The newbie&#039;s dilemma!

August 26, 200717 yr

i hope he takes the time to learn before tossing out any more of his

accusations.

now, i think i'll go back on topic and go check out your BugHunter.

TL

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"Troll_Lady" <TL@DogAgent.com> wrote in

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> correction. i am NOT the Administrator at Annexcafe.

>

> i'm sure if you did a google search, you could find many posts from me

> on various MS groups over the years. long before you discovered the

> 'net.

MS didn't have newsgroups when I got on the net. *grin*

> i keep my dial up account for my email address. it's been the same

> address since 1998.

I have a yahoo account that's older. LoL.

Anyhow, I suspect the root of the problem is lack of understanding on

the part of BoaterDave. with regard to what's going on inside the

computer.

I don't mean this as an attack on him as everyone has to start

someplace. Eventually, I believe he will learn how various technologies

work and be less inclined to form the conclusions that he has

previously.

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August 26, 200717 yr

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"Dustin Cook" <bughunter.dustin@gmail.com> wrote in message

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> "BoaterDave" <BoaterDave@nospam.invalid> wrote in

> news:eB9Ylwu5HHA.5268@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl:

>

>> Now why on earth would someone with DSL use a dial-up account to post

>> here?

>

> Why wouldn't they? I have access to several dialup accounts, several dsl

> lines and several cable modem lines. Not including various shell

> accounts. Each one serves a purpose.

I'm obviously dumb about such things :( Over here in the UK I pay a monthly

fee to an ISP for Broadband connection to the Internet. All time 'on line' -

24/7 - is 'free'. Whilst I recognise that I could also use a dial-up

facility with any ISP, such time on line with them (via a telphone line)

will cost real 'extra' money, often on a 'per minute' basis. As someone with

limited income, I can identify no reason at all for incurring extra costs.

>> "Cloak and Dagger"? Good way of putting things. <g>

>

> It just seems to me that you have misunderstood a few things, and seem to

> think someone is out to get you or something. I don't know, it's just

> what I'm beginning to think.

'Tis the other way round, Dustin. I'm trying to identify the bad guys! :)

>> Troll_Lady - the Administrator at Annexcafe - has strayed far from

>> home to monitor my posts here. I'd have thought 'she' (whoever the

>

> I'm not clear as to what you mean by monitor your posts either. Does she

> in some way have direct control over a usenet server? Is she sending

> global cancellation notices against your posts? What exactly is it she's

> doing?

She has control over Annexcafe newsgroups and has the ability to remove any

posts which are deemed 'unacceptable' - especially those which are probing

for the truth. I have been banned from posting there and am abiding by that

request. Whilst others may think otherwise, I'm convinced that she is only

here in this thread because I'm here! <g>

>> poster actually is in reality) would be far too busy to follow the

>> activities of someone like me. I'm just intrigued to know why I'm

>> perceived as being a threat, either here on MS or over in 'that other

>> place'.

>

> I'm lost. I haven't seen anyone claim you are a threat to them. Do you

> have url references?

The bad guys are highly unlikely to admit it! <g> No urls yet I'm afraid.

>> Unless, of course, there really is something that they wish to remain

>> hidden. )

>

> Everyone has things they'd rather not have the entire world find out, I'm

> sure. Everyone is human and we all make mistakes.

Indeed. :)

> Btw, It's not a big deal to myself, as I'll fix your post as I reply, but

> top-posting is often frowned upon because it interrupts the logical flow

> of the conversation.

I do understand that, but feel it stems from habits in the past.When I first

ventured into a newsgroup (here on the MS boards) I'm sure I missed some

answers to my queries as I was totally unaware of 'bottom posting'. I'm

sure most folk can cope with either method, especially if they follow a

thread from the outset and get a 'feeling' for the subject matter. Thanks

for your advice though. :)

David

PS Lots of advertising for your programme in this thread, eh, Dustin? <G>

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August 26, 200717 yr

No!

"Troll_Lady" <TL@DogAgent.com> wrote in message

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> you're surely not suggesting someone is impersonating me, are you?

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August 26, 200717 yr

another correction, BD.

i do not have control over Annexcafe newsgroups to remove any posts except

at board owners\moderators requests. boards are completely autonomous.

now, if you want to mention i have control to remove any posts from my own

boards, i won't dispute that.

"BoaterDave" <BoaterDave@nospam.invalid> wrote in message

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"Dustin Cook" <bughunter.dustin@gmail.com> wrote in message

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> "BoaterDave" <BoaterDave@nospam.invalid> wrote in

> news:eB9Ylwu5HHA.5268@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl:

>

>> Now why on earth would someone with DSL use a dial-up account to post

>> here?

>

> Why wouldn't they? I have access to several dialup accounts, several dsl

> lines and several cable modem lines. Not including various shell

> accounts. Each one serves a purpose.

I'm obviously dumb about such things :( Over here in the UK I pay a monthly

fee to an ISP for Broadband connection to the Internet. All time 'on line' -

24/7 - is 'free'. Whilst I recognise that I could also use a dial-up

facility with any ISP, such time on line with them (via a telphone line)

will cost real 'extra' money, often on a 'per minute' basis. As someone with

limited income, I can identify no reason at all for incurring extra costs.

>> "Cloak and Dagger"? Good way of putting things. <g>

>

> It just seems to me that you have misunderstood a few things, and seem to

> think someone is out to get you or something. I don't know, it's just

> what I'm beginning to think.

'Tis the other way round, Dustin. I'm trying to identify the bad guys! :)

>> Troll_Lady - the Administrator at Annexcafe - has strayed far from

>> home to monitor my posts here. I'd have thought 'she' (whoever the

>

> I'm not clear as to what you mean by monitor your posts either. Does she

> in some way have direct control over a usenet server? Is she sending

> global cancellation notices against your posts? What exactly is it she's

> doing?

She has control over Annexcafe newsgroups and has the ability to remove any

posts which are deemed 'unacceptable' - especially those which are probing

for the truth. I have been banned from posting there and am abiding by that

request. Whilst others may think otherwise, I'm convinced that she is only

here in this thread because I'm here! <g>

>> poster actually is in reality) would be far too busy to follow the

>> activities of someone like me. I'm just intrigued to know why I'm

>> perceived as being a threat, either here on MS or over in 'that other

>> place'.

>

> I'm lost. I haven't seen anyone claim you are a threat to them. Do you

> have url references?

The bad guys are highly unlikely to admit it! <g> No urls yet I'm afraid.

>> Unless, of course, there really is something that they wish to remain

>> hidden. )

>

> Everyone has things they'd rather not have the entire world find out, I'm

> sure. Everyone is human and we all make mistakes.

Indeed. :)

> Btw, It's not a big deal to myself, as I'll fix your post as I reply, but

> top-posting is often frowned upon because it interrupts the logical flow

> of the conversation.

I do understand that, but feel it stems from habits in the past.When I first

ventured into a newsgroup (here on the MS boards) I'm sure I missed some

answers to my queries as I was totally unaware of 'bottom posting'. I'm

sure most folk can cope with either method, especially if they follow a

thread from the outset and get a 'feeling' for the subject matter. Thanks

for your advice though. :)

David

PS Lots of advertising for your programme in this thread, eh, Dustin? <G>

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August 26, 200717 yr

thank you. progress.

"BoaterDave" <BoaterDave@nospam.invalid> wrote in message

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No!

"Troll_Lady" <TL@DogAgent.com> wrote in message

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> you're surely not suggesting someone is impersonating me, are you?

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August 26, 200717 yr

YW :)

"Troll_Lady" <TL@DogAgent.com> wrote in message

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> thank you. progress.

>

> "BoaterDave" <BoaterDave@nospam.invalid> wrote in message

> news:u2ZdNz95HHA.1484@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

> No!

>

> "Troll_Lady" <TL@DogAgent.com> wrote in message

> news:%231wb6r95HHA.1188@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>> you're surely not suggesting someone is impersonating me, are you?

>

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August 26, 200717 yr

Ooops! Sorry, Li.

So who, now ......... EXACTLY .......... has the power to remove posts in

the UK U2U group?

Is Sysop Ann (very straight and fair in my opinion) still 'in charge' - with

power to delete posts? If not, *why* not?

Does Andrew Taylor, the group Moderator, now have power to delete posts? If

not, *why* not? (It's his group after all ........ isn't it?)

There was very little traffic on the UK group before my arrival - and there

has been very little since. No-one needed to view or respond to any post I

made. Why did so many 'supporters' suddenly appear from the US site to try

to silence me in my quest for the truth? Any idea?

Is Mr Gooden concerned about the views of a kook like me? If so, *why* do

you think that might be? He's nothing to hide ......... has he?

Failure to answer such simple queries is one of the reasons that you now

find me posting here. It would seem that K.Dee's request to Microsoft to

have me banned from the Internet has not (yet) been successful. Frustrating

for her, I suspect! :)

HTH

David

"Troll_Lady" <TL@DogAgent.com> wrote in message

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> another correction, BD.

> i do not have control over Annexcafe newsgroups to remove any posts except

> at board owners\moderators requests. boards are completely autonomous.

>

> now, if you want to mention i have control to remove any posts from my own

> boards, i won't dispute that.

<snip>

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August 26, 200717 yr

nyob.

TL

"BoaterDave" <BoaterDave@nospam.invalid> wrote in message

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Ooops! Sorry, Li.

So who, now ......... EXACTLY .......... has the power to remove posts in

the UK U2U group?

Is Sysop Ann (very straight and fair in my opinion) still 'in charge' - with

power to delete posts? If not, *why* not?

Does Andrew Taylor, the group Moderator, now have power to delete posts? If

not, *why* not? (It's his group after all ........ isn't it?)

There was very little traffic on the UK group before my arrival - and there

has been very little since. No-one needed to view or respond to any post I

made. Why did so many 'supporters' suddenly appear from the US site to try

to silence me in my quest for the truth? Any idea?

Is Mr Gooden concerned about the views of a kook like me? If so, *why* do

you think that might be? He's nothing to hide ......... has he?

Failure to answer such simple queries is one of the reasons that you now

find me posting here. It would seem that K.Dee's request to Microsoft to

have me banned from the Internet has not (yet) been successful. Frustrating

for her, I suspect! :)

HTH

David

"Troll_Lady" <TL@DogAgent.com> wrote in message

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> another correction, BD.

> i do not have control over Annexcafe newsgroups to remove any posts except

> at board owners\moderators requests. boards are completely autonomous.

>

> now, if you want to mention i have control to remove any posts from my own

> boards, i won't dispute that.

<snip>

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August 26, 200717 yr

And you wonder why I'm suspicious of your motives! <g>

I presume you meant to post noyb (none of your business)

Why can you not just give an honest and straight-forward answer to simple

queries? It would save a great deal of effort on everyone's part.

BD

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> nyob.

> TL

>

> "BoaterDave" <BoaterDave@nospam.invalid> wrote in message

> news:ujkUSk%235HHA.536@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

> Ooops! Sorry, Li.

>

> So who, now ......... EXACTLY .......... has the power to remove posts in

> the UK U2U group?

>

> Is Sysop Ann (very straight and fair in my opinion) still 'in charge' -

> with

> power to delete posts? If not, *why* not?

>

> Does Andrew Taylor, the group Moderator, now have power to delete posts?

> If

> not, *why* not? (It's his group after all ........ isn't it?)

>

> There was very little traffic on the UK group before my arrival - and

> there

> has been very little since. No-one needed to view or respond to any post I

> made. Why did so many 'supporters' suddenly appear from the US site to try

> to silence me in my quest for the truth? Any idea?

>

> Is Mr Gooden concerned about the views of a kook like me? If so, *why* do

> you think that might be? He's nothing to hide ......... has he?

>

> Failure to answer such simple queries is one of the reasons that you now

> find me posting here. It would seem that K.Dee's request to Microsoft to

> have me banned from the Internet has not (yet) been successful.

> Frustrating

> for her, I suspect! :)

>

> HTH

>

> David

>

> "Troll_Lady" <TL@DogAgent.com> wrote in message

> news:%23%233LEJ%235HHA.5160@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

>> another correction, BD.

>> i do not have control over Annexcafe newsgroups to remove any posts

>> except

>> at board owners\moderators requests. boards are completely autonomous.

>>

>> now, if you want to mention i have control to remove any posts from my

>> own

>> boards, i won't dispute that.

> <snip>

>

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August 27, 200717 yr

"BoaterDave" <BoaterDave@nospam.invalid> wrote in

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> I'm obviously dumb about such things :( Over here in the UK I pay a

> monthly fee to an ISP for Broadband connection to the Internet. All

> time 'on line' - 24/7 - is 'free'. Whilst I recognise that I could

> also use a dial-up facility with any ISP, such time on line with them

> (via a telphone line) will cost real 'extra' money, often on a 'per

> minute' basis. As someone with limited income, I can identify no

> reason at all for incurring extra costs.

In the usa, I don't have a per minute charge on the dialup lines. I

wouldn't be able to justify the cost of keeping them if I did. :)

As for the other lines, much of it has to do with what I do for a living.

Bandwidth is needed if your into computer repair. :)

>>> "Cloak and Dagger"? Good way of putting things. <g>

>>

>> It just seems to me that you have misunderstood a few things, and

>> seem to think someone is out to get you or something. I don't know,

>> it's just what I'm beginning to think.

>

> 'Tis the other way round, Dustin. I'm trying to identify the bad guys!

> :)

Ahh.. Okay. I haven't found any bad guys so far. so I'll continue to lurk

then. :)

> She has control over Annexcafe newsgroups and has the ability to

> remove any posts which are deemed 'unacceptable' - especially those

Again, that's not information I would have access too. I don't know

anything about annexcafe aside from the fact it appears to be some kind

of social networking site?

> and am abiding by that request. Whilst others may think otherwise, I'm

> convinced that she is only here in this thread because I'm here! <g>

I don't know anything about annexxcafe policys on users. I'm unfamiliar

with it aside from little things I've read here.

>> Btw, It's not a big deal to myself, as I'll fix your post as I reply,

>> but top-posting is often frowned upon because it interrupts the

>> logical flow of the conversation.

>

> I do understand that, but feel it stems from habits in the past.When I

> first ventured into a newsgroup (here on the MS boards) I'm sure I

> missed some answers to my queries as I was totally unaware of 'bottom

> posting'. I'm sure most folk can cope with either method, especially

> if they follow a thread from the outset and get a 'feeling' for the

> subject matter. Thanks for your advice though. :)

coping isn't the issue. I was just trying to keep you out of the flamer

fire for top posting. :)

> David

>

> PS Lots of advertising for your programme in this thread, eh, Dustin?

Apparently so. Not exactly intentional on my part, however. It's just a

signature to me. And the program is freeware. I don't expect to get rich

from voluntary donations. *grin*

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August 27, 200717 yr

"Troll_Lady" <TL@Invalid.anywhere.nowhere.inalid.net> wrote in

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> aw, just trying to help him out a little with his misconceptions.

I really think the majority of it comes simply from not understanding how

things work. Instead of critizing, perhaps a bit of education would help?

> he tried to scan my dsl ip, didn't succeed, so i gave him another,

> easier one to try.

*shrug*. I made no effort to scan you. :) I just read the headers was all.

My post was really tongue in cheek. :)

> i could give him a few more but i'm sure he would get the same

> results. no computer at that ip.

No computer, or no response? :)

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August 27, 200717 yr

Thank you for all your comments, Dustin. (I'll cope with any flames! <g>)

Most folk here ignore me anyay I suspect! <wink>

David

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> "BoaterDave" <BoaterDave@nospam.invalid> wrote in

> news:OK#7Cx95HHA.2752@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl:

>

>> I'm obviously dumb about such things :( Over here in the UK I pay a

>> monthly fee to an ISP for Broadband connection to the Internet. All

>> time 'on line' - 24/7 - is 'free'. Whilst I recognise that I could

>> also use a dial-up facility with any ISP, such time on line with them

>> (via a telphone line) will cost real 'extra' money, often on a 'per

>> minute' basis. As someone with limited income, I can identify no

>> reason at all for incurring extra costs.

>

> In the usa, I don't have a per minute charge on the dialup lines. I

> wouldn't be able to justify the cost of keeping them if I did. :)

>

> As for the other lines, much of it has to do with what I do for a living.

> Bandwidth is needed if your into computer repair. :)

>

>>>> "Cloak and Dagger"? Good way of putting things. <g>

>>>

>>> It just seems to me that you have misunderstood a few things, and

>>> seem to think someone is out to get you or something. I don't know,

>>> it's just what I'm beginning to think.

>>

>> 'Tis the other way round, Dustin. I'm trying to identify the bad guys!

>> :)

>

> Ahh.. Okay. I haven't found any bad guys so far. so I'll continue to lurk

> then. :)

>

>> She has control over Annexcafe newsgroups and has the ability to

>> remove any posts which are deemed 'unacceptable' - especially those

>

> Again, that's not information I would have access too. I don't know

> anything about annexcafe aside from the fact it appears to be some kind

> of social networking site?

>

>> and am abiding by that request. Whilst others may think otherwise, I'm

>> convinced that she is only here in this thread because I'm here! <g>

>

> I don't know anything about annexxcafe policys on users. I'm unfamiliar

> with it aside from little things I've read here.

>

>>> Btw, It's not a big deal to myself, as I'll fix your post as I reply,

>>> but top-posting is often frowned upon because it interrupts the

>>> logical flow of the conversation.

>>

>> I do understand that, but feel it stems from habits in the past.When I

>> first ventured into a newsgroup (here on the MS boards) I'm sure I

>> missed some answers to my queries as I was totally unaware of 'bottom

>> posting'. I'm sure most folk can cope with either method, especially

>> if they follow a thread from the outset and get a 'feeling' for the

>> subject matter. Thanks for your advice though. :)

>

> coping isn't the issue. I was just trying to keep you out of the flamer

> fire for top posting. :)

>

>> David

>>

>> PS Lots of advertising for your programme in this thread, eh, Dustin?

>

> Apparently so. Not exactly intentional on my part, however. It's just a

> signature to me. And the program is freeware. I don't expect to get rich

> from voluntary donations. *grin*

>

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> Email: bughunter.dustin@gmail.com

> Web..: http://bughunter.it-mate.co.uk

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August 27, 200717 yr

ah, he' new to playing with ip scanners.

he's looking for 'vulnerable' computers so he can tell them about the 'bad

guys'.

to me, no computer at that ip is no response.

is there a difference?

i'm willing to help him technically, i'm not willing to gossip with him so

i'm a bad guy.

(in my case it should be a bad lady, but... )

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"Troll_Lady" <TL@Invalid.anywhere.nowhere.inalid.net> wrote in

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> aw, just trying to help him out a little with his misconceptions.

I really think the majority of it comes simply from not understanding how

things work. Instead of critizing, perhaps a bit of education would help?

> he tried to scan my dsl ip, didn't succeed, so i gave him another,

> easier one to try.

*shrug*. I made no effort to scan you. :) I just read the headers was all.

My post was really tongue in cheek. :)

> i could give him a few more but i'm sure he would get the same

> results. no computer at that ip.

No computer, or no response? :)

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August 27, 200717 yr

you want to gossip. your queries are personal and don't belong in

newsgroups.

why don't you email the people you want information from and stop asking me

for information about them? i do answer your queries about me and i correct

your assumptions when they're wrong.

your questions would be like me asking you 'where does wife shop? 'where do

you do your banking?' 'what do you do in your free time and where?' simple

queries, but ones i would hope you would refuse to answer!

it's your insistence that folks give you personal details that raises their

hackles. it's not safe on the 'net, giving you personal information gives it

to millions. why do you think people would want to do that? it doesn't make

them 'bad guys' just because they won't answer such questions.

"BoaterDave" <BoaterDave@nospam.invalid> wrote in message

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And you wonder why I'm suspicious of your motives! <g>

I presume you meant to post noyb (none of your business)

Why can you not just give an honest and straight-forward answer to simple

queries? It would save a great deal of effort on everyone's part.

BD

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> nyob.

> TL

>

> "BoaterDave" <BoaterDave@nospam.invalid> wrote in message

> news:ujkUSk%235HHA.536@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

> Ooops! Sorry, Li.

>

> So who, now ......... EXACTLY .......... has the power to remove posts in

> the UK U2U group?

>

> Is Sysop Ann (very straight and fair in my opinion) still 'in charge' -

> with

> power to delete posts? If not, *why* not?

>

> Does Andrew Taylor, the group Moderator, now have power to delete posts?

> If

> not, *why* not? (It's his group after all ........ isn't it?)

>

> There was very little traffic on the UK group before my arrival - and

> there

> has been very little since. No-one needed to view or respond to any post I

> made. Why did so many 'supporters' suddenly appear from the US site to try

> to silence me in my quest for the truth? Any idea?

>

> Is Mr Gooden concerned about the views of a kook like me? If so, *why* do

> you think that might be? He's nothing to hide ......... has he?

>

> Failure to answer such simple queries is one of the reasons that you now

> find me posting here. It would seem that K.Dee's request to Microsoft to

> have me banned from the Internet has not (yet) been successful.

> Frustrating

> for her, I suspect! :)

>

> HTH

>

> David

>

> "Troll_Lady" <TL@DogAgent.com> wrote in message

> news:%23%233LEJ%235HHA.5160@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

>> another correction, BD.

>> i do not have control over Annexcafe newsgroups to remove any posts

>> except

>> at board owners\moderators requests. boards are completely autonomous.

>>

>> now, if you want to mention i have control to remove any posts from my

>> own

>> boards, i won't dispute that.

> <snip>

>

Quote

August 27, 200717 yr

http://www.annexcafe.com

newsgroups & chat. private server. registration needed.

http://www.dogagent.com

newsgroups on a private server, open to the public.

both servers friendly to each other, both carry groups for the other in case

one is down for whatever reason. both will honor each others bans.

this is suspicious to BD.

he is even more suspicious because he doesn't understand how i can be staff

for both servers.

he had his identity stolen and rather than blame his own inexperience on

line, he insists 'we' did it and he's going to prove it.

TL

"Dustin Cook" <bughunter.dustin@gmail.com> wrote in message

news:Xns99991C41498AHHI2948AJD832@69.28.186.121...

"BoaterDave" <BoaterDave@nospam.invalid> wrote in

news:OK#7Cx95HHA.2752@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl:

> I'm obviously dumb about such things :( Over here in the UK I pay a

> monthly fee to an ISP for Broadband connection to the Internet. All

> time 'on line' - 24/7 - is 'free'. Whilst I recognise that I could

> also use a dial-up facility with any ISP, such time on line with them

> (via a telphone line) will cost real 'extra' money, often on a 'per

> minute' basis. As someone with limited income, I can identify no

> reason at all for incurring extra costs.

In the usa, I don't have a per minute charge on the dialup lines. I

wouldn't be able to justify the cost of keeping them if I did. :)

As for the other lines, much of it has to do with what I do for a living.

Bandwidth is needed if your into computer repair. :)

>>> "Cloak and Dagger"? Good way of putting things. <g>

>>

>> It just seems to me that you have misunderstood a few things, and

>> seem to think someone is out to get you or something. I don't know,

>> it's just what I'm beginning to think.

>

> 'Tis the other way round, Dustin. I'm trying to identify the bad guys!

> :)

Ahh.. Okay. I haven't found any bad guys so far. so I'll continue to lurk

then. :)

> She has control over Annexcafe newsgroups and has the ability to

> remove any posts which are deemed 'unacceptable' - especially those

Again, that's not information I would have access too. I don't know

anything about annexcafe aside from the fact it appears to be some kind

of social networking site?

> and am abiding by that request. Whilst others may think otherwise, I'm

> convinced that she is only here in this thread because I'm here! <g>

I don't know anything about annexxcafe policys on users. I'm unfamiliar

with it aside from little things I've read here.

>> Btw, It's not a big deal to myself, as I'll fix your post as I reply,

>> but top-posting is often frowned upon because it interrupts the

>> logical flow of the conversation.

>

> I do understand that, but feel it stems from habits in the past.When I

> first ventured into a newsgroup (here on the MS boards) I'm sure I

> missed some answers to my queries as I was totally unaware of 'bottom

> posting'. I'm sure most folk can cope with either method, especially

> if they follow a thread from the outset and get a 'feeling' for the

> subject matter. Thanks for your advice though. :)

coping isn't the issue. I was just trying to keep you out of the flamer

fire for top posting. :)

> David

>

> PS Lots of advertising for your programme in this thread, eh, Dustin?

Apparently so. Not exactly intentional on my part, however. It's just a

signature to me. And the program is freeware. I don't expect to get rich

from voluntary donations. *grin*

--

####################################################

Dustin Cook

Author of BugHunter - MalWare Removal Tool - v2.2c

Pad..: http://bughunter.it-mate.co.uk/pad.xml

####################################################

Quote

> http://www.annexcafe.com

August 27, 200717 yr

"he had his identity stolen" ............ that is TRUE.

'Trojan.Java.ByteVer.R' was identified as the culprit.

"and rather than blame his own inexperience on line, he insists 'we' did it

and he's going to prove it." ........... that is NOT true!

Recognising my inexperience, I set out to determine more about 'malware' and

try to discover just *how* I may have got a Trojan on my PC. I thought that

I had been careful, using Zone Alarm, AVG anti-virus, Ad-Aware and Spybot

amongst others. Oh yes, and a new facility then called Prevx. Insufficient

protection as it turned out!

Few stones have been left unturned (just google for BoaterDave and you'll

find many hundreds of my posts - I didn't ever think to do that less than

two years ago - how naive was that! <g>).

A suspicious email invited me to A/C U2U. I went simply out of curiosity. I

asked many questions. Although I learnt a grate deal from many helpful

people, some questions drew a blank and some folk became irritated. A person

or persons unknown was later able, somehow, to disable my PC whilst I was

connected to U2U through a modem and OE6. Not once, but on a number of

occasions. My quest is to determine just *how* it was done. By whom is

another matter, probably best left to the police.

Any help will be much appreciated. :)

David

************************************************************************************

"Troll_Lady" <TL@Invalid.anywhere.nowhere.inalid.net> wrote in message

news:utadnaBwYJjPC0_bnZ2dneKdnZydnZ2d@bright.net...

> newsgroups & chat. private server. registration needed.

>

> http://www.dogagent.com

> newsgroups on a private server, open to the public.

>

> both servers friendly to each other, both carry groups for the other in

> case

> one is down for whatever reason. both will honor each others bans.

>

> this is suspicious to BD.

>

> he is even more suspicious because he doesn't understand how i can be

> staff

> for both servers.

>

> he had his identity stolen and rather than blame his own inexperience on

> line, he insists 'we' did it and he's going to prove it.

>

> TL

<snip>

Quote

> http://www.annexcafe.com

August 27, 200717 yr

when i was strictly dial up, using a modem, i would get disconnected quite

often.

i soon learned to keep temp files cleaned, because i would get disconnected

trying to open a web page.

reconnect, open another page, disconnected again.

then, of course, isp's will disconnect you at any time if they feel you've

been 'inactive' or don't reply to their ping. (firewall)

you being disconnected while reading a news group would be a coincidence,

not a malicious attack.

TL

"BoaterDave" <BoaterDave@nospam.invalid> wrote in message

news:ey6GRRK6HHA.4476@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

"he had his identity stolen" ............ that is TRUE.

'Trojan.Java.ByteVer.R' was identified as the culprit.

"and rather than blame his own inexperience on line, he insists 'we' did it

and he's going to prove it." ........... that is NOT true!

Recognising my inexperience, I set out to determine more about 'malware' and

try to discover just *how* I may have got a Trojan on my PC. I thought that

I had been careful, using Zone Alarm, AVG anti-virus, Ad-Aware and Spybot

amongst others. Oh yes, and a new facility then called Prevx. Insufficient

protection as it turned out!

Few stones have been left unturned (just google for BoaterDave and you'll

find many hundreds of my posts - I didn't ever think to do that less than

two years ago - how naive was that! <g>).

A suspicious email invited me to A/C U2U. I went simply out of curiosity. I

asked many questions. Although I learnt a grate deal from many helpful

people, some questions drew a blank and some folk became irritated. A person

or persons unknown was later able, somehow, to disable my PC whilst I was

connected to U2U through a modem and OE6. Not once, but on a number of

occasions. My quest is to determine just *how* it was done. By whom is

another matter, probably best left to the police.

Any help will be much appreciated. :)

David

************************************************************************************

"Troll_Lady" <TL@Invalid.anywhere.nowhere.inalid.net> wrote in message

news:utadnaBwYJjPC0_bnZ2dneKdnZydnZ2d@bright.net...

> newsgroups & chat. private server. registration needed.

>

> http://www.dogagent.com

> newsgroups on a private server, open to the public.

>

> both servers friendly to each other, both carry groups for the other in

> case

> one is down for whatever reason. both will honor each others bans.

>

> this is suspicious to BD.

>

> he is even more suspicious because he doesn't understand how i can be

> staff

> for both servers.

>

> he had his identity stolen and rather than blame his own inexperience on

> line, he insists 'we' did it and he's going to prove it.

>

> TL

<snip>

Quote

August 27, 200717 yr

You are either *pretending* to be stupid Li, or you really are - which is

it? :)

I'd like to apologise for my spelling of 'great' in my original post. Sorry

about that.

BD

****************************************************************

"Troll_Lady" <TL@DogAgent.com> wrote in message

news:uW1fMON6HHA.5844@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

> when i was strictly dial up, using a modem, i would get disconnected quite

> often.

> i soon learned to keep temp files cleaned, because i would get

> disconnected

> trying to open a web page.

> reconnect, open another page, disconnected again.

>

> then, of course, isp's will disconnect you at any time if they feel you've

> been 'inactive' or don't reply to their ping. (firewall)

>

> you being disconnected while reading a news group would be a coincidence,

> not a malicious attack.

>

> TL

>

> "BoaterDave" <BoaterDave@nospam.invalid> wrote in message

> news:ey6GRRK6HHA.4476@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

> "he had his identity stolen" ............ that is TRUE.

> 'Trojan.Java.ByteVer.R' was identified as the culprit.

>

> "and rather than blame his own inexperience on line, he insists 'we' did

> it

> and he's going to prove it." ........... that is NOT true!

>

> Recognising my inexperience, I set out to determine more about 'malware'

> and

> try to discover just *how* I may have got a Trojan on my PC. I thought

> that

> I had been careful, using Zone Alarm, AVG anti-virus, Ad-Aware and Spybot

> amongst others. Oh yes, and a new facility then called Prevx. Insufficient

> protection as it turned out!

>

> Few stones have been left unturned (just google for BoaterDave and you'll

> find many hundreds of my posts - I didn't ever think to do that less than

> two years ago - how naive was that! <g>).

>

> A suspicious email invited me to A/C U2U. I went simply out of curiosity.

> I

> asked many questions. Although I learnt a grate deal from many helpful

> people, some questions drew a blank and some folk became irritated. A

> person

> or persons unknown was later able, somehow, to disable my PC whilst I was

> connected to U2U through a modem and OE6. Not once, but on a number of

> occasions. My quest is to determine just *how* it was done. By whom is

> another matter, probably best left to the police.

>

> Any help will be much appreciated. :)

>

> David

>

> ************************************************************************************

>

> "Troll_Lady" <TL@Invalid.anywhere.nowhere.inalid.net> wrote in message

> news:utadnaBwYJjPC0_bnZ2dneKdnZydnZ2d@bright.net...

>> http://www.annexcafe.com

>> newsgroups & chat. private server. registration needed.

>>

>> http://www.dogagent.com

>> newsgroups on a private server, open to the public.

>>

>> both servers friendly to each other, both carry groups for the other in

>> case

>> one is down for whatever reason. both will honor each others bans.

>>

>> this is suspicious to BD.

>>

>> he is even more suspicious because he doesn't understand how i can be

>> staff

>> for both servers.

>>

>> he had his identity stolen and rather than blame his own inexperience on

>> line, he insists 'we' did it and he's going to prove it.

>>

>> TL

> <snip>

>

Quote

August 27, 200717 yr

ok.

so much for your comment 'any help would be appreciated'

why would someone disconnect you if they wanted access to your computer?

a computer needs to be connected to be attacked.

(unless you insert a disc off line that is infected.)

so, to be safe, just disconnect your computer and you'll be fine.

"BoaterDave" <BoaterDave@nospam.invalid> wrote in message

news:eT9MfqN6HHA.3900@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

You are either *pretending* to be stupid Li, or you really are - which is

it? :)

I'd like to apologise for my spelling of 'great' in my original post. Sorry

about that.

BD

****************************************************************

"Troll_Lady" <TL@DogAgent.com> wrote in message

news:uW1fMON6HHA.5844@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

> when i was strictly dial up, using a modem, i would get disconnected quite

> often.

> i soon learned to keep temp files cleaned, because i would get

> disconnected

> trying to open a web page.

> reconnect, open another page, disconnected again.

>

> then, of course, isp's will disconnect you at any time if they feel you've

> been 'inactive' or don't reply to their ping. (firewall)

>

> you being disconnected while reading a news group would be a coincidence,

> not a malicious attack.

>

> TL

>

> "BoaterDave" <BoaterDave@nospam.invalid> wrote in message

> news:ey6GRRK6HHA.4476@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

> "he had his identity stolen" ............ that is TRUE.

> 'Trojan.Java.ByteVer.R' was identified as the culprit.

>

> "and rather than blame his own inexperience on line, he insists 'we' did

> it

> and he's going to prove it." ........... that is NOT true!

>

> Recognising my inexperience, I set out to determine more about 'malware'

> and

> try to discover just *how* I may have got a Trojan on my PC. I thought

> that

> I had been careful, using Zone Alarm, AVG anti-virus, Ad-Aware and Spybot

> amongst others. Oh yes, and a new facility then called Prevx. Insufficient

> protection as it turned out!

>

> Few stones have been left unturned (just google for BoaterDave and you'll

> find many hundreds of my posts - I didn't ever think to do that less than

> two years ago - how naive was that! <g>).

>

> A suspicious email invited me to A/C U2U. I went simply out of curiosity.

> I

> asked many questions. Although I learnt a grate deal from many helpful

> people, some questions drew a blank and some folk became irritated. A

> person

> or persons unknown was later able, somehow, to disable my PC whilst I was

> connected to U2U through a modem and OE6. Not once, but on a number of

> occasions. My quest is to determine just *how* it was done. By whom is

> another matter, probably best left to the police.

>

> Any help will be much appreciated. :)

>

> David

>

> ************************************************************************************

>

> "Troll_Lady" <TL@Invalid.anywhere.nowhere.inalid.net> wrote in message

> news:utadnaBwYJjPC0_bnZ2dneKdnZydnZ2d@bright.net...

>> http://www.annexcafe.com

>> newsgroups & chat. private server. registration needed.

>>

>> http://www.dogagent.com

>> newsgroups on a private server, open to the public.

>>

>> both servers friendly to each other, both carry groups for the other in

>> case

>> one is down for whatever reason. both will honor each others bans.

>>

>> this is suspicious to BD.

>>

>> he is even more suspicious because he doesn't understand how i can be

>> staff

>> for both servers.

>>

>> he had his identity stolen and rather than blame his own inexperience on

>> line, he insists 'we' did it and he's going to prove it.

>>

>> TL

> <snip>

>

Quote

August 27, 200717 yr

Yet again, Li, you failed to answer my simple question.

I therefore guess you aren't *pretending* at all. <g>

BD

*****************************

"Troll_Lady" <TL@DogAgent.com> wrote in message

news:O0xJHfO6HHA.1052@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

> ok.

> so much for your comment 'any help would be appreciated'

>

> why would someone disconnect you if they wanted access to your computer?

> a computer needs to be connected to be attacked.

> (unless you insert a disc off line that is infected.)

>

> so, to be safe, just disconnect your computer and you'll be fine.

>

> "BoaterDave" <BoaterDave@nospam.invalid> wrote in message

> news:eT9MfqN6HHA.3900@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

> You are either *pretending* to be stupid Li, or you really are - which is

> it? :)

>

> I'd like to apologise for my spelling of 'great' in my original post.

> Sorry

> about that.

>

> BD

>

> ****************************************************************

>

> "Troll_Lady" <TL@DogAgent.com> wrote in message

> news:uW1fMON6HHA.5844@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>> when i was strictly dial up, using a modem, i would get disconnected

>> quite

>> often.

>> i soon learned to keep temp files cleaned, because i would get

>> disconnected

>> trying to open a web page.

>> reconnect, open another page, disconnected again.

>>

>> then, of course, isp's will disconnect you at any time if they feel

>> you've

>> been 'inactive' or don't reply to their ping. (firewall)

>>

>> you being disconnected while reading a news group would be a coincidence,

>> not a malicious attack.

>>

>> TL

>>

>> "BoaterDave" <BoaterDave@nospam.invalid> wrote in message

>> news:ey6GRRK6HHA.4476@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>> "he had his identity stolen" ............ that is TRUE.

>> 'Trojan.Java.ByteVer.R' was identified as the culprit.

>>

>> "and rather than blame his own inexperience on line, he insists 'we' did

>> it

>> and he's going to prove it." ........... that is NOT true!

>>

>> Recognising my inexperience, I set out to determine more about 'malware'

>> and

>> try to discover just *how* I may have got a Trojan on my PC. I thought

>> that

>> I had been careful, using Zone Alarm, AVG anti-virus, Ad-Aware and Spybot

>> amongst others. Oh yes, and a new facility then called Prevx.

>> Insufficient

>> protection as it turned out!

>>

>> Few stones have been left unturned (just google for BoaterDave and you'll

>> find many hundreds of my posts - I didn't ever think to do that less than

>> two years ago - how naive was that! <g>).

>>

>> A suspicious email invited me to A/C U2U. I went simply out of curiosity.

>> I

>> asked many questions. Although I learnt a grate deal from many helpful

>> people, some questions drew a blank and some folk became irritated. A

>> person

>> or persons unknown was later able, somehow, to disable my PC whilst I was

>> connected to U2U through a modem and OE6. Not once, but on a number of

>> occasions. My quest is to determine just *how* it was done. By whom is

>> another matter, probably best left to the police.

>>

>> Any help will be much appreciated. :)

>>

>> David

>>

>> ************************************************************************************

>>

>> "Troll_Lady" <TL@Invalid.anywhere.nowhere.inalid.net> wrote in message

>> news:utadnaBwYJjPC0_bnZ2dneKdnZydnZ2d@bright.net...

>>> http://www.annexcafe.com

>>> newsgroups & chat. private server. registration needed.

>>>

>>> http://www.dogagent.com

>>> newsgroups on a private server, open to the public.

>>>

>>> both servers friendly to each other, both carry groups for the other in

>>> case

>>> one is down for whatever reason. both will honor each others bans.

>>>

>>> this is suspicious to BD.

>>>

>>> he is even more suspicious because he doesn't understand how i can be

>>> staff

>>> for both servers.

>>>

>>> he had his identity stolen and rather than blame his own inexperience on

>>> line, he insists 'we' did it and he's going to prove it.

>>>

>>> TL

>> <snip>

>>

>

Quote

August 27, 200717 yr

You are indeed a clueless dofuss.

Research your telly.

It broadcasts 24/7 to the queen.

"BoaterDave" <BoaterDave@nospam.invalid> wrote in message

news:ey6GRRK6HHA.4476@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

My quest is to determine just *how* it was done. By whom is

another matter, probably best left to the police.

Any help will be much appreciated. :)

David

Quote

August 27, 200717 yr

Hello again, PCButts1 - you don't seem to be offering much help or advice.

Best keep out of this thread. :)

BD

************************************************************

"BR" <none@Glochester.non> wrote in message

news:EdKdnemjq60Az07bnZ2dnUVZ_uGknZ2d@trueband.net...

> You are indeed a clueless dofuss.

>

> Research your telly.

>

> It broadcasts 24/7 to the queen.

>

> "BoaterDave" <BoaterDave@nospam.invalid> wrote in message

> news:ey6GRRK6HHA.4476@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

> My quest is to determine just *how* it was done. By whom is

> another matter, probably best left to the police.

>

> Any help will be much appreciated. :)

>

> David

>

Quote

August 28, 200717 yr

you were given a few simple answers as to why your dial up modem would

disconnect.

there are many more.

a malicious attack on your computer is not one of them.

again, anyone wanting to harm your computer and\or steal your identity would

want you connected.

whine to google

"why does my dial up modem disconnect"

"BoaterDave" <BoaterDave@nospam.invalid> wrote in message

news:e3jqNdP6HHA.4712@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

Yet again, Li, you failed to answer my simple question.

I therefore guess you aren't *pretending* at all. <g>

BD

*****************************

"Troll_Lady" <TL@DogAgent.com> wrote in message

news:O0xJHfO6HHA.1052@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

> ok.

> so much for your comment 'any help would be appreciated'

>

> why would someone disconnect you if they wanted access to your computer?

> a computer needs to be connected to be attacked.

> (unless you insert a disc off line that is infected.)

>

> so, to be safe, just disconnect your computer and you'll be fine.

>

> "BoaterDave" <BoaterDave@nospam.invalid> wrote in message

> news:eT9MfqN6HHA.3900@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

> You are either *pretending* to be stupid Li, or you really are - which is

> it? :)

>

> I'd like to apologise for my spelling of 'great' in my original post.

> Sorry

> about that.

>

> BD

>

> ****************************************************************

>

> "Troll_Lady" <TL@DogAgent.com> wrote in message

> news:uW1fMON6HHA.5844@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>> when i was strictly dial up, using a modem, i would get disconnected

>> quite

>> often.

>> i soon learned to keep temp files cleaned, because i would get

>> disconnected

>> trying to open a web page.

>> reconnect, open another page, disconnected again.

>>

>> then, of course, isp's will disconnect you at any time if they feel

>> you've

>> been 'inactive' or don't reply to their ping. (firewall)

>>

>> you being disconnected while reading a news group would be a coincidence,

>> not a malicious attack.

>>

>> TL

>>

>> "BoaterDave" <BoaterDave@nospam.invalid> wrote in message

>> news:ey6GRRK6HHA.4476@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>> "he had his identity stolen" ............ that is TRUE.

>> 'Trojan.Java.ByteVer.R' was identified as the culprit.

>>

>> "and rather than blame his own inexperience on line, he insists 'we' did

>> it

>> and he's going to prove it." ........... that is NOT true!

>>

>> Recognising my inexperience, I set out to determine more about 'malware'

>> and

>> try to discover just *how* I may have got a Trojan on my PC. I thought

>> that

>> I had been careful, using Zone Alarm, AVG anti-virus, Ad-Aware and Spybot

>> amongst others. Oh yes, and a new facility then called Prevx.

>> Insufficient

>> protection as it turned out!

>>

>> Few stones have been left unturned (just google for BoaterDave and you'll

>> find many hundreds of my posts - I didn't ever think to do that less than

>> two years ago - how naive was that! <g>).

>>

>> A suspicious email invited me to A/C U2U. I went simply out of curiosity.

>> I

>> asked many questions. Although I learnt a grate deal from many helpful

>> people, some questions drew a blank and some folk became irritated. A

>> person

>> or persons unknown was later able, somehow, to disable my PC whilst I was

>> connected to U2U through a modem and OE6. Not once, but on a number of

>> occasions. My quest is to determine just *how* it was done. By whom is

>> another matter, probably best left to the police.

>>

>> Any help will be much appreciated. :)

>>

>> David

>>

>> ************************************************************************************

>>

>> "Troll_Lady" <TL@Invalid.anywhere.nowhere.inalid.net> wrote in message

>> news:utadnaBwYJjPC0_bnZ2dneKdnZydnZ2d@bright.net...

>>> http://www.annexcafe.com

>>> newsgroups & chat. private server. registration needed.

>>>

>>> http://www.dogagent.com

>>> newsgroups on a private server, open to the public.

>>>

>>> both servers friendly to each other, both carry groups for the other in

>>> case

>>> one is down for whatever reason. both will honor each others bans.

>>>

>>> this is suspicious to BD.

>>>

>>> he is even more suspicious because he doesn't understand how i can be

>>> staff

>>> for both servers.

>>>

>>> he had his identity stolen and rather than blame his own inexperience on

>>> line, he insists 'we' did it and he's going to prove it.

>>>

>>> TL

>> <snip>

>>

>

Quote

August 28, 200717 yr

I don't mind you constantly replying with useless comments, Li. :)

At no time did I mention a 'dial-up' modem. I was connected to *Broadband*

via a modem supplied by my ISP (at that time Wanadoo, now Orange) - I *was*

connected and, as you mentioned (correctly) succeptible to attack.

My PC *was* attacked.

Perhaps you know why? ............... but then I'm quite sure you wouldn't

tell others here! <g>

BD

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"Troll_Lady" <TL@Invalid.anywhere.nowhere.inalid.net> wrote in message

news:-qqdndY1_MQjUE7bnZ2dnUVZ_h2pnZ2d@bright.net...

> you were given a few simple answers as to why your dial up modem would

> disconnect.

> there are many more.

>

> a malicious attack on your computer is not one of them.

> again, anyone wanting to harm your computer and\or steal your identity

> would

> want you connected.

>

> whine to google

> "why does my dial up modem disconnect"

>

> "BoaterDave" <BoaterDave@nospam.invalid> wrote in message

> news:e3jqNdP6HHA.4712@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

> Yet again, Li, you failed to answer my simple question.

>

> I therefore guess you aren't *pretending* at all. <g>

>

> BD

>

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> "Troll_Lady" <TL@DogAgent.com> wrote in message

> news:O0xJHfO6HHA.1052@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

>> ok.

>> so much for your comment 'any help would be appreciated'

>>

>> why would someone disconnect you if they wanted access to your computer?

>> a computer needs to be connected to be attacked.

>> (unless you insert a disc off line that is infected.)

>>

>> so, to be safe, just disconnect your computer and you'll be fine.

>>

>> "BoaterDave" <BoaterDave@nospam.invalid> wrote in message

>> news:eT9MfqN6HHA.3900@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>> You are either *pretending* to be stupid Li, or you really are - which is

>> it? :)

>>

>> I'd like to apologise for my spelling of 'great' in my original post.

>> Sorry

>> about that.

>>

>> BD

>>

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>> "Troll_Lady" <TL@DogAgent.com> wrote in message

>> news:uW1fMON6HHA.5844@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>>> when i was strictly dial up, using a modem, i would get disconnected

>>> quite

>>> often.

>>> i soon learned to keep temp files cleaned, because i would get

>>> disconnected

>>> trying to open a web page.

>>> reconnect, open another page, disconnected again.

>>>

>>> then, of course, isp's will disconnect you at any time if they feel

>>> you've

>>> been 'inactive' or don't reply to their ping. (firewall)

>>>

>>> you being disconnected while reading a news group would be a

>>> coincidence,

>>> not a malicious attack.

>>>

>>> TL

>>>

>>> "BoaterDave" <BoaterDave@nospam.invalid> wrote in message

>>> news:ey6GRRK6HHA.4476@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>>> "he had his identity stolen" ............ that is TRUE.

>>> 'Trojan.Java.ByteVer.R' was identified as the culprit.

>>>

>>> "and rather than blame his own inexperience on line, he insists 'we' did

>>> it

>>> and he's going to prove it." ........... that is NOT true!

>>>

>>> Recognising my inexperience, I set out to determine more about 'malware'

>>> and

>>> try to discover just *how* I may have got a Trojan on my PC. I thought

>>> that

>>> I had been careful, using Zone Alarm, AVG anti-virus, Ad-Aware and

>>> Spybot

>>> amongst others. Oh yes, and a new facility then called Prevx.

>>> Insufficient

>>> protection as it turned out!

>>>

>>> Few stones have been left unturned (just google for BoaterDave and

>>> you'll

>>> find many hundreds of my posts - I didn't ever think to do that less

>>> than

>>> two years ago - how naive was that! <g>).

>>>

>>> A suspicious email invited me to A/C U2U. I went simply out of

>>> curiosity.

>>> I

>>> asked many questions. Although I learnt a grate deal from many helpful

>>> people, some questions drew a blank and some folk became irritated. A

>>> person

>>> or persons unknown was later able, somehow, to disable my PC whilst I

>>> was

>>> connected to U2U through a modem and OE6. Not once, but on a number of

>>> occasions. My quest is to determine just *how* it was done. By whom is

>>> another matter, probably best left to the police.

>>>

>>> Any help will be much appreciated. :)

>>>

>>> David

>>>

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>>>

>>> "Troll_Lady" <TL@Invalid.anywhere.nowhere.inalid.net> wrote in message

>>> news:utadnaBwYJjPC0_bnZ2dneKdnZydnZ2d@bright.net...

>>>> http://www.annexcafe.com

>>>> newsgroups & chat. private server. registration needed.

>>>>

>>>> http://www.dogagent.com

>>>> newsgroups on a private server, open to the public.

>>>>

>>>> both servers friendly to each other, both carry groups for the other in

>>>> case

>>>> one is down for whatever reason. both will honor each others bans.

>>>>

>>>> this is suspicious to BD.

>>>>

>>>> he is even more suspicious because he doesn't understand how i can be

>>>> staff

>>>> for both servers.

>>>>

>>>> he had his identity stolen and rather than blame his own inexperience

>>>> on

>>>> line, he insists 'we' did it and he's going to prove it.

>>>>

>>>> TL

>>> <snip>

>>>

>>

>

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