On 5/13/2010 03:16, no_one@no_where.invalid wrote:

 

> Well after working with Vista II, otherwise known as Windows 7, for

 

> three months I can see that Microsoft is still incapable of producing

 

> a quality OS. So I need to look at some other system to switch to,

 

> likely one of the Linux distros.

 

>

 

> Bill - MN

 

 

 

Good luck with that. :)

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> Well after working with Vista II, otherwise known as Windows 7, for

 

> three months I can see that Microsoft is still incapable of producing

 

> a quality OS. So I need to look at some other system to switch to,

 

> likely one of the Linux distros.

 

>

 

> Bill - MN

 

> --

 

 

 

Nice hearing from you. Good bye.

 

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> Well after working with Vista II, otherwise known as Windows 7, for

 

> three months I can see that Microsoft is still incapable of producing

 

> a quality OS. So I need to look at some other system to switch to,

 

> likely one of the Linux distros.

 

>

 

> Bill - MN

 

> --

 

 

 

So you can't figure out Windows 7? Windows 7 is much better than Vista and

 

is very stable. You are probably incompetent and therefore you should

 

migrate to Ubuntu. Get with our resident Ubuntu idiot, Alias and he will

 

help you out.

 

 

 

Don't let the screen door hit your ass on the way out. LOL!

I switched from XP to W7 on a 5 year old system without any problems.

 

If an old guy like me can do this and learn new stuff in the process one

 

wonders

 

what the education system nowadays is producing or maybe its just you???

 

Every new OS has a learning curve but one must be capable of learning!!

 

 

 

peter

 

 

 

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> Well after working with Vista II, otherwise known as Windows 7, for

 

> three months I can see that Microsoft is still incapable of producing

 

> a quality OS. So I need to look at some other system to switch to,

 

> likely one of the Linux distros.

 

>

 

> Bill - MN

 

> --

"Heywood Jablowme" wrote in message

 

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>

 

>

 

> wrote in message

 

> news:hdkmu59pdkha3inpite9bgcsenrjtspvsu@4ax.com...

 

>> Well after working with Vista II, otherwise known as Windows 7, for

 

>> three months I can see that Microsoft is still incapable of producing

 

>> a quality OS. So I need to look at some other system to switch to,

 

>> likely one of the Linux distros.

 

>>

 

>> Bill - MN

 

>> --

 

>

 

> So you can't figure out Windows 7? Windows 7 is much better than Vista

 

> and is very stable. You are probably incompetent and therefore you should

 

> migrate to Ubuntu. Get with our resident Ubuntu idiot, Alias and he will

 

> help you out.

 

>

 

> Don't let the screen door hit your ass on the way out. LOL!

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

 

 

The original poster is Alias. Clever, eh?

On Wed, 12 May 2010 19:16:44 -0600, no_one wrote:

 

 

> Well after working with Vista II, otherwise known as Windows 7, for

 

> three months I can see that Microsoft is still incapable of producing a

 

> quality OS. So I need to look at some other system to switch to, likely

 

> one of the Linux distros.

 

>

 

> Bill - MN

 

 

 

If you find you need assistance, which you most likely won't, just

 

holler. I'm partial to Debian myself.

On 5/12/2010 11:06 PM, no_one@no_where.invalid wrote:

 

> "peter" wrote:

 

>

 

>> I switched from XP to W7 on a 5 year old system without any problems.

 

>> If an old guy like me can do this and learn new stuff in the process one

 

>> wonders

 

>

 

> Wonder away Peter I am 77 years old I guess that is not the problem.

 

> Ya us old guys can learn the new stuff.

 

>

 

>> what the education system nowadays is producing or maybe its just you???

 

>> Every new OS has a learning curve but one must be capable of learning!!

 

>

 

> I have learned any number of systems over the years, ran a BBS for 13

 

> years, currently maintain a few local business offices networks. Any

 

> other questions on learning abilities?

 

>>

 

>

 

>

 

> I had no problem with learning the system it is a problem with the ,

 

> shall I say bugs? The wife has a spreadsheet she uses a number of

 

> time a week. A few days ago when she tried to open it Windows Media

 

> Player opened instead of QuatroPro. So the file association had been

 

> changed, I suspect by the last updates. Fixed that but now QuatroPro

 

> no longer works. Typical stuff. There are other issues but I will

 

> not bore you with them.

 

>

 

> Bill - NM

 

 

 

An update cannot screw up a file association, only a user can screw up

 

file association so it is not a "bug".

 

And I seriously doubt that Windows Media Center could ever open a

 

Quattro Pro file.

 

And if you think that threatening to move to linux will somehow solve

 

user created problems...then for sure, make the move, and make my day!

On Thu, 13 May 2010 00:06:07 -0600, no_one@no_where.invalid wrote:

 

 

>"peter" wrote:

 

>

 

>>I switched from XP to W7 on a 5 year old system without any problems.

 

>>If an old guy like me can do this and learn new stuff in the process one

 

>>wonders

 

>

 

>Wonder away Peter I am 77 years old I guess that is not the problem.

 

>Ya us old guys can learn the new stuff.

 

>

 

>>what the education system nowadays is producing or maybe its just you???

 

>>Every new OS has a learning curve but one must be capable of learning!!

 

>

 

>I have learned any number of systems over the years, ran a BBS for 13

 

>years, currently maintain a few local business offices networks. Any

 

>other questions on learning abilities?

 

>>

 

>

 

>

 

> I had no problem with learning the system it is a problem with the ,

 

>shall I say bugs? The wife has a spreadsheet she uses a number of

 

>time a week. A few days ago when she tried to open it Windows Media

 

>Player opened instead of QuatroPro. So the file association had been

 

>changed, I suspect by the last updates. Fixed that but now QuatroPro

 

>no longer works. Typical stuff. There are other issues but I will

 

>not bore you with them.

 

>

 

>Bill - NM

 

 

 

You can always simply ignore the file associations. Instead of opening

 

the document and having it open its parent application, open the

 

application and then use it's File/Open command to open the document,

 

thereby completely bypassing any file associations.

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> Well after working with Vista II, otherwise known as Windows 7, for

 

> three months I can see that Microsoft is still incapable of producing

 

> a quality OS. So I need to look at some other system to switch to,

 

> likely one of the Linux distros.

 

>

 

> Bill - MN

 

> --

 

 

 

I plonked ya!!

Well after working with Vista II, otherwise known as Windows 7, for

 

three months I can see that Microsoft is still incapable of producing

 

a quality OS. So I need to look at some other system to switch to,

 

likely one of the Linux distros.

 

 

 

Bill - MN

 

--

no_one@no_where.invalid wrote:

 

> Well after working with Vista II, otherwise known as Windows 7, for

 

> three months I can see that Microsoft is still incapable of producing

 

> a quality OS. So I need to look at some other system to switch to,

 

> likely one of the Linux distros.

 

>

 

> Bill - MN

 

 

 

My Win 7 is the most stable and reliable Windows OS I ever had.

 

I even run several Linux distros as well as BSD and Solaris as virtual

 

machines on this platform. What's your problem?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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If I wasn't me I wouldn't like me either..........

You are so f****ng wrong.

 

Windiws 7 is Vista SP3, not Vista II.

 

How could anyone be so dum?

Hi, Bill.

 

 

> The wife has a spreadsheet she uses a number of

 

> time a week. A few days ago when she tried to open it Windows Media

 

> Player opened instead of QuatroPro. So the file association had been

 

> changed, I suspect by the last updates. Fixed that but now QuatroPro

 

> no longer works.

 

 

 

If you had said that in the beginning, you probably would have had some

 

helpful responses by now. ^}

 

 

 

It has been at least a decade since I used Quattro Pro and I don't recall

 

its file extensions (and I'm too lazy to look it up, even though I'm still a

 

youngster a couple of months shy of 75). WMP uses files with several

 

extensions, so probably one of them conflicts with the QP extension. Char

 

Jackson's suggestion makes sense to me: Start QP, then use its File menu to

 

Open the spreadsheet.

 

 

 

Have you tried to press Start | Control Panel | Default Programs? Here you

 

probably can find the QP file extension and change its "Current Default"

 

from WMP to QP.

 

 

 

RC

 

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Windows Live Mail 2009 (14.0.8089.0726) in Win7 Ultimate x64)

 

 

 

wrote in message

 

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> "peter" wrote:

 

>

 

>>I switched from XP to W7 on a 5 year old system without any problems.

 

>>If an old guy like me can do this and learn new stuff in the process one

 

>>wonders

 

>

 

> Wonder away Peter I am 77 years old I guess that is not the problem.

 

> Ya us old guys can learn the new stuff.

 

>

 

>>what the education system nowadays is producing or maybe its just you???

 

>>Every new OS has a learning curve but one must be capable of learning!!

 

>

 

> I have learned any number of systems over the years, ran a BBS for 13

 

> years, currently maintain a few local business offices networks. Any

 

> other questions on learning abilities?

 

>>

 

>

 

>

 

> I had no problem with learning the system it is a problem with the ,

 

> shall I say bugs? The wife has a spreadsheet she uses a number of

 

> time a week. A few days ago when she tried to open it Windows Media

 

> Player opened instead of QuatroPro. So the file association had been

 

> changed, I suspect by the last updates. Fixed that but now QuatroPro

 

> no longer works. Typical stuff. There are other issues but I will

 

> not bore you with them.

 

>

 

> Bill - NM

On 5/12/2010 4:18 PM, peter wrote:

 

> I switched from XP to W7 on a 5 year old system without any problems.

 

> If an old guy like me can do this and learn new stuff in the process one

 

> wonders

 

> what the education system nowadays is producing or maybe its just you???

 

> Every new OS has a learning curve but one must be capable of learning!!

 

>

 

> peter

 

>

 

 

 

That's because I think it was simply a trolling post. Nothing more,

 

nothing less.

"peter" wrote:

 

 

>I switched from XP to W7 on a 5 year old system without any problems.

 

>If an old guy like me can do this and learn new stuff in the process one

 

>wonders

 

 

 

Wonder away Peter I am 77 years old I guess that is not the problem.

 

Ya us old guys can learn the new stuff.

 

 

>what the education system nowadays is producing or maybe its just you???

 

>Every new OS has a learning curve but one must be capable of learning!!

 

 

 

I have learned any number of systems over the years, ran a BBS for 13

 

years, currently maintain a few local business offices networks. Any

 

other questions on learning abilities?

 

>

 

 

 

 

 

I had no problem with learning the system it is a problem with the ,

 

shall I say bugs? The wife has a spreadsheet she uses a number of

 

time a week. A few days ago when she tried to open it Windows Media

 

Player opened instead of QuatroPro. So the file association had been

 

changed, I suspect by the last updates. Fixed that but now QuatroPro

 

no longer works. Typical stuff. There are other issues but I will

 

not bore you with them.

 

 

 

Bill - NM

 

--

On 5/13/2010 09:16, no_one@no_where.invalid wrote:

 

> Well after working with Vista II, otherwise known as Windows 7, for

 

> three months I can see that Microsoft is still incapable of producing

 

> a quality OS. So I need to look at some other system to switch to,

 

> likely one of the Linux distros.

 

 

 

Linux is weaker than Window$ in some areas! :)

 

 

 

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>

 

> wrote in message

 

> news:hdkmu59pdkha3inpite9bgcsenrjtspvsu@4ax.com...

 

>> Well after working with Vista II, otherwise known as Windows 7, for

 

>> three months I can see that Microsoft is still incapable of producing

 

>> a quality OS. So I need to look at some other system to switch to,

 

>> likely one of the Linux distros.

 

>>

 

>> Bill - MN

 

>> --

 

>

 

> I plonked ya!!

 

>

 

>

 

 

 

Who cares?

 

 

 

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Man-wai Chang to The Door (33600bps) wrote:

 

> On 5/13/2010 09:16, no_one@no_where.invalid wrote:

 

>> Well after working with Vista II, otherwise known as Windows 7, for

 

>> three months I can see that Microsoft is still incapable of producing

 

>> a quality OS. So I need to look at some other system to switch to,

 

>> likely one of the Linux distros.

 

>

 

> Linux is weaker than Window$ in some areas! :)

 

>

 

 

 

Yeah, it's not nearly as good as Windows is in running viruses, root

 

kits, trojans and other malware.

 

 

 

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Alias

On 5/13/2010 12:25, Alias wrote:

 

>

 

> Yeah, it's not nearly as good as Windows is in running viruses, root

 

> kits, trojans and other malware.

 

>

 

 

 

I don't really think Linux is worse at running them. I mean, they are

 

just programs like any other program. Why would they run worse? :)

 

I know what you mean though, but considering that most computers have

 

Windows pre-installed, and most people keep Windows, no wonder why such

 

programs are targeted at it (more users, more profit). So I think it

 

shows that Windows is quite successful.

Jackie wrote:

 

> On 5/13/2010 12:25, Alias wrote:

 

>>

 

>> Yeah, it's not nearly as good as Windows is in running viruses, root

 

>> kits, trojans and other malware.

 

>>

 

>

 

> I don't really think Linux is worse at running them. I mean, they are

 

> just programs like any other program. Why would they run worse? :)

 

 

 

Because of Linux' architecture and Linux doesn't do .exe files.

 

 

> I know what you mean though, but considering that most computers have

 

> Windows pre-installed, and most people keep Windows, no wonder why such

 

> programs are targeted at it (more users, more profit). So I think it

 

> shows that Windows is quite successful.

 

 

 

This is a myth that is a part of the MS FUD against Linux. Unfortunately

 

many people believe this FUD. The reason Windows is easier to exploit

 

has nothing to do with its popularity. It's due to its architecture.

 

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Alias écrivait news:hsgk35$vib$3

 

@news.eternal-september.org:

 

 

> Man-wai Chang to The Door (33600bps) wrote:

 

>> On 5/13/2010 09:16, no_one@no_where.invalid wrote:

 

>>> Well after working with Vista II, otherwise known as Windows 7, for

 

>>> three months I can see that Microsoft is still incapable of producing

 

>>> a quality OS. So I need to look at some other system to switch to,

 

>>> likely one of the Linux distros.

 

>>

 

>> Linux is weaker than Window$ in some areas! :)

 

>>

 

>

 

> Yeah, it's not nearly as good as Windows is in running viruses, root

 

> kits, trojans and other malware.

 

>

 

 

 

And running softwares developped for Windows.

On 05/13/2010 01:04 PM, noone wrote:

 

> Alias écrivait news:hsgk35$vib$3

 

> @news.eternal-september.org:

 

>

 

>> Man-wai Chang to The Door (33600bps) wrote:

 

>>> On 5/13/2010 09:16, no_one@no_where.invalid wrote:

 

>>>> Well after working with Vista II, otherwise known as Windows 7, for

 

>>>> three months I can see that Microsoft is still incapable of producing

 

>>>> a quality OS. So I need to look at some other system to switch to,

 

>>>> likely one of the Linux distros.

 

>>>

 

>>> Linux is weaker than Window$ in some areas! :)

 

>>>

 

>>

 

>> Yeah, it's not nearly as good as Windows is in running viruses, root

 

>> kits, trojans and other malware.

 

>>

 

>

 

> And running softwares developped [sic] for Windows.

 

>

 

 

 

Yeah, like malware.

 

 

 

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Alias

On 5/13/2010 12:56, Alias wrote:

 

> Because of Linux' architecture and Linux doesn't do .exe files.

 

This is a matter of course though. Of course, I meant binaries built for

 

Linux and not running binaries made for Windows.

 

 

> This is a myth that is a part of the MS FUD against Linux

 

I can partially agree with this, actually. After I had already posted

 

it, I realized that I should have worded myself differently, because I

 

don't mean it exactly the way I said it. Just because is widely used and

 

because it's the only one most of us know about, it doesn't really have

 

to mean anything (other than good marketing strategies compared to

 

Linux). I did not mean that it is *easier* to exploit it either *because

 

of that* (but I assume you know already but just wanted to troll). What

 

I meant was it is *more likely to be targeted* because of it's mass of

 

users compared to other systems. Windows 7 is indeed more secure than

 

Windows XP (x86) at least. Drivers must be signed (but I think I have

 

seen some tool for signing them yourself for testing and such). It is

 

possible to disable the driver integrity check but needs elevation in

 

order to do that. In order for programs to load drivers, it also need to

 

be elevated. System services cannot be installed either without

 

elevation. But I can confirm that it is easy to add an entry to the

 

Windows task scheduler and make the process run with full system access

 

without the UAC popping up, if I don't recall incorrectly.

 

 

 

I do not like to say that one is best and anything else is crap.

Jackie wrote:

 

> On 5/13/2010 12:56, Alias wrote:

 

> > Because of Linux' architecture and Linux doesn't do .exe files.

 

> This is a matter of course though. Of course, I meant binaries built for

 

> Linux and not running binaries made for Windows.

 

>

 

>> This is a myth that is a part of the MS FUD against Linux

 

> I can partially agree with this, actually. After I had already posted

 

> it, I realized that I should have worded myself differently, because I

 

> don't mean it exactly the way I said it. Just because is widely used and

 

> because it's the only one most of us know about, it doesn't really have

 

> to mean anything (other than good marketing strategies compared to

 

> Linux). I did not mean that it is *easier* to exploit it either *because

 

> of that* (but I assume you know already but just wanted to troll). What

 

> I meant was it is *more likely to be targeted* because of it's mass of

 

> users compared to other systems. Windows 7 is indeed more secure than

 

> Windows XP (x86) at least. Drivers must be signed (but I think I have

 

> seen some tool for signing them yourself for testing and such). It is

 

> possible to disable the driver integrity check but needs elevation in

 

> order to do that. In order for programs to load drivers, it also need to

 

> be elevated. System services cannot be installed either without

 

> elevation. But I can confirm that it is easy to add an entry to the

 

> Windows task scheduler and make the process run with full system access

 

> without the UAC popping up, if I don't recall incorrectly.

 

>

 

> I do not like to say that one is best and anything else is crap.

 

 

 

Nor do I. I use both Windows and Linux.

 

 

 

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Alias

On 5/13/2010 14:48, Alias wrote:

 

> Nor do I. I use both Windows and Linux.

 

Do you have anything to say about the other things I said? You quoted

 

everything in my post.