Re: Alias - The Ubuntu Marketing Department back in full swing

 

Vista User wrote:

> "Alias" <iamalias@shoesgmail.com> wrote in message

> news:faigh1$pl5$3@aioe.org...

>> Bill Yanaire wrote:

>>> "Julian" <Julianlzb87@gmail.com> wrote in message

>>> news:%237LP19P5HHA.2752@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>>>> "Bill Yanaire" <bill@yanaire.com> wrote in message

>>>> news:eVXgaoP5HHA.2752@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>>>>> "Alias" <iamalias@shoesgmail.com> wrote in message

>>>>> news:fai54r$qid$1@aioe.org...

>>>>>> Marco Desloovere wrote:

>>>>>>> Bill Yanaire [Wed, 22 Aug 2007 08:38:59 -0700] wrote:

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> After a two week vacation, Alias has come back to marketing for

>>>>>>>> Ubuntu.

>>>>>>> Yeah, remember his post (Message-ID:

>>>>>>> <eeMB2np1HHA.4004@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl>) from August 4th:

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> | Subject: It's been fun, folks ...

>>>>>>> | | ... but I'm outta here. After meditating on what Stephen Rose

>>>>>>> said about | spamming, I came to the conclusion that he has a point.

>>>>>>> | | So, if anyone is interested in Ubuntu, you can email me, visit

>>>>>>> the | Ubuntu forums or Google.

>>>>>>> | | As I don't have, nor plan to get, Vista, I am unsubscribing

>>>>>>> from this ng.

>>>>>>> | | --

>>>>>>> | Alias

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> This proves beyond any doubt that this guy is nothing but a troll

>>>>>>> full

>>>>>>> of lies.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Marco

>>>>>> I changed my mind. You never change your mind? If not, perhaps one

>>>>>> could say that you two are "mindless"?

>>>>>>

>>>>>> --

>>>>>> Alias

>>>>>> To email me, remove shoes

>>>>> No - you are just dense. You have been told by lots of people that

>>>>> Ubuntu evangalism isn't wanted here. You just keep spewing your

>>>>> marketing hype regarding the TOY OS that nobody exploits! It gets

>>>>> tiresome, day after day, Ubuntu is life....Ubuntu is the wave of the

>>>>> future. It is so far in the future that most of us here will not give

>>>>> a RATS ASS if Ubuntu overtakes Microsoft because we won't be using

>>>>> computers by then!

>>>> He's computing equivalent of a Jehovah Witless

>>>> foot in the door merchant who won't take

>>>> "no thanks, I'm not interested" for an answer

>>>> and is quite happy to make other peoples life

>>>> a misery such is his fanaticism, conceit,

>>>> fear and loathing..

>>>>

>>>> He's exactly the same on

>>>> alt.religion.buddhism.nichiren.

>>> That reminds me of my College days. Our house was down the street from

>>> the Jehova Witless church and they use to come by and bug us each Sunday

>>> morning. We were sleeping in, trying to get over our hangovers and when

>>> they knocked on the door, three of us answered in our robes. When we saw

>>> it was the Witless, we opened our robes. They didn't bother us again !

>>>

>>>

>>>

>> That small, eh?

>>

>> --

>> Alias

>> To email me, remove shoes

>

> Maybe you should read your post again!

>

> Subject: It's been fun, folks ...

> ... but I'm outta here. After meditating on what Stephen Rose

> said about | spamming, I came to the conclusion that he has a point.

> So, if anyone is interested in Ubuntu, you can email me, visit

> the | Ubuntu forums or Google.

> As I don't have, nor plan to get, Vista, I am unsubscribing from

> this ng.

> Alias

>

>

 

What is it about changing one's mind that you don't understand?

 

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Re: Alias - The Ubuntu Marketing Department back in full swing

 

Frank wrote:

> Vista User wrote:

>

>

>>

>> Maybe you should read your post again!

>>

>> Subject: It's been fun, folks ...

>> ... but I'm outta here. After meditating on what Stephen Rose

>> said about | spamming, I came to the conclusion that he has a point.

>> So, if anyone is interested in Ubuntu, you can email me, visit

>> the | Ubuntu forums or Google.

>> As I don't have, nor plan to get, Vista, I am unsubscribing from

>> this ng.

>> Alias

>>

> hehehe...well that just turned out to be another one of alias fukkin

> lies...in a continual, unrelenting string of lies.

> He's a liar...plain and simple.

> His coming back here just prove that fact.

> Frank

 

No, Frank the Vista General resident troll, I merely changed my mind.

Live with it.

 

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Re: Alias - The Ubuntu Marketing Department back in full swing

 

Frank wrote:

> Alias wrote:

>

>> Bill Yanaire wrote:

>>

>>> "Alias" <iamalias@shoesgmail.com> wrote in message

>>> news:fai54r$qid$1@aioe.org...

>>>

>>>> Marco Desloovere wrote:

>>>>

>>>>> Bill Yanaire [Wed, 22 Aug 2007 08:38:59 -0700] wrote:

>>>>>

>>>>>> After a two week vacation, Alias has come back to marketing for

>>>>>> Ubuntu.

>>>>>

>>>>> Yeah, remember his post (Message-ID:

>>>>> <eeMB2np1HHA.4004@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl>) from August 4th:

>>>>>

>>>>> | Subject: It's been fun, folks ...

>>>>> | | ... but I'm outta here. After meditating on what Stephen Rose

>>>>> said about | spamming, I came to the conclusion that he has a point.

>>>>> | | So, if anyone is interested in Ubuntu, you can email me,

>>>>> visit the | Ubuntu forums or Google.

>>>>> | | As I don't have, nor plan to get, Vista, I am unsubscribing

>>>>> from this ng.

>>>>> | | -- | Alias

>>>>>

>>>>> This proves beyond any doubt that this guy is nothing but a troll full

>>>>> of lies.

>>>>>

>>>>> Marco

>>>>

>>>> I changed my mind. You never change your mind? If not, perhaps one

>>>> could say that you two are "mindless"?

>>>>

>>>> --

>>>> Alias

>>>> To email me, remove shoes

>>>

>>>

>>> No - you are just dense. You have been told by lots of people that

>>> Ubuntu evangalism isn't wanted here.

>>

>>

>> Only by the likes of Julian, Frank and you. I'm not impressed, sorry.

>>

>>> You just keep spewing your marketing hype regarding the TOY OS that

>>> nobody exploits! It gets tiresome, day after day, Ubuntu is

>>> life....Ubuntu is the wave of the future. It is so far in the future

>>> that most of us here will not give a RATS ASS if Ubuntu overtakes

>>> Microsoft because we won't be using computers by then!

>>>

>>> Go take another vacation.

>>>

>>>

>>

>> If you're not interested in my posts, please learn how to use your

>> newsreader's filters and don't read them.

>>

> You idiot! No one other is really interested in your post

 

Frank, you barely speak for yourself, much less anyone else.

>. You're a

> linux troll.

> Get lost one and for all and don't come back.

> Frank

 

This from the biggest troll on vista.general.

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Re: Alias - The Ubuntu Marketing Department back in full swing

 

Vista User wrote:

> "Alias" <iamalias@shoesgmail.com> wrote in message

> news:faigfd$pl5$2@aioe.org...

>> Bill Yanaire wrote:

>>> "Alias" <iamalias@shoesgmail.com> wrote in message

>>> news:fai54r$qid$1@aioe.org...

>>>> Marco Desloovere wrote:

>>>>> Bill Yanaire [Wed, 22 Aug 2007 08:38:59 -0700] wrote:

>>>>>

>>>>>> After a two week vacation, Alias has come back to marketing for

>>>>>> Ubuntu.

>>>>> Yeah, remember his post (Message-ID:

>>>>> <eeMB2np1HHA.4004@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl>) from August 4th:

>>>>>

>>>>> | Subject: It's been fun, folks ...

>>>>> | | ... but I'm outta here. After meditating on what Stephen Rose

>>>>> said about | spamming, I came to the conclusion that he has a point.

>>>>> | | So, if anyone is interested in Ubuntu, you can email me, visit

>>>>> the | Ubuntu forums or Google.

>>>>> | | As I don't have, nor plan to get, Vista, I am unsubscribing from

>>>>> this ng.

>>>>> | | --

>>>>> | Alias

>>>>>

>>>>> This proves beyond any doubt that this guy is nothing but a troll full

>>>>> of lies.

>>>>>

>>>>> Marco

>>>> I changed my mind. You never change your mind? If not, perhaps one could

>>>> say that you two are "mindless"?

>>>>

>>>> --

>>>> Alias

>>>> To email me, remove shoes

>>> No - you are just dense. You have been told by lots of people that

>>> Ubuntu evangalism isn't wanted here.

>> Only by the likes of Julian, Frank and you. I'm not impressed, sorry.

>>

>>> You just keep spewing your marketing hype regarding the TOY OS that

>>> nobody exploits! It gets tiresome, day after day, Ubuntu is

>>> life....Ubuntu is the wave of the future. It is so far in the future

>>> that most of us here will not give a RATS ASS if Ubuntu overtakes

>>> Microsoft because we won't be using computers by then!

>>>

>>> Go take another vacation.

>>>

>>>

>> If you're not interested in my posts, please learn how to use your

>> newsreader's filters and don't read them.

>>

>> --

>> Alias

>> To email me, remove shoes

>

> Maybe you should read your post again!

>

> Subject: It's been fun, folks ...

> ... but I'm outta here. After meditating on what Stephen Rose

> said about | spamming, I came to the conclusion that he has a point.

> So, if anyone is interested in Ubuntu, you can email me, visit

> the | Ubuntu forums or Google.

> As I don't have, nor plan to get, Vista, I am unsubscribing from

> this ng.

> Alias

>

>

 

What is it about my changing my mind that you don't understand?

 

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Re: Alias - Correct once

 

Frank <fb@nospaner.cnm> wrote in

news:eGIgfZU5HHA.1208@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl:

> DanS wrote:

>

>>

>>

>> Casual piracy, that's a Microsoft term. By their definition, people

>> just copying software and giving it to friends. I believe that is

>> barely a problem at all.

>

> "You believe"...therein lies the problem dan. You don't accept what

> one of the world's largest multi-national corporations in the knows

> (not believes) based on their ability to monitor their own software

> usage on a global bases...MS does not "guess" when they make a market

> move. They don't have to.

> So you..."believe that (casual piracy)is barely a problem at all".

> Obviously MS doesn't.

> I'd put my money on MS.

 

Of course you will.

>

> Binary Usenet is the absolute biggest source of pirated

>> software, and if there is 'casual' piracy going on, it's giving

>> friends copies of software d/l'd from Usenet in the first place.

>>

> Do you have any statistical data to backup that claim? I'll bet the

> farm MS has volumes of market data to backup their moves in the

> market. Big difference!

> Frank

 

So you have no clue as to binary Usenet do you ?

 

Here's a link to MS ( & MS related) software posted to Usenet in the last

70 days:

 

http://binsearch.info/?q=microsoft+&max=250&adv_age=70&server=

 

This stuff is d/l'd from Usenet 1000's of times more than someone buying

it and handing a friend a CD.

Daddy is here.

 

>Charlie Lame Brains aka Dean Martin can't get the girls wrote:

>>Adam Hopalong aka Deputy Deputy Barney Fife and aka Jerry Lewis who

likes *boys* wrote:

 

<snipped>

 

Daddy is home. You boys have been playing have you?

 

Hopalong, you been kicking behind for decades have you, boy? Boy, the

only behind you have ever kicked in your sorry life is your own behind

while you rolled around in your mama's womb.

 

Lame Brains, the only thing it looks like you have been doing for

decades is kissing Hopalong's behind while rolled around and kicked his

behind in his mama's womb.

 

Boys, I got the size 13 shoes with pointed steel tips that I am going to

put dead in your behinds and an 100 inch whip that I'll be dipping into

salt water from time to time and put it dead on your behinds, when I

feel like it.

 

Daddy is home boys -- look for me. <g>

Re: Alias - Correct once

 

Frank wrote:

> Charlie Tame wrote:

>

>>

>> The reality is that stopping "Casual" piracy achieves nothing because

>> anybody doing it "Casually" isn't going to buy a couple of hundred

>> dollars worth of CD anyway, they may lash out on a cracked version,

>> stick to what they have until the hardware falls over or get the

>> latest version of Linux for nothing :) Casual pirates will not buy

>> Office or other products that pro users may need so MS's alleged

>> losses are really wildly exaggerated.

>

> And you know all of this to be true because you've spent millions of $'s

> doing market research on the subject of software piracy...is that correct?

> Or is this what you in your little ms hating mind wish were true...lol!

> Frank

 

 

If I hated MS Frank I wouldn't be bothering to point out flaws in their

marketing strategy.

 

I have spent a long time in various MS forums but recently a number of

things have occurred that are going to cost MS eventually.

 

W2000 was a major leap forward over 98 / ME etc. Very stable, used it

for a long time. XP was good after SP1 and had a lot of features added.

Not a huge technological leap forward over 2000 but you got something

extra and nothing taken out.

 

Vista has lost OE which worked and had it replaced by a series of very

poor and much slower substitutes that still create problems for users.

UAC is "Different" than the old ActiveX warnings etc but really no

security improvement, just a nuisance. DRM has restricted things for

legitimate users to the point where using Windows for some media is

actually more difficult than other systems. Activation has gone off on

me so many times now it's pointed out the fact that MS systems are NOT

the way to go for a business than requires reliability, one simply

becomes dependent on MS too much. Driver signing is another symptom of

MS enforcing that dependency.

 

Basically I lost a number of features I liked and gained "Features" that

are no improvement, sometimes the opposite, and now have a system that

runs slower, does less, is no more secure and once occasionally accuses

me of being a thief whether I did anything to it or not.

 

For a system that's supposed to be easy to use something is wrong with

this picture Frank.

 

You know yourself that there is a limit to what security in an OS can

do. Nobody can stop a stupid user from becoming insecure. MS started off

with some very bad default settings which they eventually fixed and the

business systems went even further with IE restrictions. However that

was as far as they should have gone, after that it IS "User"

responsibility. Ordinary people are being asked to pay a lot for things

that most of them dont understand and which make their lives difficult,

yet actually don't work very well. When people turn up here for a bit of

help they are often insulted and treated as stupid because they, like

me, do not understand why a formerly helpful Microsoft has changed

things around just for the same of it, and (To them) made things much

more difficult for no obvious reason.

 

No matter what the EULA says people BOUGHT the computer and expect it to

be "THEIR" computer, not yours, or Microsoft's or anybody else's.

Spending a couple of thousand on hardware has not been too much of a

problem for me, maybe not for you, but for a great many people it IS a

problem and they have expectations. Whether these expectations comply

exactly with the letter of the law or the EULA is not the issue,

marketing is the issue, and people who are surprised or disappointed

deserve to have these difficulties explained and if possible improved

upon, not be treated to a tirade of insults as so often happens in these

groups. MS have aggravated some problems by their actions and criticims

need to be raised.

Re: Alias - Correct once

 

Charlie Lame Brains aka Dean Martin can't get the girls wrote:

 

<The bulls*it is snipped.>

 

You can run Charlie Lame Brains, like a little bi**h, but you can't hide

boy.

 

You are a big *boy* a big *man* in the NG that likes to run your mouth.

Where is that small package of yours you like to pull out in the NG with

a pair of *TWISERS*, boy?

 

Daddy is here.

Re: Alias - Correct once

 

In article <#rGJeTT5HHA.2752@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl>, charlie@tames.net

says...

> Hehe, all these posts by so called IT Pros claiming that activation is

> not a pain in the ass demonstrates that they are IT Pros only in their

> own minds :)

 

Charlie, with almost 3000 machines under my control, having activated

most of them in the last 2 years, same for all of their apps - very few

are on Volume Licenses, I can honestly say that Activation is less

painful than turning the computer on and waiting for windows to load.

 

The only hard part about Activation is getting my eyes to see the

difference between an 8 and a B or a Q and a O or a G and a 6 on those

little stickers.

 

I've only had to activate by phone 3 times in all that time, and it was

because I used the same key more than once by accident and they still

approved and activated it.

 

So, in your limited experience, it appears you've had problems with

activation, most don't, and while you have issues with it, most don't

and I would guess that my meager 3000 machines is a few more than you've

had experience with in your entire life, based on your comments and

manner of posting.

 

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Leythos

- Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum.

- Calling an illegal alien an "undocumented worker" is like calling a

drug dealer an "unlicensed pharmacist"

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Re: Alias - The Ubuntu Marketing Department back in full swing

 

Alias <iamalias@shoesgmail.com> wrote in news:fajfj4$md2$1@aioe.org:

>> hehehe...well that just turned out to be another one of alias fukkin

>> lies...in a continual, unrelenting string of lies.

>> He's a liar...plain and simple.

>> His coming back here just prove that fact.

>> Frank

>

> No, Frank the Vista General resident troll, I merely changed my mind.

> Live with it.

 

I think Frank has a problem believing that people do change their minds

sometimes.

 

And that people have free will to do so and think for themselves and come

to their own opinions and beliefs.

 

He's just bitter because everyone doesn't let MS think for them and

decide what is best for them.

 

He seems to think that just because MS is a huge international

corporation that does market research, they do everything right and

should not be questioned when it comes to their decisions. He's a 'yes

man' and never questions anything apparently.

The poster formerly known as the poster formerly known as Nina DiBoy

<nonee@none.not> wrote in news:faig01$od6$1@aioe.org:

>> I had a look on http://www.securityfocus.com/bid and searched for

>> Windows Vista Home Premium and got this: "No matching vulnerabilities

>> found".

>>

>> Marco

>

> Try searching for vendor MS and title vista, then hit search.

 

And apparently forgot to look at the 6 ones listed for IE7.

 

You'd have to, since IE is an 'integral part' of the OS, present in every

install, and still has the highest share of use.

Re: Alias - The Ubuntu Marketing Department back in full swing

 

DanS wrote:

> Alias <iamalias@shoesgmail.com> wrote in news:fajfj4$md2$1@aioe.org:

>

>>> hehehe...well that just turned out to be another one of alias fukkin

>>> lies...in a continual, unrelenting string of lies.

>>> He's a liar...plain and simple.

>>> His coming back here just prove that fact.

>>> Frank

>> No, Frank the Vista General resident troll, I merely changed my mind.

>> Live with it.

>

> I think Frank has a problem believing that people do change their minds

> sometimes.

>

> And that people have free will to do so and think for themselves and come

> to their own opinions and beliefs.

>

> He's just bitter because everyone doesn't let MS think for them and

> decide what is best for them.

>

> He seems to think that just because MS is a huge international

> corporation that does market research, they do everything right and

> should not be questioned when it comes to their decisions. He's a 'yes

> man' and never questions anything apparently.

>

>

>

 

If MS had really done any market research, they would have never

instituted WPA or WGA as that is the beginning of the end for MS. It's

the main reason I am using Ubuntu along with the added security that

Ubuntu offers over Windows.

 

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Re: Alias - Correct once

 

On Wed, 22 Aug 2007 22:27:59 -0700, Frank <fb@nospaner.cnm> wrote:

 

>> Casual piracy, that's a Microsoft term. By their definition, people just

>> copying software and giving it to friends. I believe that is barely a

>> problem at all.

>

>"You believe"...therein lies the problem dan. You don't accept what one

>of the world's largest multi-national corporations in the knows (not

>believes) based on their ability to monitor their own software usage on

>a global bases...MS does not "guess" when they make a market move. They

>don't have to.

 

Damn Frank, just when we thought it wasn't humanly possible for you to

try to craw higher up Microsoft's corporate butt, you go and show us

that you can. Amazing. The question, as always, what do you get out of

trying to defend Microsoft's policies? Please tell us WHY you are

always such a partisan putz.

>So you..."believe that (casual piracy)is barely a problem at all".

>Obviously MS doesn't.

>I'd put my money on MS.

 

What money? Please don't break open your piggy bank. I doubt you have

enough inside to buy ONE share of Microsoft common.

 

Your total lack on understanding how the world works isn't surprising.

Microsoft not only tolerates piracy, it's founder Bill Gates

ENCOURAGES it. That must throw some brainless doofus like you into a

tizzy.

Stephan Rose [Wed, 22 Aug 2007 18:05:51 -0500] wrote:

>On Wed, 22 Aug 2007 20:02:04 +0200, Marco Desloovere wrote:

>

>> Kerry Brown [Wed, 22 Aug 2007 07:18:09 -0700] wrote:

>>

>>>In my opinion your post is off topic and was crafted to cause a controversy.

>>>This sure seems like trolling to me. The best trolls use the truth as a

>>>basis for their posts. They are still trolls and more interested in

>>>generating controversy than actually helping anyone.

>>

>> Many people in this world cause controversy, but are not necessarily

>> trolls. Galileo Galilei created quite a stir with his then controversial

>> claim that the earth is revolving around the sun.

>>

>> I did not invent the information contained in the link of my OP.

>>

>> The point I'm making is to show that *all* operating systems are liable

>> to contain security vulnerabilities.

>

>And the point that everyone else is making that apparently zooms way above

>your head is that other than you, nobody really cares. We are all aware of

>that. =)

 

Well, this is the Usenet, so you know what to do - if you don't like a

certain discussion, simply ignore it, but then don't actively

participate and criticize at the same time. Also, please do not write

"we" when you mean just you and yourself. -)

>Well ok, a few zealots might not be. But then again, zealots (regardless of

>OS) will never see beyond or believe what they don't want. So you aren't

>going to convince them of anything.

 

I agree, this thread has really turned into the playground for the usual

lot ...erm... zealots. I should have known.

What a pity that we can't turn this sort of thread into renewable energy

for the good of this earth.

 

Marco

The poster formerly known as the poster formerly known as Nina DiBoy

[Wed, 22 Aug 2007 18:09:18 -0500] wrote:

>Marco Desloovere wrote:

>> The poster formerly known as 'The poster formerly known as Nina DiBoy'

>> [Wed, 22 Aug 2007 14:19:57 -0500] wrote:

>>

>>> Marco Desloovere wrote:

>>>> Leythos [Wed, 22 Aug 2007 08:31:03 -0400] wrote:

>>>>

>>>>> In article <fah9pp$9l6$1@aioe.org>, iamalias@shoesgmail.com says...

>>>>>>> Nope, Office programs get updates as they are ready, maybe you just

>>>>>>> don't have your machines configured properly. I see there our machines

>>>>>>> that have Update function set to download but not install (our choice)

>>>>>>> have Office, Windows, and other updates ready when we check). All of the

>>>>>>> workstations update all Windows, Office, Java, and Adobe apps without

>>>>>>> the user doing anything other than using the computer.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>> Bullsh¡t. Save your lies for the newbies. I know differently as do most

>>>>>> of the readers of this ng.

>>>>> Guess it just proves you don't have a clue about Windows Update and

>>>>> Microsoft Update services.

>>>> Why do you waste your time with that clueless nincompoop?

>>>>

>>>> And I totally agree with you, everything is also updated automatically

>>>> on my Windows Vista, including all the drivers and the things that you

>>>> already mentioned.

>>>>

>>>> Marco

>>> Drivers? From windows update? <shivers at the thought>

>>

>> Yes, there were three so far (since May 2007), and the message reads:

>> "This driver was provided by NVIDIA for support of NVIDIA nForce

>> Networking Controller."

>>

>> What's so bad about that?

>>

>> Marco

>

>If you have better luck than I, then that's great. But it's burned me

>too many times to trust driver updates from windows update.

 

But these updates are provided by NVIDIA, *not* by Microsoft.

 

Marco

The poster formerly known as the poster formerly known as Nina DiBoy

[Wed, 22 Aug 2007 18:14:08 -0500] wrote:

>Marco Desloovere wrote:

>> The poster formerly known as 'The poster formerly known as Nina DiBoy'

>> [Wed, 22 Aug 2007 14:18:57 -0500] wrote:

>>

>>> If it's fixed, it's not a problem if you update. If it's not a patched

>>> vulnerability, you are stuck with the problem weather you like it or

>>> not. MS has unpatched vulnerabilities in their OSes (Vista and XP). If

>>> Ubuntu has all of it's known vulnerabilites patched (at least all the

>>> ones on that page are), I would much prefer to run Ubuntu from a

>>> security standpoint.

>>

>> Could you show me an example of an unpatched security vulnerability in

>> Windows Vista?

>>

>> I had a look on http://www.securityfocus.com/bid and searched for

>> Windows Vista Home Premium and got this: "No matching vulnerabilities

>> found".

>>

>> Marco

>

>Try searching for vendor MS and title vista, then hit search.

 

On which other web site or using which tool?

I already searched on Security Focus.

 

Remember it was *your* claim that "MS has unpatched vulnerabilities in

their OSes (Vista and XP)".

 

Marco

Re: Alias - The Ubuntu Marketing Department back in full swing

 

The poster formerly known as the poster formerly known as Nina DiBoy

[Wed, 22 Aug 2007 18:08:01 -0500] wrote:

>Marco Desloovere wrote:

>> The poster formerly known as 'The poster formerly known as Nina DiBoy'

>> [Wed, 22 Aug 2007 15:21:37 -0500] wrote:

>>

>>> Marco Desloovere wrote:

>>>> Bill Yanaire [Wed, 22 Aug 2007 08:38:59 -0700] wrote:

>>>>

>>>>> After a two week vacation, Alias has come back to marketing for Ubuntu.

>>>> Yeah, remember his post (Message-ID:

>>>> <eeMB2np1HHA.4004@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl>) from August 4th:

>>>>

>>>> | Subject: It's been fun, folks ...

>>>> |

>>>> | ... but I'm outta here. After meditating on what Stephen Rose said about

>>>> | spamming, I came to the conclusion that he has a point.

>>>> |

>>>> | So, if anyone is interested in Ubuntu, you can email me, visit the

>>>> | Ubuntu forums or Google.

>>>> |

>>>> | As I don't have, nor plan to get, Vista, I am unsubscribing from this ng.

>>>> |

>>>> | --

>>>> | Alias

>>>>

>>>> This proves beyond any doubt that this guy is nothing but a troll full

>>>> of lies.

>>>>

>>>> Marco

>>> Hypocrite!

>>

>> Yeah, I guess he's still a kid in puberty with the young hormones ("My

>> OS is bigger and better than your OS ... ha-hah") doing weird things to

>> his developing mind...

>>

>> Marco

>

>I was talking about you, not him.

 

How can I possibly be a hypocrite while I'm speaking the truth?

Don't shoot the messenger!

 

Marco

DanS [Thu, 23 Aug 2007 07:49:16 -0500] wrote:

>The poster formerly known as the poster formerly known as Nina DiBoy

><nonee@none.not> wrote in news:faig01$od6$1@aioe.org:

>

>>> I had a look on http://www.securityfocus.com/bid and searched for

>>> Windows Vista Home Premium and got this: "No matching vulnerabilities

>>> found".

>>>

>>> Marco

>>

>> Try searching for vendor MS and title vista, then hit search.

>

>And apparently forgot to look at the 6 ones listed for IE7.

>

>You'd have to, since IE is an 'integral part' of the OS, present in every

>install, and still has the highest share of use.

 

I'm not using Internet Explorer.

I prefer Firefox.

 

Marco

Stephan Rose [Wed, 22 Aug 2007 17:44:52 -0500] wrote:

>On Thu, 23 Aug 2007 00:15:43 +0200, Marco Desloovere wrote:

>

>> The poster formerly known as 'The poster formerly known as Nina DiBoy'

>> [Wed, 22 Aug 2007 14:18:57 -0500] wrote:

>>

>>>If it's fixed, it's not a problem if you update. If it's not a patched

>>>vulnerability, you are stuck with the problem weather you like it or

>>>not. MS has unpatched vulnerabilities in their OSes (Vista and XP). If

>>>Ubuntu has all of it's known vulnerabilites patched (at least all the

>>>ones on that page are), I would much prefer to run Ubuntu from a

>>>security standpoint.

>>

>> Could you show me an example of an unpatched security vulnerability in

>> Windows Vista?

>>

>> I had a look on http://www.securityfocus.com/bid and searched for

>> Windows Vista Home Premium and got this: "No matching vulnerabilities

>> found".

>>

>

>Just because a 3rd party website is not aware of any does not mean there

>aren't (or are) any. When I was giving Vista a Trial I received security

>updates via windows update so there obviously were some...but yet that

>site shows none...

 

OK, fair enough, so where are these unpatched Windows Vista security

vulnerabilities right now?

 

Marco

Re: Alias - Correct once

 

On Wed, 22 Aug 2007 22:46:10 -0700, Frank <fb@nospaner.cnm> wrote:

>Charlie Tame wrote:

>

>>

>> The reality is that stopping "Casual" piracy achieves nothing because

>> anybody doing it "Casually" isn't going to buy a couple of hundred

>> dollars worth of CD anyway, they may lash out on a cracked version,

>> stick to what they have until the hardware falls over or get the latest

>> version of Linux for nothing :) Casual pirates will not buy Office or

>> other products that pro users may need so MS's alleged losses are really

>> wildly exaggerated.

>

>And you know all of this to be true because you've spent millions of $'s

>doing market research on the subject of software piracy...is that correct?

>Or is this what you in your little ms hating mind wish were true...lol!

>Frank

 

Get a grip you brainless dumbass. If as you imply Microsoft spent

millions on marketing research please tell us why they gave us a globe

named START to turn OFF our computers.

Marco Desloovere wrote:

> Stephan Rose [Wed, 22 Aug 2007 17:44:52 -0500] wrote:

>

>> On Thu, 23 Aug 2007 00:15:43 +0200, Marco Desloovere wrote:

>>

>>> The poster formerly known as 'The poster formerly known as Nina DiBoy'

>>> [Wed, 22 Aug 2007 14:18:57 -0500] wrote:

>>>

>>>> If it's fixed, it's not a problem if you update. If it's not a patched

>>>> vulnerability, you are stuck with the problem weather you like it or

>>>> not. MS has unpatched vulnerabilities in their OSes (Vista and XP). If

>>>> Ubuntu has all of it's known vulnerabilites patched (at least all the

>>>> ones on that page are), I would much prefer to run Ubuntu from a

>>>> security standpoint.

>>> Could you show me an example of an unpatched security vulnerability in

>>> Windows Vista?

>>>

>>> I had a look on http://www.securityfocus.com/bid and searched for

>>> Windows Vista Home Premium and got this: "No matching vulnerabilities

>>> found".

>>>

>> Just because a 3rd party website is not aware of any does not mean there

>> aren't (or are) any. When I was giving Vista a Trial I received security

>> updates via windows update so there obviously were some...but yet that

>> site shows none...

>

> OK, fair enough, so where are these unpatched Windows Vista security

> vulnerabilities right now?

>

> Marco

 

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=unpatched+Windows+Vista+security%0D%0Aunpatched+Windows+Vista+security+vulnerabilities&btnG=Google+Search

 

Enjoy.

 

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Re: Alias - Correct once

 

On Thu, 23 Aug 2007 08:34:54 -0400, Leythos <void@nowhere.lan> wrote:

>In article <#rGJeTT5HHA.2752@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl>, charlie@tames.net

>says...

>> Hehe, all these posts by so called IT Pros claiming that activation is

>> not a pain in the ass demonstrates that they are IT Pros only in their

>> own minds :)

>

>Charlie, with almost 3000 machines under my control, having activated

>most of them in the last 2 years, same for all of their apps - very few

>are on Volume Licenses, I can honestly say that Activation is less

>painful than turning the computer on and waiting for windows to load.

 

STILL mindless boasting. Damn fool, get a life!

>

>The only hard part about Activation is getting my eyes to see the

>difference between an 8 and a B or a Q and a O or a G and a 6 on those

>little stickers.

>

>I've only had to activate by phone 3 times in all that time, and it was

>because I used the same key more than once by accident and they still

>approved and activated it.

>

>So, in your limited experience, it appears you've had problems with

>activation, most don't, and while you have issues with it, most don't

>and I would guess that my meager 3000 machines is a few more than you've

>had experience with in your entire life, based on your comments and

>manner of posting.

 

I LOVE to expose phonies like you that lie their asses off or are just

so damn stupid it is obvious they don't know what they're talking

about.

 

Check out these article fool.

 

http://windowssecrets.com/comp/070315/

 

http://www.aeroxp.org/board/lofiversion/index.php?t5821.html

Re: Adam Jerry Lewis holds Charlie Lame Brains Martin's johnson.Adam likes the *boys*at the asylum.

 

Adam Hopalong aka NG Deputy Barney Fife and aka Jerry Lewis he likes the

*boys* wrote:

>> Charlie Lame Brains aka Dean that can't get the girls wrote:

 

<snipped>

>

> Step aside Charlie let me grip it for you, you brainless dumbass.

> I showed you a million times you brainless dumbass how to do it in this cell

> we share. When you get done Charlie, make sure you flush, brainless dumbass.

>

DanS wrote:

> The poster formerly known as the poster formerly known as Nina DiBoy

> <nonee@none.not> wrote in news:faig01$od6$1@aioe.org:

>

>>> I had a look on http://www.securityfocus.com/bid and searched for

>>> Windows Vista Home Premium and got this: "No matching vulnerabilities

>>> found".

>>>

>>> Marco

>> Try searching for vendor MS and title vista, then hit search.

>

> And apparently forgot to look at the 6 ones listed for IE7.

>

> You'd have to, since IE is an 'integral part' of the OS, present in every

> install, and still has the highest share of use.

 

Exactly!

 

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Marco Desloovere wrote:

> The poster formerly known as the poster formerly known as Nina DiBoy

> [Wed, 22 Aug 2007 18:14:08 -0500] wrote:

>

>> Marco Desloovere wrote:

>>> The poster formerly known as 'The poster formerly known as Nina DiBoy'

>>> [Wed, 22 Aug 2007 14:18:57 -0500] wrote:

>>>

>>>> If it's fixed, it's not a problem if you update. If it's not a patched

>>>> vulnerability, you are stuck with the problem weather you like it or

>>>> not. MS has unpatched vulnerabilities in their OSes (Vista and XP). If

>>>> Ubuntu has all of it's known vulnerabilites patched (at least all the

>>>> ones on that page are), I would much prefer to run Ubuntu from a

>>>> security standpoint.

>>> Could you show me an example of an unpatched security vulnerability in

>>> Windows Vista?

>>>

>>> I had a look on http://www.securityfocus.com/bid and searched for

>>> Windows Vista Home Premium and got this: "No matching vulnerabilities

>>> found".

>>>

>>> Marco

>> Try searching for vendor MS and title vista, then hit search.

>

> On which other web site or using which tool?

> I already searched on Security Focus.

>

> Remember it was *your* claim that "MS has unpatched vulnerabilities in

> their OSes (Vista and XP)".

>

> Marco

 

Yes, but you did not make a complete search on security focus. I'll

repeat the directions for your simple-minded benefit:

 

"Try vendor MS and title vista, then hit search."

 

You don't need to fill in any other fields and you will get a list of

results 2 pages long.

 

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legality."

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