.

>

> Usenet rules:

>

> Rule #1. If you can't stand the heat, then get the H-e-l-l out of the

> kitchen! And, Rule #2. If you can't take it, then don't try to dish it

> out! Rule #3. Rule #s 1 & 2 apply to Everybody, and that means you too,

> Fool!

 

And the Definition of a Troll fits your postings exactly.

 

--

 

Leythos

- Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum.

- Calling an illegal alien an "undocumented worker" is like calling a

drug dealer an "unlicensed pharmacist"

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Robert Moir [Thu, 23 Aug 2007 19:20:30 +0100] wrote:

>

>"Marco Desloovere" <marco_desloovere@yahoo.com> wrote in message

>news:6lcpc3d8roc8b8hvoqiq0a6g8i8cmobmke@4ax.com...

>

>

>> All anti-virus software lull you into a false sense of security.

>> They can all only detect *known* malware.

>

>Well yes but some are worse than others. One Care can't even do a very good

>job with known malware.

 

As long as AV software cannot detect *all* viruses, they are *all*

useless. Even if the best AV software were 99% efficient, that last

percent still contains undetected malware.

It suffices that *one* single virus slips through to cause havoc.

>> If you're careful, you don't need anti-virus software at all.

>

>While I've gone long periods of time without AV on my windows machine with

>no trouble, this is bad advice to be bandying around... the sort of people

>who have to ask with help in this subject are the sort that probably don't

>know enough to be careful and prudent.

 

Wrong! These people believe that AV software is the answer to their

malware problems, and they think that anything is permitted, because

their AV software is taking care of the bad things.

Even with AV software running on a PC, one still has to be very careful.

Should I mention phishing here?

 

I believe that the computer users should be *educated* on malware.

Don't just let them use AV illusionware and hope for the best.

>I've likened the need for AV in the past to car safety features.

>

>Antivirus programs are like a seatbelt or an airbag. They can usually but

>not always do a job of saving your bacon when something goes wrong, but all

>the seatbelts and airbags in the world will never make it 'safe' to crash

>your car on purpose. And as for being a good enough driver to not need these

>things, that might technically be true but even the best people have

>accidents sometimes.

 

That is not quite the same, because you might be protected in your car,

and still have an accident, but be injured just a little bit.

But if only *one* virus gets through the AV software on a PC, that PC is

not just a little bit infected, it could be totally compromised.

That is the difference.

>> Useful information:

>> http://www.claymania.com/nav-map.html

>

>Thanks, I know that site quite well. You'll notice it actually links to one

>of my old websites if you look around.

 

OK, for other users this information might be new.

 

Marco

Re: Typical BS Answer

 

Alias wrote:

 

Seems like an XP SE with a little eye candy thrown in, although the

> search feature is almost as good as Beagle.

>

 

That statement alone proves you don't have Vista.

No more lying!

We're all sick and tired of your bs lies!

Frank

Re: Typical BS Answer

 

"Alias" <iamalias@shoesgmail.com.> wrote in message

news:%23oHWEqb5HHA.2108@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

> Leythos wrote:

>> In article <uhuIM#Z5HHA.464@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl>,

>> iamalias@shoesgmail.com. says...

>>> I bought Vista the other day. You must have missed the reply to YOU

>>> where I stated that. Cost me 158.86 euros for a copy of a generic OEM

>>> Ultimate. I also bought an AMD2 Dual Core 4600+, two gigs of Corsair 800

>>> RAM and a PCIExpress nVidia GeForce 7300 at 512 MB to go with it.

>>

>> It's good to see that you've learned from your Ubuntu mistake and have

>> moved to Windows - congrats. I can't imagine anyone with your massive

>> amount of Linux experience even wanting to use Vista unless you've failed

>> to master Linux or unless your Linux platform failed to provide the

>> resources you needed - after all, you are the one telling everyone TOO

>> BAD for getting vista, and that Ubuntu is the solution.

>>

>> Sounds very hypocritical of you to be buying something you rail against.

>>

>

> I bought it for two reasons:

>

> 1. Curiosity.

>

> 2. For games that use DX10.

>

> I will never use it as a workstation and I am not impressed or wowed by

> it. Seems like an XP SE with a little eye candy thrown in, although the

> search feature is almost as good as Beagle.

>

> --

> Alias

> To email me, remove shoes

 

I guess your job as the Ubuntu Marketing Department wasn't paying enough so

you decided to join the rest of the world and hitch to the Microsoft

bandwagon. Good choice. Ubuntu is so Yesterday!

"Alias" <iamalias@shoesgmail.com.> wrote in message

news:eORgM$a5HHA.4164@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

> Doofy wrote:

>> Hey, lets stop this nonsense! I will to.

>

> It's not your fault. As long as there's Usenet, there will be this

> "nonsense".

>

 

And you are THEIR King !

 

 

 

 

 

> --

> Alias

> To email me, remove shoes

The new Rules

 

"Alias" <iamalias@shoesgmail.com.> wrote in message

news:e6Lzemb5HHA.3716@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

> Leythos wrote:

>> In article <fak5hk$mp1$1@aioe.org>, iamalias@shoesgmail.com says...

>>> Doofy wrote:

>>>> What is the best Anti-Virus For Vista?

>>> Nuking Vista and installing a real OS like Ubuntu. Check it out at

>>

>> Providing a link to something that does not answer the question asked of

>> the OP, not even close to answering it, is trolling and OT.

>

> Usenet rules:

>

> Rule #1. If you can't stand the heat, then get the H-e-l-l out of the

> kitchen! And, Rule #2. If you can't take it, then don't try to dish it

> out! Rule #3. Rule #s 1 & 2 apply to Everybody, and that means you too,

> Fool!

>

> --

> Alias

> To email me, remove shoes

 

Rule #1 - Don't listen to Alias

Rule #2 - Don't get anywhere near Ubuntu/Linux/Unix

Rule #3 - Don't listen to Alias

Rule #4 - Microsoft isn't perfect but it's workable (If not Vista, than XP)

Rule #5 - Don't listen to Alias

 

If any of the above rules don't apply, use the following rule:

 

Don't listen to Alias

"Frank" <fb@nospaner.cnm> wrote in message

news:ejTAaoa5HHA.1208@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

> Doofy wrote:

>

>> What is the best Anti-Virus For Vista?

>

> We use Avast on our workstations and personal computers and Symantec

> corporate on our server.

> Frank

 

I use Avast on my computers. Works great

 

Bill

Re: The new Rules

 

On Thu, 23 Aug 2007 13:14:43 -0700, "Bill Yanaire" <bill@yanaire.com>

wrote:

>> Usenet rules:

>Rule #1 - Don't listen to Alias

>Rule #2 - Don't get anywhere near Ubuntu/Linux/Unix

>Rule #3 - Don't listen to Alias

>Rule #4 - Microsoft isn't perfect but it's workable (If not Vista, than XP)

>Rule #5 - Don't listen to Alias

>

>If any of the above rules don't apply, use the following rule:

>

>Don't listen to Alias

 

Usenet has only ONE rule... there are no rules. Those that try to

impose rules and worse enforce them look well, stupid. -)

Re: What is the best Anti-Virus For Vista? ALIAS TROLLING AGAIN

 

On Thu, 23 Aug 2007 15:22:56 -0400, Leythos <void@nowhere.lan> wrote:

>In article <e6Lzemb5HHA.3716@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl>,

>iamalias@shoesgmail.com. says...

>> Leythos wrote:

>> > In article <fak5hk$mp1$1@aioe.org>, iamalias@shoesgmail.com says...

>> >> Doofy wrote:

>> >>> What is the best Anti-Virus For Vista?

>> >> Nuking Vista and installing a real OS like Ubuntu. Check it out at

>> >

>> > Providing a link to something that does not answer the question asked of

>> > the OP, not even close to answering it, is trolling and OT.

>>

>> Usenet rules:

>>

>> Rule #1. If you can't stand the heat, then get the H-e-l-l out of the

>> kitchen! And, Rule #2. If you can't take it, then don't try to dish it

>> out! Rule #3. Rule #s 1 & 2 apply to Everybody, and that means you too,

>> Fool!

>

>And the Definition of a Troll fits your postings exactly.

 

Here's a definition that fits you perfectly:

 

http://redwing.hutman.net/~mreed/warriorshtm/weenie.htm

Re: The new Rules

 

In article <h5trc3d9v7lq08gus6jv2c2uipnfotdlok@4ax.com>, AA@ABC.net

says...

> On Thu, 23 Aug 2007 13:14:43 -0700, "Bill Yanaire" <bill@yanaire.com>

> wrote:

>

> >> Usenet rules:

>

> >Rule #1 - Don't listen to Alias

> >Rule #2 - Don't get anywhere near Ubuntu/Linux/Unix

> >Rule #3 - Don't listen to Alias

> >Rule #4 - Microsoft isn't perfect but it's workable (If not Vista, than XP)

> >Rule #5 - Don't listen to Alias

> >

> >If any of the above rules don't apply, use the following rule:

> >

> >Don't listen to Alias

>

> Usenet has only ONE rule... there are no rules. Those that try to

> impose rules and worse enforce them look well, stupid. -)

 

But many non-Alt groups have charters and complaints with headers sent

to the posting company that is used by a troll or violator of the

charter can get their account suspended, another Usenet rule you didn't

seem to know.

 

--

 

Leythos

- Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum.

- Calling an illegal alien an "undocumented worker" is like calling a

drug dealer an "unlicensed pharmacist"

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Re: Typical BS Answer

 

Bill Yanaire wrote:

> "Alias" <iamalias@shoesgmail.com.> wrote in message

> news:%23oHWEqb5HHA.2108@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>> Leythos wrote:

>>> In article <uhuIM#Z5HHA.464@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl>,

>>> iamalias@shoesgmail.com. says...

>>>> I bought Vista the other day. You must have missed the reply to YOU

>>>> where I stated that. Cost me 158.86 euros for a copy of a generic OEM

>>>> Ultimate. I also bought an AMD2 Dual Core 4600+, two gigs of Corsair 800

>>>> RAM and a PCIExpress nVidia GeForce 7300 at 512 MB to go with it.

>>> It's good to see that you've learned from your Ubuntu mistake and have

>>> moved to Windows - congrats. I can't imagine anyone with your massive

>>> amount of Linux experience even wanting to use Vista unless you've failed

>>> to master Linux or unless your Linux platform failed to provide the

>>> resources you needed - after all, you are the one telling everyone TOO

>>> BAD for getting vista, and that Ubuntu is the solution.

>>>

>>> Sounds very hypocritical of you to be buying something you rail against.

>>>

>> I bought it for two reasons:

>>

>> 1. Curiosity.

>>

>> 2. For games that use DX10.

>>

>> I will never use it as a workstation and I am not impressed or wowed by

>> it. Seems like an XP SE with a little eye candy thrown in, although the

>> search feature is almost as good as Beagle.

>>

>> --

>> Alias

>> To email me, remove shoes

>

> I guess your job as the Ubuntu Marketing Department wasn't paying enough so

> you decided to join the rest of the world and hitch to the Microsoft

> bandwagon. Good choice. Ubuntu is so Yesterday!

>

>

>

 

Actually, having Vista has had the opposite effect: it's lead me to

appreciate Ubuntu more.

 

--

Alias

To email me, remove shoes

Re: Typical BS Answer

 

Frank wrote:

> Alias wrote:

>

> Seems like an XP SE with a little eye candy thrown in, although the

>> search feature is almost as good as Beagle.

>>

>

> That statement alone proves you don't have Vista.

 

Which one, sport?

> No more lying!

> We're all sick and tired of your bs lies!

> Frank

 

If I said your name was Frank, you'd call me a liar. You call everyone

that disagrees with you a liar.

 

--

Alias

To email me, remove shoes

Re: Typical BS Answer

 

Alias wrote:

> Frank wrote:

>

>> Alias wrote:

>>

>> Seems like an XP SE with a little eye candy thrown in, although the

>>

>>> search feature is almost as good as Beagle.

>>>

>>

>> That statement alone proves you don't have Vista.

>

>

> Which one, sport?

>

>> No more lying!

>> We're all sick and tired of your bs lies!

>> Frank

>

>

> If I said your name was Frank, you'd call me a liar. You call everyone

> that disagrees with you a liar.

>

 

Wrong! Only the liars.

Frank

NOD32 is very good....I am on year 3 with no problems. And my last renewal

was 40 bucks for 2 years.

 

"Doofy" <rooigrond@hotmail.com> wrote in message

news:%23TsF$ja5HHA.5316@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

> Thanx! Then NOD32 it will be!

>

>

> "Tom Porterfield" <tpporter@mvps.org> wrote in message

> news:%23O$fYia5HHA.2108@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>> Doofy wrote:

>>> How about BitDefender?

>>

>> My experience is that it too is a bit resource intensive, causing system

>> slowdowns, though I haven't used the most current version.

>>

>> My opinion is that good AV software should be unnoticeable unless a virus

>> is found. Some reviews of BitDefender also indicate it has a slightly

>> higher than others rate of false positives.

>> --

>> Tom Porterfield

>

Robert,

 

Perhaps you are not familiar with the entire Kaspersky line? They also have

small business and corporate versions as well that can be deployed over a

server. The version I referred to is admittedly their "Home" version. But

all of the Kaspersky line is top notch.

 

"Robert Moir" <usenet@REMOVE2EMAILrobertmoir.com> wrote in message

news:%23OwxqKb5HHA.484@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>

> "Hapkido" <hapkidomeister@gmail.com> wrote in message

> news:uz7B0DT5HHA.2752@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>> There are only 2 antivirus programs I would even consider:

>>

>> 1. Kaspersky AV (KAV) or their suite (KIS), currrently at version

>> 7.0.0.125 which is 100% Vista-compatible. This new version includes a new

>> active heuristics engine which scans for "suspect" items not covered by

>> it's Pro Active Defense definitions. KAV has a 99.7% positive detection

>> rate. It uses very little memory, it's fast, easy to use and runs great

>> right out of the box. Support on the Kaspersky Forums is excellent too.

>>

>> 2. NOD32 is another very good product, albeit not quite as effective as

>> Kaspersky. However, it is right up there and rates a strong second place,

>> IMHO.

>>

>> I've installed KAV on well over 100 of my customer's PC's of all flavors

>> and have never had a complaint nor has any of them ever been infected.

>

> Great home products that I'd be quite happy to point out to people looking

> for AV for a home computer, but I've not seen evidence that either of them

> 'scale' to enterprise deployment. And we're back to my point about no

> single product being "the best" because they all meet different

> requirements.

>

Re: Typical BS Answer

 

What games you figure to be playing with a GeForce 7300? Not DX10 games.

 

"Alias" <iamalias@shoesgmail.com> wrote in message

news:fakgpt$nlk$1@aioe.org...

> Frank wrote:

>> Alias wrote:

>>

>>>

>>> I bought Vista the other day. You must have missed the reply to YOU

>>> where I stated that. Cost me 158.86 euros for a copy of a generic OEM

>>> Ultimate.

>>

>> Liar!

>

> And your proof that it's a lie is? Your twisted imagination?

>

>>

>> I also bought an AMD2 Dual Core 4600+, two gigs of Corsair 800

>>> RAM and a PCIExpress nVidia GeForce 7300 at 512 MB to go with it.

>>

>> More lies?

>> How charming!

>> Frank

>

> Not a lie. I also bought an ASUS motherboard. Course, it's triple booting

> with XP Pro and Ubuntu and Vista will only be used for the new games that

> require DX10.

>

> --

> Alias

> To email me, remove shoes

Re: Typical BS Answer

 

On Thu, 23 Aug 2007 16:40:56 -0700, Frank <fb@nospaner.cnm> wrote:

>Alias wrote:

>> Frank wrote:

>>

>>> Alias wrote:

>>>

>>> Seems like an XP SE with a little eye candy thrown in, although the

>>>

>>>> search feature is almost as good as Beagle.

>>>>

>>>

>>> That statement alone proves you don't have Vista.

>>

>>

>> Which one, sport?

>>

>>> No more lying!

>>> We're all sick and tired of your bs lies!

>>> Frank

>>

>>

>> If I said your name was Frank, you'd call me a liar. You call everyone

>> that disagrees with you a liar.

>>

>

>Wrong! Only the liars.

 

So what do you call yourself since you are by far the biggest liar

here.

it depends on what YOU like.

I use AVG free from http://free.grisoft.com

Others swear by Avast free at http://www.avast.com

Others say Clamwin from http://www.clamwin.org

Then there are the ones that say Kapersky or NOD32 are better.

As long as you avoid Symantec or McAfee, you 'may' be OK.

--

A Professional Amateur...If anyone knew it all, none of would be here!

CarGodZeroOne@hotmail.com

Change Alpha to Numeric to reply

Re: Typical BS Answer

 

Alias wrote:

> Frank wrote:

>

>> Alias wrote:

>>

>>>

>>> I bought Vista the other day. You must have missed the reply to YOU

>>> where I stated that. Cost me 158.86 euros for a copy of a generic OEM

>>> Ultimate.

>>

>>

>> Liar!

>

>

> And your proof that it's a lie is? Your twisted imagination?

>

>>

>> I also bought an AMD2 Dual Core 4600+, two gigs of Corsair 800

>>

>>> RAM and a PCIExpress nVidia GeForce 7300 at 512 MB to go with it.

>>

>>

>> More lies?

>> How charming!

>> Frank

>

>

> Not a lie. I also bought an ASUS motherboard. Course, it's triple

> booting with XP Pro and Ubuntu and Vista will only be used for the new

> games that require DX10.

>

 

 

 

More lies and deception. DX10 games are a long ways off pal. Plus all

new games that will play on DX10 (haven't seen any as of yet)will also

play on DX9. Game developers aren't about to cut their own throats.

Try again.

Frank

Re: Typical BS Answer

 

KickinChicken wrote:

> What games you figure to be playing with a GeForce 7300? Not DX10 games.

>

> "Alias" <iamalias@shoesgmail.com> wrote in message

> news:fakgpt$nlk$1@aioe.org...

>

>> Frank wrote:

>>

>>> Alias wrote:

>>>

>>>>

>>>> I bought Vista the other day. You must have missed the reply to YOU

>>>> where I stated that. Cost me 158.86 euros for a copy of a generic

>>>> OEM Ultimate.

>>>

>>>

>>> Liar!

>>

>>

>> And your proof that it's a lie is? Your twisted imagination?

>>

>>>

>>> I also bought an AMD2 Dual Core 4600+, two gigs of Corsair 800

>>>

>>>> RAM and a PCIExpress nVidia GeForce 7300 at 512 MB to go with it.

>>>

>>>

>>> More lies?

>>> How charming!

>>> Frank

>>

>>

>> Not a lie. I also bought an ASUS motherboard. Course, it's triple

>> booting with XP Pro and Ubuntu and Vista will only be used for the new

>> games that require DX10.

>>

>> --

>> Alias

>> To email me, remove shoes

>

>

OH YEAH!!! Good call...hehehe...I missed that one...ain't no DX10 on an

old GF 7300!!!

More proof of his lies!

Thanks for the heads up on that one! :-)

Frank

Re: Typical BS Answer

 

KickinChicken wrote:

> What games you figure to be playing with a GeForce 7300? Not DX10 games.

 

When games come out for DX10, I'll get a new video card. At present, it

works just fine for the games we play using XP.

 

--

Alias

To email me, remove shoes

Re: Typical BS Answer

 

Frank wrote:

> Alias wrote:

>

>> Frank wrote:

>>

>>> Alias wrote:

>>>

>>>>

>>>> I bought Vista the other day. You must have missed the reply to YOU

>>>> where I stated that. Cost me 158.86 euros for a copy of a generic

>>>> OEM Ultimate.

>>>

>>>

>>> Liar!

>>

>>

>> And your proof that it's a lie is? Your twisted imagination?

>>

>>>

>>> I also bought an AMD2 Dual Core 4600+, two gigs of Corsair 800

>>>

>>>> RAM and a PCIExpress nVidia GeForce 7300 at 512 MB to go with it.

>>>

>>>

>>> More lies?

>>> How charming!

>>> Frank

>>

>>

>> Not a lie. I also bought an ASUS motherboard. Course, it's triple

>> booting with XP Pro and Ubuntu and Vista will only be used for the new

>> games that require DX10.

>>

>

>

>

> More lies and deception. DX10 games are a long ways off pal. Plus all

> new games that will play on DX10 (haven't seen any as of yet)will also

> play on DX9. Game developers aren't about to cut their own throats.

> Try again.

> Frank

 

Oh, so you're saying DX10 will never be used? Are you saying that games

won't require Vista? Maybe I wasted my money then because I don't see

any advantage to Vista over XP or Ubuntu for anything else.

 

--

Alias

To email me, remove shoes

NotMe [Thu, 23 Aug 2007 20:12:17 -0600] wrote:

>it depends on what YOU like.

>I use AVG free from http://free.grisoft.com

>Others swear by Avast free at http://www.avast.com

>Others say Clamwin from http://www.clamwin.org

>Then there are the ones that say Kapersky or NOD32 are better.

>As long as you avoid Symantec or McAfee, you 'may' be OK.

 

All AV software in general is crap, because they cannot guarantee a 100%

protection from malware, and worst of all, they give the PC user a false

sense of security. Remember, it suffices for only *one* computer virus

to cause havoc.

 

Therefore, the best, and by far most efficient protection from malware

is to *avoid* installing it on the PC.

 

Something to think about:

http://exodusdev.com/blog/mike/living-dangerously-no-anti-virus-or-firewall

 

Marco

In article <0o5tc3l286timr1cbp3f5bm6e60fc53q1p@4ax.com>,

marco_desloovere@yahoo.com says...

> Therefore, the best, and by far most efficient protection from malware

> is to *avoid* installing it on the PC.

 

Except that the masses of ignorant users are unable to learn enough to

keep that from happening - and then there are the exploits in

applications that get taken advantage of by new malware before the

exploit is public....

 

AV, while not perfect, is a must for any computer not in a secured,

locked down, environment.

 

--

 

Leythos

- Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum.

- Calling an illegal alien an "undocumented worker" is like calling a

drug dealer an "unlicensed pharmacist"

spam999free@rrohio.com (remove 999 for proper email address)