Stephan Rose [Thu, 23 Aug 2007 11:49:23 -0500] wrote:

>On Thu, 23 Aug 2007 16:11:24 +0200, Marco Desloovere wrote:

>

>> Stephan Rose [Wed, 22 Aug 2007 17:44:52 -0500] wrote:

>>

>>>On Thu, 23 Aug 2007 00:15:43 +0200, Marco Desloovere wrote:

>>>

>>>> The poster formerly known as 'The poster formerly known as Nina DiBoy'

>>>> [Wed, 22 Aug 2007 14:18:57 -0500] wrote:

>>>>

>>>>>If it's fixed, it's not a problem if you update. If it's not a patched

>>>>>vulnerability, you are stuck with the problem weather you like it or

>>>>>not. MS has unpatched vulnerabilities in their OSes (Vista and XP). If

>>>>>Ubuntu has all of it's known vulnerabilites patched (at least all the

>>>>>ones on that page are), I would much prefer to run Ubuntu from a

>>>>>security standpoint.

>>>>

>>>> Could you show me an example of an unpatched security vulnerability in

>>>> Windows Vista?

>>>>

>>>> I had a look on http://www.securityfocus.com/bid and searched for

>>>> Windows Vista Home Premium and got this: "No matching vulnerabilities

>>>> found".

>>>>

>>>

>>>Just because a 3rd party website is not aware of any does not mean there

>>>aren't (or are) any. When I was giving Vista a Trial I received security

>>>updates via windows update so there obviously were some...but yet that

>>>site shows none...

>>

>> OK, fair enough, so where are these unpatched Windows Vista security

>> vulnerabilities right now?

>

>Every OS has unpatched Vulnerabilities, I don't care if it is Vista,

>MacOS, Ubuntu, <insert name here>.

>

>They all do across the board. Period. Anyone who claims otherwise needs

>their head examined or shouldn't be near a computer.

>

>A vulnerability needs to be discovered for it to be able to be patched. So

>as long as it is not found, it is not patched because it can't be.

>

>What's more important isn't the number of vulnerabilities in one OS vs the

>other OS. That's completely irrelevant.

>

>The only important number is the number of *discovered but unpatched*

>vulnerabilities and how likely they are actually to occur. Just because a

>vulnerability exists does not mean it affects a User if it is in an

>component that the user doesn't even have installed or does not use.

 

Yes, I know all that and I agree with you - in a previous life I was a

programmer.

 

My question concerned the security vulnerabilities of Windows Vista. Not

every vulnerability is of a critical nature.

Many web sites publish these security vulnerabilities, but which one is

a credible source.

 

Marco

Re: Alias - The Ubuntu Marketing Department back in full swing

 

The poster formerly known as 'The poster formerly known as Nina DiBoy'

[Thu, 23 Aug 2007 16:32:57 -0500] wrote:

>Marco Desloovere wrote:

>> The poster formerly known as 'The poster formerly known as Nina DiBoy'

>> [Thu, 23 Aug 2007 12:02:35 -0500] wrote:

>>

>>> Marco Desloovere wrote:

>>>> The poster formerly known as 'The poster formerly known as Nina DiBoy'

>>>> [Thu, 23 Aug 2007 10:50:25 -0500] wrote:

>>>>

>>>>> Marco Desloovere wrote:

>>>>>> The poster formerly known as the poster formerly known as Nina DiBoy

>>>>>> [Wed, 22 Aug 2007 18:08:01 -0500] wrote:

>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Marco Desloovere wrote:

>>>>>>>> The poster formerly known as 'The poster formerly known as Nina DiBoy'

>>>>>>>> [Wed, 22 Aug 2007 15:21:37 -0500] wrote:

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> Marco Desloovere wrote:

>>>>>>>>>> Bill Yanaire [Wed, 22 Aug 2007 08:38:59 -0700] wrote:

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> After a two week vacation, Alias has come back to marketing for Ubuntu.

>>>>>>>>>> Yeah, remember his post (Message-ID:

>>>>>>>>>> <eeMB2np1HHA.4004@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl>) from August 4th:

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>> | Subject: It's been fun, folks ...

>>>>>>>>>> |

>>>>>>>>>> | ... but I'm outta here. After meditating on what Stephen Rose said about

>>>>>>>>>> | spamming, I came to the conclusion that he has a point.

>>>>>>>>>> |

>>>>>>>>>> | So, if anyone is interested in Ubuntu, you can email me, visit the

>>>>>>>>>> | Ubuntu forums or Google.

>>>>>>>>>> |

>>>>>>>>>> | As I don't have, nor plan to get, Vista, I am unsubscribing from this ng.

>>>>>>>>>> |

>>>>>>>>>> | --

>>>>>>>>>> | Alias

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>> This proves beyond any doubt that this guy is nothing but a troll full

>>>>>>>>>> of lies.

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>> Marco

>>>>>>>>> Hypocrite!

>>>>>>>> Yeah, I guess he's still a kid in puberty with the young hormones ("My

>>>>>>>> OS is bigger and better than your OS ... ha-hah") doing weird things to

>>>>>>>> his developing mind...

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> Marco

>>>>>>> I was talking about you, not him.

>>>>>> How can I possibly be a hypocrite while I'm speaking the truth?

>>>>>> Don't shoot the messenger!

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Marco

>>>>> You are being a hypocrite because you are calling alias a troll for

>>>>> posting ubuntu stuff, yet you do the same yourself in this very group,

>>>>> just like Dick (Richard) Urban, MVP did. Dick should stop setting such

>>>>> a bad example for the rest of the kiddies in this group!

>>>>>

>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.windows.vista.general/msg/8f9e4b23ebc52750

>>>> I don't agree.

>>>>

>>>> Again you are shooting at the messenger, only because *you* don't like

>>>> the message.

>>>> That's silly.

>>>>

>>>> Marco

>>>

>>> 'The Message' is off topic and makes you look like a troll. If you are

>>> the messenger, what higher authority charged you with the divine task of

>>> making that post here?

>>>

>>> Get serious! It makes you look like a Ballmer Butt Boy and an MS shill.

>>

>> You must be joking!

>>

>> Do you really believe that I need your permission to post in this group

>> here?

>>

>

>No, and I'm not sure where you get that idea either.

>

>> If my message is off topic, then how is possible that it generated such

>> an enormous and totally unexpected response?

>

>You just defined the very art of trolling.

>

>> Obviously some people felt the need to vent, obviously my message is not

>> off topic.

>

>How is Ubuntu not off topic in a vista newsgroup?

>

>>

>> This is the Usenet, if you don't like a thread, simply skip it, but

>> don't tell me what I can and cannot do.

>>

>> Marco

>

>I never did tell you 'what you can or cannot do'. Just stating an

>observation.

 

You are quite obviously spoiling for a flame war.

I am not interested.

End of discussion.

 

Marco

"Alias" <iamalias@shoesgmail.com.> wrote in message

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> dennis@home wrote:

>>

>> "Alias" <iamalias@shoesgmail.com> wrote in message

>> news:fakgve$nlk$3@aioe.org...

>>

>>>

>>> Yet all the herd bots are comprised of Windows boxes without a single

>>> Linux box. How do you explain that?

>>>

>>

>> Are you admitting to actually owning all the bots in the world so that

>> you can actually know what you claim?

>> As you don't you can not know that so your claim is worthless and doesn't

>> require any explanation.

>

> It's a known fact. Research it if you don't believe me. Try using

> http://www.google.com

 

I suppose Kaiten.c doesn't exist then.

If you must argue by google at least try out your google stuff first it

stops you from looking like an idiot.

Re: Alias - The Ubuntu Marketing Department back in full swing

 

Marco Desloovere wrote:

> The poster formerly known as 'The poster formerly known as Nina DiBoy'

> [Thu, 23 Aug 2007 16:32:57 -0500] wrote:

>

>> Marco Desloovere wrote:

>>> The poster formerly known as 'The poster formerly known as Nina DiBoy'

>>> [Thu, 23 Aug 2007 12:02:35 -0500] wrote:

>>>

>>>> Marco Desloovere wrote:

>>>>> The poster formerly known as 'The poster formerly known as Nina DiBoy'

>>>>> [Thu, 23 Aug 2007 10:50:25 -0500] wrote:

>>>>>

>>>>>> Marco Desloovere wrote:

>>>>>>> The poster formerly known as the poster formerly known as Nina DiBoy

>>>>>>> [Wed, 22 Aug 2007 18:08:01 -0500] wrote:

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> Marco Desloovere wrote:

>>>>>>>>> The poster formerly known as 'The poster formerly known as Nina DiBoy'

>>>>>>>>> [Wed, 22 Aug 2007 15:21:37 -0500] wrote:

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>> Marco Desloovere wrote:

>>>>>>>>>>> Bill Yanaire [Wed, 22 Aug 2007 08:38:59 -0700] wrote:

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>> After a two week vacation, Alias has come back to marketing for Ubuntu.

>>>>>>>>>>> Yeah, remember his post (Message-ID:

>>>>>>>>>>> <eeMB2np1HHA.4004@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl>) from August 4th:

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> | Subject: It's been fun, folks ...

>>>>>>>>>>> |

>>>>>>>>>>> | ... but I'm outta here. After meditating on what Stephen Rose said about

>>>>>>>>>>> | spamming, I came to the conclusion that he has a point.

>>>>>>>>>>> |

>>>>>>>>>>> | So, if anyone is interested in Ubuntu, you can email me, visit the

>>>>>>>>>>> | Ubuntu forums or Google.

>>>>>>>>>>> |

>>>>>>>>>>> | As I don't have, nor plan to get, Vista, I am unsubscribing from this ng.

>>>>>>>>>>> |

>>>>>>>>>>> | --

>>>>>>>>>>> | Alias

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> This proves beyond any doubt that this guy is nothing but a troll full

>>>>>>>>>>> of lies.

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> Marco

>>>>>>>>>> Hypocrite!

>>>>>>>>> Yeah, I guess he's still a kid in puberty with the young hormones ("My

>>>>>>>>> OS is bigger and better than your OS ... ha-hah") doing weird things to

>>>>>>>>> his developing mind...

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> Marco

>>>>>>>> I was talking about you, not him.

>>>>>>> How can I possibly be a hypocrite while I'm speaking the truth?

>>>>>>> Don't shoot the messenger!

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Marco

>>>>>> You are being a hypocrite because you are calling alias a troll for

>>>>>> posting ubuntu stuff, yet you do the same yourself in this very group,

>>>>>> just like Dick (Richard) Urban, MVP did. Dick should stop setting such

>>>>>> a bad example for the rest of the kiddies in this group!

>>>>>>

>>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.windows.vista.general/msg/8f9e4b23ebc52750

>>>>> I don't agree.

>>>>>

>>>>> Again you are shooting at the messenger, only because *you* don't like

>>>>> the message.

>>>>> That's silly.

>>>>>

>>>>> Marco

>>>> 'The Message' is off topic and makes you look like a troll. If you are

>>>> the messenger, what higher authority charged you with the divine task of

>>>> making that post here?

>>>>

>>>> Get serious! It makes you look like a Ballmer Butt Boy and an MS shill.

>>> You must be joking!

>>>

>>> Do you really believe that I need your permission to post in this group

>>> here?

>>>

>> No, and I'm not sure where you get that idea either.

>>

>>> If my message is off topic, then how is possible that it generated such

>>> an enormous and totally unexpected response?

>> You just defined the very art of trolling.

>>

>>> Obviously some people felt the need to vent, obviously my message is not

>>> off topic.

>> How is Ubuntu not off topic in a vista newsgroup?

>>

>>> This is the Usenet, if you don't like a thread, simply skip it, but

>>> don't tell me what I can and cannot do.

>>>

>>> Marco

>> I never did tell you 'what you can or cannot do'. Just stating an

>> observation.

>

> You are quite obviously spoiling for a flame war.

> I am not interested.

> End of discussion.

>

> Marco

 

Whatever, No skin off of my back. You and Dick MVP are the hypocrites

who won't even answer a simple question like 'How is Ubuntu not off

topic in a vista newsgroup?'

 

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Re: Alias - The Ubuntu Marketing Department back in full swing

 

The poster formerly known as 'The poster formerly known as Nina DiBoy'

wrote:

> Marco Desloovere wrote:

>> The poster formerly known as 'The poster formerly known as Nina DiBoy'

>> [Thu, 23 Aug 2007 16:32:57 -0500] wrote:

>>

>>> Marco Desloovere wrote:

>>>> The poster formerly known as 'The poster formerly known as Nina DiBoy'

>>>> [Thu, 23 Aug 2007 12:02:35 -0500] wrote:

>>>>

>>>>> Marco Desloovere wrote:

>>>>>> The poster formerly known as 'The poster formerly known as Nina

>>>>>> DiBoy'

>>>>>> [Thu, 23 Aug 2007 10:50:25 -0500] wrote:

>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Marco Desloovere wrote:

>>>>>>>> The poster formerly known as the poster formerly known as Nina

>>>>>>>> DiBoy

>>>>>>>> [Wed, 22 Aug 2007 18:08:01 -0500] wrote:

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> Marco Desloovere wrote:

>>>>>>>>>> The poster formerly known as 'The poster formerly known as

>>>>>>>>>> Nina DiBoy'

>>>>>>>>>> [Wed, 22 Aug 2007 15:21:37 -0500] wrote:

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> Marco Desloovere wrote:

>>>>>>>>>>>> Bill Yanaire [Wed, 22 Aug 2007 08:38:59 -0700] wrote:

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>> After a two week vacation, Alias has come back to marketing

>>>>>>>>>>>>> for Ubuntu.

>>>>>>>>>>>> Yeah, remember his post (Message-ID:

>>>>>>>>>>>> <eeMB2np1HHA.4004@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl>) from August 4th:

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>> | Subject: It's been fun, folks ...

>>>>>>>>>>>> | | ... but I'm outta here. After meditating on what

>>>>>>>>>>>> Stephen Rose said about | spamming, I came to the

>>>>>>>>>>>> conclusion that he has a point.

>>>>>>>>>>>> | | So, if anyone is interested in Ubuntu, you can email

>>>>>>>>>>>> me, visit the | Ubuntu forums or Google.

>>>>>>>>>>>> | | As I don't have, nor plan to get, Vista, I am

>>>>>>>>>>>> unsubscribing from this ng.

>>>>>>>>>>>> | | -- | Alias

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>> This proves beyond any doubt that this guy is nothing but a

>>>>>>>>>>>> troll full

>>>>>>>>>>>> of lies.

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>> Marco

>>>>>>>>>>> Hypocrite!

>>>>>>>>>> Yeah, I guess he's still a kid in puberty with the young

>>>>>>>>>> hormones ("My

>>>>>>>>>> OS is bigger and better than your OS ... ha-hah") doing weird

>>>>>>>>>> things to

>>>>>>>>>> his developing mind...

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>> Marco

>>>>>>>>> I was talking about you, not him.

>>>>>>>> How can I possibly be a hypocrite while I'm speaking the truth?

>>>>>>>> Don't shoot the messenger!

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> Marco

>>>>>>> You are being a hypocrite because you are calling alias a troll

>>>>>>> for posting ubuntu stuff, yet you do the same yourself in this

>>>>>>> very group, just like Dick (Richard) Urban, MVP did. Dick should

>>>>>>> stop setting such a bad example for the rest of the kiddies in

>>>>>>> this group!

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.windows.vista.general/msg/8f9e4b23ebc52750

>>>>>>>

>>>>>> I don't agree.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Again you are shooting at the messenger, only because *you* don't

>>>>>> like

>>>>>> the message.

>>>>>> That's silly.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Marco

>>>>> 'The Message' is off topic and makes you look like a troll. If you

>>>>> are the messenger, what higher authority charged you with the

>>>>> divine task of making that post here?

>>>>>

>>>>> Get serious! It makes you look like a Ballmer Butt Boy and an MS

>>>>> shill.

>>>> You must be joking!

>>>>

>>>> Do you really believe that I need your permission to post in this group

>>>> here?

>>>>

>>> No, and I'm not sure where you get that idea either.

>>>

>>>> If my message is off topic, then how is possible that it generated such

>>>> an enormous and totally unexpected response?

>>> You just defined the very art of trolling.

>>>

>>>> Obviously some people felt the need to vent, obviously my message is

>>>> not

>>>> off topic.

>>> How is Ubuntu not off topic in a vista newsgroup?

>>>

>>>> This is the Usenet, if you don't like a thread, simply skip it, but

>>>> don't tell me what I can and cannot do.

>>>>

>>>> Marco

>>> I never did tell you 'what you can or cannot do'. Just stating an

>>> observation.

>>

>> You are quite obviously spoiling for a flame war.

>> I am not interested.

>> End of discussion.

>>

>> Marco

>

> Whatever, No skin off of my back. You and Dick MVP are the hypocrites

> who won't even answer a simple question like 'How is Ubuntu not off

> topic in a vista newsgroup?'

>

 

Simple, it's a viable alternative to those fed up with Redmond's DRM,

WPA and WGA nonsense :-)

 

--

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Re: Alias - The Ubuntu Marketing Department back in full swing

 

"Alias" <iamalias@shoesgmail.com> wrote in message

news:fan4ku$pbh$1@aioe.org...

> Simple, it's a viable alternative to those fed up with Redmond's DRM, WPA

> and WGA nonsense :-)

 

Linux is a viable alternative for users who know what they are doing.

However having people like you screaming about how secure it is and stuff

that isn't true doesn't help anyone.

 

It looks like either..

 

A: you don't know what you are talking about.

 

or, more probable,

 

B: you do know and are being malicious and are trying to get people to

install software so that you can exploit it.

 

 

Why else would you keep saying its safe even after people have shown you

evidence that it needs some knowledge to make and keep it safe?

Re: Alias - The Ubuntu Marketing Department back in full swing

 

dennis@home wrote:

>

> "Alias" <iamalias@shoesgmail.com> wrote in message

> news:fan4ku$pbh$1@aioe.org...

>

>> Simple, it's a viable alternative to those fed up with Redmond's DRM, WPA

>> and WGA nonsense :-)

>

> Linux is a viable alternative for users who know what they are doing.

> However having people like you screaming about how secure it is and stuff

> that isn't true doesn't help anyone.

>

> It looks like either..

>

> A: you don't know what you are talking about.

>

> or, more probable,

>

> B: you do know and are being malicious and are trying to get people to

> install software so that you can exploit it.

>

>

> Why else would you keep saying its safe even after people have shown you

> evidence that it needs some knowledge to make and keep it safe?

 

Because, out-of-box, it is 1000s safer than Windoze is.

 

Cheers.

 

--

 

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Re: Alias - The Ubuntu Marketing Department back in full swing

 

Alias wrote:

> The poster formerly known as 'The poster formerly known as Nina DiBoy'

> wrote:

>> Marco Desloovere wrote:

>>> The poster formerly known as 'The poster formerly known as Nina DiBoy'

>>> [Thu, 23 Aug 2007 16:32:57 -0500] wrote:

>>>

>>>> Marco Desloovere wrote:

>>>>> The poster formerly known as 'The poster formerly known as Nina DiBoy'

>>>>> [Thu, 23 Aug 2007 12:02:35 -0500] wrote:

>>>>>

>>>>>> Marco Desloovere wrote:

>>>>>>> The poster formerly known as 'The poster formerly known as Nina

>>>>>>> DiBoy'

>>>>>>> [Thu, 23 Aug 2007 10:50:25 -0500] wrote:

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> Marco Desloovere wrote:

>>>>>>>>> The poster formerly known as the poster formerly known as Nina

>>>>>>>>> DiBoy

>>>>>>>>> [Wed, 22 Aug 2007 18:08:01 -0500] wrote:

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>> Marco Desloovere wrote:

>>>>>>>>>>> The poster formerly known as 'The poster formerly known as

>>>>>>>>>>> Nina DiBoy'

>>>>>>>>>>> [Wed, 22 Aug 2007 15:21:37 -0500] wrote:

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>> Marco Desloovere wrote:

>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bill Yanaire [Wed, 22 Aug 2007 08:38:59 -0700] wrote:

>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> After a two week vacation, Alias has come back to

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> marketing for Ubuntu.

>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yeah, remember his post (Message-ID:

>>>>>>>>>>>>> <eeMB2np1HHA.4004@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl>) from August 4th:

>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>> | Subject: It's been fun, folks ...

>>>>>>>>>>>>> | | ... but I'm outta here. After meditating on what

>>>>>>>>>>>>> Stephen Rose said about | spamming, I came to the

>>>>>>>>>>>>> conclusion that he has a point.

>>>>>>>>>>>>> | | So, if anyone is interested in Ubuntu, you can email

>>>>>>>>>>>>> me, visit the | Ubuntu forums or Google.

>>>>>>>>>>>>> | | As I don't have, nor plan to get, Vista, I am

>>>>>>>>>>>>> unsubscribing from this ng.

>>>>>>>>>>>>> | | -- | Alias

>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>> This proves beyond any doubt that this guy is nothing but a

>>>>>>>>>>>>> troll full

>>>>>>>>>>>>> of lies.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>> Marco

>>>>>>>>>>>> Hypocrite!

>>>>>>>>>>> Yeah, I guess he's still a kid in puberty with the young

>>>>>>>>>>> hormones ("My

>>>>>>>>>>> OS is bigger and better than your OS ... ha-hah") doing weird

>>>>>>>>>>> things to

>>>>>>>>>>> his developing mind...

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> Marco

>>>>>>>>>> I was talking about you, not him.

>>>>>>>>> How can I possibly be a hypocrite while I'm speaking the truth?

>>>>>>>>> Don't shoot the messenger!

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> Marco

>>>>>>>> You are being a hypocrite because you are calling alias a troll

>>>>>>>> for posting ubuntu stuff, yet you do the same yourself in this

>>>>>>>> very group, just like Dick (Richard) Urban, MVP did. Dick

>>>>>>>> should stop setting such a bad example for the rest of the

>>>>>>>> kiddies in this group!

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.windows.vista.general/msg/8f9e4b23ebc52750

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> I don't agree.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Again you are shooting at the messenger, only because *you* don't

>>>>>>> like

>>>>>>> the message.

>>>>>>> That's silly.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Marco

>>>>>> 'The Message' is off topic and makes you look like a troll. If

>>>>>> you are the messenger, what higher authority charged you with the

>>>>>> divine task of making that post here?

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Get serious! It makes you look like a Ballmer Butt Boy and an MS

>>>>>> shill.

>>>>> You must be joking!

>>>>>

>>>>> Do you really believe that I need your permission to post in this

>>>>> group

>>>>> here?

>>>>>

>>>> No, and I'm not sure where you get that idea either.

>>>>

>>>>> If my message is off topic, then how is possible that it generated

>>>>> such

>>>>> an enormous and totally unexpected response?

>>>> You just defined the very art of trolling.

>>>>

>>>>> Obviously some people felt the need to vent, obviously my message

>>>>> is not

>>>>> off topic.

>>>> How is Ubuntu not off topic in a vista newsgroup?

>>>>

>>>>> This is the Usenet, if you don't like a thread, simply skip it, but

>>>>> don't tell me what I can and cannot do.

>>>>>

>>>>> Marco

>>>> I never did tell you 'what you can or cannot do'. Just stating an

>>>> observation.

>>>

>>> You are quite obviously spoiling for a flame war.

>>> I am not interested.

>>> End of discussion.

>>>

>>> Marco

>>

>> Whatever, No skin off of my back. You and Dick MVP are the hypocrites

>> who won't even answer a simple question like 'How is Ubuntu not off

>> topic in a vista newsgroup?'

>>

>

> Simple, it's a viable alternative to those fed up with Redmond's DRM,

> WPA and WGA nonsense :-)

>

 

Good answer, and I'd actually accept that answer from these bozos if

their posts about ubuntu were in reply to help another poster (as your

are). Since their ubuntu posts have been the start of a new thread

ripping on it, that makes it completely off topic and they won't even

stand up like men and admit it!

 

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Re: Alias - The Ubuntu Marketing Department back in full swing

 

"NoStop" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message

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> dennis@home wrote:

>

>>

>> "Alias" <iamalias@shoesgmail.com> wrote in message

>> news:fan4ku$pbh$1@aioe.org...

>>

>>> Simple, it's a viable alternative to those fed up with Redmond's DRM,

>>> WPA

>>> and WGA nonsense :-)

>>

>> Linux is a viable alternative for users who know what they are doing.

>> However having people like you screaming about how secure it is and stuff

>> that isn't true doesn't help anyone.

>>

>> It looks like either..

>>

>> A: you don't know what you are talking about.

>>

>> or, more probable,

>>

>> B: you do know and are being malicious and are trying to get people to

>> install software so that you can exploit it.

>>

>>

>> Why else would you keep saying its safe even after people have shown you

>> evidence that it needs some knowledge to make and keep it safe?

>

> Because, out-of-box, it is 1000s safer than Windoze is.

 

That does not equal safe, not in any reasonable persons mind.

Re: Alias - The Ubuntu Marketing Department back in full swing

 

dennis@home wrote:

>

> "NoStop" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message

> news:h7Fzi.89730$fJ5.18832@pd7urf1no...

>> dennis@home wrote:

>>

>>>

>>> "Alias" <iamalias@shoesgmail.com> wrote in message

>>> news:fan4ku$pbh$1@aioe.org...

>>>

>>>> Simple, it's a viable alternative to those fed up with Redmond's DRM,

>>>> WPA

>>>> and WGA nonsense :-)

>>>

>>> Linux is a viable alternative for users who know what they are doing.

>>> However having people like you screaming about how secure it is and

>>> stuff that isn't true doesn't help anyone.

>>>

>>> It looks like either..

>>>

>>> A: you don't know what you are talking about.

>>>

>>> or, more probable,

>>>

>>> B: you do know and are being malicious and are trying to get people to

>>> install software so that you can exploit it.

>>>

>>>

>>> Why else would you keep saying its safe even after people have shown you

>>> evidence that it needs some knowledge to make and keep it safe?

>>

>> Because, out-of-box, it is 1000s safer than Windoze is.

>

> That does not equal safe, not in any reasonable persons mind.

 

Well, I have yet to meet a Linux user that has complained that his/her

system has been infected with viruses, trojans or spyway. That has NEVER

been an issue. So, I guess, for those of us that know better, we are

reasonably content that having left Windoze, we can concentrate on using

our computers for productive work rather than baby sit it constantly

against outside attacks. If you chose to continue to worry about, well go

ahead. It's the Windoze mindset to start with.

 

Cheers.

 

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Re: Alias - The Ubuntu Marketing Department back in full swing

 

"NoStop" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message

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> Well, I have yet to meet a Linux user that has complained that his/her

> system has been infected with viruses, trojans or spyway.

 

That is not a surprise..

 

There are not many Linux users that would know if they had been infected.

Its not likely that an infection is going to flash the screen and say "Hi".

 

> That has NEVER

> been an issue. So, I guess, for those of us that know better, we are

> reasonably content that having left Windoze, we can concentrate on using

> our computers for productive work rather than baby sit it constantly

> against outside attacks. If you chose to continue to worry about, well go

> ahead. It's the Windoze mindset to start with.

 

You may carry on as you desire.. please tell the truth when trying to

persuade others to try Linux.. the truth is better in the long run.

Re: Alias - The Ubuntu Marketing Department back in full swing

 

dennis@home wrote:

>

> "NoStop" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message

> news:v%Fzi.89778$fJ5.27633@pd7urf1no...

>

>> Well, I have yet to meet a Linux user that has complained that his/her

>> system has been infected with viruses, trojans or spyway.

>

> That is not a surprise..

>

Certainly seems to be a surprise to you, as you've obviously clueless.

 

I run a WRT54G router that runs a hacked Linux firmware package. This allows

it to continuely feed its log files to a dedicated computer that shows me

who's knocking on my door. There are constant attempts to open up ports 445

and 135 thanks to all the compromised Windoze boxes out there. Of course,

the router stops these attacks, but it sure does show how bad things are

out there on the Net - THANKS TO WINDOZE.

 

Learn more about Port 445 - Microsoft's big mistake and what you Wintards

need to do about it ...

 

http://www.grc.com/port_445.htm

 

Cheers.

 

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Re: Alias - The Ubuntu Marketing Department back in full swing

 

Marco Desloovere <marco_desloovere@yahoo.com> wrote in

news:i9mrc3ho3bpf20i4jc8c9upb3lthue063s@4ax.com:

> If my message is off topic, then how is possible that it generated

> such an enormous and totally unexpected response?

 

Because you were trolling.

> Obviously some people felt the need to vent, obviously my message is

> not off topic.

 

So......if it's trying to put down *nix it's not off-topic and not

trolling ?

 

But if it's a pro-*nix post, it is off-topic, and trollng ?

 

That certainly is a MS fanboi attitude if you ask me. (Not saying you are

one.....just that opinion.)

> This is the Usenet, if you don't like a thread, simply skip it, but

> don't tell me what I can and cannot do.

 

I agree. Let whomever post whatever they want, and let the reader decide

what to read. And the regs here that cry and whine about OT posts should

do the same. Besides, it's only them that care anyway, I've never seen a

non-regular (someone just looking for help) piss and moan like they do.

 

It wouldn't be bad at all if they were intelligent

disagreements/discussions, but you rarely see that when certain unamed

people are involved.

"Marco Desloovere" <marco_desloovere@yahoo.com> wrote in message

news:jngqc39k9qfshdpb1ajr6i1b4nn5qr5sl6@4ax.com...

> But these updates are provided by NVIDIA, *not* by Microsoft.

>

> Marco

 

Dumb- that's what I call it. So give us the link to that last update for

nVidia from MS - the Network thingy.

I have not seen a driver update for any nvidia products in MS for over a

year - may be longer? Not that I would use it - did once and never again.

 

Antioch

Re: Alias - The Ubuntu Marketing Department back in full swing

 

"NoStop" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message

news:FDGzi.89821$fJ5.55211@pd7urf1no...

> dennis@home wrote:

>

>>

>> "NoStop" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message

>> news:v%Fzi.89778$fJ5.27633@pd7urf1no...

>>

>>> Well, I have yet to meet a Linux user that has complained that his/her

>>> system has been infected with viruses, trojans or spyway.

>>

>> That is not a surprise..

>>

> Certainly seems to be a surprise to you, as you've obviously clueless.

 

I usually find that its the clueless that resort to calling people

clueless.. those of us that have some knowledge are usually quite happy to

help educate others.. you appear to lack anything to educate even the most

basic user with even though you claim to know much.

>

> I run a WRT54G router that runs a hacked Linux firmware package. This

> allows

> it to continuely feed its log files to a dedicated computer that shows me

> who's knocking on my door. There are constant attempts to open up ports

> 445

> and 135 thanks to all the compromised Windoze boxes out there. Of course,

> the router stops these attacks, but it sure does show how bad things are

> out there on the Net - THANKS TO WINDOZE.

>

> Learn more about Port 445 - Microsoft's big mistake and what you Wintards

> need to do about it ...

 

You need to learn about computers by the way you talk...

 

First.. grc is not a good site.. he doesn't have a clue which you would know

if you had a clue.

 

Second.. the probes on port 445 aren't all windows boxes and aren't all

exploits in the first place.

 

Do you actually have anything interesting to say or is it all kiddy level

stuff?

Re: Alias - The Ubuntu Marketing Department back in full swing

 

dennis@home wrote:

>

> "NoStop" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message

> news:FDGzi.89821$fJ5.55211@pd7urf1no...

>> dennis@home wrote:

>>

>>>

>>> "NoStop" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message

>>> news:v%Fzi.89778$fJ5.27633@pd7urf1no...

>>>

>>>> Well, I have yet to meet a Linux user that has complained that his/her

>>>> system has been infected with viruses, trojans or spyway.

>>>

>>> That is not a surprise..

>>>

>> Certainly seems to be a surprise to you, as you've obviously clueless.

>

> I usually find that its the clueless that resort to calling people

> clueless.. those of us that have some knowledge are usually quite happy to

> help educate others.. you appear to lack anything to educate even the most

> basic user with even though you claim to know much.

>

>>

>> I run a WRT54G router that runs a hacked Linux firmware package. This

>> allows

>> it to continuely feed its log files to a dedicated computer that shows me

>> who's knocking on my door. There are constant attempts to open up ports

>> 445

>> and 135 thanks to all the compromised Windoze boxes out there. Of course,

>> the router stops these attacks, but it sure does show how bad things are

>> out there on the Net - THANKS TO WINDOZE.

>>

>> Learn more about Port 445 - Microsoft's big mistake and what you Wintards

>> need to do about it ...

>

> You need to learn about computers by the way you talk...

>

I think I know something about computers. I've been using them since '79.

> First.. grc is not a good site.. he doesn't have a clue which you would

> know if you had a clue.

>

> Second.. the probes on port 445 aren't all windows boxes and aren't all

> exploits in the first place.

>

Of course they're exploits when open to the Net. No one running Samba would

intentionally open those ports to the Net, doofus.

 

> Do you actually have anything interesting to say or is it all kiddy level

> stuff?

 

Obviously, what I have to say is way above your level of understanding. But,

that figures, since you're the Wintard.

 

Cheers.

 

 

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Re: Alias - The Ubuntu Marketing Department back in full swing

 

The poster formerly known as 'The poster formerly known as Nina DiBoy'

wrote:

> Alias wrote:

>> The poster formerly known as 'The poster formerly known as Nina DiBoy'

>> wrote:

>>> Marco Desloovere wrote:

>>>> The poster formerly known as 'The poster formerly known as Nina DiBoy'

>>>> [Thu, 23 Aug 2007 16:32:57 -0500] wrote:

>>>>

>>>>> Marco Desloovere wrote:

>>>>>> The poster formerly known as 'The poster formerly known as Nina

>>>>>> DiBoy'

>>>>>> [Thu, 23 Aug 2007 12:02:35 -0500] wrote:

>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Marco Desloovere wrote:

>>>>>>>> The poster formerly known as 'The poster formerly known as Nina

>>>>>>>> DiBoy'

>>>>>>>> [Thu, 23 Aug 2007 10:50:25 -0500] wrote:

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> Marco Desloovere wrote:

>>>>>>>>>> The poster formerly known as the poster formerly known as Nina

>>>>>>>>>> DiBoy

>>>>>>>>>> [Wed, 22 Aug 2007 18:08:01 -0500] wrote:

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> Marco Desloovere wrote:

>>>>>>>>>>>> The poster formerly known as 'The poster formerly known as

>>>>>>>>>>>> Nina DiBoy'

>>>>>>>>>>>> [Wed, 22 Aug 2007 15:21:37 -0500] wrote:

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>> Marco Desloovere wrote:

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bill Yanaire [Wed, 22 Aug 2007 08:38:59 -0700] wrote:

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> After a two week vacation, Alias has come back to

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> marketing for Ubuntu.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yeah, remember his post (Message-ID:

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <eeMB2np1HHA.4004@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl>) from August 4th:

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> | Subject: It's been fun, folks ...

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> | | ... but I'm outta here. After meditating on what

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Stephen Rose said about | spamming, I came to the

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> conclusion that he has a point.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> | | So, if anyone is interested in Ubuntu, you can email

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> me, visit the | Ubuntu forums or Google.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> | | As I don't have, nor plan to get, Vista, I am

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> unsubscribing from this ng.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> | | -- | Alias

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This proves beyond any doubt that this guy is nothing but

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a troll full

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of lies.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Marco

>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hypocrite!

>>>>>>>>>>>> Yeah, I guess he's still a kid in puberty with the young

>>>>>>>>>>>> hormones ("My

>>>>>>>>>>>> OS is bigger and better than your OS ... ha-hah") doing

>>>>>>>>>>>> weird things to

>>>>>>>>>>>> his developing mind...

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>> Marco

>>>>>>>>>>> I was talking about you, not him.

>>>>>>>>>> How can I possibly be a hypocrite while I'm speaking the truth?

>>>>>>>>>> Don't shoot the messenger!

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>> Marco

>>>>>>>>> You are being a hypocrite because you are calling alias a troll

>>>>>>>>> for posting ubuntu stuff, yet you do the same yourself in this

>>>>>>>>> very group, just like Dick (Richard) Urban, MVP did. Dick

>>>>>>>>> should stop setting such a bad example for the rest of the

>>>>>>>>> kiddies in this group!

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.windows.vista.general/msg/8f9e4b23ebc52750

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> I don't agree.

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> Again you are shooting at the messenger, only because *you*

>>>>>>>> don't like

>>>>>>>> the message.

>>>>>>>> That's silly.

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> Marco

>>>>>>> 'The Message' is off topic and makes you look like a troll. If

>>>>>>> you are the messenger, what higher authority charged you with the

>>>>>>> divine task of making that post here?

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Get serious! It makes you look like a Ballmer Butt Boy and an MS

>>>>>>> shill.

>>>>>> You must be joking!

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Do you really believe that I need your permission to post in this

>>>>>> group

>>>>>> here?

>>>>>>

>>>>> No, and I'm not sure where you get that idea either.

>>>>>

>>>>>> If my message is off topic, then how is possible that it generated

>>>>>> such

>>>>>> an enormous and totally unexpected response?

>>>>> You just defined the very art of trolling.

>>>>>

>>>>>> Obviously some people felt the need to vent, obviously my message

>>>>>> is not

>>>>>> off topic.

>>>>> How is Ubuntu not off topic in a vista newsgroup?

>>>>>

>>>>>> This is the Usenet, if you don't like a thread, simply skip it, but

>>>>>> don't tell me what I can and cannot do.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Marco

>>>>> I never did tell you 'what you can or cannot do'. Just stating an

>>>>> observation.

>>>>

>>>> You are quite obviously spoiling for a flame war.

>>>> I am not interested.

>>>> End of discussion.

>>>>

>>>> Marco

>>>

>>> Whatever, No skin off of my back. You and Dick MVP are the

>>> hypocrites who won't even answer a simple question like 'How is

>>> Ubuntu not off topic in a vista newsgroup?'

>>>

>>

>> Simple, it's a viable alternative to those fed up with Redmond's DRM,

>> WPA and WGA nonsense :-)

>>

>

> Good answer, and I'd actually accept that answer from these bozos if

> their posts about ubuntu were in reply to help another poster (as your

> are). Since their ubuntu posts have been the start of a new thread

> ripping on it, that makes it completely off topic and they won't even

> stand up like men and admit it!

>

 

Cornered rats usually don't.

 

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Re: Alias - The Ubuntu Marketing Department back in full swing

 

Alias Ubuntu obsessed *79*. Could I be Au79 I wonder ??? wrote:

 

<snipped>

> Cornered rats like me usually troll more than one NG, spreading my

> soapbox gospel. You know a Linux tooting rat like me can't change my spots.

> Further observation of me will be needed, to make a determination.

Re: Alias - The Ubuntu Marketing Department back in full swing

 

NoStop wrote:

> dennis@home wrote:

>

>

>>"NoStop" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message

>>news:h7Fzi.89730$fJ5.18832@pd7urf1no...

>>

>>>dennis@home wrote:

>>>

>>>

>>>>"Alias" <iamalias@shoesgmail.com> wrote in message

>>>>news:fan4ku$pbh$1@aioe.org...

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>>Simple, it's a viable alternative to those fed up with Redmond's DRM,

>>>>>WPA

>>>>>and WGA nonsense :-)

>>>>

>>>>Linux is a viable alternative for users who know what they are doing.

>>>>However having people like you screaming about how secure it is and

>>>>stuff that isn't true doesn't help anyone.

>>>>

>>>>It looks like either..

>>>>

>>>>A: you don't know what you are talking about.

>>>>

>>>>or, more probable,

>>>>

>>>>B: you do know and are being malicious and are trying to get people to

>>>>install software so that you can exploit it.

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>Why else would you keep saying its safe even after people have shown you

>>>>evidence that it needs some knowledge to make and keep it safe?

>>>

>>>Because, out-of-box, it is 1000s safer than Windoze is.

>>

>>That does not equal safe, not in any reasonable persons mind.

>

>

> Well, I have yet to meet a Linux user that has complained that his/her

> system has been infected with viruses, trojans or spyway. That has NEVER

> been an issue. So, I guess, for those of us that know better, we are

> reasonably content that having left Windoze, we can concentrate on using

> our computers for productive work rather than baby sit it constantly

> against outside attacks. If you chose to continue to worry about, well go

> ahead. It's the Windoze mindset to start with.

>

> Cheers.

>

 

Let me introduce you to someone who has never, ever been infected by

anything running Windows from their very first RTM of WinX...meet

me...Frank. And I'm sure I'm not alone seeing as how all the people in

all the businesses I deal with have never been infected running windows.

As for being productive in a business atmosphere, Windows is the major

choice then Apple and then well...who knows as I don't know any other

OS's used by all the businesses I deal with. Not one linux business user

do I know of.

So run your mouth all you want about how secure linux is, I for one find

Windows just as secure as any install of any linux distro.

So what you say is in reality, not true...which makes you another lying

linux loser.

Which also begs the question...why are you here...other than to spread

more lies about MS and linux?

Frank

Re: Alias - The Ubuntu Marketing Department back in full swing

 

"Frank" <fb@nospaner.cnm> wrote in message

>> Well, I have yet to meet a Linux user that has complained that his/her

>> system has been infected with viruses, trojans or spyway. That has NEVER

>> been an issue. So, I guess, for those of us that know better, we are

>> reasonably content that having left Windoze, we can concentrate on using

>> our computers for productive work rather than baby sit it constantly

>> against outside attacks. If you chose to continue to worry about, well go

>> ahead. It's the Windoze mindset to start with.

>>

>> Cheers.

>>

>

> Let me introduce you to someone who has never, ever been infected by

> anything running Windows from their very first RTM of WinX...meet

> me...Frank. And I'm sure I'm not alone seeing as how all the people in all

> the businesses I deal with have never been infected running windows.

> As for being productive in a business atmosphere, Windows is the major

> choice then Apple and then well...who knows as I don't know any other OS's

> used by all the businesses I deal with. Not one linux business user do I

> know of.

> So run your mouth all you want about how secure linux is, I for one find

> Windows just as secure as any install of any linux distro.

> So what you say is in reality, not true...which makes you another lying

> linux loser.

> Which also begs the question...why are you here...other than to spread

> more lies about MS and linux?

 

Alias is here because, although the Linux groups are filled with

like-minded rabid 'tards, they keep laughing at him.

 

Here, in a smaller Linux pond, he can be a bigger fish.

Re: Alias - The Ubuntu Marketing Department back in full swing

 

On 8/24/2007 5:57 PM On a whim, Frank pounded out on the keyboard

> NoStop wrote:

>

>> dennis@home wrote:

>>

>>

>>> "NoStop" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message

>>> news:h7Fzi.89730$fJ5.18832@pd7urf1no...

>>>

>>>> dennis@home wrote:

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>> "Alias" <iamalias@shoesgmail.com> wrote in message

>>>>> news:fan4ku$pbh$1@aioe.org...

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>> Simple, it's a viable alternative to those fed up with Redmond's DRM,

>>>>>> WPA

>>>>>> and WGA nonsense :-)

>>>>> Linux is a viable alternative for users who know what they are doing.

>>>>> However having people like you screaming about how secure it is and

>>>>> stuff that isn't true doesn't help anyone.

>>>>>

>>>>> It looks like either..

>>>>>

>>>>> A: you don't know what you are talking about.

>>>>>

>>>>> or, more probable,

>>>>>

>>>>> B: you do know and are being malicious and are trying to get people to

>>>>> install software so that you can exploit it.

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>> Why else would you keep saying its safe even after people have shown you

>>>>> evidence that it needs some knowledge to make and keep it safe?

>>>> Because, out-of-box, it is 1000s safer than Windoze is.

>>> That does not equal safe, not in any reasonable persons mind.

>>

>> Well, I have yet to meet a Linux user that has complained that his/her

>> system has been infected with viruses, trojans or spyway. That has NEVER

>> been an issue. So, I guess, for those of us that know better, we are

>> reasonably content that having left Windoze, we can concentrate on using

>> our computers for productive work rather than baby sit it constantly

>> against outside attacks. If you chose to continue to worry about, well go

>> ahead. It's the Windoze mindset to start with.

>>

>> Cheers.

>>

>

> Let me introduce you to someone who has never, ever been infected by

> anything running Windows from their very first RTM of WinX...meet

> me...Frank. And I'm sure I'm not alone seeing as how all the people in

> all the businesses I deal with have never been infected running windows.

> As for being productive in a business atmosphere, Windows is the major

> choice then Apple and then well...who knows as I don't know any other

> OS's used by all the businesses I deal with. Not one linux business user

> do I know of.

> So run your mouth all you want about how secure linux is, I for one find

> Windows just as secure as any install of any linux distro.

> So what you say is in reality, not true...which makes you another lying

> linux loser.

> Which also begs the question...why are you here...other than to spread

> more lies about MS and linux?

> Frank

>

>

>

>

 

You have NEVER had a virus or malware? And "all the businesses I deal

with have never been infected running windows". How do you know Frank?

Do you ask each and every user? Do you, a claimed business owner,

discuss viruses with other business owners? If you've NEVER had a virus

or malware, then all I can say is that you must be one lucky person, but

I don't believe your statement above and I doubt anyone else will

either. You can say you don't care what I believe (and I'm sure you

will) but it won't change anything.

 

I don't know ONE company or user who hasn't been infected either by a

virus or malware using Windows at one time or another. Even the

simplest of computer users within networks we admin, have wound up

getting a virus or malware, even with AV software. Heck, I've even

found them on my machine and I think I'm the most careful user I know

(it was years ago but the fact remains). It's one thing to try and bad

mouth Linux, but I don't think anyone here will give much validity to

you making statements like that.

 

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Re: Alias - The Ubuntu Marketing Department back in full swing

 

On 8/24/2007 4:10 PM On a whim, dennis@home pounded out on the keyboard

> "NoStop" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message

> news:FDGzi.89821$fJ5.55211@pd7urf1no...

>> dennis@home wrote:

>>

>>> "NoStop" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message

>>> news:v%Fzi.89778$fJ5.27633@pd7urf1no...

>>>

>>>> Well, I have yet to meet a Linux user that has complained that his/her

>>>> system has been infected with viruses, trojans or spyway.

>>> That is not a surprise..

>>>

>> Certainly seems to be a surprise to you, as you've obviously clueless.

>

> I usually find that its the clueless that resort to calling people

> clueless.. those of us that have some knowledge are usually quite happy to

> help educate others.. you appear to lack anything to educate even the most

> basic user with even though you claim to know much.

>

>> I run a WRT54G router that runs a hacked Linux firmware package. This

>> allows

>> it to continuely feed its log files to a dedicated computer that shows me

>> who's knocking on my door. There are constant attempts to open up ports

>> 445

>> and 135 thanks to all the compromised Windoze boxes out there. Of course,

>> the router stops these attacks, but it sure does show how bad things are

>> out there on the Net - THANKS TO WINDOZE.

>>

>> Learn more about Port 445 - Microsoft's big mistake and what you Wintards

>> need to do about it ...

>

> You need to learn about computers by the way you talk...

>

> First.. grc is not a good site.. he doesn't have a clue which you would know

> if you had a clue.

>

> Second.. the probes on port 445 aren't all windows boxes and aren't all

> exploits in the first place.

>

> Do you actually have anything interesting to say or is it all kiddy level

> stuff?

>

>

 

Care to enlighten everyone why the Gibson Research site "is not a good

site" and "he doesn't have a clue"?

 

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On Fri, 24 Aug 2007 19:17:02 -0700, "Terry R." <F1ComNOSPAM@pobox.com>

wrote:

>You have NEVER had a virus or malware? And "all the businesses I deal

>with have never been infected running windows". How do you know Frank?

 

Frank seems more delusional than usual this evening. In over 30 years

of following Usenet I'm come across all kinds of kooks, but Frank is

by far one of the most screwed up, constantly lying full time fools

I've ever seen post to any newsgroup. Maybe he's proud of that

accomplishment. -)

Re: Alias - The Ubuntu Marketing Department back in full swing

 

Terry R. wrote:

>

> You have NEVER had a virus or malware?

 

No. And in small businesses I think that's fairly normal. I've heard

that a lot times in large businesses malcontent employees will

intentionally infect or bring down the company system.

 

And "all the businesses I deal

> with have never been infected running windows". How do you know Frank?

Do you ask each and every user? Do you, a claimed business owner,

> discuss viruses with other business owners?

 

Yes, I talk with the owners quite frequently. We discuss a variety of

technical issues.

 

If you've NEVER had a virus

> or malware, then all I can say is that you must be one lucky person,

 

Oh, I don't think "luck" has anything at all to do with it!

 

but

> I don't believe your statement above and I doubt anyone else will

> either.

 

Why is that? You think every window os in the entire world has to have

been infected at one time or another?

Is that correct?

 

You can say you don't care what I believe (and I'm sure you

> will) but it won't change anything.

 

I'm not the one trying to change someone statement. You are. Not me.

Frank

Re: Alias - The Ubuntu Marketing Department back in full swing

 

Adam Hopalong aka Jerry Lewis ah he likes the boys wrote:

 

<snipped>

 

>

> I seem more delusional than usual this evening. In over 30 years

> of being an old *clown*, you'll never find a kook like me, and I am

> by far one of the most screwed up, constantly lying and a full time fool

> that's has ever posted to any newsgroup. I am proud of that

> accomplishment, because I just love the *boys*, I was never potty trained

> and I have dumped in all NG(s) over 30 years, just screwed up I guess.

> I am a nasty old dirty man, I am necked and sitting at my desk. :(