Would you really trust a product riddled with so many security

vulnerabilities?

How many Ubuntu vulnerabilities have not yet been discovered?

 

Beware, not for the faint of heart, this list is huge:

http://www.ubuntu.com/usn

 

Marco

Marco Desloovere wrote:

> Would you really trust a product riddled with so many security

> vulnerabilities?

> How many Ubuntu vulnerabilities have not yet been discovered?

>

> Beware, not for the faint of heart, this list is huge:

> http://www.ubuntu.com/usn

>

> Marco

 

I would trust the product, and the list IS huge. However, if you take

the time to look at the details, you would find that from the top

(latest vulnerability listed - reported 8/21/07) to the bottom (earliest

vulnerability listed - reported 10/22/04) of the list, all the

vulnerabilities have fixes available and are easily remediated. I quote

for the latest listed: "The problem can be corrected by upgrading your

system to the following package versions: (listing of packages). In

general, a standard system upgrade is sufficient to effect the necessary

changes."

The earliest has the same statement.

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norm wrote:

> Marco Desloovere wrote:

>> Would you really trust a product riddled with so many security

>> vulnerabilities?

>> How many Ubuntu vulnerabilities have not yet been discovered?

>>

>> Beware, not for the faint of heart, this list is huge:

>> http://www.ubuntu.com/usn

>>

>> Marco

>

> I would trust the product, and the list IS huge. However, if you take

> the time to look at the details, you would find that from the top

> (latest vulnerability listed - reported 8/21/07) to the bottom (earliest

> vulnerability listed - reported 10/22/04) of the list, all the

> vulnerabilities have fixes available and are easily remediated. I quote

> for the latest listed: "The problem can be corrected by upgrading your

> system to the following package versions: (listing of packages). In

> general, a standard system upgrade is sufficient to effect the necessary

> changes."

> The earliest has the same statement.

 

I get a little icon on the upper panel telling me there are updates.

Don't have to check every single program I have installed to know if

there is one or not which is one of many reasons that Ubuntu is more

user friendly than Windows.

 

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Yes, all complex programs including OS' have bugs that can possibly be

exploited. Was this news to you or are you trolling?

 

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"Marco Desloovere" <marco_desloovere@yahoo.com> wrote in message

news:r1qmc3ppq63n1utng0abil663dirv4vi4u@4ax.com...

> Would you really trust a product riddled with so many security

> vulnerabilities?

> How many Ubuntu vulnerabilities have not yet been discovered?

>

> Beware, not for the faint of heart, this list is huge:

> http://www.ubuntu.com/usn

>

> Marco

Define trolling

 

"Kerry Brown" <kerry@kdbNOSPAMsys-tems.c*a*m> wrote in message

news:72C92115-1907-4676-A9C5-C356D64C315C@microsoft.com...

> Yes, all complex programs including OS' have bugs that can possibly be

> exploited. Was this news to you or are you trolling?

>

> --

> Kerry Brown

> Microsoft MVP - Shell/User

> http://www.vistahelp.ca

>

>

> "Marco Desloovere" <marco_desloovere@yahoo.com> wrote in message

> news:r1qmc3ppq63n1utng0abil663dirv4vi4u@4ax.com...

>> Would you really trust a product riddled with so many security

>> vulnerabilities?

>> How many Ubuntu vulnerabilities have not yet been discovered?

>>

>> Beware, not for the faint of heart, this list is huge:

>> http://www.ubuntu.com/usn

>>

>> Marco

>

In article <r1qmc3ppq63n1utng0abil663dirv4vi4u@4ax.com>,

marco_desloovere@yahoo.com says...

> Would you really trust a product riddled with so many security

> vulnerabilities?

> How many Ubuntu vulnerabilities have not yet been discovered?

>

> Beware, not for the faint of heart, this list is huge:

> http://www.ubuntu.com/usn

 

Alias and Adam are going to hate you - showing more than 500 exploits in

Ubuntu....

 

Latest one: Description "It was discovered that Jasper did not correctly

handle corrupted JPEG2000 images. By tricking a user into opening a

specially crafted JPG, a remote attacker could cause the application

using libjasper to crash, resulting in a denial of service."

 

 

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In article <faft25$hbt$1@aioe.org>, iamalias@shoesgmail.com says...

> I get a little icon on the upper panel telling me there are updates.

> Don't have to check every single program I have installed to know if

> there is one or not which is one of many reasons that Ubuntu is more

> user friendly than Windows.

 

All of the programs provided by MS get updates without me having to do

anything... Windows XP, Office 2003/2007... Server 2003....

 

My systems update as reliably as the last one I had running Ubuntu...

 

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- Calling an illegal alien an "undocumented worker" is like calling a

drug dealer an "unlicensed pharmacist"

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Leythos wrote:

> In article <r1qmc3ppq63n1utng0abil663dirv4vi4u@4ax.com>,

> marco_desloovere@yahoo.com says...

>> Would you really trust a product riddled with so many security

>> vulnerabilities?

>> How many Ubuntu vulnerabilities have not yet been discovered?

>>

>> Beware, not for the faint of heart, this list is huge:

>> http://www.ubuntu.com/usn

>

> Alias and Adam are going to hate you - showing more than 500 exploits in

> Ubuntu....

>

> Latest one: Description "It was discovered that Jasper did not correctly

> handle corrupted JPEG2000 images. By tricking a user into opening a

> specially crafted JPG, a remote attacker could cause the application

> using libjasper to crash, resulting in a denial of service."

>

>

And did you read the details on the exploit? The submission on the

exploit is 8/20/07. The resolution is as follows: The problem can be

corrected by upgrading your system to the following package versions:

(packages listed). In general, a standard system upgrade is sufficient

to effect the necessary changes.

There is nothing for anyone to hate. The exploits listed date back to

10/22/04 to the present. That's a fact. It is also a fact that they all

have been taken care of.

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"NonTarget" <DontShoot@me.plz> wrote in message

news:OikxxjF5HHA.5212@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

> Define trolling

>

> "Kerry Brown" <kerry@kdbNOSPAMsys-tems.c*a*m> wrote in message

> news:72C92115-1907-4676-A9C5-C356D64C315C@microsoft.com...

>> Yes, all complex programs including OS' have bugs that can possibly be

>> exploited. Was this news to you or are you trolling?

>>

>> --

>> Kerry Brown

>> Microsoft MVP - Shell/User

>> http://www.vistahelp.ca

>>

>>

>> "Marco Desloovere" <marco_desloovere@yahoo.com> wrote in message

>> news:r1qmc3ppq63n1utng0abil663dirv4vi4u@4ax.com...

>>> Would you really trust a product riddled with so many security

>>> vulnerabilities?

>>> How many Ubuntu vulnerabilities have not yet been discovered?

>>>

>>> Beware, not for the faint of heart, this list is huge:

>>> http://www.ubuntu.com/usn

>>>

>>> Marco

>>

>

From that link

The term troll should be used with attention since it is a very easy way of

undermining an opposing point of view. Sometimes, overly using the word

"troll" may constitute trolling in itself.

 

"Kerry Brown" <kerry@kdbNOSPAMsys-tems.c*a*m> wrote in message

news:e8IHN1F5HHA.4676@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_troll

>

> --

> Kerry Brown

> Microsoft MVP - Shell/User

> http://www.vistahelp.ca

>

>

> "NonTarget" <DontShoot@me.plz> wrote in message

> news:OikxxjF5HHA.5212@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>> Define trolling

>>

>> "Kerry Brown" <kerry@kdbNOSPAMsys-tems.c*a*m> wrote in message

>> news:72C92115-1907-4676-A9C5-C356D64C315C@microsoft.com...

>>> Yes, all complex programs including OS' have bugs that can possibly be

>>> exploited. Was this news to you or are you trolling?

>>>

>>> --

>>> Kerry Brown

>>> Microsoft MVP - Shell/User

>>> http://www.vistahelp.ca

>>>

>>>

>>> "Marco Desloovere" <marco_desloovere@yahoo.com> wrote in message

>>> news:r1qmc3ppq63n1utng0abil663dirv4vi4u@4ax.com...

>>>> Would you really trust a product riddled with so many security

>>>> vulnerabilities?

>>>> How many Ubuntu vulnerabilities have not yet been discovered?

>>>>

>>>> Beware, not for the faint of heart, this list is huge:

>>>> http://www.ubuntu.com/usn

>>>>

>>>> Marco

>>>

>>

>

Marco Desloovere wrote:

> Would you really trust a product riddled with so many security

> vulnerabilities?

> How many Ubuntu vulnerabilities have not yet been discovered?

>

> Beware, not for the faint of heart, this list is huge:

> http://www.ubuntu.com/usn

>

> Marco

 

 

Uhhh...hold on one second...I see no need whatsoever to install any of

those "security updates'...seeing as how we've all been brainwashed into

believing that ubuntu is 100% bullet proof secure and needs no security

at all...it's safe that way out of the box, right?

Or did we get lied to?

Frank

On Tue, 21 Aug 2007 19:55:18 -0700, Frank <fb@nospaner.cnm> wrote:

>Marco Desloovere wrote:

>> Would you really trust a product riddled with so many security

>> vulnerabilities?

>> How many Ubuntu vulnerabilities have not yet been discovered?

>>

>> Beware, not for the faint of heart, this list is huge:

>> http://www.ubuntu.com/usn

>>

>> Marco

>

>

>Uhhh...hold on one second...I see no need whatsoever to install any of

>those "security updates'...seeing as how we've all been brainwashed into

>believing that ubuntu is 100% bullet proof secure and needs no security

>at all...it's safe that way out of the box, right?

>Or did we get lied to?

 

I thought that was Microsoft's hype about Vista.

norm wrote:

> Leythos wrote:

>> In article <r1qmc3ppq63n1utng0abil663dirv4vi4u@4ax.com>,

>> marco_desloovere@yahoo.com says...

>>> Would you really trust a product riddled with so many security

>>> vulnerabilities?

>>> How many Ubuntu vulnerabilities have not yet been discovered?

>>>

>>> Beware, not for the faint of heart, this list is huge:

>>> http://www.ubuntu.com/usn

>>

>> Alias and Adam are going to hate you - showing more than 500 exploits in

>> Ubuntu....

>>

>> Latest one: Description "It was discovered that Jasper did not correctly

>> handle corrupted JPEG2000 images. By tricking a user into opening a

>> specially crafted JPG, a remote attacker could cause the application

>> using libjasper to crash, resulting in a denial of service."

>>

>>

> And did you read the details on the exploit? The submission on the

> exploit is 8/20/07. The resolution is as follows: The problem can be

> corrected by upgrading your system to the following package versions:

> (packages listed). In general, a standard system upgrade is sufficient

> to effect the necessary changes.

> There is nothing for anyone to hate. The exploits listed date back to

> 10/22/04 to the present. That's a fact. It is also a fact that they all

> have been taken care of.

 

Please don't try and confuse reality with facts. In Leythos' small warped

mind, nothing beats his beloved XP. That should say enough right there.

 

Cheers.

 

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The "Wow" starts now. http://tinyurl.com/269m7q

 

"Vista is finally secure from hacking. No one is going to 'hack' the product

activation and try and steal the o/s. Anyone smart enough to do so ... is

also smart enough not to want to bother." philo

Adam Albright wrote:

> On Tue, 21 Aug 2007 19:55:18 -0700, Frank <fb@nospaner.cnm> wrote:

>

>

>>Marco Desloovere wrote:

>>

>>>Would you really trust a product riddled with so many security

>>>vulnerabilities?

>>>How many Ubuntu vulnerabilities have not yet been discovered?

>>>

>>>Beware, not for the faint of heart, this list is huge:

>>>http://www.ubuntu.com/usn

>>>

>>>Marco

>>

>>

>>Uhhh...hold on one second...I see no need whatsoever to install any of

>>those "security updates'...seeing as how we've all been brainwashed into

>>believing that ubuntu is 100% bullet proof secure and needs no security

>>at all...it's safe that way out of the box, right?

>>Or did we get lied to?

>

>

> I thought that was Microsoft's hype about Vista.

>

 

Uhhh...aren't you the same guy who stood in the beans line thinking it

was the brains line...that's was you, right?

Frank

Leythos wrote:

> In article <faft25$hbt$1@aioe.org>, iamalias@shoesgmail.com says...

>> I get a little icon on the upper panel telling me there are updates.

>> Don't have to check every single program I have installed to know if

>> there is one or not which is one of many reasons that Ubuntu is more

>> user friendly than Windows.

>

> All of the programs provided by MS get updates without me having to do

> anything... Windows XP, Office 2003/2007... Server 2003....

>

> My systems update as reliably as the last one I had running Ubuntu...

>

 

Java, Spybot, AdAware, Spywareblaster, Flash, etc. do not update

automatically. With Ubuntu *everything* on your computer is updated

automatically.

 

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Kerry Brown [Tue, 21 Aug 2007 17:47:42 -0700] wrote:

>Yes, all complex programs including OS' have bugs that can possibly be

>exploited. Was this news to you or are you trolling?

 

It's supposed to be a message to all those misguided Ubuntu trolls in

this Windows Vista group.

 

All computer operating systems have one thing in common: they are

created by human beings all human beings make mistakes.

Therefore, *all* operating systems are prone to security

vulnerabilities, because of common *human* errors, and not because one

is called Microsoft Windows and the other Ubuntu Linux or whatever.

 

Marco

Leythos [Tue, 21 Aug 2007 21:15:08 -0400] wrote:

>In article <r1qmc3ppq63n1utng0abil663dirv4vi4u@4ax.com>,

>marco_desloovere@yahoo.com says...

>> Would you really trust a product riddled with so many security

>> vulnerabilities?

>> How many Ubuntu vulnerabilities have not yet been discovered?

>>

>> Beware, not for the faint of heart, this list is huge:

>> http://www.ubuntu.com/usn

>

>Alias and Adam are going to hate you - showing more than 500 exploits in

>Ubuntu....

 

Well, yeah, the truth is always painful... -)

 

Marco

Frank [Tue, 21 Aug 2007 19:55:18 -0700] wrote:

>Marco Desloovere wrote:

>> Would you really trust a product riddled with so many security

>> vulnerabilities?

>> How many Ubuntu vulnerabilities have not yet been discovered?

>>

>> Beware, not for the faint of heart, this list is huge:

>> http://www.ubuntu.com/usn

>>

>> Marco

>

>

>Uhhh...hold on one second...I see no need whatsoever to install any of

>those "security updates'...seeing as how we've all been brainwashed into

>believing that ubuntu is 100% bullet proof secure and needs no security

>at all...it's safe that way out of the box, right?

>Or did we get lied to?

>Frank

 

It just goes to show that there are no perfect operating systems, simply

because there are no perfect human beings to create them.

 

Marco

Adam Albright [Tue, 21 Aug 2007 22:17:10 -0500] wrote:

>On Tue, 21 Aug 2007 19:55:18 -0700, Frank <fb@nospaner.cnm> wrote:

>

>>Marco Desloovere wrote:

>>> Would you really trust a product riddled with so many security

>>> vulnerabilities?

>>> How many Ubuntu vulnerabilities have not yet been discovered?

>>>

>>> Beware, not for the faint of heart, this list is huge:

>>> http://www.ubuntu.com/usn

>>>

>>> Marco

>>

>>

>>Uhhh...hold on one second...I see no need whatsoever to install any of

>>those "security updates'...seeing as how we've all been brainwashed into

>>believing that ubuntu is 100% bullet proof secure and needs no security

>>at all...it's safe that way out of the box, right?

>>Or did we get lied to?

>

>I thought that was Microsoft's hype about Vista.

 

Speaking for myself, Vista is running very reliably, and at the end of

the day, this is all that really counts for me.

 

Marco

In article <dqOyi.79014$rX4.36737@pd7urf2no>, nospam@nospam.com says...

> Please don't try and confuse reality with facts. In Leythos' small warped

> mind, nothing beats his beloved XP. That should say enough right there.

 

More lies from the Zealot group?

 

I have Fedora Core running on several workstations in my office, love

it, but I work with companies that use Windows, and XP is still a better

and more productive OS than Vista is at this time.

 

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- Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum.

- Calling an illegal alien an "undocumented worker" is like calling a

drug dealer an "unlicensed pharmacist"

spam999free@rrohio.com (remove 999 for proper email address)

In article <fagsdv$ssh$4@aioe.org>, iamalias@shoesgmail.com says...

> Leythos wrote:

> > In article <faft25$hbt$1@aioe.org>, iamalias@shoesgmail.com says...

> >> I get a little icon on the upper panel telling me there are updates.

> >> Don't have to check every single program I have installed to know if

> >> there is one or not which is one of many reasons that Ubuntu is more

> >> user friendly than Windows.

> >

> > All of the programs provided by MS get updates without me having to do

> > anything... Windows XP, Office 2003/2007... Server 2003....

> >

> > My systems update as reliably as the last one I had running Ubuntu...

> >

>

> Java, Spybot, AdAware, Spywareblaster, Flash, etc. do not update

> automatically. With Ubuntu *everything* on your computer is updated

> automatically.

 

Java and Flash update automatically, don't use the others, so they don't

need updated. All Windows software updates automatically.

 

--

 

Leythos

- Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum.

- Calling an illegal alien an "undocumented worker" is like calling a

drug dealer an "unlicensed pharmacist"

spam999free@rrohio.com (remove 999 for proper email address)

Leythos wrote:

> In article <fagsdv$ssh$4@aioe.org>, iamalias@shoesgmail.com says...

>> Leythos wrote:

>>> In article <faft25$hbt$1@aioe.org>, iamalias@shoesgmail.com says...

>>>> I get a little icon on the upper panel telling me there are updates.

>>>> Don't have to check every single program I have installed to know if

>>>> there is one or not which is one of many reasons that Ubuntu is more

>>>> user friendly than Windows.

>>> All of the programs provided by MS get updates without me having to do

>>> anything... Windows XP, Office 2003/2007... Server 2003....

>>>

>>> My systems update as reliably as the last one I had running Ubuntu...

>>>

>> Java, Spybot, AdAware, Spywareblaster, Flash, etc. do not update

>> automatically. With Ubuntu *everything* on your computer is updated

>> automatically.

>

> Java and Flash update automatically,

 

Um, no they don't and you have to remove old Java installations which

isn't done automatically either. In both cases, you have to open them

for them to update. With Ubuntu, you don't need to open *anything* for

the repository to tell you you have updates.

 

don't use the others, so they don't

> need updated. All Windows software updates automatically.

 

Only if you open the programs. See above.

 

 

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Marco Desloovere wrote:

> Kerry Brown [Tue, 21 Aug 2007 17:47:42 -0700] wrote:

>

>> Yes, all complex programs including OS' have bugs that can possibly be

>> exploited. Was this news to you or are you trolling?

>

> It's supposed to be a message to all those misguided Ubuntu trolls in

> this Windows Vista group.

>

> All computer operating systems have one thing in common: they are

> created by human beings all human beings make mistakes.

> Therefore, *all* operating systems are prone to security

> vulnerabilities, because of common *human* errors, and not because one

> is called Microsoft Windows and the other Ubuntu Linux or whatever.

>

> Marco

 

Fact: Windows is more prone to exploits than Linux.

 

 

Fact: No Linux boxes form a part of herd bots. Millions of Windows boxes

do and that's why we get so much spam.

 

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In article <OjQjlML5HHA.4712@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl>,

iamalias@shoesgmail.com. says...

> Leythos wrote:

> > In article <fagsdv$ssh$4@aioe.org>, iamalias@shoesgmail.com says...

> >> Leythos wrote:

> >>> In article <faft25$hbt$1@aioe.org>, iamalias@shoesgmail.com says...

> >>>> I get a little icon on the upper panel telling me there are updates.

> >>>> Don't have to check every single program I have installed to know if

> >>>> there is one or not which is one of many reasons that Ubuntu is more

> >>>> user friendly than Windows.

> >>> All of the programs provided by MS get updates without me having to do

> >>> anything... Windows XP, Office 2003/2007... Server 2003....

> >>>

> >>> My systems update as reliably as the last one I had running Ubuntu...

> >>>

> >> Java, Spybot, AdAware, Spywareblaster, Flash, etc. do not update

> >> automatically. With Ubuntu *everything* on your computer is updated

> >> automatically.

> >

> > Java and Flash update automatically,

>

> Um, no they don't and you have to remove old Java installations which

> isn't done automatically either. In both cases, you have to open them

> for them to update. With Ubuntu, you don't need to open *anything* for

> the repository to tell you you have updates.

 

Nope, it's updating just fine and the old version is not there, try

again.

> don't use the others, so they don't

> > need updated. All Windows software updates automatically.

>

> Only if you open the programs. See above.

 

Nope, Office programs get updates as they are ready, maybe you just

don't have your machines configured properly. I see there our machines

that have Update function set to download but not install (our choice)

have Office, Windows, and other updates ready when we check). All of the

workstations update all Windows, Office, Java, and Adobe apps without

the user doing anything other than using the computer.

 

--

 

Leythos

- Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum.

- Calling an illegal alien an "undocumented worker" is like calling a

drug dealer an "unlicensed pharmacist"

spam999free@rrohio.com (remove 999 for proper email address)

Leythos wrote:

> In article <OjQjlML5HHA.4712@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl>,

> iamalias@shoesgmail.com. says...

>> Leythos wrote:

>>> In article <fagsdv$ssh$4@aioe.org>, iamalias@shoesgmail.com says...

>>>> Leythos wrote:

>>>>> In article <faft25$hbt$1@aioe.org>, iamalias@shoesgmail.com says...

>>>>>> I get a little icon on the upper panel telling me there are updates.

>>>>>> Don't have to check every single program I have installed to know if

>>>>>> there is one or not which is one of many reasons that Ubuntu is more

>>>>>> user friendly than Windows.

>>>>> All of the programs provided by MS get updates without me having to do

>>>>> anything... Windows XP, Office 2003/2007... Server 2003....

>>>>>

>>>>> My systems update as reliably as the last one I had running Ubuntu...

>>>>>

>>>> Java, Spybot, AdAware, Spywareblaster, Flash, etc. do not update

>>>> automatically. With Ubuntu *everything* on your computer is updated

>>>> automatically.

>>> Java and Flash update automatically,

>> Um, no they don't and you have to remove old Java installations which

>> isn't done automatically either. In both cases, you have to open them

>> for them to update. With Ubuntu, you don't need to open *anything* for

>> the repository to tell you you have updates.

>

> Nope, it's updating just fine and the old version is not there, try

> again.

>

>> don't use the others, so they don't

>>> need updated. All Windows software updates automatically.

>> Only if you open the programs. See above.

>

> Nope, Office programs get updates as they are ready, maybe you just

> don't have your machines configured properly. I see there our machines

> that have Update function set to download but not install (our choice)

> have Office, Windows, and other updates ready when we check). All of the

> workstations update all Windows, Office, Java, and Adobe apps without

> the user doing anything other than using the computer.

>

 

Bullsh¡t. Save your lies for the newbies. I know differently as do most

of the readers of this ng.

 

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