Firefox, Seamonkey, Thunderbird, etc. all have a security update today.

 

 

 

--

 

Alias

BFD.

 

 

 

You going to start posting what you had for dinner next? You going to start

 

adding "Just FYI" to your posts?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

"Alias" wrote in message

 

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> Firefox, Seamonkey, Thunderbird, etc. all have a security update today.

 

>

 

> --

 

> Alias

On 7/21/2010 4:51 PM, Bill Yanaire, ESQ wrote:

 

> BFD.

 

 

 

To some people, security is a BFD.

 

 

 

Snip childish drivel.

 

 

>

 

> "Alias" wrote in message

 

> news:i271ao$g4q$2@news.eternal-september.org...

 

>> Firefox, Seamonkey, Thunderbird, etc. all have a security update today.

 

>>

 

>> --

 

>> Alias

 

>

 

 

 

 

 

--

 

Alias

"Alias" wrote in message

 

news:i271me$hft$2@news.eternal-september.org...

 

> On 7/21/2010 4:51 PM, Bill Yanaire, ESQ wrote:

 

>> BFD.

 

>

 

> To some people, security is a BFD.

 

>

 

> Snip childish drivel.

 

>

 

 

 

Very funny. You've been posting childish drivel all day! Can't take it can

 

you?

On 07/21/2010 05:00 PM, Bill Yanaire, ESQ wrote:

 

>

 

>

 

> "Alias" wrote in message

 

> news:i271me$hft$2@news.eternal-september.org...

 

>> On 7/21/2010 4:51 PM, Bill Yanaire, ESQ wrote:

 

>>> BFD.

 

>>

 

>> To some people, security is a BFD.

 

>>

 

>> Snip childish drivel.

 

>>

 

>

 

> Very funny. You've been posting childish drivel all day!

 

 

 

False.

 

 

> Can't take it

 

> can you?

 

 

 

Take what, your drivel? LOL, don't flatter yourself.

 

 

 

This post of mine is helpful, especially if you use Mozilla products. It

 

has NOT been announced on the tech sites, Yahoo or Google News. Your and

 

Frank's posts never are helpful.

 

 

 

--

 

Alias

Alias wrote:

 

 

> Firefox, Seamonkey, Thunderbird, etc. all have a security update today.

 

 

 

This has what to do with Windows XP, the topic of *these* newsgroups?

"VanguardLH" wrote in message

 

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> Alias wrote:

 

>

 

>> Firefox, Seamonkey, Thunderbird, etc. all have a security update today.

 

>

 

> This has what to do with Windows XP, the topic of *these* newsgroups?

 

 

 

Don't pay attention to Alias. He's confused.

On 7/21/2010 5:55 PM, VanguardLH wrote:

 

> Alias wrote:

 

>

 

>> Firefox, Seamonkey, Thunderbird, etc. all have a security update today.

 

>

 

> This has what to do with Windows XP, the topic of *these* newsgroups?

 

 

 

A lot of people who use XP or Win 7 also use Mozilla products, what

 

else? By updating these products you are making XP more secure.

 

 

 

--

 

Alias

"Alias" wrote in message

 

news:i2763s$378$1@news.eternal-september.org...

 

: On 7/21/2010 5:55 PM, VanguardLH wrote:

 

: > Alias wrote:

 

: >

 

: >> Firefox, Seamonkey, Thunderbird, etc. all have a security update today.

 

: >

 

: > This has what to do with Windows XP, the topic of *these* newsgroups?

 

:

 

: A lot of people who use XP or Win 7 also use Mozilla products, what

 

: else? By updating these products you are making XP more secure.

 

:

 

: --

 

: Alias

 

 

 

No, you trolling HoopleHead. You're making the Mozilla products more secure.

On 7/21/2010 6:27 PM, Ernest T. Bass wrote:

 

> "Alias" wrote in message

 

> news:i2763s$378$1@news.eternal-september.org...

 

> : On 7/21/2010 5:55 PM, VanguardLH wrote:

 

> :> Alias wrote:

 

> :>

 

> :>> Firefox, Seamonkey, Thunderbird, etc. all have a security update today.

 

> :>

 

> :> This has what to do with Windows XP, the topic of *these* newsgroups?

 

> :

 

> : A lot of people who use XP or Win 7 also use Mozilla products, what

 

> : else? By updating these products you are making XP more secure.

 

> :

 

> : --

 

> : Alias

 

>

 

> No, you trolling HoopleHead. You're making the Mozilla products more secure.

 

>

 

>

 

 

 

Which, in turn, makes the OS safer. Most malware comes through the

 

browser. Course the news reader (Outhouse Distress) you're using will

 

not be updated so you are pretty stupid when it comes to computer

 

security and no one should listen to you.

 

 

 

--

 

Alias

On 21/07/10 16:55, VanguardLH wrote:

 

> Alias wrote:

 

>

 

>> Firefox, Seamonkey, Thunderbird, etc. all have a security update today.

 

>

 

> This has what to do with Windows XP, the topic of *these* newsgroups?

 

 

 

It wasn't Alias who crossposted it - his original post was to

 

alt.windows7.general

"Alias" wrote in message

 

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> Firefox, Seamonkey, Thunderbird, etc. all have a security update today.

 

>

 

> --

 

> Alias

 

 

 

Well I for one thank you for the tip, as, for some reason my Firefox had not

 

yet picked up the update automatically. And my XP system must be safer with

 

it than without.

 

 

 

(I have IE8, but I have never found a way to speed up it's opening, and got

 

fed up just staring at a tab labelled 'connecting' for ages, just to get to

 

'about blank'. No such issue with Firefox.)

 

 

 

Cheers,

 

 

 

S

Alias wrote:

 

> A lot of people who use XP or Win 7 also use Mozilla products, what

 

> else? By updating these products you are making XP more secure.

 

 

 

No - you are not making the operating system (XP in your example) more

 

secure.

 

 

 

You may be making the user data more secure that is stored on the system

 

drive/other storage devices that may be running a particular operating

 

system (XP in your example) - but you have not made the operating system

 

itself more secure.

 

 

 

You are making the data more secure because you are closing possible access

 

points to the data through 'issues' in the current version of whatever

 

application you are patching. You have done nothing to the core of the

 

operating system and the hole might not even exist if the application in

 

question was not installed.

 

 

 

If I purchase a bolt-down floor safe and put it in my home, my *home* is not

 

more secure but the valuables I store in the safe may be.

 

 

 

--

 

Shenan Stanley

 

MS-MVP

 

--

 

How To Ask Questions The Smart Way

 

http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

"Alias" wrote in message

 

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> This post of mine is helpful, especially if you use Mozilla products. It

 

> has NOT been announced on the tech sites, Yahoo or Google News.

 

 

 

Tools -> Options -> Advanced -> Updates (tab).

 

 

 

Check "Firefox" in "Automatically check for updates ..." and check your

 

notification prefernce.

 

 

 

Then you won't have to be the self-appointed boy who cried "Wolf!", since

 

nobody is listening anyway.

 

 

 

If you had even bothered to give

 

http://mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/3.6.7/whatsnew/ even a cursory examination,

 

you would've easily seen that the update was not a security issue, but

 

rather more cosmetic than anything.

 

 

 

Get a life, please. Nobody needs you to tell them things they already know.

"Gordon" wrote in message

 

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> It wasn't Alias who crossposted it - his original post was to

 

> alt.windows7.general

 

 

 

Bzzzzzzzzzzt ... wrong:

 

 

 

From: Alias

 

Newsgroups: alt.windows7.general,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general

 

Subject: Updates for Everything Mozilla

 

Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2010 16:47:48 +0200

On 7/21/2010 7:08 PM, Shenan Stanley wrote:

 

> Alias wrote:

 

>> A lot of people who use XP or Win 7 also use Mozilla products, what

 

>> else? By updating these products you are making XP more secure.

 

>

 

> No - you are not making the operating system (XP in your example) more

 

> secure.

 

>

 

> You may be making the user data more secure that is stored on the system

 

> drive/other storage devices that may be running a particular operating

 

> system (XP in your example) - but you have not made the operating system

 

> itself more secure.

 

>

 

> You are making the data more secure because you are closing possible access

 

> points to the data through 'issues' in the current version of whatever

 

> application you are patching. You have done nothing to the core of the

 

> operating system and the hole might not even exist if the application in

 

> question was not installed.

 

>

 

> If I purchase a bolt-down floor safe and put it in my home, my *home* is not

 

> more secure but the valuables I store in the safe may be.

 

>

 

 

 

Does the term nitpicker ring a bell?

 

 

 

--

 

Alias

On 7/21/2010 7:31 PM, Greg Russell wrote:

 

> "Gordon" wrote in message

 

> news:i278qd$bl$1@news.eternal-september.org...

 

>

 

>> It wasn't Alias who crossposted it - his original post was to

 

>> alt.windows7.general

 

>

 

> Bzzzzzzzzzzt ... wrong:

 

>

 

> From: Alias

 

> Newsgroups: alt.windows7.general,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general

 

> Subject: Updates for Everything Mozilla

 

> Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2010 16:47:48 +0200

 

>

 

>

 

 

 

So where do we send you your gold star?

 

 

 

--

 

Alias

"Alias" wrote in message

 

news:i27b4q$lsi$4@news.eternal-september.org...

 

 

> So where do we send you your gold star?

 

 

 

You're just digging your idiot hole deeper every time you reply, moron.

On 7/21/2010 8:03 AM, Alias wrote:

 

> On 07/21/2010 05:00 PM, Bill Yanaire, ESQ wrote:

 

>>

 

>>

 

>> "Alias" wrote in message

 

>> news:i271me$hft$2@news.eternal-september.org...

 

>>> On 7/21/2010 4:51 PM, Bill Yanaire, ESQ wrote:

 

>>>> BFD.

 

>>>

 

>>> To some people, security is a BFD.

 

>>>

 

>>> Snip childish drivel.

 

>>>

 

>>

 

>> Very funny. You've been posting childish drivel all day!

 

>

 

> False.

 

>

 

>> Can't take it

 

>> can you?

 

>

 

> Take what, your drivel? LOL, don't flatter yourself.

 

>

 

> This post of mine is helpful, especially if you use Mozilla products. It

 

> has NOT been announced on the tech sites, Yahoo or Google News. Your and

 

> Frank's posts never are helpful.

 

>

 

You just can't seem to come to grips with the fact that this is a

 

Windows 7 ng, can you?

 

Or is it that fact that pisses you off so much?

 

Live with it *SPORT*!

"Alias" wrote in message

 

news:i27b4q$lsi$4@news.eternal-september.org...

 

> On 7/21/2010 7:31 PM, Greg Russell wrote:

 

>> "Gordon" wrote in message

 

>> news:i278qd$bl$1@news.eternal-september.org...

 

>>

 

>>> It wasn't Alias who crossposted it - his original post was to

 

>>> alt.windows7.general

 

>>

 

>> Bzzzzzzzzzzt ... wrong:

 

>>

 

>> From: Alias

 

>> Newsgroups: alt.windows7.general,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general

 

>> Subject: Updates for Everything Mozilla

 

>> Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2010 16:47:48 +0200

 

>>

 

>>

 

>

 

> So where do we send you your gold star?

 

>

 

> --

 

> Alias

 

 

 

You really are getting slammed by everyone. How does it feel to be stoned

 

and stupid? Why don't you migrate to the Ubuntu forums and try to help out

 

those sorry sacks who believe they have a decent OS when in reality they

 

have SHIT?

> If you had even bothered to give

 

> http://mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/3.6.7/whatsnew/ even a

 

> cursory examination, you would've easily seen that the

 

> update was not a security issue, but rather more cosmetic

 

> than anything.

 

>

 

> Get a life, please. Nobody needs you to tell them things

 

> they already know.

 

 

 

That's all fine and dandy, but that's an update to a new version

 

of Firefox, not a security update to an existing FF.

 

 

 

Also, I have all three boxes checked for 'Automatically Check

 

for Updates', with 'Ask me what I want to do checked', and the

 

last time I saw that updates were available was a week or two

 

ago, I think.

 

 

 

However, if I go to Help -> Check for Updates, I am told "A

 

security and stability update for Firefox is available: Firefox

 

v3.5.11" as I'm currently using 3.5.5.

 

 

 

Guess what....I didn't know there were any updates ready, so he

 

wasn't telling me things I already knew.

In news:Xns9DBCB7A18AFCFthisnthatroadrunnern@216.196.97.131,

 

DanS typed:

 

 

> However, if I go to Help -> Check for Updates, I am told "A

 

> security and stability update for Firefox is available: Firefox

 

> v3.5.11" as I'm currently using 3.5.5.

 

 

 

FF 3.6 has been available for at least 2010 and part of 2009.

 

 

 

Don't blame others for your own problems when you run antiquated

 

applications.

"Greg Russell" wrote in

 

news:8apdjmFcvU1@mid.individual.net:

 

 

> In

 

> news:Xns9DBCB7A18AFCFthisnthatroadrunnern@216.196.97.131,

 

> DanS typed:

 

>

 

>> However, if I go to Help -> Check for Updates, I am told

 

>> "A security and stability update for Firefox is available:

 

>> Firefox v3.5.11" as I'm currently using 3.5.5.

 

>

 

> FF 3.6 has been available for at least 2010 and part of

 

> 2009.

 

>

 

> Don't blame others for your own problems when you run

 

> antiquated applications.

 

 

 

v.3.6 released January 21st, 2010

 

http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/3.6/releasenotes/

 

 

 

Forgive me if I expect that 'automatically check for updates'

 

would notify me of ALL updates, not just minor updates to

 

'major' releases...

 

 

 

Isn't that what 'Automatically check for updates' means ?

 

(Rhetorical)

On 7/21/2010 7:26 PM, Greg Russell wrote:

 

> "Alias" wrote in message

 

> news:i2727p$jov$1@news.eternal-september.org...

 

>

 

>> This post of mine is helpful, especially if you use Mozilla products. It

 

>> has NOT been announced on the tech sites, Yahoo or Google News.

 

>

 

> Tools -> Options -> Advanced -> Updates (tab).

 

>

 

> Check "Firefox" in "Automatically check for updates ..." and check your

 

> notification prefernce.

 

>

 

> Then you won't have to be the self-appointed boy who cried "Wolf!", since

 

> nobody is listening anyway.

 

>

 

> If you had even bothered to give

 

> http://mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/3.6.7/whatsnew/ even a cursory examination,

 

> you would've easily seen that the update was not a security issue, but

 

> rather more cosmetic than anything.

 

>

 

> Get a life, please. Nobody needs you to tell them things they already know.

 

>

 

>

 

 

 

You need to get a life. It was a security update according to Firefox

 

when you check for updates. If you don't like my post, don't read it.

 

 

 

--

 

Alias

On 22/07/10 12:22, DanS wrote:

 

> "Greg Russell" wrote in

 

> news:8apdjmFcvU1@mid.individual.net:

 

>

 

>> In

 

>> news:Xns9DBCB7A18AFCFthisnthatroadrunnern@216.196.97.131,

 

>> DanS typed:

 

>>

 

>>> However, if I go to Help -> Check for Updates, I am told

 

>>> "A security and stability update for Firefox is available:

 

>>> Firefox v3.5.11" as I'm currently using 3.5.5.

 

>>

 

>> FF 3.6 has been available for at least 2010 and part of

 

>> 2009.

 

>>

 

>> Don't blame others for your own problems when you run

 

>> antiquated applications.

 

>

 

> v.3.6 released January 21st, 2010

 

> http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/3.6/releasenotes/

 

>

 

> Forgive me if I expect that 'automatically check for updates'

 

> would notify me of ALL updates, not just minor updates to

 

> 'major' releases...

 

>

 

> Isn't that what 'Automatically check for updates' means ?

 

> (Rhetorical)

 

 

 

I discovered that there is a problem when you run TBird as a Standard

 

User in Win 7. Not only does it not notify of updates, it doesn't allow

 

you to update either.

 

You have to start TBird with the "Run as Admin" function in order to a)

 

see if there ARE any updates and then b) to actually APPLY those updates.

 

At least, that's what happened here.