New PC arriving Monday with 1 TB HDD.

 

I like as much as possible to keep OS and files separate, also an image of

 

C: on a separate partition or drive.

 

When installing Win 7 from DVD is it easy to set partition sizes there or

 

should I complete the install then use partitioning software, probably

 

Paragon?

 

How much space should I allocate for OS & apps?

 

With XP I used a 30GB partition and had space to spare, will I need more for

 

Win 7?

 

Replies appreciated.

 

 

 

--

 

 

 

Kenny Cargill

"Kenny" wrote in message news:wP2dnUUb3ZLEnd3RnZ2dnUVZ8m-dnZ2d@brightview.com...

 

 

 

New PC arriving Monday with 1 TB HDD.

 

I like as much as possible to keep OS and files separate, also an image of

 

C: on a separate partition or drive.

 

When installing Win 7 from DVD is it easy to set partition sizes there or

 

should I complete the install then use partitioning software, probably

 

Paragon?

 

How much space should I allocate for OS & apps?

 

With XP I used a 30GB partition and had space to spare, will I need more for

 

Win 7?

 

Replies appreciated.

 

 

 

--

 

 

 

Kenny Cargill

 

 

 

 

 

To be on the safe side, 50GB for Windows and applications.

"Kenny" wrote in message

 

news:wP2dnUUb3ZLEnd3RnZ2dnUVZ8m-dnZ2d@brightview.com...

 

> New PC arriving Monday with 1 TB HDD.

 

> I like as much as possible to keep OS and files separate, also an image of

 

> C: on a separate partition or drive.

 

> When installing Win 7 from DVD is it easy to set partition sizes there or

 

> should I complete the install then use partitioning software, probably

 

> Paragon?

 

> How much space should I allocate for OS & apps?

 

> With XP I used a 30GB partition and had space to spare, will I need more

 

> for Win 7?

 

> Replies appreciated.

 

>

 

> --

 

>

 

> Kenny Cargill

 

>

 

 

 

I have a 100gb partition for my Win7 install, which I am finding is really

 

way more than enough.

 

My Win7 64 bit install uses around 25 gb, however I do keep my documents and

 

pictures on a separate partition , and most of my applications on a separate

 

partition as well.

 

50gb would probably be a good starting point, maybe a little more if your

 

going to keep your document folders and apps on the system partition as

 

well.

 

 

 

As far as partitioning, I myself find it easiest to just go ahead and

 

partition my OS partition during the Windows 7 install, then I partition the

 

rest after the install is completed through disk management in Windows 7.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

--

 

Don

On 16/07/2010 12:44, Don wrote:

 

 

> and most of my applications on a separate partition as well.

 

 

 

Absolutely no point in that - if you re-install Windows then you have to

 

re-install applications anyway...

"Gordon" wrote in message

 

news:i1pl3r$h1q$2@news.eternal-september.org...

 

> On 16/07/2010 12:44, Don wrote:

 

>

 

>> and most of my applications on a separate partition as well.

 

>

 

> Absolutely no point in that - if you re-install Windows then you have to

 

> re-install applications anyway...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Yes I understand that, just an organizational thing that works for me.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

--

 

Don

Don wrote:

 

>

 

> "Gordon" wrote in message

 

> news:i1pl3r$h1q$2@news.eternal-september.org...

 

>> On 16/07/2010 12:44, Don wrote:

 

>>

 

>>> and most of my applications on a separate partition as well.

 

>>

 

>> Absolutely no point in that - if you re-install Windows then you

 

>> have to re-install applications anyway...

 

>

 

> Yes I understand that, just an organizational thing that works for

 

> me.

 

 

 

I have also installed in a 100 GB partition. While it is overkill right

 

now, I am allowing for update creep, with service packs and just

 

miscellaneous crud that accumulates over time.

 

 

 

I also keep my applications separate from the OS as much as possible.

 

One way to avoid having to reinstall apps is to use portable versions.

 

 

 

--

 

Crash

 

 

 

One man's weed is another man's wildflower.

"Don" wrote in message

 

news:FbidnXgM8MWM293RnZ2dnUVZ_gKdnZ2d@giganews.com...

 

>

 

> "Kenny" wrote in message

 

> news:wP2dnUUb3ZLEnd3RnZ2dnUVZ8m-dnZ2d@brightview.com...

 

>> New PC arriving Monday with 1 TB HDD.

 

>> I like as much as possible to keep OS and files separate, also an image

 

>> of C: on a separate partition or drive.

 

>> When installing Win 7 from DVD is it easy to set partition sizes there or

 

>> should I complete the install then use partitioning software, probably

 

>> Paragon?

 

>> How much space should I allocate for OS & apps?

 

>> With XP I used a 30GB partition and had space to spare, will I need more

 

>> for Win 7?

 

>> Replies appreciated.

 

>>

 

>> --

 

>>

 

>> Kenny Cargill

 

>>

 

>

 

> I have a 100gb partition for my Win7 install, which I am finding is really

 

> way more than enough.

 

> My Win7 64 bit install uses around 25 gb, however I do keep my documents

 

> and pictures on a separate partition , and most of my applications on a

 

> separate partition as well.

 

> 50gb would probably be a good starting point, maybe a little more if your

 

> going to keep your document folders and apps on the system partition as

 

> well.

 

>

 

> As far as partitioning, I myself find it easiest to just go ahead and

 

> partition my OS partition during the Windows 7 install, then I partition

 

> the rest after the install is completed through disk management in Windows

 

> 7.

 

>

 

>

 

I go one better than that.

 

 

 

I install the operating system and applications on the C: drive.

 

 

 

I then have another drive (D:) which I use to store my data and

 

pictures/video files.

 

 

 

If C: drive crashes or I need to do a reinstall of the OS, I just wipe out

 

the drive without worrying about my data because it's on another drive.

 

 

 

By the way, I have an external drive in a cradle (USB) and then copy the

 

data over to it so I have a backup in case the D: drive crashes!

On Fri, 16 Jul 2010 08:49:51 -0700, "Bill Yanaire, ESQ"

 

wrote:

 

 

>I go one better than that.

 

>

 

>I install the operating system and applications on the C: drive.

 

>

 

>I then have another drive (D:) which I use to store my data and

 

>pictures/video files.

 

>

 

>If C: drive crashes or I need to do a reinstall of the OS, I just wipe out

 

>the drive without worrying about my data because it's on another drive.

 

>

 

>By the way, I have an external drive in a cradle (USB) and then copy the

 

>data over to it so I have a backup in case the D: drive crashes!

 

>

 

>

 

 

 

That's how I arrange my W7 PC. C: drive for OS, applications and

 

developments, D: drive for data, external E: drive for backup, and a

 

XP PC also connected to the external drive with more copies of the

 

data. Finally, web sites with copies of the really, really important

 

stuff!

 

 

 

Steve

 

 

 

--

 

Neural Planner Software Ltd http://www.NPSL1.com

 

EasyNN-plus. Neural Networks plus. http://www.easynn.com

 

SwingNN. Forecast with Neural Networks. http://www.swingnn.com

 

JustNN. Just Neural Networks. http://www.justnn.com

"Bill Yanaire, ESQ" wrote in message

 

news:4c407fa9$1@news.x-privat.org...

 

>

 

>

 

> "Don" wrote in message

 

> news:FbidnXgM8MWM293RnZ2dnUVZ_gKdnZ2d@giganews.com...

 

>>

 

>> "Kenny" wrote in message

 

>> news:wP2dnUUb3ZLEnd3RnZ2dnUVZ8m-dnZ2d@brightview.com...

 

>>> New PC arriving Monday with 1 TB HDD.

 

>>> I like as much as possible to keep OS and files separate, also an image

 

>>> of C: on a separate partition or drive.

 

>>> When installing Win 7 from DVD is it easy to set partition sizes there

 

>>> or should I complete the install then use partitioning software,

 

>>> probably Paragon?

 

>>> How much space should I allocate for OS & apps?

 

>>> With XP I used a 30GB partition and had space to spare, will I need more

 

>>> for Win 7?

 

>>> Replies appreciated.

 

>>>

 

>>> --

 

>>>

 

>>> Kenny Cargill

 

>>>

 

>>

 

>> I have a 100gb partition for my Win7 install, which I am finding is

 

>> really way more than enough.

 

>> My Win7 64 bit install uses around 25 gb, however I do keep my documents

 

>> and pictures on a separate partition , and most of my applications on a

 

>> separate partition as well.

 

>> 50gb would probably be a good starting point, maybe a little more if your

 

>> going to keep your document folders and apps on the system partition as

 

>> well.

 

>>

 

>> As far as partitioning, I myself find it easiest to just go ahead and

 

>> partition my OS partition during the Windows 7 install, then I partition

 

>> the rest after the install is completed through disk management in

 

>> Windows 7.

 

>>

 

>>

 

> I go one better than that.

 

>

 

> I install the operating system and applications on the C: drive.

 

>

 

> I then have another drive (D:) which I use to store my data and

 

> pictures/video files.

 

>

 

> If C: drive crashes or I need to do a reinstall of the OS, I just wipe out

 

> the drive without worrying about my data because it's on another drive.

 

>

 

> By the way, I have an external drive in a cradle (USB) and then copy the

 

> data over to it so I have a backup in case the D: drive crashes!

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

 

 

That's because you've been using a computer long enough to know you only

 

need data backups.

 

These silly young people feel a need to back up the entire OS.

 

They don't understand the concept of user data.

 

Just back up every friggen thing under the sun in one fell swoop.

 

 

 

But, PC manufacturers share the blame, as they don't come with OS disk

 

anymore, unless you ask(some still don't, ask or not).

 

 

 

--

 

Vita brevis breviter in brevi finietur,

 

Mors venit velociter quae neminem veretur.

On 7/16/2010 8:49 AM, Bill Yanaire, ESQ wrote:

 

>

 

>

 

> "Don" wrote in message

 

> news:FbidnXgM8MWM293RnZ2dnUVZ_gKdnZ2d@giganews.com...

 

>>

 

>> "Kenny" wrote in message

 

>> news:wP2dnUUb3ZLEnd3RnZ2dnUVZ8m-dnZ2d@brightview.com...

 

>>> New PC arriving Monday with 1 TB HDD.

 

>>> I like as much as possible to keep OS and files separate, also an

 

>>> image of C: on a separate partition or drive.

 

>>> When installing Win 7 from DVD is it easy to set partition sizes

 

>>> there or should I complete the install then use partitioning

 

>>> software, probably Paragon?

 

>>> How much space should I allocate for OS & apps?

 

>>> With XP I used a 30GB partition and had space to spare, will I need

 

>>> more for Win 7?

 

>>> Replies appreciated.

 

>>>

 

>>> --

 

>>>

 

>>> Kenny Cargill

 

>>>

 

>>

 

>> I have a 100gb partition for my Win7 install, which I am finding is

 

>> really way more than enough.

 

>> My Win7 64 bit install uses around 25 gb, however I do keep my

 

>> documents and pictures on a separate partition , and most of my

 

>> applications on a separate partition as well.

 

>> 50gb would probably be a good starting point, maybe a little more if

 

>> your going to keep your document folders and apps on the system

 

>> partition as well.

 

>>

 

>> As far as partitioning, I myself find it easiest to just go ahead and

 

>> partition my OS partition during the Windows 7 install, then I

 

>> partition the rest after the install is completed through disk

 

>> management in Windows 7.

 

>>

 

>>

 

> I go one better than that.

 

>

 

> I install the operating system and applications on the C: drive.

 

>

 

> I then have another drive (D:) which I use to store my data and

 

> pictures/video files.

 

>

 

> If C: drive crashes or I need to do a reinstall of the OS, I just wipe

 

> out the drive without worrying about my data because it's on another drive.

 

>

 

> By the way, I have an external drive in a cradle (USB) and then copy the

 

> data over to it so I have a backup in case the D: drive crashes!

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

 

 

Bill, I do pretty much what you do, except that I do a clone of C: every

 

time there's a major change or about every 2 weeks. I have an external

 

eSATA dock to do that. I have a D: driver for files, to include my

 

Outlook email files and Thunderbird files that is backed up to an

 

external USB drive every 24 hours. Well, a full once a week, then

 

incremental every 24 hours.

 

 

 

If my C: drive fails I'm never more than about 5 minutes away from "up

 

and running" again. :-)

 

 

 

 

 

--

 

"There are no jobs that Americans

 

will not do. There are jobs Americans

 

will not be hired for because an

 

illegal alien has taken it."

 

 

 

"Illegal Alien = Job Thief"

 

 

 

http://www.bobhatch.com

 

http://www.tdsrvresort.com

 

http://www.keepazsafe.com/

On 7/16/2010 6:09 PM, Bob Hatch wrote:

 

> "There are no jobs that Americans

 

> will not do.

 

 

 

Yes, there are.

 

 

> There are jobs Americans

 

> will not be hired for because an

 

> illegal alien has taken it."

 

 

 

You drank the right wing wacko kool aide.

 

 

> "Illegal Alien = Job Thief"

 

>

 

> http://www.bobhatch.com

 

> http://www.tdsrvresort.com

 

> http://www.keepazsafe.com/

 

 

 

There's no such thing as an "illegal alien". There are illegal migrants.

 

I'd love to see you after a day of strawberry picking, although you

 

probably would give up after an hour.

 

 

 

--

 

Alias

On 7/16/2010 6:13 PM, Alias wrote:

 

> On 7/16/2010 6:09 PM, Bob Hatch wrote:

 

>> "There are no jobs that Americans

 

>> will not do.

 

>

 

> Yes, there are.

 

>

 

>> There are jobs Americans

 

>> will not be hired for because an

 

>> illegal alien has taken it."

 

>

 

> You drank the right wing wacko kool aide.

 

>

 

>> "Illegal Alien = Job Thief"

 

>>

 

>> http://www.bobhatch.com

 

>> http://www.tdsrvresort.com

 

>> http://www.keepazsafe.com/

 

>

 

> There's no such thing as an "illegal alien". There are illegal migrants.

 

> I'd love to see you after a day of strawberry picking, although you

 

> probably would give up after an hour.

 

>

 

 

 

Course, most illegal migrants *are* Americans. You do know that North,

 

Central and South America are populated with Americans, or do you? Note

 

that it's the United States *of* America, not the United States *is*

 

America.

 

 

 

--

 

Alias

"Alias" wrote in message

 

news:i1q0g3$j36$1@news.eternal-september.org...

 

> On 7/16/2010 6:09 PM, Bob Hatch wrote:

 

>> "There are no jobs that Americans

 

>> will not do.

 

>

 

> Yes, there are.

 

>

 

>> There are jobs Americans

 

>> will not be hired for because an

 

>> illegal alien has taken it."

 

>

 

> You drank the right wing wacko kool aide.

 

>

 

>> "Illegal Alien = Job Thief"

 

>>

 

>> http://www.bobhatch.com

 

>> http://www.tdsrvresort.com

 

>> http://www.keepazsafe.com/

 

>

 

> There's no such thing as an "illegal alien". There are illegal migrants.

 

> I'd love to see you after a day of strawberry picking, although you

 

> probably would give up after an hour.

 

>

 

 

 

The first idiot I've ever seen respond to nothing but the sig...hahaha

 

 

 

--

 

Vita brevis breviter in brevi finietur,

 

Mors venit velociter quae neminem veretur.

On 7/16/2010 6:17 PM, Death wrote:

 

>

 

> "Alias" wrote in message

 

> news:i1q0g3$j36$1@news.eternal-september.org...

 

>> On 7/16/2010 6:09 PM, Bob Hatch wrote:

 

>>> "There are no jobs that Americans

 

>>> will not do.

 

>>

 

>> Yes, there are.

 

>>

 

>>> There are jobs Americans

 

>>> will not be hired for because an

 

>>> illegal alien has taken it."

 

>>

 

>> You drank the right wing wacko kool aide.

 

>>

 

>>> "Illegal Alien = Job Thief"

 

>>>

 

>>> http://www.bobhatch.com

 

>>> http://www.tdsrvresort.com

 

>>> http://www.keepazsafe.com/

 

>>

 

>> There's no such thing as an "illegal alien". There are illegal

 

>> migrants. I'd love to see you after a day of strawberry picking,

 

>> although you probably would give up after an hour.

 

>>

 

>

 

> The first idiot I've ever seen respond to nothing but the sig...hahaha

 

>

 

 

 

You're not the first idiot who never posts anything that isn't

 

flippantly insulting.

 

 

 

--

 

Alias

"Alias" wrote in message

 

news:i1q0r3$l5d$2@news.eternal-september.org...

 

> On 7/16/2010 6:17 PM, Death wrote:

 

>>

 

>> "Alias" wrote in message

 

>> news:i1q0g3$j36$1@news.eternal-september.org...

 

>>> On 7/16/2010 6:09 PM, Bob Hatch wrote:

 

>>>> "There are no jobs that Americans

 

>>>> will not do.

 

>>>

 

>>> Yes, there are.

 

>>>

 

>>>> There are jobs Americans

 

>>>> will not be hired for because an

 

>>>> illegal alien has taken it."

 

>>>

 

>>> You drank the right wing wacko kool aide.

 

>>>

 

>>>> "Illegal Alien = Job Thief"

 

>>>>

 

>>>> http://www.bobhatch.com

 

>>>> http://www.tdsrvresort.com

 

>>>> http://www.keepazsafe.com/

 

>>>

 

>>> There's no such thing as an "illegal alien". There are illegal

 

>>> migrants. I'd love to see you after a day of strawberry picking,

 

>>> although you probably would give up after an hour.

 

>>>

 

>>

 

>> The first idiot I've ever seen respond to nothing but the sig...hahaha

 

>>

 

>

 

> You're not the first idiot who never posts anything that isn't flippantly

 

> insulting.

 

>

 

 

 

Shut up, amigo.

 

 

 

--

 

Vita brevis breviter in brevi finietur,

 

Mors venit velociter quae neminem veretur.

On 07/16/2010 06:20 PM, Death wrote:

 

>

 

> "Alias" wrote in message

 

> news:i1q0r3$l5d$2@news.eternal-september.org...

 

>> On 7/16/2010 6:17 PM, Death wrote:

 

>>>

 

>>> "Alias" wrote in message

 

>>> news:i1q0g3$j36$1@news.eternal-september.org...

 

>>>> On 7/16/2010 6:09 PM, Bob Hatch wrote:

 

>>>>> "There are no jobs that Americans

 

>>>>> will not do.

 

>>>>

 

>>>> Yes, there are.

 

>>>>

 

>>>>> There are jobs Americans

 

>>>>> will not be hired for because an

 

>>>>> illegal alien has taken it."

 

>>>>

 

>>>> You drank the right wing wacko kool aide.

 

>>>>

 

>>>>> "Illegal Alien = Job Thief"

 

>>>>>

 

>>>>> http://www.bobhatch.com

 

>>>>> http://www.tdsrvresort.com

 

>>>>> http://www.keepazsafe.com/

 

>>>>

 

>>>> There's no such thing as an "illegal alien". There are illegal

 

>>>> migrants. I'd love to see you after a day of strawberry picking,

 

>>>> although you probably would give up after an hour.

 

>>>>

 

>>>

 

>>> The first idiot I've ever seen respond to nothing but the sig...hahaha

 

>>>

 

>>

 

>> You're not the first idiot who never posts anything that isn't

 

>> flippantly insulting.

 

>>

 

>

 

> Shut up, amigo.

 

>

 

 

 

No somos amigos pero tu si eres un gilipollas.

 

 

 

--

 

Alias

On 07/16/2010 06:05 PM, Death wrote:

 

>

 

> "Bill Yanaire, ESQ" wrote in message

 

> news:4c407fa9$1@news.x-privat.org...

 

>>

 

>>

 

>> "Don" wrote in message

 

>> news:FbidnXgM8MWM293RnZ2dnUVZ_gKdnZ2d@giganews.com...

 

>>>

 

>>> "Kenny" wrote in message

 

>>> news:wP2dnUUb3ZLEnd3RnZ2dnUVZ8m-dnZ2d@brightview.com...

 

>>>> New PC arriving Monday with 1 TB HDD.

 

>>>> I like as much as possible to keep OS and files separate, also an

 

>>>> image of C: on a separate partition or drive.

 

>>>> When installing Win 7 from DVD is it easy to set partition sizes

 

>>>> there or should I complete the install then use partitioning

 

>>>> software, probably Paragon?

 

>>>> How much space should I allocate for OS & apps?

 

>>>> With XP I used a 30GB partition and had space to spare, will I need

 

>>>> more for Win 7?

 

>>>> Replies appreciated.

 

>>>>

 

>>>> --

 

>>>>

 

>>>> Kenny Cargill

 

>>>>

 

>>>

 

>>> I have a 100gb partition for my Win7 install, which I am finding is

 

>>> really way more than enough.

 

>>> My Win7 64 bit install uses around 25 gb, however I do keep my

 

>>> documents and pictures on a separate partition , and most of my

 

>>> applications on a separate partition as well.

 

>>> 50gb would probably be a good starting point, maybe a little more if

 

>>> your going to keep your document folders and apps on the system

 

>>> partition as well.

 

>>>

 

>>> As far as partitioning, I myself find it easiest to just go ahead and

 

>>> partition my OS partition during the Windows 7 install, then I

 

>>> partition the rest after the install is completed through disk

 

>>> management in Windows 7.

 

>>>

 

>>>

 

>> I go one better than that.

 

>>

 

>> I install the operating system and applications on the C: drive.

 

>>

 

>> I then have another drive (D:) which I use to store my data and

 

>> pictures/video files.

 

>>

 

>> If C: drive crashes or I need to do a reinstall of the OS, I just wipe

 

>> out the drive without worrying about my data because it's on another

 

>> drive.

 

>>

 

>> By the way, I have an external drive in a cradle (USB) and then copy

 

>> the data over to it so I have a backup in case the D: drive crashes!

 

>>

 

>>

 

>>

 

>

 

> That's because you've been using a computer long enough to know you only

 

> need data backups.

 

 

 

You like reinstalling programs?

 

 

> These silly young people feel a need to back up the entire OS.

 

 

 

So they don't have to reinstall programs, of course!

 

 

> They don't understand the concept of user data.

 

> Just back up every friggen thing under the sun in one fell swoop.

 

>

 

> But, PC manufacturers share the blame, as they don't come with OS disk

 

> anymore, unless you ask(some still don't, ask or not).

 

>

 

 

 

You're an idiot who obviously knows nothing about backing up a computer.

 

 

 

--

 

Alias

"Alias" wrote in message

 

news:i1q18d$o51$2@news.eternal-september.org...

 

> On 07/16/2010 06:20 PM, Death wrote:

 

>>

 

>> "Alias" wrote in message

 

>> news:i1q0r3$l5d$2@news.eternal-september.org...

 

>>> On 7/16/2010 6:17 PM, Death wrote:

 

>>>>

 

>>>> "Alias" wrote in message

 

>>>> news:i1q0g3$j36$1@news.eternal-september.org...

 

>>>>> On 7/16/2010 6:09 PM, Bob Hatch wrote:

 

>>>>>> "There are no jobs that Americans

 

>>>>>> will not do.

 

>>>>>

 

>>>>> Yes, there are.

 

>>>>>

 

>>>>>> There are jobs Americans

 

>>>>>> will not be hired for because an

 

>>>>>> illegal alien has taken it."

 

>>>>>

 

>>>>> You drank the right wing wacko kool aide.

 

>>>>>

 

>>>>>> "Illegal Alien = Job Thief"

 

>>>>>>

 

>>>>>> http://www.bobhatch.com

 

>>>>>> http://www.tdsrvresort.com

 

>>>>>> http://www.keepazsafe.com/

 

>>>>>

 

>>>>> There's no such thing as an "illegal alien". There are illegal

 

>>>>> migrants. I'd love to see you after a day of strawberry picking,

 

>>>>> although you probably would give up after an hour.

 

>>>>>

 

>>>>

 

>>>> The first idiot I've ever seen respond to nothing but the sig...hahaha

 

>>>>

 

>>>

 

>>> You're not the first idiot who never posts anything that isn't

 

>>> flippantly insulting.

 

>>>

 

>>

 

>> Shut up, amigo.

 

>>

 

>

 

> No somos amigos pero tu si eres un gilipollas.

 

>

 

 

 

Yes, we are...no I'm not.

 

 

 

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Mors venit velociter quae neminem veretur.

"Alias" wrote in message

 

news:i1q1b2$o51$3@news.eternal-september.org...

 

> On 07/16/2010 06:05 PM, Death wrote:

 

>>

 

>> "Bill Yanaire, ESQ" wrote in message

 

>> news:4c407fa9$1@news.x-privat.org...

 

>>>

 

>>>

 

>>> "Don" wrote in message

 

>>> news:FbidnXgM8MWM293RnZ2dnUVZ_gKdnZ2d@giganews.com...

 

>>>>

 

>>>> "Kenny" wrote in message

 

>>>> news:wP2dnUUb3ZLEnd3RnZ2dnUVZ8m-dnZ2d@brightview.com...

 

>>>>> New PC arriving Monday with 1 TB HDD.

 

>>>>> I like as much as possible to keep OS and files separate, also an

 

>>>>> image of C: on a separate partition or drive.

 

>>>>> When installing Win 7 from DVD is it easy to set partition sizes

 

>>>>> there or should I complete the install then use partitioning

 

>>>>> software, probably Paragon?

 

>>>>> How much space should I allocate for OS & apps?

 

>>>>> With XP I used a 30GB partition and had space to spare, will I need

 

>>>>> more for Win 7?

 

>>>>> Replies appreciated.

 

>>>>>

 

>>>>> --

 

>>>>>

 

>>>>> Kenny Cargill

 

>>>>>

 

>>>>

 

>>>> I have a 100gb partition for my Win7 install, which I am finding is

 

>>>> really way more than enough.

 

>>>> My Win7 64 bit install uses around 25 gb, however I do keep my

 

>>>> documents and pictures on a separate partition , and most of my

 

>>>> applications on a separate partition as well.

 

>>>> 50gb would probably be a good starting point, maybe a little more if

 

>>>> your going to keep your document folders and apps on the system

 

>>>> partition as well.

 

>>>>

 

>>>> As far as partitioning, I myself find it easiest to just go ahead and

 

>>>> partition my OS partition during the Windows 7 install, then I

 

>>>> partition the rest after the install is completed through disk

 

>>>> management in Windows 7.

 

>>>>

 

>>>>

 

>>> I go one better than that.

 

>>>

 

>>> I install the operating system and applications on the C: drive.

 

>>>

 

>>> I then have another drive (D:) which I use to store my data and

 

>>> pictures/video files.

 

>>>

 

>>> If C: drive crashes or I need to do a reinstall of the OS, I just wipe

 

>>> out the drive without worrying about my data because it's on another

 

>>> drive.

 

>>>

 

>>> By the way, I have an external drive in a cradle (USB) and then copy

 

>>> the data over to it so I have a backup in case the D: drive crashes!

 

>>>

 

>>>

 

>>>

 

>>

 

>> That's because you've been using a computer long enough to know you only

 

>> need data backups.

 

>

 

> You like reinstalling programs?

 

>

 

>> These silly young people feel a need to back up the entire OS.

 

>

 

> So they don't have to reinstall programs, of course!

 

>

 

>> They don't understand the concept of user data.

 

>> Just back up every friggen thing under the sun in one fell swoop.

 

>>

 

>> But, PC manufacturers share the blame, as they don't come with OS disk

 

>> anymore, unless you ask(some still don't, ask or not).

 

>>

 

>

 

> You're an idiot who obviously knows nothing about backing up a computer.

 

>

 

> --

 

> Alias

 

 

 

You should go play in the Ubuntu forums. This forum is way over your head.

 

You can hardly use Windows anyway.

On 7/16/2010 6:42 PM, Bill Yanaire, ESQ wrote:

 

>

 

>

 

> "Alias" wrote in message

 

> news:i1q1b2$o51$3@news.eternal-september.org...

 

>> On 07/16/2010 06:05 PM, Death wrote:

 

>>>

 

>>> "Bill Yanaire, ESQ" wrote in message

 

>>> news:4c407fa9$1@news.x-privat.org...

 

>>>>

 

>>>>

 

>>>> "Don" wrote in message

 

>>>> news:FbidnXgM8MWM293RnZ2dnUVZ_gKdnZ2d@giganews.com...

 

>>>>>

 

>>>>> "Kenny" wrote in message

 

>>>>> news:wP2dnUUb3ZLEnd3RnZ2dnUVZ8m-dnZ2d@brightview.com...

 

>>>>>> New PC arriving Monday with 1 TB HDD.

 

>>>>>> I like as much as possible to keep OS and files separate, also an

 

>>>>>> image of C: on a separate partition or drive.

 

>>>>>> When installing Win 7 from DVD is it easy to set partition sizes

 

>>>>>> there or should I complete the install then use partitioning

 

>>>>>> software, probably Paragon?

 

>>>>>> How much space should I allocate for OS & apps?

 

>>>>>> With XP I used a 30GB partition and had space to spare, will I need

 

>>>>>> more for Win 7?

 

>>>>>> Replies appreciated.

 

>>>>>>

 

>>>>>> --

 

>>>>>>

 

>>>>>> Kenny Cargill

 

>>>>>>

 

>>>>>

 

>>>>> I have a 100gb partition for my Win7 install, which I am finding is

 

>>>>> really way more than enough.

 

>>>>> My Win7 64 bit install uses around 25 gb, however I do keep my

 

>>>>> documents and pictures on a separate partition , and most of my

 

>>>>> applications on a separate partition as well.

 

>>>>> 50gb would probably be a good starting point, maybe a little more if

 

>>>>> your going to keep your document folders and apps on the system

 

>>>>> partition as well.

 

>>>>>

 

>>>>> As far as partitioning, I myself find it easiest to just go ahead and

 

>>>>> partition my OS partition during the Windows 7 install, then I

 

>>>>> partition the rest after the install is completed through disk

 

>>>>> management in Windows 7.

 

>>>>>

 

>>>>>

 

>>>> I go one better than that.

 

>>>>

 

>>>> I install the operating system and applications on the C: drive.

 

>>>>

 

>>>> I then have another drive (D:) which I use to store my data and

 

>>>> pictures/video files.

 

>>>>

 

>>>> If C: drive crashes or I need to do a reinstall of the OS, I just wipe

 

>>>> out the drive without worrying about my data because it's on another

 

>>>> drive.

 

>>>>

 

>>>> By the way, I have an external drive in a cradle (USB) and then copy

 

>>>> the data over to it so I have a backup in case the D: drive crashes!

 

>>>>

 

>>>>

 

>>>>

 

>>>

 

>>> That's because you've been using a computer long enough to know you only

 

>>> need data backups.

 

>>

 

>> You like reinstalling programs?

 

>>

 

>>> These silly young people feel a need to back up the entire OS.

 

>>

 

>> So they don't have to reinstall programs, of course!

 

>>

 

>>> They don't understand the concept of user data.

 

>>> Just back up every friggen thing under the sun in one fell swoop.

 

>>>

 

>>> But, PC manufacturers share the blame, as they don't come with OS disk

 

>>> anymore, unless you ask(some still don't, ask or not).

 

>>>

 

>>

 

>> You're an idiot who obviously knows nothing about backing up a computer.

 

>>

 

>> --

 

>> Alias

 

>

 

> You should go play in the Ubuntu forums. This forum is way over your

 

> head. You can hardly use Windows anyway.

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

 

 

When out gunned and out of ammo, this is the Nymshifter's standard

 

reply. It's getting boring shooting fish in a barrel.

 

 

 

--

 

Alias

alias is a bigot!

 

On 7/16/2010 9:13 AM, Alias wrote:

 

> On 7/16/2010 6:09 PM, Bob Hatch wrote:

 

>> "There are no jobs that Americans

 

>> will not do.

 

>

 

> Yes, there are.

 

>

 

>> There are jobs Americans

 

>> will not be hired for because an

 

>> illegal alien has taken it."

 

>

 

> You drank the right wing wacko kool aide.

 

>

 

>> "Illegal Alien = Job Thief"

 

>>

 

>> http://www.bobhatch.com

 

>> http://www.tdsrvresort.com

 

>> http://www.keepazsafe.com/

 

>

 

> There's no such thing as an "illegal alien". There are illegal migrants.

 

> I'd love to see you after a day of strawberry picking, although you

 

> probably would give up after an hour.

 

>

 

You're stupid and a fucking bigot. If you saw photos of California's

 

Central Valley at harvest time, taken during the 50's, you see "white

 

guys" working the fields, hand picking the crops. They were earning

 

money to help pay for their College education.

 

But that all changed in the late 50's when farmers discovered that they

 

could hire Mexican's at a far cheaper hourly rate to do the same work.

 

So when the "white guys" showed up one year, there were no jobs, in the

 

fields, to be had.

 

You're bigoted statements are noted and you continue to show just how

 

little education or understanding you have about the World.

 

BTW, FYI, the World in not flat!

 

Oops!...LOL!

alias is a bigot!

 

On 7/16/2010 6:45 PM, Frank wrote:

 

> On 7/16/2010 9:13 AM, Alias wrote:

 

>> On 7/16/2010 6:09 PM, Bob Hatch wrote:

 

>>> "There are no jobs that Americans

 

>>> will not do.

 

>>

 

>> Yes, there are.

 

>>

 

>>> There are jobs Americans

 

>>> will not be hired for because an

 

>>> illegal alien has taken it."

 

>>

 

>> You drank the right wing wacko kool aide.

 

>>

 

>>> "Illegal Alien = Job Thief"

 

>>>

 

>>> http://www.bobhatch.com

 

>>> http://www.tdsrvresort.com

 

>>> http://www.keepazsafe.com/

 

>>

 

>> There's no such thing as an "illegal alien". There are illegal migrants.

 

>> I'd love to see you after a day of strawberry picking, although you

 

>> probably would give up after an hour.

 

>>

 

> You're stupid and a fucking bigot. If you saw photos of California's

 

> Central Valley at harvest time, taken during the 50's, you see "white

 

> guys" working the fields, hand picking the crops. They were earning

 

> money to help pay for their College education.

 

> But that all changed in the late 50's when farmers discovered that they

 

> could hire Mexican's at a far cheaper hourly rate to do the same work.

 

> So when the "white guys" showed up one year, there were no jobs, in the

 

> fields, to be had.

 

> You're bigoted statements are noted and you continue to show just how

 

> little education or understanding you have about the World.

 

> BTW, FYI, the World in not flat!

 

> Oops!...LOL!

 

 

 

Sorry, chum, but you are wrong, again, but what else is new?

 

 

 

--

 

Alias

Alias wrote:

 

 

> On 07/16/2010 06:05 PM, Death wrote:

 

>>

 

 

 

SNIP

 

 

>>

 

>> That's because you've been using a computer long enough to know you only

 

>> need data backups.

 

>

 

> You like reinstalling programs?

 

>

 

 

 

It don't bother me, as it is a rare event when a total reinstall is

 

necessary.

 

I spend less time doing it my way then you do backing up 200 GB of

 

program data weekly,monthly, whenever the fit strikes you.

 

n00bs are usually so disorganized that the "backup everything" is the

 

best method for the majority of the population

 

 

>> These silly young people feel a need to back up the entire OS.

 

>

 

> So they don't have to reinstall programs, of course!

 

>

 

 

 

If, the backup was done right.

 

noobs usually fuck that up too, so they are left doing it my way anyway.

 

My way is the only fool proof way.

 

Fool.

 

I can quickly make redundant data backups.

 

You need to clone the entire drive multiple times, and hopefully not on

 

the same media(hint for ya there, n00b)

 

 

>> They don't understand the concept of user data.

 

>> Just back up every friggen thing under the sun in one fell swoop.

 

>>

 

>> But, PC manufacturers share the blame, as they don't come with OS disk

 

>> anymore, unless you ask(some still don't, ask or not).

 

>>

 

>

 

> You're an idiot who obviously knows nothing about backing up a computer.

 

>

 

 

 

Because, moron, the computer don't need backing up.

 

Just the fucking user data.

 

Your way ain't smarter, just the opposite.

 

It's for dumbass n00bs.

 

 

 

--

 

Vita brevis breviter in brevi finietur,

 

Mors venit velociter quae neminem veretur.

On 7/16/2010 7:01 PM, Death wrote:

 

> Alias wrote:

 

>

 

>> On 07/16/2010 06:05 PM, Death wrote:

 

>>>

 

>

 

> SNIP

 

>

 

>>>

 

>>> That's because you've been using a computer long enough to know you only

 

>>> need data backups.

 

>>

 

>> You like reinstalling programs?

 

>>

 

>

 

> It don't bother me, as it is a rare event when a total reinstall is

 

> necessary.

 

 

 

Yeah, hard drives never fail, right?

 

 

> I spend less time doing it my way then you do backing up 200 GB of

 

> program data weekly,monthly, whenever the fit strikes you.

 

 

 

Huh? When I do an image, I don't back up my data with it. That's in a

 

separate back up.

 

 

> n00bs are usually so disorganized that the "backup everything" is the

 

> best method for the majority of the population

 

 

 

Back up is a computer user's best friend.

 

 

>

 

>>> These silly young people feel a need to back up the entire OS.

 

>>

 

>> So they don't have to reinstall programs, of course!

 

>>

 

>

 

> If, the backup was done right.

 

> noobs usually fuck that up too, so they are left doing it my way anyway.

 

> My way is the only fool proof way.

 

> Fool.

 

> I can quickly make redundant data backups.

 

> You need to clone the entire drive multiple times, and hopefully not on

 

> the same media(hint for ya there, n00b)

 

>

 

>>> They don't understand the concept of user data.

 

>>> Just back up every friggen thing under the sun in one fell swoop.

 

>>>

 

>>> But, PC manufacturers share the blame, as they don't come with OS disk

 

>>> anymore, unless you ask(some still don't, ask or not).

 

>>>

 

>>

 

>> You're an idiot who obviously knows nothing about backing up a computer.

 

>>

 

>

 

> Because, moron, the computer don't need backing up.

 

> Just the fucking user data.

 

> Your way ain't smarter, just the opposite.

 

> It's for dumbass n00bs.

 

>

 

 

 

Yawn.

 

 

 

--

 

Alias

alias is a bigot!

 

Alias wrote:

 

 

> On 7/16/2010 6:45 PM, Frank wrote:

 

>> On 7/16/2010 9:13 AM, Alias wrote:

 

>>> On 7/16/2010 6:09 PM, Bob Hatch wrote:

 

>>>> "There are no jobs that Americans

 

>>>> will not do.

 

>>>

 

>>> Yes, there are.

 

>>>

 

>>>> There are jobs Americans

 

>>>> will not be hired for because an

 

>>>> illegal alien has taken it."

 

>>>

 

>>> You drank the right wing wacko kool aide.

 

>>>

 

>>>> "Illegal Alien = Job Thief"

 

>>>>

 

>>>> http://www.bobhatch.com

 

>>>> http://www.tdsrvresort.com

 

>>>> http://www.keepazsafe.com/

 

>>>

 

>>> There's no such thing as an "illegal alien". There are illegal migrants.

 

>>> I'd love to see you after a day of strawberry picking, although you

 

>>> probably would give up after an hour.

 

>>>

 

>> You're stupid and a fucking bigot. If you saw photos of California's

 

>> Central Valley at harvest time, taken during the 50's, you see "white

 

>> guys" working the fields, hand picking the crops. They were earning

 

>> money to help pay for their College education.

 

>> But that all changed in the late 50's when farmers discovered that they

 

>> could hire Mexican's at a far cheaper hourly rate to do the same work.

 

>> So when the "white guys" showed up one year, there were no jobs, in the

 

>> fields, to be had.

 

>> You're bigoted statements are noted and you continue to show just how

 

>> little education or understanding you have about the World.

 

>> BTW, FYI, the World in not flat!

 

>> Oops!...LOL!

 

>

 

> Sorry, chum, but you are wrong, again, but what else is new?

 

>

 

 

 

LOL.

 

What part of hiring amigos as cheap, throw away labor don't you get?

 

 

 

It's also not smart, as they don't spend the money here anyway, but send

 

it back home to their families and to pay off the fees they incurred

 

being smuggled here.

 

 

 

Death wishes his truck could traverse the Rio Grande.

 

He'd make a killing.

 

Bet 30 of 'em could be stuffed in the bed of the truck.

 

 

 

--

 

Vita brevis breviter in brevi finietur,

 

Mors venit velociter quae neminem veretur.