Guest slobrian Posted March 7, 2010 Posted March 7, 2010 "MowGreen" wrote: > Bill wrote: > > > With all due respect Mow, if MS are still unaware of the widespread > > problems with the latest suite of updates, they have their heads right > > up their collective arses (or asses, if you prefer). It is unfair to > > users as well as to you guys who assist in these groups day in and day out. > > > > Bill > > > > > > > > LOL, Bill. Unfair or not, trust me, MS is *not* aware of how many Users > are experiencing issues installing the latest round of updates unless > said Users contact them. There is no MS presence in this newsgroup. > > In regards to updating, the primary method for MS' data collection > comes from Users' systems sending it to MS. But, that data is skewed > when an update appears to install properly, the info is sent to MS > servers, the User reboots, and the update is offered again. > The User attempts to install it again, the data is again sent as a > succesful installation, the User reboots, the update is offered again. > > After reading a great deal of posts in this NG it appears that a primary > cause of update installation failure this month is that there were just > too many of them being done at once. Then add in a kernel update and an > update for the notoriously brittle .NET Framework. The result is what > we're seeing in NGs and on forums ... a *much* higher number of Users > reporting update installation issues. > And wireless networks break ... and systems don't boot after installing > the updates ... and broken .NET Frameworks that must be uninstalled and > reinstalled. > > It's highly unusual to see the number of posts that show a User manually > downloading the updates, installing them, rebooting, and there are no > installation issues. To me, that's an indication that certain updates > should have installed on their own (known as an exclusive installation) > and NOT in conjunction with the installation of other updates. > > NOTE this change. I added the asterisks - > > Description of Software Update Services and Windows Server Update > Services changes in content for 2009 > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/894199 > > > Friday, October 16, 2009 > > Changes to existing Non-Security Content: > > > > * Microsoft .NET Framework 3.5 Service Pack 1 and .NET Framework 3.5 Family Update (KB951847) > > o Updating metadata of the following items to mark them for *exclusive install*: > > * Microsoft .NET Framework 3.5 Service Pack 1 and .NET Framework 3.5 Family Update for .NET > > versions 2.0 through 3.5 (KB951847) x64 > > * Microsoft .NET Framework 3.5 Service Pack 1 and .NET Framework 3.5 Family Update for .NET > > versions 2.0 through 3.5 (KB951847) x86 > > The .NET update is extremely complex and it needed to be installed by > itself > with no other update installation taking place. It is now thanks to > those who immediately contacted MS to report the installation failures. > You can bet your bottom dollar that those who reported this issue were > Business or Enterprise Users. > *Home Users need to report updating issues* as Business and Enterprise > do so that MS is made aware of them. > > > MowGreen > =============== > *-343-* FDNY > Never Forgotten > =============== > > banthecheck.com > "Security updates should *never* have *non-security content* prechecked" > > > > > > > > > . > Quote
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