64 bit question

June 2, 201014 yr

Bill Yanaire, ESQ wrote:

>

> "Alias" wrote in message

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>> Man-wai Chang to The Door (33600bps) wrote:

>>>> You need 64 bit Flash. Try looking here:

>>>>

>>>> http://www.adobe.com/software/flash/about/ to see what you have, if

>>>> anything, installed.

>>>

>>> Only 64-bit browsers need 64-bit plugins! :)

>>>

>>

>> No shit.

>>

> At least he isn't using that SHITTY Ubuntu

Your uninformed opinion.

> that nobody wants!

An outright lie.

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Hi, Bob.

See this Adobe TechNote for the real reason we can't run Flash in 64-bit IE8

(and other 64-bit browsers):

http://kb2.adobe.com/cps/837/cpsid_83715.html

The key line there is:

"Adobe Flash Player is not supported for playback in 64-bit browsers. Flash

Player will, however, run in a 32-bit browser, running on a 64-bit operating

system."

So it is not Win7 that is the problem it is not 64-bit per se (many (most?)

other products now run fine in 64-bit Win7. But Adobe Flash is still stuck

in the 20th Century, it seems.

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Hi, Bob.

See this Adobe TechNote for the real reason we can't run Flash in 64-bit IE8

(and other 64-bit browsers):

http://kb2.adobe.com/cps/837/cpsid_83715.html

The key line there is:

"Adobe Flash Player is not supported for playback in 64-bit browsers. Flash

Player will, however, run in a 32-bit browser, running on a 64-bit operating

system."

So it is not Win7 that is the problem it is not 64-bit per se (many (most?)

other products now run fine in 64-bit Win7. But Adobe Flash is still stuck

in the 20th Century, it seems.

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"BH2" wrote in message

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> Thanks again Guys,

> Installed a 32 bit browser, it works fine

> Regards

> Bob

>

> "Dave "Crash" Dummy" wrote in message

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>> BH2 wrote:

>>> Hi Guys, I have installed windows 7 64 bit edition, and am unable to

>>> watch videos on you tube etc, Windows said I needed to install a plug

>>> in which I did but still does not work. Any ideas on how to correct

>>> this problem. Thanks and Regards Bob

>>

>> 64 bit Windows 7 has both 64 bit and 32 bit Internet Explorer. The 32

>> bit version should be the one on the desktop. If not, both are on the

>> Start>Programs menu. Flash is only available for the 32 bit build.

>> --

>> Crash

>>

>> English is not my native tongue I'm an American.

>

I have read this thread as it exists right now. All of the responses are

valid and should guide you to an acceptable solution No, you didn't make a

mistake by installing the 64 bit OS. It's just that Adobe for some reason

hasn't come up with a 64 bit version of their Flash Player plug in. By

installing a 32 bit browser, what did you mean? If you don't mind my

asking, what browser did you install?

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"BH2" wrote in message

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> Thanks again Guys,

> Installed a 32 bit browser, it works fine

> Regards

> Bob

>

> "Dave "Crash" Dummy" wrote in message

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>> BH2 wrote:

>>> Hi Guys, I have installed windows 7 64 bit edition, and am unable to

>>> watch videos on you tube etc, Windows said I needed to install a plug

>>> in which I did but still does not work. Any ideas on how to correct

>>> this problem. Thanks and Regards Bob

>>

>> 64 bit Windows 7 has both 64 bit and 32 bit Internet Explorer. The 32

>> bit version should be the one on the desktop. If not, both are on the

>> Start>Programs menu. Flash is only available for the 32 bit build.

>> --

>> Crash

>>

>> English is not my native tongue I'm an American.

>

I have read this thread as it exists right now. All of the responses are

valid and should guide you to an acceptable solution No, you didn't make a

mistake by installing the 64 bit OS. It's just that Adobe for some reason

hasn't come up with a 64 bit version of their Flash Player plug in. By

installing a 32 bit browser, what did you mean? If you don't mind my

asking, what browser did you install?

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Hi, Bob.

> Installed a 32 bit browser,

WHY? As several of us told you, 32-bit IE8 is already embedded in every

copy of Win7! And 64-bit Win7 has BOTH 32-bit and 64-bit versions of IE8.

Just click and run the one you want.

In fact, if 64-bit IE8 runs BY DEFAULT on your Win7, then somebody (your

vendor?) must have changed the default.

RC

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"BH2" wrote in message

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> Thanks again Guys,

> Installed a 32 bit browser, it works fine

> Regards

> Bob

>

> "Dave "Crash" Dummy" wrote in message

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>> BH2 wrote:

>>> Hi Guys, I have installed windows 7 64 bit edition, and am unable to

>>> watch videos on you tube etc, Windows said I needed to install a plug

>>> in which I did but still does not work. Any ideas on how to correct

>>> this problem. Thanks and Regards Bob

>>

>> 64 bit Windows 7 has both 64 bit and 32 bit Internet Explorer. The 32

>> bit version should be the one on the desktop. If not, both are on the

>> Start>Programs menu. Flash is only available for the 32 bit build.

>> --

>> Crash

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Hi, Bob.

> Installed a 32 bit browser,

WHY? As several of us told you, 32-bit IE8 is already embedded in every

copy of Win7! And 64-bit Win7 has BOTH 32-bit and 64-bit versions of IE8.

Just click and run the one you want.

In fact, if 64-bit IE8 runs BY DEFAULT on your Win7, then somebody (your

vendor?) must have changed the default.

RC

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San Marcos, TX

rc@grandecom.net

Microsoft Windows MVP

Windows Live Mail 2009 (14.0.8089.0726) in Win7 Ultimate x64)

"BH2" wrote in message

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> Thanks again Guys,

> Installed a 32 bit browser, it works fine

> Regards

> Bob

>

> "Dave "Crash" Dummy" wrote in message

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>> BH2 wrote:

>>> Hi Guys, I have installed windows 7 64 bit edition, and am unable to

>>> watch videos on you tube etc, Windows said I needed to install a plug

>>> in which I did but still does not work. Any ideas on how to correct

>>> this problem. Thanks and Regards Bob

>>

>> 64 bit Windows 7 has both 64 bit and 32 bit Internet Explorer. The 32

>> bit version should be the one on the desktop. If not, both are on the

>> Start>Programs menu. Flash is only available for the 32 bit build.

>> --

>> Crash

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"Alias" wrote in message

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> Bill Yanaire, ESQ wrote:

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>> "Alias" wrote in message

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>>> Man-wai Chang to The Door (33600bps) wrote:

>>>>> You need 64 bit Flash. Try looking here:

>>>>>

>>>>> http://www.adobe.com/software/flash/about/ to see what you have, if

>>>>> anything, installed.

>>>>

>>>> Only 64-bit browsers need 64-bit plugins! :)

>>>>

>>>

>>> No shit.

>>>

>> At least he isn't using that SHITTY Ubuntu

>

> Your uninformed opinion.

>

>> that nobody wants!

>

> An outright lie.

>

Actually, I re-read your comments. Let me correct it: At least he isn't

using that SHITTY Ubuntu that 99.99999999999% of the people who try Ubuntu

reject it as the garbage it is.

Is that better?

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> Bill Yanaire, ESQ wrote:

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>> "Alias" wrote in message

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>>> Man-wai Chang to The Door (33600bps) wrote:

>>>>> You need 64 bit Flash. Try looking here:

>>>>>

>>>>> http://www.adobe.com/software/flash/about/ to see what you have, if

>>>>> anything, installed.

>>>>

>>>> Only 64-bit browsers need 64-bit plugins! :)

>>>>

>>>

>>> No shit.

>>>

>> At least he isn't using that SHITTY Ubuntu

>

> Your uninformed opinion.

>

>> that nobody wants!

>

> An outright lie.

>

Actually, I re-read your comments. Let me correct it: At least he isn't

using that SHITTY Ubuntu that 99.99999999999% of the people who try Ubuntu

reject it as the garbage it is.

Is that better?

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On Wed, 2 Jun 2010 19:00:37 +0800, "BH2"

wrote:

> Thanks Guys,

> Maybe I jumped the gun and should have stayed with a 32 bit system ?

No, simply run the 32-bit version of IE8 instead of the 64-bit

version, as Dick Mahar said.

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> > "BH2" wrote in message

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> >> Hi Guys,

> >> I have installed windows 7 64 bit edition, and am unable to watch videos

> >> on you tube etc, Windows said I needed to install a plug in which I did

> >> but still does not work. Any ideas on how to correct this problem.

> >> Thanks and Regards

> >> Bob

> >

> > There is no 64 bit Flash player at present. You can use Internet Explorer

> > 32 bit with adobe flash player, however.

Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP (Windows Desktop Experience) since 2003

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On Wed, 2 Jun 2010 19:00:37 +0800, "BH2"

wrote:

> Thanks Guys,

> Maybe I jumped the gun and should have stayed with a 32 bit system ?

No, simply run the 32-bit version of IE8 instead of the 64-bit

version, as Dick Mahar said.

> "Dick Mahar" wrote in message

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> >

> > "BH2" wrote in message

> > news:pIGdnUt1uZ1gt5vRnZ2dnUVZ_uWdnZ2d@westnet.com.au...

> >> Hi Guys,

> >> I have installed windows 7 64 bit edition, and am unable to watch videos

> >> on you tube etc, Windows said I needed to install a plug in which I did

> >> but still does not work. Any ideas on how to correct this problem.

> >> Thanks and Regards

> >> Bob

> >

> > There is no 64 bit Flash player at present. You can use Internet Explorer

> > 32 bit with adobe flash player, however.

Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP (Windows Desktop Experience) since 2003

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Bill Yanaire, ESQ wrote:

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> "Alias" wrote in message

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>> Bill Yanaire, ESQ wrote:

>>>

>>> "Alias" wrote in message

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>>>> Man-wai Chang to The Door (33600bps) wrote:

>>>>>> You need 64 bit Flash. Try looking here:

>>>>>>

>>>>>> http://www.adobe.com/software/flash/about/ to see what you have, if

>>>>>> anything, installed.

>>>>>

>>>>> Only 64-bit browsers need 64-bit plugins! :)

>>>>>

>>>>

>>>> No shit.

>>>>

>>> At least he isn't using that SHITTY Ubuntu

>>

>> Your uninformed opinion.

>>

>>> that nobody wants!

>>

>> An outright lie.

>>

> Actually, I re-read your comments. Let me correct it: At least he isn't

> using that SHITTY Ubuntu that 99.99999999999% of the people who try

> Ubuntu reject it as the garbage it is.

>

> Is that better?

No, it's just another one of your lies because your livelihood depends

on Windows.

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Bill Yanaire, ESQ wrote:

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> "Alias" wrote in message

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>> Bill Yanaire, ESQ wrote:

>>>

>>> "Alias" wrote in message

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>>>> Man-wai Chang to The Door (33600bps) wrote:

>>>>>> You need 64 bit Flash. Try looking here:

>>>>>>

>>>>>> http://www.adobe.com/software/flash/about/ to see what you have, if

>>>>>> anything, installed.

>>>>>

>>>>> Only 64-bit browsers need 64-bit plugins! :)

>>>>>

>>>>

>>>> No shit.

>>>>

>>> At least he isn't using that SHITTY Ubuntu

>>

>> Your uninformed opinion.

>>

>>> that nobody wants!

>>

>> An outright lie.

>>

> Actually, I re-read your comments. Let me correct it: At least he isn't

> using that SHITTY Ubuntu that 99.99999999999% of the people who try

> Ubuntu reject it as the garbage it is.

>

> Is that better?

No, it's just another one of your lies because your livelihood depends

on Windows.

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> Bill Yanaire, ESQ wrote:

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>> "Alias" wrote in message

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>>> Bill Yanaire, ESQ wrote:

>>>>

>>>> "Alias" wrote in message

>>>> news:hu5g7j$dp8$1@news.eternal-september.org...

>>>>> Man-wai Chang to The Door (33600bps) wrote:

>>>>>>> You need 64 bit Flash. Try looking here:

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> http://www.adobe.com/software/flash/about/ to see what you have, if

>>>>>>> anything, installed.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Only 64-bit browsers need 64-bit plugins! :)

>>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>> No shit.

>>>>>

>>>> At least he isn't using that SHITTY Ubuntu

>>>

>>> Your uninformed opinion.

>>>

>>>> that nobody wants!

>>>

>>> An outright lie.

>>>

>> Actually, I re-read your comments. Let me correct it: At least he isn't

>> using that SHITTY Ubuntu that 99.99999999999% of the people who try

>> Ubuntu reject it as the garbage it is.

>>

>> Is that better?

>

> No, it's just another one of your lies because your livelihood depends on

> Windows.

>

> --

> Alias

It's not a lie. Tell me then - Ubuntu and all the other Linux distros have

been FREE for years yet are on very few desktops. Why oh why didn't word

spread like wildfire and everyone install those distros on their PC's and

ditch Windows?

I'll tell you why: It's because those Linux distros are crap and everyone

knows it. Ooops.

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> Bill Yanaire, ESQ wrote:

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>> "Alias" wrote in message

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>>> Bill Yanaire, ESQ wrote:

>>>>

>>>> "Alias" wrote in message

>>>> news:hu5g7j$dp8$1@news.eternal-september.org...

>>>>> Man-wai Chang to The Door (33600bps) wrote:

>>>>>>> You need 64 bit Flash. Try looking here:

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> http://www.adobe.com/software/flash/about/ to see what you have, if

>>>>>>> anything, installed.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Only 64-bit browsers need 64-bit plugins! :)

>>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>> No shit.

>>>>>

>>>> At least he isn't using that SHITTY Ubuntu

>>>

>>> Your uninformed opinion.

>>>

>>>> that nobody wants!

>>>

>>> An outright lie.

>>>

>> Actually, I re-read your comments. Let me correct it: At least he isn't

>> using that SHITTY Ubuntu that 99.99999999999% of the people who try

>> Ubuntu reject it as the garbage it is.

>>

>> Is that better?

>

> No, it's just another one of your lies because your livelihood depends on

> Windows.

>

> --

> Alias

It's not a lie. Tell me then - Ubuntu and all the other Linux distros have

been FREE for years yet are on very few desktops. Why oh why didn't word

spread like wildfire and everyone install those distros on their PC's and

ditch Windows?

I'll tell you why: It's because those Linux distros are crap and everyone

knows it. Ooops.

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R. C. White wrote:

> Hi, Bob.

>

> See this Adobe TechNote for the real reason we can't run Flash in 64-bit

> IE8 (and other 64-bit browsers):

> http://kb2.adobe.com/cps/837/cpsid_83715.html

>

> The key line there is:

> "Adobe Flash Player is not supported for playback in 64-bit browsers.

> Flash Player will, however, run in a 32-bit browser, running on a 64-bit

> operating system."

>

> So it is not Win7 that is the problem it is not 64-bit per se (many

> (most?) other products now run fine in 64-bit Win7. But Adobe Flash is

> still stuck in the 20th Century, it seems.

> Our solution, for now, as others have said, is to run 32-bit IE8, which

> is included in Win7, as well as 64-bit IE8. You'll find the two

> versions here:

> 32-bit IE8: C:\Program Files (x86)\Internet Explorer\iexplore.exe

> 64-bit IE8: C:\Program Files\Internet Explorer\iexplore.exe

>

> The 32-bit version runs by default, but your Win7 may have been edited

> (intentionally or otherwise, by you or someone else) to default to the

> 64-bit version.

>

> I've changed my default to 64-bit IE8 (I don't know why) and often find

> myself looking at a YouTube or other page that offers to "update" the

> Flash Player for me - but that's a useless exercise, as you've seen.

> When that happens, I just highlight and Copy the URL, then start 32-bit

> IE8 and Paste in the URL and hit Enter and watch the video. It's a

> nuisance, but it takes less than a minute.

>

> And, by the way, Adobe doesn't even hint at this on their Adobe Flash

> Player home page:

> http://www.adobe.com/software/flash/about/

Why have you made the 64 bit IE8 your default? What is the advantage?

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R. C. White wrote:

> Hi, Bob.

>

> See this Adobe TechNote for the real reason we can't run Flash in 64-bit

> IE8 (and other 64-bit browsers):

> http://kb2.adobe.com/cps/837/cpsid_83715.html

>

> The key line there is:

> "Adobe Flash Player is not supported for playback in 64-bit browsers.

> Flash Player will, however, run in a 32-bit browser, running on a 64-bit

> operating system."

>

> So it is not Win7 that is the problem it is not 64-bit per se (many

> (most?) other products now run fine in 64-bit Win7. But Adobe Flash is

> still stuck in the 20th Century, it seems.

> Our solution, for now, as others have said, is to run 32-bit IE8, which

> is included in Win7, as well as 64-bit IE8. You'll find the two

> versions here:

> 32-bit IE8: C:\Program Files (x86)\Internet Explorer\iexplore.exe

> 64-bit IE8: C:\Program Files\Internet Explorer\iexplore.exe

>

> The 32-bit version runs by default, but your Win7 may have been edited

> (intentionally or otherwise, by you or someone else) to default to the

> 64-bit version.

>

> I've changed my default to 64-bit IE8 (I don't know why) and often find

> myself looking at a YouTube or other page that offers to "update" the

> Flash Player for me - but that's a useless exercise, as you've seen.

> When that happens, I just highlight and Copy the URL, then start 32-bit

> IE8 and Paste in the URL and hit Enter and watch the video. It's a

> nuisance, but it takes less than a minute.

>

> And, by the way, Adobe doesn't even hint at this on their Adobe Flash

> Player home page:

> http://www.adobe.com/software/flash/about/

Why have you made the 64 bit IE8 your default? What is the advantage?

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>> Bill Yanaire, ESQ wrote:

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>>>> Bill Yanaire, ESQ wrote:

>>>>>

>>>>> "Alias" wrote in message

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>>>>>> Man-wai Chang to The Door (33600bps) wrote:

>>>>>>>> You need 64 bit Flash. Try looking here:

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> http://www.adobe.com/software/flash/about/ to see what you have, if

>>>>>>>> anything, installed.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Only 64-bit browsers need 64-bit plugins! :)

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>> No shit.

>>>>>>

>>>>> At least he isn't using that SHITTY Ubuntu

>>>>

>>>> Your uninformed opinion.

>>>>

>>>>> that nobody wants!

>>>>

>>>> An outright lie.

>>>>

>>> Actually, I re-read your comments. Let me correct it: At least he isn't

>>> using that SHITTY Ubuntu that 99.99999999999% of the people who try

>>> Ubuntu reject it as the garbage it is.

>>>

>>> Is that better?

>>

>> No, it's just another one of your lies because your livelihood depends

>> on Windows.

>>

>> --

>> Alias

>

> It's not a lie. Tell me then - Ubuntu and all the other Linux distros

> have been FREE for years yet are on very few desktops.

Wrong, try over 12 million just with Ubuntu.

> Why oh why didn't

> word spread like wildfire and everyone install those distros on their

> PC's and ditch Windows?

>

> I'll tell you why: It's because those Linux distros are crap and

> everyone knows it. Ooops.

Nope, it's because of several things, none of which have *anything* to

do with the quality of Ubuntu. They are:

MS FUD that Linux is only for very savvy computer users, which, of

course, are all lies.

Most computers come preinstalled with Windows.

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Bill Yanaire, ESQ wrote:

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>> Bill Yanaire, ESQ wrote:

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>>> "Alias" wrote in message

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>>>> Bill Yanaire, ESQ wrote:

>>>>>

>>>>> "Alias" wrote in message

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>>>>>> Man-wai Chang to The Door (33600bps) wrote:

>>>>>>>> You need 64 bit Flash. Try looking here:

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> http://www.adobe.com/software/flash/about/ to see what you have, if

>>>>>>>> anything, installed.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Only 64-bit browsers need 64-bit plugins! :)

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>> No shit.

>>>>>>

>>>>> At least he isn't using that SHITTY Ubuntu

>>>>

>>>> Your uninformed opinion.

>>>>

>>>>> that nobody wants!

>>>>

>>>> An outright lie.

>>>>

>>> Actually, I re-read your comments. Let me correct it: At least he isn't

>>> using that SHITTY Ubuntu that 99.99999999999% of the people who try

>>> Ubuntu reject it as the garbage it is.

>>>

>>> Is that better?

>>

>> No, it's just another one of your lies because your livelihood depends

>> on Windows.

>>

>> --

>> Alias

>

> It's not a lie. Tell me then - Ubuntu and all the other Linux distros

> have been FREE for years yet are on very few desktops.

Wrong, try over 12 million just with Ubuntu.

> Why oh why didn't

> word spread like wildfire and everyone install those distros on their

> PC's and ditch Windows?

>

> I'll tell you why: It's because those Linux distros are crap and

> everyone knows it. Ooops.

Nope, it's because of several things, none of which have *anything* to

do with the quality of Ubuntu. They are:

MS FUD that Linux is only for very savvy computer users, which, of

course, are all lies.

Most computers come preinstalled with Windows.

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>>>>>>> Man-wai Chang to The Door (33600bps) wrote:

>>>>>>>>> You need 64 bit Flash. Try looking here:

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> http://www.adobe.com/software/flash/about/ to see what you have,

>>>>>>>>> if

>>>>>>>>> anything, installed.

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> Only 64-bit browsers need 64-bit plugins! :)

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> No shit.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>> At least he isn't using that SHITTY Ubuntu

>>>>>

>>>>> Your uninformed opinion.

>>>>>

>>>>>> that nobody wants!

>>>>>

>>>>> An outright lie.

>>>>>

>>>> Actually, I re-read your comments. Let me correct it: At least he isn't

>>>> using that SHITTY Ubuntu that 99.99999999999% of the people who try

>>>> Ubuntu reject it as the garbage it is.

>>>>

>>>> Is that better?

>>>

>>> No, it's just another one of your lies because your livelihood depends

>>> on Windows.

>>>

>>> --

>>> Alias

>>

>> It's not a lie. Tell me then - Ubuntu and all the other Linux distros

>> have been FREE for years yet are on very few desktops.

>

> Wrong, try over 12 million just with Ubuntu.

That is a number you pulled out of your ass. You have no way of knowing how

many unsuspecting idiots are using that SHITTY OS.

>

>> Why oh why didn't

>> word spread like wildfire and everyone install those distros on their

>> PC's and ditch Windows?

>>

>> I'll tell you why: It's because those Linux distros are crap and

>> everyone knows it. Ooops.

>

> Nope, it's because of several things, none of which have *anything* to do

> with the quality of Ubuntu. They are:

>

> MS FUD that Linux is only for very savvy computer users, which, of course,

> are all lies.

Linux is only for geeks not by anything MS says but by the product itself.

Oops.

> Most computers come preinstalled with Windows.

>

As they should.

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> Bill Yanaire, ESQ wrote:

>>

>> "Alias" wrote in message

>> news:hu5u9n$rg4$1@news.eternal-september.org...

>>> Bill Yanaire, ESQ wrote:

>>>>

>>>> "Alias" wrote in message

>>>> news:hu5q8m$at4$1@news.eternal-september.org...

>>>>> Bill Yanaire, ESQ wrote:

>>>>>>

>>>>>> "Alias" wrote in message

>>>>>> news:hu5g7j$dp8$1@news.eternal-september.org...

>>>>>>> Man-wai Chang to The Door (33600bps) wrote:

>>>>>>>>> You need 64 bit Flash. Try looking here:

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> http://www.adobe.com/software/flash/about/ to see what you have,

>>>>>>>>> if

>>>>>>>>> anything, installed.

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> Only 64-bit browsers need 64-bit plugins! :)

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> No shit.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>> At least he isn't using that SHITTY Ubuntu

>>>>>

>>>>> Your uninformed opinion.

>>>>>

>>>>>> that nobody wants!

>>>>>

>>>>> An outright lie.

>>>>>

>>>> Actually, I re-read your comments. Let me correct it: At least he isn't

>>>> using that SHITTY Ubuntu that 99.99999999999% of the people who try

>>>> Ubuntu reject it as the garbage it is.

>>>>

>>>> Is that better?

>>>

>>> No, it's just another one of your lies because your livelihood depends

>>> on Windows.

>>>

>>> --

>>> Alias

>>

>> It's not a lie. Tell me then - Ubuntu and all the other Linux distros

>> have been FREE for years yet are on very few desktops.

>

> Wrong, try over 12 million just with Ubuntu.

That is a number you pulled out of your ass. You have no way of knowing how

many unsuspecting idiots are using that SHITTY OS.

>

>> Why oh why didn't

>> word spread like wildfire and everyone install those distros on their

>> PC's and ditch Windows?

>>

>> I'll tell you why: It's because those Linux distros are crap and

>> everyone knows it. Ooops.

>

> Nope, it's because of several things, none of which have *anything* to do

> with the quality of Ubuntu. They are:

>

> MS FUD that Linux is only for very savvy computer users, which, of course,

> are all lies.

Linux is only for geeks not by anything MS says but by the product itself.

Oops.

> Most computers come preinstalled with Windows.

>

As they should.

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>

> "Alias" wrote in message

> news:hu607t$3pr$1@news.eternal-september.org...

>> Bill Yanaire, ESQ wrote:

>>>

>>> "Alias" wrote in message

>>> news:hu5u9n$rg4$1@news.eternal-september.org...

>>>> Bill Yanaire, ESQ wrote:

>>>>>

>>>>> "Alias" wrote in message

>>>>> news:hu5q8m$at4$1@news.eternal-september.org...

>>>>>> Bill Yanaire, ESQ wrote:

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> "Alias" wrote in message

>>>>>>> news:hu5g7j$dp8$1@news.eternal-september.org...

>>>>>>>> Man-wai Chang to The Door (33600bps) wrote:

>>>>>>>>>> You need 64 bit Flash. Try looking here:

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>> http://www.adobe.com/software/flash/about/ to see what you

>>>>>>>>>> have, if

>>>>>>>>>> anything, installed.

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> Only 64-bit browsers need 64-bit plugins! :)

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> No shit.

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> At least he isn't using that SHITTY Ubuntu

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Your uninformed opinion.

>>>>>>

>>>>>>> that nobody wants!

>>>>>>

>>>>>> An outright lie.

>>>>>>

>>>>> Actually, I re-read your comments. Let me correct it: At least he

>>>>> isn't

>>>>> using that SHITTY Ubuntu that 99.99999999999% of the people who try

>>>>> Ubuntu reject it as the garbage it is.

>>>>>

>>>>> Is that better?

>>>>

>>>> No, it's just another one of your lies because your livelihood depends

>>>> on Windows.

>>>>

>>>> --

>>>> Alias

>>>

>>> It's not a lie. Tell me then - Ubuntu and all the other Linux distros

>>> have been FREE for years yet are on very few desktops.

>>

>> Wrong, try over 12 million just with Ubuntu.

>

> That is a number you pulled out of your ass. You have no way of knowing

> how many unsuspecting idiots are using that SHITTY OS.

>

>>

>>> Why oh why didn't

>>> word spread like wildfire and everyone install those distros on their

>>> PC's and ditch Windows?

>>>

>>> I'll tell you why: It's because those Linux distros are crap and

>>> everyone knows it. Ooops.

>>

>> Nope, it's because of several things, none of which have *anything* to

>> do with the quality of Ubuntu. They are:

>>

>> MS FUD that Linux is only for very savvy computer users, which, of

>> course, are all lies.

>

> Linux is only for geeks not by anything MS says but by the product

> itself. Oops.

Why do you lie? Oh yeah, your livelihood depends on Windows. Happy last

century, schmuck.

>

>> Most computers come preinstalled with Windows.

>>

>

> As they should.

This is changing. I have yet to see an iPad with windows but they're

selling like iPhones and iPods. MS isn't even on the caboose of the

train but Linux Android is right up there biting Apple's toes.

Some reading for you:

http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9177553/RIP_PC

Windows won't go away but its importance will be severely reduced.

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>

> "Alias" wrote in message

> news:hu607t$3pr$1@news.eternal-september.org...

>> Bill Yanaire, ESQ wrote:

>>>

>>> "Alias" wrote in message

>>> news:hu5u9n$rg4$1@news.eternal-september.org...

>>>> Bill Yanaire, ESQ wrote:

>>>>>

>>>>> "Alias" wrote in message

>>>>> news:hu5q8m$at4$1@news.eternal-september.org...

>>>>>> Bill Yanaire, ESQ wrote:

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> "Alias" wrote in message

>>>>>>> news:hu5g7j$dp8$1@news.eternal-september.org...

>>>>>>>> Man-wai Chang to The Door (33600bps) wrote:

>>>>>>>>>> You need 64 bit Flash. Try looking here:

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>> http://www.adobe.com/software/flash/about/ to see what you

>>>>>>>>>> have, if

>>>>>>>>>> anything, installed.

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> Only 64-bit browsers need 64-bit plugins! :)

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> No shit.

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> At least he isn't using that SHITTY Ubuntu

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Your uninformed opinion.

>>>>>>

>>>>>>> that nobody wants!

>>>>>>

>>>>>> An outright lie.

>>>>>>

>>>>> Actually, I re-read your comments. Let me correct it: At least he

>>>>> isn't

>>>>> using that SHITTY Ubuntu that 99.99999999999% of the people who try

>>>>> Ubuntu reject it as the garbage it is.

>>>>>

>>>>> Is that better?

>>>>

>>>> No, it's just another one of your lies because your livelihood depends

>>>> on Windows.

>>>>

>>>> --

>>>> Alias

>>>

>>> It's not a lie. Tell me then - Ubuntu and all the other Linux distros

>>> have been FREE for years yet are on very few desktops.

>>

>> Wrong, try over 12 million just with Ubuntu.

>

> That is a number you pulled out of your ass. You have no way of knowing

> how many unsuspecting idiots are using that SHITTY OS.

>

>>

>>> Why oh why didn't

>>> word spread like wildfire and everyone install those distros on their

>>> PC's and ditch Windows?

>>>

>>> I'll tell you why: It's because those Linux distros are crap and

>>> everyone knows it. Ooops.

>>

>> Nope, it's because of several things, none of which have *anything* to

>> do with the quality of Ubuntu. They are:

>>

>> MS FUD that Linux is only for very savvy computer users, which, of

>> course, are all lies.

>

> Linux is only for geeks not by anything MS says but by the product

> itself. Oops.

Why do you lie? Oh yeah, your livelihood depends on Windows. Happy last

century, schmuck.

>

>> Most computers come preinstalled with Windows.

>>

>

> As they should.

This is changing. I have yet to see an iPad with windows but they're

selling like iPhones and iPods. MS isn't even on the caboose of the

train but Linux Android is right up there biting Apple's toes.

Some reading for you:

http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9177553/RIP_PC

Windows won't go away but its importance will be severely reduced.

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> Bill Yanaire, ESQ wrote:

>>

>> "Alias" wrote in message

>> news:hu607t$3pr$1@news.eternal-september.org...

>>> Bill Yanaire, ESQ wrote:

>>>>

>>>> "Alias" wrote in message

>>>> news:hu5u9n$rg4$1@news.eternal-september.org...

>>>>> Bill Yanaire, ESQ wrote:

>>>>>>

>>>>>> "Alias" wrote in message

>>>>>> news:hu5q8m$at4$1@news.eternal-september.org...

>>>>>>> Bill Yanaire, ESQ wrote:

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> "Alias" wrote in message

>>>>>>>> news:hu5g7j$dp8$1@news.eternal-september.org...

>>>>>>>>> Man-wai Chang to The Door (33600bps) wrote:

>>>>>>>>>>> You need 64 bit Flash. Try looking here:

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.adobe.com/software/flash/about/ to see what you

>>>>>>>>>>> have, if

>>>>>>>>>>> anything, installed.

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>> Only 64-bit browsers need 64-bit plugins! :)

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> No shit.

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> At least he isn't using that SHITTY Ubuntu

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Your uninformed opinion.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> that nobody wants!

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> An outright lie.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>> Actually, I re-read your comments. Let me correct it: At least he

>>>>>> isn't

>>>>>> using that SHITTY Ubuntu that 99.99999999999% of the people who try

>>>>>> Ubuntu reject it as the garbage it is.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Is that better?

>>>>>

>>>>> No, it's just another one of your lies because your livelihood depends

>>>>> on Windows.

>>>>>

I bought my wife an iPad last month and I have an Android based phone. I

will be writing applications on both platforms within 6-8 months, first

starting with the iPad. Just think if by chance you have an iPad, in the

near future you might just purchase one of my apps! Won't that be cool?

>>>>> --

>>>>> Alias

>>>>

>>>> It's not a lie. Tell me then - Ubuntu and all the other Linux distros

>>>> have been FREE for years yet are on very few desktops.

>>>

>>> Wrong, try over 12 million just with Ubuntu.

>>

>> That is a number you pulled out of your ass. You have no way of knowing

>> how many unsuspecting idiots are using that SHITTY OS.

>>

>>>

>>>> Why oh why didn't

>>>> word spread like wildfire and everyone install those distros on their

>>>> PC's and ditch Windows?

>>>>

>>>> I'll tell you why: It's because those Linux distros are crap and

>>>> everyone knows it. Ooops.

>>>

>>> Nope, it's because of several things, none of which have *anything* to

>>> do with the quality of Ubuntu. They are:

>>>

>>> MS FUD that Linux is only for very savvy computer users, which, of

>>> course, are all lies.

>>

>> Linux is only for geeks not by anything MS says but by the product

>> itself. Oops.

>

> Why do you lie? Oh yeah, your livelihood depends on Windows. Happy last

> century, schmuck.

>

See my above paragraph. My livelihood is fixed pretty damn good. Probably

better than that imaginary $14k a week you claim to get from the tooth

fairy! LOL!

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> Bill Yanaire, ESQ wrote:

>>

>> "Alias" wrote in message

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>>>>

>>>> "Alias" wrote in message

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>>>>> Bill Yanaire, ESQ wrote:

>>>>>>

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>>>>>>> Bill Yanaire, ESQ wrote:

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> "Alias" wrote in message

>>>>>>>> news:hu5g7j$dp8$1@news.eternal-september.org...

>>>>>>>>> Man-wai Chang to The Door (33600bps) wrote:

>>>>>>>>>>> You need 64 bit Flash. Try looking here:

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.adobe.com/software/flash/about/ to see what you

>>>>>>>>>>> have, if

>>>>>>>>>>> anything, installed.

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>> Only 64-bit browsers need 64-bit plugins! :)

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> No shit.

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> At least he isn't using that SHITTY Ubuntu

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Your uninformed opinion.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> that nobody wants!

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> An outright lie.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>> Actually, I re-read your comments. Let me correct it: At least he

>>>>>> isn't

>>>>>> using that SHITTY Ubuntu that 99.99999999999% of the people who try

>>>>>> Ubuntu reject it as the garbage it is.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Is that better?

>>>>>

>>>>> No, it's just another one of your lies because your livelihood depends

>>>>> on Windows.

>>>>>

I bought my wife an iPad last month and I have an Android based phone. I

will be writing applications on both platforms within 6-8 months, first

starting with the iPad. Just think if by chance you have an iPad, in the

near future you might just purchase one of my apps! Won't that be cool?

>>>>> --

>>>>> Alias

>>>>

>>>> It's not a lie. Tell me then - Ubuntu and all the other Linux distros

>>>> have been FREE for years yet are on very few desktops.

>>>

>>> Wrong, try over 12 million just with Ubuntu.

>>

>> That is a number you pulled out of your ass. You have no way of knowing

>> how many unsuspecting idiots are using that SHITTY OS.

>>

>>>

>>>> Why oh why didn't

>>>> word spread like wildfire and everyone install those distros on their

>>>> PC's and ditch Windows?

>>>>

>>>> I'll tell you why: It's because those Linux distros are crap and

>>>> everyone knows it. Ooops.

>>>

>>> Nope, it's because of several things, none of which have *anything* to

>>> do with the quality of Ubuntu. They are:

>>>

>>> MS FUD that Linux is only for very savvy computer users, which, of

>>> course, are all lies.

>>

>> Linux is only for geeks not by anything MS says but by the product

>> itself. Oops.

>

> Why do you lie? Oh yeah, your livelihood depends on Windows. Happy last

> century, schmuck.

>

See my above paragraph. My livelihood is fixed pretty damn good. Probably

better than that imaginary $14k a week you claim to get from the tooth

fairy! LOL!

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