64 Bit XP will not install on new hard drive

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Am trying to install XP on new hdd. I have orig. XP disk from Dell. After

initial

copying of temp files, the computer reboots and then nothing. I think this

is because

it is not seeing the hard drive which is a SATA drive. It is seen in the

BIOs but

not in installation. I cannot change settings for SATA in Bios. I have not

been

able to find SATA drivers for the F6 choice in setup. MS mentions this

problem in

ScsiCfgSet.exe but no longer supports this. I cannot install utility files

from another

Dell disk until I install XP. I do have the TxtSetUp.OEM file but no driver.

Your help will be sincerely appreciated.

Thank You,

Don
 
Go to Dell site, specific to your tag and download / make the sata

controller floppy.

Although if you have the Dell utility disk the 'make sata floppy' may be on

the disk



"DTrider" wrote in message

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> Am trying to install XP on new hdd. I have orig. XP disk from Dell.

> After

> initial

> copying of temp files, the computer reboots and then nothing. I think

> this

> is because

> it is not seeing the hard drive which is a SATA drive. It is seen in the

> BIOs but

> not in installation. I cannot change settings for SATA in Bios. I have

> not

> been

> able to find SATA drivers for the F6 choice in setup. MS mentions this

> problem in

> ScsiCfgSet.exe but no longer supports this. I cannot install utility

> files

> from another

> Dell disk until I install XP. I do have the TxtSetUp.OEM file but no

> driver.

> Your help will be sincerely appreciated.

> Thank You,

> Don
 
DTrider wrote:

> Am trying to install XP on new hdd. I have orig. XP disk from Dell. After

> initial

> copying of temp files, the computer reboots and then nothing. I think this

> is because

> it is not seeing the hard drive which is a SATA drive. It is seen in the

> BIOs but

> not in installation. I cannot change settings for SATA in Bios. I have not

> been

> able to find SATA drivers for the F6 choice in setup. MS mentions this

> problem in

> ScsiCfgSet.exe but no longer supports this. I cannot install utility files

> from another

> Dell disk until I install XP. I do have the TxtSetUp.OEM file but no driver.

> Your help will be sincerely appreciated.

> Thank You,

> Don




If you had mentioned the make and model of computer you were installing on,

or make and model of retail motherboard you bought for this computer,

it would be easier to comment on your dilemma.



Is this a Dell computer in original condition, on which you're using the Dell CD,

and is the Dell CD even from the same generation of computing ? (In other words,

are you using some Dell CD, not intended for this particular computer ?)



What would happen, if the Dell CD corresponded to the WinXP Gold (original release)

content ? Would that handle SATA ? Sometimes there is a BIOS setting, that can help

(such as Intel "compatible" mode).



Paul
 
Hi DL and Paul,



Thanks for your suggestions. PC is orig. Dell GX280, 40 gbHd, 528mbram.

I do have the orig. install disks and will look for Sata driver there. I'm

a little

surprised that the driver was not bundled with the XP disk but the XP disk

just

contains the OS. I should know to give make/model info when making post.

Sorry



Thanks again,
 
DTrider wrote:

> Hi DL and Paul,

>

> Thanks for your suggestions. PC is orig. Dell GX280, 40 gbHd, 528mbram.

> I do have the orig. install disks and will look for Sata driver there. I'm

> a little

> surprised that the driver was not bundled with the XP disk but the XP disk

> just

> contains the OS. I should know to give make/model info when making post.

> Sorry

>

> Thanks again,

>

>




The chipset could be Intel 915G/ICH6. The Dell site isn't clear about that,

choosing to say "Grantsdale" for the chipset. And since your OS is not installed

right now, it would be a little hard to run a utility to verify it :-(



http://support.dell.com/support/edocs/systems/opgx280/en/ug/advfeat0.htm#wp1132975



Try "Compatible" mode. See this section.



Drive Controller Configures the serial ATA controller's operating mode.

*Normal* enables the serial ATA controller to operate in

its serial ATA native mode only. *Compatible* enables the

serial ATA controller to operate in serial/parallel ATA

combination mode.



The "Compatible" mode is supposed to work for OSes as old as Win98 and as new

as Windows 7. It fools the software into thinking there are two ribbon cables

with up to four drives. The SATA ports are made to look like they're PATA as

well.



The WinXP Gold (original release), should work with "Compatible" mode. If

the Dell CD corresponds to SP1 or later, then either mode should have worked.

There is no particular need to install an Intel driver via F6, unless:



1) The chipset supports RAID (ICH6R)

2) You plan on either installing RAID immediately, or at some future date,

plan on experimenting with RAID. If you see RAID in your future, then

installing the RAID driver from the first day, makes sense.



Now, a good question would be, what would you do if you were stuck in

"Native" mode for some reason, and had a WinXP Gold CD. I'm not sure the

Intel Matrix driver, in F6 package format, would install on a vanilla ICH6.

It would be expecting an ICH6R.



I looked in the Matrix driver, and these are the devices it supports.



ExcludeFromSelect=PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2652&CC_0106

ExcludeFromSelect=PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2653&CC_0106



I looked in the ICH6 Specification Update (301474.pdf) and these

are the entries there.



2651h 03h 04h 05h ICH6

2652h 03h 04h 05h ICH6R

2653h 03h 04h N/A ICH6-M



So the Matrix driver doesn't mention "2651" or ICH6 as being supported.

And that is what I suspect is on your motherboard, as it is probably

$3 cheaper than ICH6R.



Somehow, you'd need to slipstream some Service Pack into the Dell CD,

and I don't know if you can do that or not.



In any case, I'm hoping a BIOS setting of "Compatible", will fix you up,

and that will be enough to get the job done.



If you need background info, on what "Native" and "Compatible" do, try

PDF page 11 here. Page 11 provides most of the value that the document

has to offer. The rest of it is harder to follow. While this document

explains how Intel did things for the ICH5, the ICH6 will share most

of the same characteristics.



"ICH5 Programmer’s Reference Manual"



http://www.intel.com/Assets/PDF/manual/252671.pdf



Paul
 
If your MB has an IDE connector, this adapter will solve the problem. Install with the Adapter. Then when XP is

installed, you can move the hard drive to native SATA.



http://www.newegg.com/product/product.aspx?item=N82E16822998001



Carl



On 5/3/2010 10:01 PM, DTrider wrote:

> Am trying to install XP on new hdd. I have orig. XP disk from Dell. After

> initial

> copying of temp files, the computer reboots and then nothing. I think this

> is because

> it is not seeing the hard drive which is a SATA drive. It is seen in the

> BIOs but

> not in installation. I cannot change settings for SATA in Bios. I have not

> been

> able to find SATA drivers for the F6 choice in setup. MS mentions this

> problem in

> ScsiCfgSet.exe but no longer supports this. I cannot install utility files

> from another

> Dell disk until I install XP. I do have the TxtSetUp.OEM file but no driver.

> Your help will be sincerely appreciated.

> Thank You,

> Don
 
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