XP with SP3 Update Hangs.

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Lost Soul

I was very happy with my system, the performance and reliability. For some
reason (call it idiocy), I opted to upgrade to SP3 and all it's other
updates (malicious tool etc).

What really annoys me more than what is below, is the fact that after
updating to SP3, my Kaspersky 7, Codecharge Studio, ASPstudio and a host of
other programs failed INCLUDING my Dlink wireless connection manager!
Needless to say, that one really got me going. I've resolved those issues
after spending quite a few dollars on updates and fixes for them, but that's
another issue.

Ooops and OK, now when booting XP with SP3, my profile hangs. Specifically,
my background image appears, but not my actual desktop (icon, shortcuts,
quicklaunch etc).

If I press the 3 magic buttons and select Shutdown and Logoff from the Task
MGR menu, then logon - all is well, albeit desktop refresh really blows when
I do a search - particularly of the Windows Root dir.

This seems to happen every third boot or so.

I've checked the Windows Update site and apparently am completely up to
date.

I can't seem to fix this, it's not critical as I can get around it, but why
does this happen.

Any ideas?

btw: I have the latest drivers and updates for All my Hardware, and this
problem began occurring before any hardware/driver updates. At least now
with these updates the problem doesn't occur all the time.
 
Once SP3 is installed,& before its 1st restart,one should run diskclean up,
defrag,& set to CHKDSK C: /F ...After,clean out windows & system Temp
folders...At this point,do whats listed above,plus,boot to xp cd,recovery,
type:CHKDSK C: /R

"Lost Soul" wrote:

> I was very happy with my system, the performance and reliability. For some
> reason (call it idiocy), I opted to upgrade to SP3 and all it's other
> updates (malicious tool etc).
>
> What really annoys me more than what is below, is the fact that after
> updating to SP3, my Kaspersky 7, Codecharge Studio, ASPstudio and a host of
> other programs failed INCLUDING my Dlink wireless connection manager!
> Needless to say, that one really got me going. I've resolved those issues
> after spending quite a few dollars on updates and fixes for them, but that's
> another issue.
>
> Ooops and OK, now when booting XP with SP3, my profile hangs. Specifically,
> my background image appears, but not my actual desktop (icon, shortcuts,
> quicklaunch etc).
>
> If I press the 3 magic buttons and select Shutdown and Logoff from the Task
> MGR menu, then logon - all is well, albeit desktop refresh really blows when
> I do a search - particularly of the Windows Root dir.
>
> This seems to happen every third boot or so.
>
> I've checked the Windows Update site and apparently am completely up to
> date.
>
> I can't seem to fix this, it's not critical as I can get around it, but why
> does this happen.
>
> Any ideas?
>
> btw: I have the latest drivers and updates for All my Hardware, and this
> problem began occurring before any hardware/driver updates. At least now
> with these updates the problem doesn't occur all the time.
>
>
>
>
 
Thanks for the reply Andrew.

Yeah, my system is cleaned up on a regular basis, should have put that in my
post as well.

I think (???) that I found the culprit(s).I've never, ever, ever used
Windows Messaging. Having said that, my lack of attention comes in. I
suspect that I downloaded a WM update (even tho I had it hidden since 'mud
was dust'). I personally think it's just junk anyway, but that would be my
opinion.

Anyway, after my post, I noticed the WM icon in the taskbar and was
surprised to say the least.

I also noticed that Panda (my AV) popped up and wanted me to enable Windows
Messaging Protection. I guess this happens in some predetermined timeframe
as I didn't see it previously as it only displayed for 3 seconds.

So I nuked WM (I have a script that removes it from the system and sets the
service to disabled), as well I disabled Panda from using WM protection and
notifying me of WM protection.

Now the problem seems to be gone. I've shutdown and powered off 4 times and
rebooted just fine. I've rebooted (not powering off) 5 times with no
apparent ill affects.

It may be premature, but at this point all seems well again. I'm suspecting
an issue with Panda and WM protection??? I've sent a message to Panda
support.

If I have further problems, I'll post.

Thanks again.

"Andrew E." <eckrichco@msn.com> wrote in message
news:25657222-0BBE-41D1-ABA5-332A8A9BF9E7@microsoft.com...
> Once SP3 is installed,& before its 1st restart,one should run diskclean
> up,
> defrag,& set to CHKDSK C: /F ...After,clean out windows & system Temp
> folders...At this point,do whats listed above,plus,boot to xp cd,recovery,
> type:CHKDSK C: /R
>
> "Lost Soul" wrote:
>
>> I was very happy with my system, the performance and reliability. For
>> some
>> reason (call it idiocy), I opted to upgrade to SP3 and all it's other
>> updates (malicious tool etc).
>>
>> What really annoys me more than what is below, is the fact that after
>> updating to SP3, my Kaspersky 7, Codecharge Studio, ASPstudio and a host
>> of
>> other programs failed INCLUDING my Dlink wireless connection manager!
>> Needless to say, that one really got me going. I've resolved those issues
>> after spending quite a few dollars on updates and fixes for them, but
>> that's
>> another issue.
>>
>> Ooops and OK, now when booting XP with SP3, my profile hangs.
>> Specifically,
>> my background image appears, but not my actual desktop (icon, shortcuts,
>> quicklaunch etc).
>>
>> If I press the 3 magic buttons and select Shutdown and Logoff from the
>> Task
>> MGR menu, then logon - all is well, albeit desktop refresh really blows
>> when
>> I do a search - particularly of the Windows Root dir.
>>
>> This seems to happen every third boot or so.
>>
>> I've checked the Windows Update site and apparently am completely up to
>> date.
>>
>> I can't seem to fix this, it's not critical as I can get around it, but
>> why
>> does this happen.
>>
>> Any ideas?
>>
>> btw: I have the latest drivers and updates for All my Hardware, and this
>> problem began occurring before any hardware/driver updates. At least now
>> with these updates the problem doesn't occur all the time.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
 
WinXP SP3 - Read all prerequisites for a successful installation
http://msmvps.com/blogs/harrywaldro...requisites-for-a-successful-installation.aspx

Steps to take before you install WinXP SP3
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/950717

Free unlimited installation and compatibility support is available for
Windows XP, but only for Service Pack 3 (SP3), until 14 Apr-09. Chat and
e-mail support is available only in the United States and Canada.

• US:
http://support.microsoft.com/oas/default.aspx?ln=en-us&prid=11273&gprid=522131

• CA:
http://support.microsoft.com/oas/default.aspx?ln=en-ca&prid=11273&gprid=522131

• UK:
http://support.microsoft.com/oas/default.aspx?ln=en-gb&prid=11273&gprid=522131

• AU:
http://support.microsoft.com/oas/default.aspx?ln=en-au&prid=11273&gprid=522131

• Other: http://support.microsoft.com/oas/default.aspx?gprid=1173 | select
Windows XP | select Windows XP Service Pack 3
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Desktop Experience - since 2002
AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net
DTS-L http://dts-l.net/


Lost Soul wrote:
> I was very happy with my system, the performance and reliability. For some
> reason (call it idiocy), I opted to upgrade to SP3 and all it's other
> updates (malicious tool etc).
>
> What really annoys me more than what is below, is the fact that after
> updating to SP3, my Kaspersky 7, Codecharge Studio, ASPstudio and a host
> of
> other programs failed INCLUDING my Dlink wireless connection manager!
> Needless to say, that one really got me going. I've resolved those issues
> after spending quite a few dollars on updates and fixes for them, but
> that's
> another issue.
>
> Ooops and OK, now when booting XP with SP3, my profile hangs.
> Specifically,
> my background image appears, but not my actual desktop (icon, shortcuts,
> quicklaunch etc).
>
> If I press the 3 magic buttons and select Shutdown and Logoff from the
> Task
> MGR menu, then logon - all is well, albeit desktop refresh really blows
> when
> I do a search - particularly of the Windows Root dir.
>
> This seems to happen every third boot or so.
>
> I've checked the Windows Update site and apparently am completely up to
> date.
>
> I can't seem to fix this, it's not critical as I can get around it, but
> why
> does this happen.
>
> Any ideas?
>
> btw: I have the latest drivers and updates for All my Hardware, and this
> problem began occurring before any hardware/driver updates. At least now
> with these updates the problem doesn't occur all the time.
 
Thanks PA Bear. I did follow those recommendations etc.

My AV was disabled (actually I crippled it) "Prior" to upgrading (network
upgrade). The issues began "after" the upgrade. In any case, all appears to
be well now and I received a fix (for registered users) from Panda that
"does fix" an issue with WM and Panda.

So all is well.

Thanks to all for the replies and pointers.

Cheers.
"PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABearMVP@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:eTSAzcfyIHA.3384@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> WinXP SP3 - Read all prerequisites for a successful installation
> http://msmvps.com/blogs/harrywaldro...requisites-for-a-successful-installation.aspx
>
> Steps to take before you install WinXP SP3
> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/950717
>
> Free unlimited installation and compatibility support is available for
> Windows XP, but only for Service Pack 3 (SP3), until 14 Apr-09. Chat and
> e-mail support is available only in the United States and Canada.
>
> • US:
> http://support.microsoft.com/oas/default.aspx?ln=en-us&prid=11273&gprid=522131
>
> • CA:
> http://support.microsoft.com/oas/default.aspx?ln=en-ca&prid=11273&gprid=522131
>
> • UK:
> http://support.microsoft.com/oas/default.aspx?ln=en-gb&prid=11273&gprid=522131
>
> • AU:
> http://support.microsoft.com/oas/default.aspx?ln=en-au&prid=11273&gprid=522131
>
> • Other: http://support.microsoft.com/oas/default.aspx?gprid=1173 | select
> Windows XP | select Windows XP Service Pack 3
> --
> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
> MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Desktop Experience - since 2002
> AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net
> DTS-L http://dts-l.net/
>
>
> Lost Soul wrote:
>> I was very happy with my system, the performance and reliability. For
>> some
>> reason (call it idiocy), I opted to upgrade to SP3 and all it's other
>> updates (malicious tool etc).
>>
>> What really annoys me more than what is below, is the fact that after
>> updating to SP3, my Kaspersky 7, Codecharge Studio, ASPstudio and a host
>> of
>> other programs failed INCLUDING my Dlink wireless connection manager!
>> Needless to say, that one really got me going. I've resolved those issues
>> after spending quite a few dollars on updates and fixes for them, but
>> that's
>> another issue.
>>
>> Ooops and OK, now when booting XP with SP3, my profile hangs.
>> Specifically,
>> my background image appears, but not my actual desktop (icon, shortcuts,
>> quicklaunch etc).
>>
>> If I press the 3 magic buttons and select Shutdown and Logoff from the
>> Task
>> MGR menu, then logon - all is well, albeit desktop refresh really blows
>> when
>> I do a search - particularly of the Windows Root dir.
>>
>> This seems to happen every third boot or so.
>>
>> I've checked the Windows Update site and apparently am completely up to
>> date.
>>
>> I can't seem to fix this, it's not critical as I can get around it, but
>> why
>> does this happen.
>>
>> Any ideas?
>>
>> btw: I have the latest drivers and updates for All my Hardware, and this
>> problem began occurring before any hardware/driver updates. At least now
>> with these updates the problem doesn't occur all the time.
>
>
 
YW & thanks for your follow-up post.

Lost Soul wrote:
> Thanks PA Bear. I did follow those recommendations etc.
>
> My AV was disabled (actually I crippled it) "Prior" to upgrading (network
> upgrade). The issues began "after" the upgrade. In any case, all appears
> to
> be well now and I received a fix (for registered users) from Panda that
> "does fix" an issue with WM and Panda.
>
> So all is well.
>
> Thanks to all for the replies and pointers.
>
> Cheers.
> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABearMVP@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:eTSAzcfyIHA.3384@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> WinXP SP3 - Read all prerequisites for a successful installation
>> http://msmvps.com/blogs/harrywaldro...requisites-for-a-successful-installation.aspx
>>
>> Steps to take before you install WinXP SP3
>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/950717
>>
>> Free unlimited installation and compatibility support is available for
>> Windows XP, but only for Service Pack 3 (SP3), until 14 Apr-09. Chat and
>> e-mail support is available only in the United States and Canada.
>>
>> • US:
>> http://support.microsoft.com/oas/default.aspx?ln=en-us&prid=11273&gprid=522131
>>
>> • CA:
>> http://support.microsoft.com/oas/default.aspx?ln=en-ca&prid=11273&gprid=522131
>>
>> • UK:
>> http://support.microsoft.com/oas/default.aspx?ln=en-gb&prid=11273&gprid=522131
>>
>> • AU:
>> http://support.microsoft.com/oas/default.aspx?ln=en-au&prid=11273&gprid=522131
>>
>> • Other: http://support.microsoft.com/oas/default.aspx?gprid=1173 |
>> select
>> Windows XP | select Windows XP Service Pack 3
>> --
>> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
>> MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Desktop Experience - since 2002
>> AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net
>> DTS-L http://dts-l.net/
>>
>>
>> Lost Soul wrote:
>>> I was very happy with my system, the performance and reliability. For
>>> some
>>> reason (call it idiocy), I opted to upgrade to SP3 and all it's other
>>> updates (malicious tool etc).
>>>
>>> What really annoys me more than what is below, is the fact that after
>>> updating to SP3, my Kaspersky 7, Codecharge Studio, ASPstudio and a host
>>> of
>>> other programs failed INCLUDING my Dlink wireless connection manager!
>>> Needless to say, that one really got me going. I've resolved those
>>> issues
>>> after spending quite a few dollars on updates and fixes for them, but
>>> that's
>>> another issue.
>>>
>>> Ooops and OK, now when booting XP with SP3, my profile hangs.
>>> Specifically,
>>> my background image appears, but not my actual desktop (icon, shortcuts,
>>> quicklaunch etc).
>>>
>>> If I press the 3 magic buttons and select Shutdown and Logoff from the
>>> Task
>>> MGR menu, then logon - all is well, albeit desktop refresh really blows
>>> when
>>> I do a search - particularly of the Windows Root dir.
>>>
>>> This seems to happen every third boot or so.
>>>
>>> I've checked the Windows Update site and apparently am completely up to
>>> date.
>>>
>>> I can't seem to fix this, it's not critical as I can get around it, but
>>> why
>>> does this happen.
>>>
>>> Any ideas?
>>>
>>> btw: I have the latest drivers and updates for All my Hardware, and this
>>> problem began occurring before any hardware/driver updates. At least now
>>> with these updates the problem doesn't occur all the time.
 
In your first post you mention you have Kaspersky 7 and in this post
you say Panda is your AV - do you have two AVs installed?

I had serious problems with SP3 (followed all the rules etc) unable to
boot in safe mode. On two computers had to uninstall Kaspersky, System
Restore pre SP3, reinstall SP3 in safe mode, reinstall Kaspersky. All
OK now.

On Mon, 9 Jun 2008 00:05:41 -0600, "Lost Soul"
<blackhole@anywhere.com> wrote:

>Thanks for the reply Andrew.
>
>Yeah, my system is cleaned up on a regular basis, should have put that in my
>post as well.
>
>I think (???) that I found the culprit(s).I've never, ever, ever used
>Windows Messaging. Having said that, my lack of attention comes in. I
>suspect that I downloaded a WM update (even tho I had it hidden since 'mud
>was dust'). I personally think it's just junk anyway, but that would be my
>opinion.
>
>Anyway, after my post, I noticed the WM icon in the taskbar and was
>surprised to say the least.
>
>I also noticed that Panda (my AV) popped up and wanted me to enable Windows
>Messaging Protection. I guess this happens in some predetermined timeframe
>as I didn't see it previously as it only displayed for 3 seconds.
>
>So I nuked WM (I have a script that removes it from the system and sets the
>service to disabled), as well I disabled Panda from using WM protection and
>notifying me of WM protection.
>
>Now the problem seems to be gone. I've shutdown and powered off 4 times and
>rebooted just fine. I've rebooted (not powering off) 5 times with no
>apparent ill affects.
>
>It may be premature, but at this point all seems well again. I'm suspecting
>an issue with Panda and WM protection??? I've sent a message to Panda
>support.
>
>If I have further problems, I'll post.
>
>Thanks again.
>
 
John, sorry for the confusion. What I should have mentioned was that I "had"
Kaspersky on, after all the issues I had I switched to Panda.

Only have Panda, I don't put two on at all.

My bad, apologies.

"John A" <none@none.com> wrote in message
news:qk6r44p383830v5u3tf3vnl6rbjhanpel0@4ax.com...
> In your first post you mention you have Kaspersky 7 and in this post
> you say Panda is your AV - do you have two AVs installed?
>
> I had serious problems with SP3 (followed all the rules etc) unable to
> boot in safe mode. On two computers had to uninstall Kaspersky, System
> Restore pre SP3, reinstall SP3 in safe mode, reinstall Kaspersky. All
> OK now.
>
> On Mon, 9 Jun 2008 00:05:41 -0600, "Lost Soul"
> <blackhole@anywhere.com> wrote:
>
>>Thanks for the reply Andrew.
>>
>>Yeah, my system is cleaned up on a regular basis, should have put that in
>>my
>>post as well.
>>
>>I think (???) that I found the culprit(s).I've never, ever, ever used
>>Windows Messaging. Having said that, my lack of attention comes in. I
>>suspect that I downloaded a WM update (even tho I had it hidden since 'mud
>>was dust'). I personally think it's just junk anyway, but that would be my
>>opinion.
>>
>>Anyway, after my post, I noticed the WM icon in the taskbar and was
>>surprised to say the least.
>>
>>I also noticed that Panda (my AV) popped up and wanted me to enable
>>Windows
>>Messaging Protection. I guess this happens in some predetermined timeframe
>>as I didn't see it previously as it only displayed for 3 seconds.
>>
>>So I nuked WM (I have a script that removes it from the system and sets
>>the
>>service to disabled), as well I disabled Panda from using WM protection
>>and
>>notifying me of WM protection.
>>
>>Now the problem seems to be gone. I've shutdown and powered off 4 times
>>and
>>rebooted just fine. I've rebooted (not powering off) 5 times with no
>>apparent ill affects.
>>
>>It may be premature, but at this point all seems well again. I'm
>>suspecting
>>an issue with Panda and WM protection??? I've sent a message to Panda
>>support.
>>
>>If I have further problems, I'll post.
>>
>>Thanks again.
>>
>
 
No problem - thanks for the explanation

John

On Tue, 10 Jun 2008 06:23:34 -0600, "Lost Soul"
<blackhole@anywhere.com> wrote:

>John, sorry for the confusion. What I should have mentioned was that I "had"
>Kaspersky on, after all the issues I had I switched to Panda.
>
>Only have Panda, I don't put two on at all.
>
>My bad, apologies.
>
>"John A" <none@none.com> wrote in message
>news:qk6r44p383830v5u3tf3vnl6rbjhanpel0@4ax.com...
>> In your first post you mention you have Kaspersky 7 and in this post
>> you say Panda is your AV - do you have two AVs installed?
>>
>> I had serious problems with SP3 (followed all the rules etc) unable to
>> boot in safe mode. On two computers had to uninstall Kaspersky, System
>> Restore pre SP3, reinstall SP3 in safe mode, reinstall Kaspersky. All
>> OK now.
>>
>> On Mon, 9 Jun 2008 00:05:41 -0600, "Lost Soul"
>> <blackhole@anywhere.com> wrote:
>>
>>>Thanks for the reply Andrew.
>>>
>>>Yeah, my system is cleaned up on a regular basis, should have put that in
>>>my
>>>post as well.
>>>
>>>I think (???) that I found the culprit(s).I've never, ever, ever used
>>>Windows Messaging. Having said that, my lack of attention comes in. I
>>>suspect that I downloaded a WM update (even tho I had it hidden since 'mud
>>>was dust'). I personally think it's just junk anyway, but that would be my
>>>opinion.
>>>
>>>Anyway, after my post, I noticed the WM icon in the taskbar and was
>>>surprised to say the least.
>>>
>>>I also noticed that Panda (my AV) popped up and wanted me to enable
>>>Windows
>>>Messaging Protection. I guess this happens in some predetermined timeframe
>>>as I didn't see it previously as it only displayed for 3 seconds.
>>>
>>>So I nuked WM (I have a script that removes it from the system and sets
>>>the
>>>service to disabled), as well I disabled Panda from using WM protection
>>>and
>>>notifying me of WM protection.
>>>
>>>Now the problem seems to be gone. I've shutdown and powered off 4 times
>>>and
>>>rebooted just fine. I've rebooted (not powering off) 5 times with no
>>>apparent ill affects.
>>>
>>>It may be premature, but at this point all seems well again. I'm
>>>suspecting
>>>an issue with Panda and WM protection??? I've sent a message to Panda
>>>support.
>>>
>>>If I have further problems, I'll post.
>>>
>>>Thanks again.
>>>
>>
>
>
 
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