Marco Desloovere wrote:

> Leythos [Tue, 21 Aug 2007 21:15:08 -0400] wrote:

>

>> In article <r1qmc3ppq63n1utng0abil663dirv4vi4u@4ax.com>,

>> marco_desloovere@yahoo.com says...

>>> Would you really trust a product riddled with so many security

>>> vulnerabilities?

>>> How many Ubuntu vulnerabilities have not yet been discovered?

>>>

>>> Beware, not for the faint of heart, this list is huge:

>>> http://www.ubuntu.com/usn

>> Alias and Adam are going to hate you - showing more than 500 exploits in

>> Ubuntu....

>

> Well, yeah, the truth is always painful... -)

>

> Marco

 

Speaking of the truth:

 

Fact: Windows is more prone to exploits than Linux.

 

Fact: No Linux boxes form a part of herd bots. Millions of Windows boxes

do and that's why we get so much spam.

 

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Marco Desloovere wrote:

> Frank [Tue, 21 Aug 2007 19:55:18 -0700] wrote:

>

>> Marco Desloovere wrote:

>>> Would you really trust a product riddled with so many security

>>> vulnerabilities?

>>> How many Ubuntu vulnerabilities have not yet been discovered?

>>>

>>> Beware, not for the faint of heart, this list is huge:

>>> http://www.ubuntu.com/usn

>>>

>>> Marco

>>

>> Uhhh...hold on one second...I see no need whatsoever to install any of

>> those "security updates'...seeing as how we've all been brainwashed into

>> believing that ubuntu is 100% bullet proof secure and needs no security

>> at all...it's safe that way out of the box, right?

>> Or did we get lied to?

>> Frank

>

> It just goes to show that there are no perfect operating systems, simply

> because there are no perfect human beings to create them.

>

> Marco

 

Fact: Windows is more prone to exploits than Linux.

 

Fact: No Linux boxes form a part of herd bots. Millions of Windows boxes

do and that's why we get so much spam.

 

Your promoting Windows does a big disservice to the Internet community

and you should be ashamed of yourself.

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In article <fah9pp$9l6$1@aioe.org>, iamalias@shoesgmail.com says...

> > Nope, Office programs get updates as they are ready, maybe you just

> > don't have your machines configured properly. I see there our machines

> > that have Update function set to download but not install (our choice)

> > have Office, Windows, and other updates ready when we check). All of the

> > workstations update all Windows, Office, Java, and Adobe apps without

> > the user doing anything other than using the computer.

> >

>

> Bullsh¡t. Save your lies for the newbies. I know differently as do most

> of the readers of this ng.

 

Guess it just proves you don't have a clue about Windows Update and

Microsoft Update services.

 

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Leythos [Wed, 22 Aug 2007 08:31:03 -0400] wrote:

>In article <fah9pp$9l6$1@aioe.org>, iamalias@shoesgmail.com says...

>> > Nope, Office programs get updates as they are ready, maybe you just

>> > don't have your machines configured properly. I see there our machines

>> > that have Update function set to download but not install (our choice)

>> > have Office, Windows, and other updates ready when we check). All of the

>> > workstations update all Windows, Office, Java, and Adobe apps without

>> > the user doing anything other than using the computer.

>> >

>>

>> Bullsh¡t. Save your lies for the newbies. I know differently as do most

>> of the readers of this ng.

>

>Guess it just proves you don't have a clue about Windows Update and

>Microsoft Update services.

 

Why do you waste your time with that clueless nincompoop?

 

And I totally agree with you, everything is also updated automatically

on my Windows Vista, including all the drivers and the things that you

already mentioned.

 

Marco

Leythos wrote:

> In article <fah9pp$9l6$1@aioe.org>, iamalias@shoesgmail.com says...

>>> Nope, Office programs get updates as they are ready, maybe you just

>>> don't have your machines configured properly. I see there our machines

>>> that have Update function set to download but not install (our choice)

>>> have Office, Windows, and other updates ready when we check). All of the

>>> workstations update all Windows, Office, Java, and Adobe apps without

>>> the user doing anything other than using the computer.

>>>

>> Bullsh¡t. Save your lies for the newbies. I know differently as do most

>> of the readers of this ng.

>

> Guess it just proves you don't have a clue about Windows Update and

> Microsoft Update services.

>

 

I was talking about programs that are not covered by Windows or

Microsoft Updates, of course!

 

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Marco Desloovere wrote:

> Leythos [Wed, 22 Aug 2007 08:31:03 -0400] wrote:

>

>> In article <fah9pp$9l6$1@aioe.org>, iamalias@shoesgmail.com says...

>>>> Nope, Office programs get updates as they are ready, maybe you just

>>>> don't have your machines configured properly. I see there our machines

>>>> that have Update function set to download but not install (our choice)

>>>> have Office, Windows, and other updates ready when we check). All of the

>>>> workstations update all Windows, Office, Java, and Adobe apps without

>>>> the user doing anything other than using the computer.

>>>>

>>> Bullsh¡t. Save your lies for the newbies. I know differently as do most

>>> of the readers of this ng.

>> Guess it just proves you don't have a clue about Windows Update and

>> Microsoft Update services.

>

> Why do you waste your time with that clueless nincompoop?

 

Was the insult necessary?

> And I totally agree with you, everything is also updated automatically

> on my Windows Vista, including all the drivers and the things that you

> already mentioned.

>

> Marco

 

Java is not. Flash is not. Adobe Reader is not. Firefox is not.

Thunderbird is not, etc., etc., etc. If you get your hardware drivers

from Windows or Microsoft Updates, you're asking for trouble. You should

go to the hardware manufacturer's web site for those updates that are

NOT automatic.

 

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In article <fahdph$m0n$3@aioe.org>, iamalias@shoesgmail.com says...

> Marco Desloovere wrote:

> > Leythos [Wed, 22 Aug 2007 08:31:03 -0400] wrote:

> >

> >> In article <fah9pp$9l6$1@aioe.org>, iamalias@shoesgmail.com says...

> >>>> Nope, Office programs get updates as they are ready, maybe you just

> >>>> don't have your machines configured properly. I see there our machines

> >>>> that have Update function set to download but not install (our choice)

> >>>> have Office, Windows, and other updates ready when we check). All of the

> >>>> workstations update all Windows, Office, Java, and Adobe apps without

> >>>> the user doing anything other than using the computer.

> >>>>

> >>> Bullsh¡t. Save your lies for the newbies. I know differently as do most

> >>> of the readers of this ng.

> >> Guess it just proves you don't have a clue about Windows Update and

> >> Microsoft Update services.

> >

> > Why do you waste your time with that clueless nincompoop?

>

> Was the insult necessary?

>

> > And I totally agree with you, everything is also updated automatically

> > on my Windows Vista, including all the drivers and the things that you

> > already mentioned.

> >

> > Marco

>

> Java is not. Flash is not. Adobe Reader is not. Firefox is not.

> Thunderbird is not, etc., etc., etc.

 

Those products, not included with the OS, are updated by their own

use/connection by default. You have to tell them NOT to update to stop

their getting automatic updates. I've not had to manually update any of

those products on any computer under our control, they all download and

install with a single click.

 

The MS updates install on their own, no action needed.

> If you get your hardware drivers

> from Windows or Microsoft Updates, you're asking for trouble. You should

> go to the hardware manufacturer's web site for those updates that are

> NOT automatic.

 

And with few exceptions, even the hardware updates work. The same is

true for Linux, I've had kernel updates render Linux unbootable, same

for Windows updates.

 

Now, keep spreading your BS, you seem to have a LOT of it and like to

spew it, showing that you are just here to try and show your ANT-MS side

and that you don't really understand or use Windows.

 

 

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In article <fahdlt$m0n$2@aioe.org>, iamalias@shoesgmail.com says...

> Leythos wrote:

> > In article <fah9pp$9l6$1@aioe.org>, iamalias@shoesgmail.com says...

> >>> Nope, Office programs get updates as they are ready, maybe you just

> >>> don't have your machines configured properly. I see there our machines

> >>> that have Update function set to download but not install (our choice)

> >>> have Office, Windows, and other updates ready when we check). All of the

> >>> workstations update all Windows, Office, Java, and Adobe apps without

> >>> the user doing anything other than using the computer.

> >>>

> >> Bullsh¡t. Save your lies for the newbies. I know differently as do most

> >> of the readers of this ng.

> >

> > Guess it just proves you don't have a clue about Windows Update and

> > Microsoft Update services.

> >

>

> I was talking about programs that are not covered by Windows or

> Microsoft Updates, of course!

 

Still clueless - all of the programs you've mentioned provide automatic

updates and downloads unless you disable that function.

 

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Leythos wrote:

> In article <fahdph$m0n$3@aioe.org>, iamalias@shoesgmail.com says...

>> Marco Desloovere wrote:

>>> Leythos [Wed, 22 Aug 2007 08:31:03 -0400] wrote:

>>>

>>>> In article <fah9pp$9l6$1@aioe.org>, iamalias@shoesgmail.com says...

>>>>>> Nope, Office programs get updates as they are ready, maybe you just

>>>>>> don't have your machines configured properly. I see there our machines

>>>>>> that have Update function set to download but not install (our choice)

>>>>>> have Office, Windows, and other updates ready when we check). All of the

>>>>>> workstations update all Windows, Office, Java, and Adobe apps without

>>>>>> the user doing anything other than using the computer.

>>>>>>

>>>>> Bullsh¡t. Save your lies for the newbies. I know differently as do most

>>>>> of the readers of this ng.

>>>> Guess it just proves you don't have a clue about Windows Update and

>>>> Microsoft Update services.

>>> Why do you waste your time with that clueless nincompoop?

>> Was the insult necessary?

>>

>>> And I totally agree with you, everything is also updated automatically

>>> on my Windows Vista, including all the drivers and the things that you

>>> already mentioned.

>>>

>>> Marco

>> Java is not. Flash is not. Adobe Reader is not. Firefox is not.

>> Thunderbird is not, etc., etc., etc.

>

> Those products, not included with the OS, are updated by their own

> use/connection by default. You have to tell them NOT to update to stop

> their getting automatic updates. I've not had to manually update any of

> those products on any computer under our control, they all download and

> install with a single click.

 

Um, if you don't open them, they won't tell you squat. With Ubuntu, you

don't need to open them to be informed that there is an update. Get it yet?

>

> The MS updates install on their own, no action needed.

 

If you plan to accept all the updates, true. I, for one, don't want

WGA/N, WMP 11 or IE7 on my computers.

>

>> If you get your hardware drivers

>> from Windows or Microsoft Updates, you're asking for trouble. You should

>> go to the hardware manufacturer's web site for those updates that are

>> NOT automatic.

>

> And with few exceptions, even the hardware updates work. The same is

> true for Linux, I've had kernel updates render Linux unbootable, same

> for Windows updates.

 

You don't use Ubuntu. That's the distro I am talking about.

>

> Now, keep spreading your BS, you seem to have a LOT of it and like to

> spew it, showing that you are just here to try and show your ANT-MS side

> and that you don't really understand or use Windows.

>

>

 

YOU don't understand English, much less Windows!

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Leythos wrote:

> In article <fahdlt$m0n$2@aioe.org>, iamalias@shoesgmail.com says...

>> Leythos wrote:

>>> In article <fah9pp$9l6$1@aioe.org>, iamalias@shoesgmail.com says...

>>>>> Nope, Office programs get updates as they are ready, maybe you just

>>>>> don't have your machines configured properly. I see there our machines

>>>>> that have Update function set to download but not install (our choice)

>>>>> have Office, Windows, and other updates ready when we check). All of the

>>>>> workstations update all Windows, Office, Java, and Adobe apps without

>>>>> the user doing anything other than using the computer.

>>>>>

>>>> Bullsh¡t. Save your lies for the newbies. I know differently as do most

>>>> of the readers of this ng.

>>> Guess it just proves you don't have a clue about Windows Update and

>>> Microsoft Update services.

>>>

>> I was talking about programs that are not covered by Windows or

>> Microsoft Updates, of course!

>

> Still clueless - all of the programs you've mentioned provide automatic

> updates and downloads unless you disable that function.

>

 

False (again). I just opened Spybot and no notification. I had to

*check* for updates and there were some. Same for Ad Aware. Same for

Spywareblaster or Spywareguard. Same for Java. Same for Adobe Reader.

Same for Flash. Same for *most* programs. The hardware manufacturer's

*never* tell you if there's an update for your video card, BIOS, audio

card, etc.

 

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In my opinion your post is off topic and was crafted to cause a controversy.

This sure seems like trolling to me. The best trolls use the truth as a

basis for their posts. They are still trolls and more interested in

generating controversy than actually helping anyone.

 

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Microsoft MVP - Shell/User

http://www.vistahelp.ca

 

 

"Marco Desloovere" <marco_desloovere@yahoo.com> wrote in message

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> Kerry Brown [Tue, 21 Aug 2007 17:47:42 -0700] wrote:

>

>>Yes, all complex programs including OS' have bugs that can possibly be

>>exploited. Was this news to you or are you trolling?

>

> It's supposed to be a message to all those misguided Ubuntu trolls in

> this Windows Vista group.

>

> All computer operating systems have one thing in common: they are

> created by human beings all human beings make mistakes.

> Therefore, *all* operating systems are prone to security

> vulnerabilities, because of common *human* errors, and not because one

> is called Microsoft Windows and the other Ubuntu Linux or whatever.

>

> Marco

Alias wrote:

> Marco Desloovere wrote:

>

>> Kerry Brown [Tue, 21 Aug 2007 17:47:42 -0700] wrote:

>>

>>> Yes, all complex programs including OS' have bugs that can possibly

>>> be exploited. Was this news to you or are you trolling?

>>

>>

>> It's supposed to be a message to all those misguided Ubuntu trolls in

>> this Windows Vista group.

>>

>> All computer operating systems have one thing in common: they are

>> created by human beings all human beings make mistakes.

>> Therefore, *all* operating systems are prone to security

>> vulnerabilities, because of common *human* errors, and not because one

>> is called Microsoft Windows and the other Ubuntu Linux or whatever.

>>

>> Marco

>

>

> Fact: Windows is more prone to exploits than Linux.

>

>

> Fact: No Linux boxes form a part of herd bots. Millions of Windows boxes

> do and that's why we get so much spam.

>

So you came back to ng to spread more of your insidious lies huh?

Well, you'll not get by with doing it again!

Liar!

Frank

Alias wrote:

> Marco Desloovere wrote:

>

>> Frank [Tue, 21 Aug 2007 19:55:18 -0700] wrote:

>>

>>> Marco Desloovere wrote:

>>>

>>>> Would you really trust a product riddled with so many security

>>>> vulnerabilities?

>>>> How many Ubuntu vulnerabilities have not yet been discovered?

>>>>

>>>> Beware, not for the faint of heart, this list is huge:

>>>> http://www.ubuntu.com/usn

>>>>

>>>> Marco

>>>

>>>

>>> Uhhh...hold on one second...I see no need whatsoever to install any

>>> of those "security updates'...seeing as how we've all been

>>> brainwashed into believing that ubuntu is 100% bullet proof secure

>>> and needs no security at all...it's safe that way out of the box, right?

>>> Or did we get lied to?

>>> Frank

>>

>>

>> It just goes to show that there are no perfect operating systems, simply

>> because there are no perfect human beings to create them.

>>

>> Marco

>

>

> Fact: Windows is more prone to exploits than Linux.

>

> Fact: No Linux boxes form a part of herd bots. Millions of Windows boxes

> do and that's why we get so much spam.

>

> Your promoting Windows does a big disservice to the Internet community

> and you should be ashamed of yourself.

 

POS liar!

Frank

In article <Ovcm8SM5HHA.484@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl>,

iamalias@shoesgmail.com. says...

> Leythos wrote:

> > In article <fahdlt$m0n$2@aioe.org>, iamalias@shoesgmail.com says...

> >> Leythos wrote:

> >>> In article <fah9pp$9l6$1@aioe.org>, iamalias@shoesgmail.com says...

> >>>>> Nope, Office programs get updates as they are ready, maybe you just

> >>>>> don't have your machines configured properly. I see there our machines

> >>>>> that have Update function set to download but not install (our choice)

> >>>>> have Office, Windows, and other updates ready when we check). All of the

> >>>>> workstations update all Windows, Office, Java, and Adobe apps without

> >>>>> the user doing anything other than using the computer.

> >>>>>

> >>>> Bullsh¡t. Save your lies for the newbies. I know differently as do most

> >>>> of the readers of this ng.

> >>> Guess it just proves you don't have a clue about Windows Update and

> >>> Microsoft Update services.

> >>>

> >> I was talking about programs that are not covered by Windows or

> >> Microsoft Updates, of course!

> >

> > Still clueless - all of the programs you've mentioned provide automatic

> > updates and downloads unless you disable that function.

> >

>

> False (again). I just opened Spybot and no notification. I had to

> *check* for updates and there were some. Same for Ad Aware. Same for

> Spywareblaster or Spywareguard. Same for Java. Same for Adobe Reader.

> Same for Flash. Same for *most* programs. The hardware manufacturer's

> *never* tell you if there's an update for your video card, BIOS, audio

> card, etc.

 

If you notice, I didn't say anything about SpyBot, or spywareblaster or

spywareguard - they are not needed and don't get used on my systems.

 

As for Java it loads an updater unless you disable it - so, it will

check for updates - yours must be very old and exploitable if you don't

have the versions that auto-update.

 

As for Adobe, flash, and most other programs, UNLESS YOU DISABLE THE

UPDATE CHECK FUNCTION, they will check for updates on their own, no

manual click needed. Now, you might be running a very old version that

doesn't update or check, but that means you're not current and that you

still don't know what you're talking about.

 

As for hardware/BIOS/Audio - seems strange that you bring that up, they

also don't tell you there are updates for Linux, the community has to

make them available for inclusion in your "automatic" update that you

claim is automatic.

 

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Frank blustered and his face turned red as he pounded with one finger on

his keyboard and wrote:

> So you came back to ng to spread more of your insidious lies huh?

> Well, you'll not get by with doing it again!

> Liar!

> Frank

 

I see you're still the buffoon you've always been.

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Leythos wrote:

> In article <Ovcm8SM5HHA.484@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl>,

> iamalias@shoesgmail.com. says...

>> Leythos wrote:

>>> In article <fahdlt$m0n$2@aioe.org>, iamalias@shoesgmail.com says...

>>>> Leythos wrote:

>>>>> In article <fah9pp$9l6$1@aioe.org>, iamalias@shoesgmail.com says...

>>>>>>> Nope, Office programs get updates as they are ready, maybe you just

>>>>>>> don't have your machines configured properly. I see there our machines

>>>>>>> that have Update function set to download but not install (our choice)

>>>>>>> have Office, Windows, and other updates ready when we check). All of the

>>>>>>> workstations update all Windows, Office, Java, and Adobe apps without

>>>>>>> the user doing anything other than using the computer.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>> Bullsh¡t. Save your lies for the newbies. I know differently as do most

>>>>>> of the readers of this ng.

>>>>> Guess it just proves you don't have a clue about Windows Update and

>>>>> Microsoft Update services.

>>>>>

>>>> I was talking about programs that are not covered by Windows or

>>>> Microsoft Updates, of course!

>>> Still clueless - all of the programs you've mentioned provide automatic

>>> updates and downloads unless you disable that function.

>>>

>> False (again). I just opened Spybot and no notification. I had to

>> *check* for updates and there were some. Same for Ad Aware. Same for

>> Spywareblaster or Spywareguard. Same for Java. Same for Adobe Reader.

>> Same for Flash. Same for *most* programs. The hardware manufacturer's

>> *never* tell you if there's an update for your video card, BIOS, audio

>> card, etc.

>

> If you notice, I didn't say anything about SpyBot, or spywareblaster or

> spywareguard - they are not needed and don't get used on my systems.

>

> As for Java it loads an updater unless you disable it - so, it will

> check for updates - yours must be very old and exploitable if you don't

> have the versions that auto-update.

>

> As for Adobe, flash, and most other programs, UNLESS YOU DISABLE THE

> UPDATE CHECK FUNCTION, they will check for updates on their own, no

> manual click needed. Now, you might be running a very old version that

> doesn't update or check, but that means you're not current and that you

> still don't know what you're talking about.

>

> As for hardware/BIOS/Audio - seems strange that you bring that up, they

> also don't tell you there are updates for Linux, the community has to

> make them available for inclusion in your "automatic" update that you

> claim is automatic.

>

 

Keep telling yourself your lies because you're the ONLY one who believes

them.

 

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Leythos wrote:

> In article <Ovcm8SM5HHA.484@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl>,

> iamalias@shoesgmail.com. says...

>> Leythos wrote:

>>> In article <fahdlt$m0n$2@aioe.org>, iamalias@shoesgmail.com says...

>>>> Leythos wrote:

>>>>> In article <fah9pp$9l6$1@aioe.org>, iamalias@shoesgmail.com says...

>>>>>>> Nope, Office programs get updates as they are ready, maybe you just

>>>>>>> don't have your machines configured properly. I see there our machines

>>>>>>> that have Update function set to download but not install (our choice)

>>>>>>> have Office, Windows, and other updates ready when we check). All of the

>>>>>>> workstations update all Windows, Office, Java, and Adobe apps without

>>>>>>> the user doing anything other than using the computer.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>> Bullsh¡t. Save your lies for the newbies. I know differently as do most

>>>>>> of the readers of this ng.

>>>>> Guess it just proves you don't have a clue about Windows Update and

>>>>> Microsoft Update services.

>>>>>

>>>> I was talking about programs that are not covered by Windows or

>>>> Microsoft Updates, of course!

>>> Still clueless - all of the programs you've mentioned provide automatic

>>> updates and downloads unless you disable that function.

>>>

>> False (again). I just opened Spybot and no notification. I had to

>> *check* for updates and there were some. Same for Ad Aware. Same for

>> Spywareblaster or Spywareguard. Same for Java. Same for Adobe Reader.

>> Same for Flash. Same for *most* programs. The hardware manufacturer's

>> *never* tell you if there's an update for your video card, BIOS, audio

>> card, etc.

>

> If you notice, I didn't say anything about SpyBot, or spywareblaster or

> spywareguard - they are not needed and don't get used on my systems.

 

A lot of people use them.

>

> As for Java it loads an updater unless you disable it - so, it will

> check for updates - yours must be very old and exploitable if you don't

> have the versions that auto-update.

 

I have the latest version and one has to check for updates.

>

> As for Adobe, flash, and most other programs, UNLESS YOU DISABLE THE

> UPDATE CHECK FUNCTION, they will check for updates on their own, no

> manual click needed.

 

False.

> Now, you might be running a very old version that

> doesn't update or check, but that means you're not current and that you

> still don't know what you're talking about.

 

I have the latest versions.

>

> As for hardware/BIOS/Audio - seems strange that you bring that up, they

> also don't tell you there are updates for Linux, the community has to

> make them available for inclusion in your "automatic" update that you

> claim is automatic.

 

So you get them automatically. With Windows you don't.

 

Game, set, match.

 

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In article <fahjat$8jq$1@aioe.org>, iamalias@shoesgmail.com says...

> > As for Java it loads an updater unless you disable it - so, it will

> > check for updates - yours must be very old and exploitable if you don't

> > have the versions that auto-update.

>

> I have the latest version and one has to check for updates.

 

Then you disabled the automatic update function.

> > As for Adobe, flash, and most other programs, UNLESS YOU DISABLE THE

> > UPDATE CHECK FUNCTION, they will check for updates on their own, no

> > manual click needed.

>

> False.

 

Nope, you just appear to have disabled it or lied again.

> > Now, you might be running a very old version that

> > doesn't update or check, but that means you're not current and that you

> > still don't know what you're talking about.

>

> I have the latest versions.

 

Then you also have the update function that was included, so did you

disable it or are you telling lies again?

> > As for hardware/BIOS/Audio - seems strange that you bring that up, they

> > also don't tell you there are updates for Linux, the community has to

> > make them available for inclusion in your "automatic" update that you

> > claim is automatic.

>

> So you get them automatically. With Windows you don't.

 

Wrong, you only get them if a member of the community collects them. The

vendors don't make them "automatically" available though the different

update services....

 

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Alias wrote:

> Frank blustered and his face turned red as he pounded with one finger on

> his keyboard and wrote:

>

>> So you came back to ng to spread more of your insidious lies huh?

>> Well, you'll not get by with doing it again!

>> Liar!

>> Frank

>

>

> I see you're still the buffoon you've always been.

 

Get real!

You're a known liar.

You come back here to spread more lies about linux and Vista, in this

Windows Vista ng...you don't have, nor, according to your own admission,

can't afford to purchase Vista...so you slam everything MS.

Now who's the fukkin buffoon...you jackass loser!

Frank

On Wed, 22 Aug 2007 08:10:48 -0700, Frank <fb@nospaner.cnm> wrote:

>Alias wrote:

>> Frank blustered and his face turned red as he pounded with one finger on

>> his keyboard and wrote:

>>

>>> So you came back to ng to spread more of your insidious lies huh?

>>> Well, you'll not get by with doing it again!

>>> Liar!

>>> Frank

>>

>>

>> I see you're still the buffoon you've always been.

>

>Get real!

>You're a known liar.

 

When you going to tell us how much Microsoft pays you to be their

shill in this newsgroup?

Alias - The Ubuntu Marketing Department back in full swing

 

After a two week vacation, Alias has come back to marketing for Ubuntu.

 

 

"Alias" <iamalias@shoesgmail.com> wrote in message

news:fah9tu$9l6$3@aioe.org...

> Marco Desloovere wrote:

>> Frank [Tue, 21 Aug 2007 19:55:18 -0700] wrote:

>>

>>> Marco Desloovere wrote:

>>>> Would you really trust a product riddled with so many security

>>>> vulnerabilities?

>>>> How many Ubuntu vulnerabilities have not yet been discovered?

>>>>

>>>> Beware, not for the faint of heart, this list is huge:

>>>> http://www.ubuntu.com/usn

>>>>

>>>> Marco

>>>

>>> Uhhh...hold on one second...I see no need whatsoever to install any of

>>> those "security updates'...seeing as how we've all been brainwashed into

>>> believing that ubuntu is 100% bullet proof secure and needs no security

>>> at all...it's safe that way out of the box, right?

>>> Or did we get lied to?

>>> Frank

>>

>> It just goes to show that there are no perfect operating systems, simply

>> because there are no perfect human beings to create them.

>>

>> Marco

>

> Fact: Windows is more prone to exploits than Linux.

>

> Fact: No Linux boxes form a part of herd bots. Millions of Windows boxes

> do and that's why we get so much spam.

>

> Your promoting Windows does a big disservice to the Internet community and

> you should be ashamed of yourself.

> --

> Alias

> To email me, remove shoes

Leythos wrote:

> In article <faft25$hbt$1@aioe.org>, iamalias@shoesgmail.com says...

>> I get a little icon on the upper panel telling me there are updates.

>> Don't have to check every single program I have installed to know if

>> there is one or not which is one of many reasons that Ubuntu is more

>> user friendly than Windows.

>

> All of the programs provided by MS get updates without me having to do

> anything... Windows XP, Office 2003/2007... Server 2003....

>

> My systems update as reliably as the last one I had running Ubuntu...

>

 

Yeah, which means they can install anything they want on there like DRM,

WGA/N, WPA, and spontaneously reboot your machine even if that is

incredibly disruptive to you. <dripping sarcasm>How lucky you

are.</dripping sarcasm>

 

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legality."

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Adam Albright wrote:

> On Wed, 22 Aug 2007 08:10:48 -0700, Frank <fb@nospaner.cnm> wrote:

>

>

>>Alias wrote:

>>

>>>Frank blustered and his face turned red as he pounded with one finger on

>>>his keyboard and wrote:

>>>

>>>

>>>>So you came back to ng to spread more of your insidious lies huh?

>>>>Well, you'll not get by with doing it again!

>>>>Liar!

>>>>Frank

>>>

>>>

>>>I see you're still the buffoon you've always been.

>>

>>Get real!

>>You're a known liar.

>

>

> When you going to tell us how much Microsoft pays you to be their

> shill in this newsgroup?

>

 

Sorry pal, but you're the one who has admitted to being a paid

accountant liar for a group of blood sucking attorneys.

So go screw yourself or one of your vid buddies you moron!

Frank

Leythos wrote:

> In article <fahjat$8jq$1@aioe.org>, iamalias@shoesgmail.com says...

>>> As for Java it loads an updater unless you disable it - so, it will

>>> check for updates - yours must be very old and exploitable if you don't

>>> have the versions that auto-update.

>> I have the latest version and one has to check for updates.

>

> Then you disabled the automatic update function.

>

>>> As for Adobe, flash, and most other programs, UNLESS YOU DISABLE THE

>>> UPDATE CHECK FUNCTION, they will check for updates on their own, no

>>> manual click needed.

>> False.

>

> Nope, you just appear to have disabled it or lied again.

 

Not disabled and, without opening the Java console neither you nor I

will be informed of any updates.

>

>>> Now, you might be running a very old version that

>>> doesn't update or check, but that means you're not current and that you

>>> still don't know what you're talking about.

>> I have the latest versions.

>

> Then you also have the update function that was included, so did you

> disable it or are you telling lies again?

 

Again, without going to the Flash program, no auto updates.

>

>>> As for hardware/BIOS/Audio - seems strange that you bring that up, they

>>> also don't tell you there are updates for Linux, the community has to

>>> make them available for inclusion in your "automatic" update that you

>>> claim is automatic.

>> So you get them automatically. With Windows you don't.

>

> Wrong, you only get them if a member of the community collects them. The

> vendors don't make them "automatically" available though the different

> update services....

>

 

Nonetheless, one gets them automatically, regardless of where they come

from.

 

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Adam Albright wrote:

> On Wed, 22 Aug 2007 08:10:48 -0700, Frank <fb@nospaner.cnm> wrote:

>

>> Alias wrote:

>>> Frank blustered and his face turned red as he pounded with one finger on

>>> his keyboard and wrote:

>>>

>>>> So you came back to ng to spread more of your insidious lies huh?

>>>> Well, you'll not get by with doing it again!

>>>> Liar!

>>>> Frank

>>>

>>> I see you're still the buffoon you've always been.

>> Get real!

>> You're a known liar.

>

> When you going to tell us how much Microsoft pays you to be their

> shill in this newsgroup?

>

 

In all fairness, Adam, who would pay Frank to do anything? All Frank has

is insults. He reminds me of Archie Bunker.

 

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