On Thu, 13 May 2010 15:30:27 +0200, Alias

 

wrote:

 

 

>Jackie wrote:

 

>> On 5/13/2010 14:48, Alias wrote:

 

>>> Nor do I. I use both Windows and Linux.

 

>> Do you have anything to say about the other things I said? You quoted

 

>> everything in my post.

 

>

 

>I suspect that Windows is targeted because of various reasons. Windows

 

>is easier to exploit and Windows users are usually less tech savvy than

 

>Linux users. All they have to do is click on the wrong advertisement in

 

>Facebook and they're hosed. The same wrong ad wouldn't affect Linux.

 

 

 

I don't believe that is a valid statement. Certainly you - the Linux

 

Advocate - are less savvy then any number of others posting in this

 

group - your foolish statement that the Windows kernel is the Registry

 

and your more recent one about a version of Linux being "built on"

 

Gnome, the desktop environment, certainly indicates that you have

 

little knowledge of either system.

 

 

 

If your assertions are correct I wonder about the various firewalls

 

that have been built for Linux? Not necessary as the system is bullet

 

proof? Gee, I wonder why those stupid Linux coders made them?

 

 

 

I wonder is perhaps, rather then waving your hands in the air and

 

repeating your mantra "Linux is wonderful, wonderful, wonderful" you

 

might like to address my comments in some detail?

 

John B. Slocomb

 

(johnbslocombatgmaildotcom)

On 5/14/2010 03:06, John B. Slocomb wrote:

 

> Ah Jackie, you are learning about Alias. He posts some unsupported

 

> slander about Windows and when someone rebuts his post complete with

 

> quotes and references to demonstrate validity he replies with

 

> irrelevancies.

 

>

 

 

 

It would be nice if he could actually try to back anything he says up

 

even he doesn't have any reliable references, because it really is like

 

you say. Technical details would be good so that we can see if it even

 

sounds logical or not.

John B. Slocomb wrote:

 

> On Thu, 13 May 2010 15:30:27 +0200, Alias

 

> wrote:

 

>

 

>> Jackie wrote:

 

>>> On 5/13/2010 14:48, Alias wrote:

 

>>>> Nor do I. I use both Windows and Linux.

 

>>> Do you have anything to say about the other things I said? You quoted

 

>>> everything in my post.

 

>>

 

>> I suspect that Windows is targeted because of various reasons. Windows

 

>> is easier to exploit and Windows users are usually less tech savvy than

 

>> Linux users. All they have to do is click on the wrong advertisement in

 

>> Facebook and they're hosed. The same wrong ad wouldn't affect Linux.

 

>

 

> I don't believe that is a valid statement.

 

 

 

And the reason you think I care is?

 

 

 

--

 

Alias

John B. Slocomb wrote:

 

> On Thu, 13 May 2010 15:07:43 +0200, Jackie wrote:

 

>

 

>> On 5/13/2010 14:48, Alias wrote:

 

>>> Nor do I. I use both Windows and Linux.

 

>> Do you have anything to say about the other things I said? You quoted

 

>> everything in my post.

 

>

 

>

 

> Ah Jackie, you are learning about Alias. He posts some unsupported

 

> slander about Windows and when someone rebuts his post complete with

 

> quotes and references to demonstrate validity he replies with

 

> irrelevancies.

 

>

 

> Given that Alias seems to know very little about computers, witness

 

> his assertion that the Windows kernel is the Registry and that a

 

> certain compilation of Linux is a version based on the desktop

 

> environment, it seems likely that he is one of these "instant

 

> experts", that finally learned enough to turn the computer on and off

 

> and now portrays himself as the all knowing pundit.

 

>

 

>

 

> John B. Slocomb

 

> (johnbslocombatgmaildotcom)

 

 

 

Wrong, I have *never* claimed to be a computer expert.

 

 

 

--

 

Alias

Jackie wrote:

 

> On 5/14/2010 03:06, John B. Slocomb wrote:

 

>> Ah Jackie, you are learning about Alias. He posts some unsupported

 

>> slander about Windows and when someone rebuts his post complete with

 

>> quotes and references to demonstrate validity he replies with

 

>> irrelevancies.

 

>>

 

>

 

> It would be nice if he could actually try to back anything he says up

 

> even he doesn't have any reliable references, because it really is like

 

> you say. Technical details would be good so that we can see if it even

 

> sounds logical or not.

 

>

 

 

 

OR, you could do your own research and see if what I am saying is true.

 

What is it about you Windows users that makes you think everyone has to

 

prove to you what they say is true?

 

 

 

--

 

Alias

Alias wrote:

 

 

 

SNIP

 

 

> OR, you could do your own research and see if what I am saying is true.

 

> What is it about you Windows users that makes you think everyone has to

 

> prove to you what they say is true?

 

>

 

 

 

You're a Windows user, dumbass.

 

 

 

Tell them how you make $14,000 /week.

 

That will give you at least a little credibility.

 

 

 

That ubuntu is based on gnome was hilarious.

 

 

 

--

 

Vita brevis breviter in brevi finietur,

 

Mors venit velociter quae neminem veretur.

On 5/14/2010 12:36, Alias wrote:

 

>> It would be nice if he could actually try to back anything he says up

 

>> even he doesn't have any reliable references, because it really is like

 

>> you say. Technical details would be good so that we can see if it even

 

>> sounds logical or not.

 

>>

 

>

 

> OR, you could do your own research and see if what I am saying is true.

 

> What is it about you Windows users that makes you think everyone has to

 

> prove to you what they say is true?

 

>

 

 

 

Unfortunately, this is getting a bit ridiculous.

 

Facts are either true or false. I have said my part on why I believe

 

what I believe. I don't feel that you have contributed much.

 

If you feel that I am wrong, please enlighten me. If you don't want to

 

bother convincing me and other people on why we are wrong, I suggest we

 

stop talking about this because the conversation is already starting to

 

become meaningless.

 

If you have read my previous posts, does it really sound like I need to

 

"do my own research"? What part of what you *you* say sounds even

 

slightly convincing?

 

You can believe whatever you want to believe, but if you do not have any

 

intention on enlightening us, let's end this conversation right now.

Jackie wrote:

 

> On 5/14/2010 12:36, Alias wrote:

 

>>> It would be nice if he could actually try to back anything he says up

 

>>> even he doesn't have any reliable references, because it really is like

 

>>> you say. Technical details would be good so that we can see if it even

 

>>> sounds logical or not.

 

>>>

 

>>

 

>> OR, you could do your own research and see if what I am saying is true.

 

>> What is it about you Windows users that makes you think everyone has to

 

>> prove to you what they say is true?

 

>>

 

>

 

> Unfortunately, this is getting a bit ridiculous.

 

> Facts are either true or false. I have said my part on why I believe

 

> what I believe. I don't feel that you have contributed much.

 

> If you feel that I am wrong, please enlighten me. If you don't want to

 

> bother convincing me and other people on why we are wrong, I suggest we

 

> stop talking about this because the conversation is already starting to

 

> become meaningless.

 

> If you have read my previous posts, does it really sound like I need to

 

> "do my own research"? What part of what you *you* say sounds even

 

> slightly convincing?

 

> You can believe whatever you want to believe, but if you do not have any

 

> intention on enlightening us, let's end this conversation right now.

 

 

 

Regardless of any proof I may give, you and John won't believe me anyway

 

so what's the point?

 

 

 

If I have to prove that Windows is vulnerable to malware and Linux is

 

much more secure to you guys, then doing so is a futile endeavor and I'm

 

not into futile endeavors.

 

 

 

--

 

Alias

Death wrote:

 

> Alias wrote:

 

>

 

> SNIP

 

>

 

>> OR, you could do your own research and see if what I am saying is true.

 

>> What is it about you Windows users that makes you think everyone has to

 

>> prove to you what they say is true?

 

>>

 

>

 

> You're a Windows user, dumbass.

 

 

 

So are you. I have stated many times that I use both. So fucking what?

 

 

>

 

> Tell them how you make $14,000 /week.

 

> That will give you at least a little credibility.

 

>

 

> That ubuntu is based on gnome was hilarious.

 

 

 

You really are desperate to find *something* to put me down with, why is

 

that? Is it because you're an asshole or are you jealous?

 

 

 

--

 

Alias

Alias wrote:

 

 

> Jackie wrote:

 

>> On 5/14/2010 12:36, Alias wrote:

 

>>>> It would be nice if he could actually try to back anything he says up

 

>>>> even he doesn't have any reliable references, because it really is like

 

>>>> you say. Technical details would be good so that we can see if it even

 

>>>> sounds logical or not.

 

>>>>

 

>>>

 

>>> OR, you could do your own research and see if what I am saying is true.

 

>>> What is it about you Windows users that makes you think everyone has to

 

>>> prove to you what they say is true?

 

>>>

 

>>

 

>> Unfortunately, this is getting a bit ridiculous.

 

>> Facts are either true or false. I have said my part on why I believe

 

>> what I believe. I don't feel that you have contributed much.

 

>> If you feel that I am wrong, please enlighten me. If you don't want to

 

>> bother convincing me and other people on why we are wrong, I suggest we

 

>> stop talking about this because the conversation is already starting to

 

>> become meaningless.

 

>> If you have read my previous posts, does it really sound like I need to

 

>> "do my own research"? What part of what you *you* say sounds even

 

>> slightly convincing?

 

>> You can believe whatever you want to believe, but if you do not have any

 

>> intention on enlightening us, let's end this conversation right now.

 

>

 

> Regardless of any proof I may give, you and John won't believe me anyway

 

> so what's the point?

 

>

 

 

 

There is no point in any conversation you participate in.

 

It's just Windows bashing, ubuntushitsthebed promoting, plain and

 

simple.

 

 

> If I have to prove that Windows is vulnerable to malware and Linux is

 

> much more secure to you guys, then doing so is a futile endeavor and I'm

 

> not into futile endeavors.

 

>

 

 

 

The "countdown to nothing" is a futile endeavor, dumbass.

 

 

 

--

 

Vita brevis breviter in brevi finietur,

 

Mors venit velociter quae neminem veretur.

Death wrote:

 

> Alias wrote:

 

>

 

>> Jackie wrote:

 

>>> On 5/14/2010 12:36, Alias wrote:

 

>>>>> It would be nice if he could actually try to back anything he says up

 

>>>>> even he doesn't have any reliable references, because it really is like

 

>>>>> you say. Technical details would be good so that we can see if it even

 

>>>>> sounds logical or not.

 

>>>>>

 

>>>>

 

>>>> OR, you could do your own research and see if what I am saying is true.

 

>>>> What is it about you Windows users that makes you think everyone has to

 

>>>> prove to you what they say is true?

 

>>>>

 

>>>

 

>>> Unfortunately, this is getting a bit ridiculous.

 

>>> Facts are either true or false. I have said my part on why I believe

 

>>> what I believe. I don't feel that you have contributed much.

 

>>> If you feel that I am wrong, please enlighten me. If you don't want to

 

>>> bother convincing me and other people on why we are wrong, I suggest we

 

>>> stop talking about this because the conversation is already starting to

 

>>> become meaningless.

 

>>> If you have read my previous posts, does it really sound like I need to

 

>>> "do my own research"? What part of what you *you* say sounds even

 

>>> slightly convincing?

 

>>> You can believe whatever you want to believe, but if you do not have any

 

>>> intention on enlightening us, let's end this conversation right now.

 

>>

 

>> Regardless of any proof I may give, you and John won't believe me anyway

 

>> so what's the point?

 

>>

 

>

 

> There is no point in any conversation you participate in.

 

> It's just Windows bashing, ubuntushitsthebed promoting, plain and

 

> simple.

 

>

 

>> If I have to prove that Windows is vulnerable to malware and Linux is

 

>> much more secure to you guys, then doing so is a futile endeavor and I'm

 

>> not into futile endeavors.

 

>>

 

>

 

> The "countdown to nothing" is a futile endeavor, dumbass.

 

>

 

 

 

Yawn. I didn't know you were so jealous of me. Oh well, the price of fame.

 

 

 

--

 

Alias

Alias wrote:

 

 

> Death wrote:

 

>> Alias wrote:

 

>>

 

>> SNIP

 

>>

 

>>> OR, you could do your own research and see if what I am saying is true.

 

>>> What is it about you Windows users that makes you think everyone has to

 

>>> prove to you what they say is true?

 

>>>

 

>>

 

>> You're a Windows user, dumbass.

 

>

 

> So are you. I have stated many times that I use both. So fucking what?

 

>

 

 

 

Read your previous remark...the one I replied to.

 

You said "you Windows users" ... are you daft?

 

 

>>

 

>> Tell them how you make $14,000 /week.

 

>> That will give you at least a little credibility.

 

>>

 

>> That ubuntu is based on gnome was hilarious.

 

>

 

> You really are desperate to find *something* to put me down with, why is

 

> that? Is it because you're an asshole or are you jealous?

 

>

 

 

 

Yes...I'm jealous of your gnome based ubuntard installation.

 

 

 

Fedora must be based on KDE...since I use KDE as my DE.

 

 

 

--

 

Vita brevis breviter in brevi finietur,

 

Mors venit velociter quae neminem veretur.

Death wrote:

 

> Alias wrote:

 

>

 

>> Death wrote:

 

>>> Alias wrote:

 

>>>

 

>>> SNIP

 

>>>

 

>>>> OR, you could do your own research and see if what I am saying is true.

 

>>>> What is it about you Windows users that makes you think everyone has to

 

>>>> prove to you what they say is true?

 

>>>>

 

>>>

 

>>> You're a Windows user, dumbass.

 

>>

 

>> So are you. I have stated many times that I use both. So fucking what?

 

>>

 

>

 

> Read your previous remark...the one I replied to.

 

> You said "you Windows users" ... are you daft?

 

 

 

You knew what I meant but you're desperate to put me down anyway you

 

can. Why is the question.

 

 

>

 

>>>

 

>>> Tell them how you make $14,000 /week.

 

>>> That will give you at least a little credibility.

 

>>>

 

>>> That ubuntu is based on gnome was hilarious.

 

>>

 

>> You really are desperate to find *something* to put me down with, why is

 

>> that? Is it because you're an asshole or are you jealous?

 

>>

 

>

 

> Yes...I'm jealous of your gnome based ubuntard installation.

 

 

 

Gosh, I made a mistake. What do you suggest, a lynching for those who

 

make mistakes here or what?

 

 

>

 

> Fedora must be based on KDE...since I use KDE as my DE.

 

>

 

 

 

Another who thinks he's perfect. It must be lonely being you.

 

 

 

--

 

Alias

Alias wrote:

 

 

> Death wrote:

 

 

 

SNIP

 

 

>>

 

>> The "countdown to nothing" is a futile endeavor, dumbass.

 

>>

 

>

 

> Yawn. I didn't know you were so *amused by* me. Oh well, the price of *stupidity*.

 

>

 

 

 

Corrected in place

 

 

 

--

 

Vita brevis breviter in brevi finietur,

 

Mors venit velociter quae neminem veretur.

Death wrote:

 

> Alias wrote:

 

>

 

>> Death wrote:

 

>

 

> SNIP

 

>

 

>>>

 

>>> The "countdown to nothing" is a futile endeavor, dumbass.

 

>>>

 

>>

 

>> Yawn. I didn't know you were so *amused by* me. Oh well, the price of *stupidity*.

 

>>

 

>

 

> Corrected in place

 

>

 

 

 

Was that supposed to be cute and clever, Mr Perfect?

 

 

 

--

 

Alias

Alias wrote:

 

 

> Death wrote:

 

 

 

SNIP

 

 

>>>> You're a Windows user, dumbass.

 

>>>

 

>>> So are you. I have stated many times that I use both. So fucking what?

 

>>>

 

>>

 

>> Read your previous remark...the one I replied to.

 

>> You said "you Windows users" ... are you daft?

 

>

 

> You knew what I meant but you're desperate to put me down anyway you

 

> can. Why is the question.

 

>

 

 

 

I rarely know what you "meant".

 

Only your psychiatrist knows for sure.

 

 

>>

 

>>>>

 

>>>> Tell them how you make $14,000 /week.

 

>>>> That will give you at least a little credibility.

 

>>>>

 

>>>> That ubuntu is based on gnome was hilarious.

 

>>>

 

>>> You really are desperate to find *something* to put me down with, why is

 

>>> that? Is it because you're an asshole or are you jealous?

 

>>>

 

>>

 

>> Yes...I'm jealous of your gnome based ubuntard installation.

 

>

 

> Gosh, I made a mistake. What do you suggest, a lynching for those who

 

> make mistakes here or what?

 

>

 

 

 

No, I just suspect you are as incorrect with your assertions and claims

 

made against Windows.

 

 

>>

 

>> Fedora must be based on KDE...since I use KDE as my DE.

 

>>

 

>

 

> Another who thinks he's perfect. It must be lonely being you.

 

>

 

 

 

Nope...stop projecting your life into mine.

 

Most of my friends couldn't care less about linux.

 

 

 

--

 

Vita brevis breviter in brevi finietur,

 

Mors venit velociter quae neminem veretur.

Alias wrote:

 

 

> Death wrote:

 

>> Alias wrote:

 

>>

 

>>> Death wrote:

 

>>

 

>> SNIP

 

>>

 

>>>>

 

>>>> The "countdown to nothing" is a futile endeavor, dumbass.

 

>>>>

 

>>>

 

>>> Yawn. I didn't know you were so *amused by* me. Oh well, the price of *stupidity*.

 

>>>

 

>>

 

>> Corrected in place

 

>>

 

>

 

> Was that supposed to be cute and clever, Mr Perfect?

 

>

 

 

 

Just clever.

 

Death ain't cute.

 

He's handsome and not an ubuntard.

 

+2 for Death.

 

 

 

--

 

Vita brevis breviter in brevi finietur,

 

Mors venit velociter quae neminem veretur.

Death wrote:

 

> Alias wrote:

 

>

 

>> Death wrote:

 

>

 

> SNIP

 

>

 

>>>>> You're a Windows user, dumbass.

 

>>>>

 

>>>> So are you. I have stated many times that I use both. So fucking what?

 

>>>>

 

>>>

 

>>> Read your previous remark...the one I replied to.

 

>>> You said "you Windows users" ... are you daft?

 

>>

 

>> You knew what I meant but you're desperate to put me down anyway you

 

>> can. Why is the question.

 

>>

 

>

 

> I rarely know what you "meant".

 

> Only your psychiatrist knows for sure.

 

>

 

>>>

 

>>>>>

 

>>>>> Tell them how you make $14,000 /week.

 

>>>>> That will give you at least a little credibility.

 

>>>>>

 

>>>>> That ubuntu is based on gnome was hilarious.

 

>>>>

 

>>>> You really are desperate to find *something* to put me down with, why is

 

>>>> that? Is it because you're an asshole or are you jealous?

 

>>>>

 

>>>

 

>>> Yes...I'm jealous of your gnome based ubuntard installation.

 

>>

 

>> Gosh, I made a mistake. What do you suggest, a lynching for those who

 

>> make mistakes here or what?

 

>>

 

>

 

> No, I just suspect you are as incorrect with your assertions and claims

 

> made against Windows.

 

>

 

>>>

 

>>> Fedora must be based on KDE...since I use KDE as my DE.

 

>>>

 

>>

 

>> Another who thinks he's perfect. It must be lonely being you.

 

>>

 

>

 

> Nope...stop projecting your life into mine.

 

> Most of my friends couldn't care less about linux.

 

>

 

 

 

All two of them, eh?

 

 

 

--

 

Alias

On 5/14/2010 13:13, Alias wrote:

 

> If I have to prove that Windows is vulnerable to malware and Linux is

 

> much more secure to you guys, then doing so is a futile endeavor and I'm

 

> not into futile endeavors.

 

>

 

 

 

That is a very general statement compared to ones you have previously

 

given. For example, you gave a statements such as "If you click on an ad

 

laced with malware, you're giving it permission to run" and "there is

 

malware that has developed the ability to fool ALL anti virus/malware

 

apps and UAC". If you didn't see my response to this, please do that.

 

 

 

Now, to answer your general statement...

 

For malicious apps to cause any damage to the system, it must be

 

elevated. I have already responded about the link you gave about

 

bypassing AV software

 

(http://www.h-online.com/security/news/item/New-attack-bypasses-anti-virus-software-997621.html).

 

 

 

In pre-release versions of Windows 7, it was possible for a malicious

 

application to take advantage of the automatic elevation option in

 

Windows 7. I do not know if this was fixed in the final version.

 

http://www.withinwindows.com/2009/02/04/windows-7-auto-elevation-mistake-lets-malware-elevate-freely-easily/

 

This feature is not present in Ubuntu, and you *can* turn it off in

 

Windows 7. That means it can no longer be taken advantage of.

 

 

 

Of course, a malicious app could mess up your personal files that you

 

always have full access to, but that applies for Linux as well.

 

 

 

Ubuntu has AppArmor installed by default. This is a an access control

 

system developed by Novell.

 

You can read more about it here:

 

https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AppArmor

 

 

 

Unfortunately, Windows does not have that installed by default, but you

 

can get similar solutions. I said earlier that I used Outpost Firewall

 

Pro 2009 that has a "Host protection" feature that provides a pretty

 

good amount of access control (like I mentioned in an earlier post). I

 

also use Sandboxie to run certain applications with limited resources.

 

http://www.sandboxie.com/

 

 

 

Such solutions giving such great amount of control are not already

 

pre-installed and/or very well integrated with Windows.

 

Considering that a similar solution is pre-installed in Ubuntu and does

 

not cost anything, I would say that it is indeed unfortunate for Windows.

Alias wrote:

 

 

> Death wrote:

 

>> Alias wrote:

 

>>

 

>>> Death wrote:

 

>>

 

>> SNIP

 

>>

 

 

 

SNIP since dumbass can't

 

 

>>> Another who thinks he's perfect. It must be lonely being you.

 

>>>

 

>>

 

>> Nope...stop projecting your life into mine.

 

>> Most of my friends couldn't care less about linux.

 

>>

 

>

 

> All two of them, eh?

 

>

 

 

 

Yes...I have 2 friends.

 

They both borrow money,tools,time...needy bastards they are.

 

Death is fixin to have no friends.

 

 

 

--

 

Vita brevis breviter in brevi finietur,

 

Mors venit velociter quae neminem veretur.

On Fri, 14 May 2010 12:34:58 +0200, Alias

 

wrote:

 

 

>John B. Slocomb wrote:

 

>> On Thu, 13 May 2010 15:07:43 +0200, Jackie wrote:

 

>>

 

>>> On 5/13/2010 14:48, Alias wrote:

 

>>>> Nor do I. I use both Windows and Linux.

 

>>> Do you have anything to say about the other things I said? You quoted

 

>>> everything in my post.

 

>>

 

>>

 

>> Ah Jackie, you are learning about Alias. He posts some unsupported

 

>> slander about Windows and when someone rebuts his post complete with

 

>> quotes and references to demonstrate validity he replies with

 

>> irrelevancies.

 

>>

 

>> Given that Alias seems to know very little about computers, witness

 

>> his assertion that the Windows kernel is the Registry and that a

 

>> certain compilation of Linux is a version based on the desktop

 

>> environment, it seems likely that he is one of these "instant

 

>> experts", that finally learned enough to turn the computer on and off

 

>> and now portrays himself as the all knowing pundit.

 

>>

 

>>

 

>> John B. Slocomb

 

>> (johnbslocombatgmaildotcom)

 

>

 

>Wrong, I have *never* claimed to be a computer expert.

 

 

 

 

 

You really, really, need to take some remedial reading classes as you

 

are either unable to understand simple English, or perhaps you don't

 

want to believe that you are wrong, yet again..

 

 

 

In any event, the term I used in reference to you was "instant

 

expert", used as a form of ridicule for those who, with little or no

 

knowledge, run about telling everyone how to do their job. Or in your

 

case what the best computer system is.

 

 

 

The Indians had a folk story about a rat that found a lump of turmeric

 

and started a provisions shop.

 

 

 

John B. Slocomb

 

(johnbslocombatgmaildotcom)

On Fri, 14 May 2010 12:36:07 +0200, Alias

 

wrote:

 

 

>Jackie wrote:

 

>> On 5/14/2010 03:06, John B. Slocomb wrote:

 

>>> Ah Jackie, you are learning about Alias. He posts some unsupported

 

>>> slander about Windows and when someone rebuts his post complete with

 

>>> quotes and references to demonstrate validity he replies with

 

>>> irrelevancies.

 

>>>

 

>>

 

>> It would be nice if he could actually try to back anything he says up

 

>> even he doesn't have any reliable references, because it really is like

 

>> you say. Technical details would be good so that we can see if it even

 

>> sounds logical or not.

 

>>

 

>

 

>OR, you could do your own research and see if what I am saying is true.

 

>What is it about you Windows users that makes you think everyone has to

 

>prove to you what they say is true?

 

 

 

I suppose because most of us prefer not to be lied to. If you

 

don't/can't prove it how do we know that you aren't deliberately

 

lying? And after you display your ignorance of computers a few times

 

it is very difficult to accept that you know anything at all. Another

 

reason is because many people are naturally polite and dislike saying

 

"You are a liar" so instead that say something like "can you prove

 

it?"

 

 

 

And I don't believe that it is confined to Windows users, I doubt that

 

many actually like to be lied to.

 

 

 

John B. Slocomb

 

(johnbslocombatgmaildotcom)

On Fri, 14 May 2010 13:13:29 +0200, Alias

 

wrote:

 

 

>Jackie wrote:

 

>> On 5/14/2010 12:36, Alias wrote:

 

>>>> It would be nice if he could actually try to back anything he says up

 

>>>> even he doesn't have any reliable references, because it really is like

 

>>>> you say. Technical details would be good so that we can see if it even

 

>>>> sounds logical or not.

 

>>>>

 

>>>

 

>>> OR, you could do your own research and see if what I am saying is true.

 

>>> What is it about you Windows users that makes you think everyone has to

 

>>> prove to you what they say is true?

 

>>>

 

>>

 

>> Unfortunately, this is getting a bit ridiculous.

 

>> Facts are either true or false. I have said my part on why I believe

 

>> what I believe. I don't feel that you have contributed much.

 

>> If you feel that I am wrong, please enlighten me. If you don't want to

 

>> bother convincing me and other people on why we are wrong, I suggest we

 

>> stop talking about this because the conversation is already starting to

 

>> become meaningless.

 

>> If you have read my previous posts, does it really sound like I need to

 

>> "do my own research"? What part of what you *you* say sounds even

 

>> slightly convincing?

 

>> You can believe whatever you want to believe, but if you do not have any

 

>> intention on enlightening us, let's end this conversation right now.

 

>

 

>Regardless of any proof I may give, you and John won't believe me anyway

 

>so what's the point?

 

>

 

>If I have to prove that Windows is vulnerable to malware and Linux is

 

>much more secure to you guys, then doing so is a futile endeavor and I'm

 

>not into futile endeavors.

 

 

 

 

 

Yes if you actually demonstrated the truth of anything I'd accept what

 

you said however you have yet to demonstrate a truth.

 

 

 

You allege that Windows is more susceptible to malware then Linux but

 

other then your say so why should we believe you?

 

 

 

It is for a very good reason that "hearsay" is not accepted as

 

evidence in a court of law. Why? It is too easy to prevaricate. A

 

charge that has been leveled against you many times.

 

 

 

John B. Slocomb

 

(johnbslocombatgmaildotcom)

>> And running softwares developped [sic] for Windows.

 

> Yeah, like malware.

 

 

 

No.. DirectX 3D games and HDTV viewer! :)

 

 

 

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> Yeah, it's not nearly as good as Windows is in running viruses, root

 

> kits, trojans and other malware.

 

 

 

NO... DirectX games and HDTV viewer!

 

 

 

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