Wireless Entertainment Desktop 8000 - new Bluetooth Transceiver

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Tim Locke

I have the new 8000 entertainment keyboard and mouse and have 2 questions.

firstly the blutooth receiver "Traansceiver v3.0 for bluetooth" model 1063
has broken and i would like to get a replacement but cannot find anywhere
that stocks this, is there an alternative i can get or is there a way to buy
this spare part ?

secondly, how do you ensure that the bluetooth works from initial PC boot,
as you are unable to go into the system setup etc as the keyboard won't work
until the bluetooth starts when the OS loads ??

many thanks,
 
Tim Locke wrote:
> I have the new 8000 entertainment keyboard and mouse and have 2 questions.
>
> firstly the blutooth receiver "Traansceiver v3.0 for bluetooth" model 1063
> has broken and i would like to get a replacement but cannot find anywhere
> that stocks this, is there an alternative i can get or is there a way to buy
> this spare part ?
>
> secondly, how do you ensure that the bluetooth works from initial PC boot,
> as you are unable to go into the system setup etc as the keyboard won't work
> until the bluetooth starts when the OS loads ??
>
> many thanks,


First of all, start here. The nice thing about standards, is there are so
many to choose from :-) What I don't see in the article, is anything
comparing Bluetooth stacks from Toshiba, Broadcom, etc., versus the one
in WinXP SP2 from Microsoft.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bluetooth

Evolution of the pairing process (both ends Bluetooth 2.1).
Your 8000 appears to be Bluetooth 2.0.

http://www.mobileburn.com/news.jsp?Id=3213

You can find Bluetooth transceivers listed here.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=2002810295&Configurator=&Subcategory=295

The Bluetooth SIG website - not everyone's cup of tea.

http://www.bluetooth.com/Bluetooth/Connect/Devices/Select_Your_First_Device.htm
http://www.bluetooth.com/Bluetooth/...oard__Select_Your_Personal_Computer_Model.htm

I looked at the Microsoft spec for the 8000, and they list
what appears to be the Bluetooth support in WinXP SP2. Profiles
are what are used to talk to Bluetooth devices. HID (human interface device)
could be the one used for keyboard and mouse. You should be able
to go through the "pairing" procedure with your Microsoft devices,
and a third party Bluetooth transceiver (as long as MS didn't
do something custom - by saying Bluetooth, they should adhere
to whatever standards exist).

Bluetooth Profile Support
* Serial Port (SPP)
* Object Push (OPP)
* Personal Area Networking (PANU)
* Human Interface Device (HID)
* Hard Copy Cable Replacement (HCRP)
* Dial-Up Networkng (DUN)

Read some of the reviews, to see how much fun you can have :-)

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductReview.aspx?Item=N82E16833320016

Profiles on Asus end of things:
19 Profiles for Windows (A2DP, AVRCP, BIP, BPP, DUN, FAX, FTP, GAP, GAVDP,
GEOP, HCRP, HFP, HID, HSP, OPP, PAN, SDAP, SPP, SYNC)

"I personally didn't like ASUS's software. I thought it was too intrusive
into windows vista. I downloaded the software from Broadcom's site for
bluetooth radios on pc's, and it had trouble installing. I grabbed the
install folder from user temp while it was trying to install and saved
it elsewhere. Did manual driver update from Device manager now vista sees
it as native device with no terrible ASUS software to deal with. Activesync
only works this way for me."

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductReview.aspx?Item=N82E16833127117

"I was looking for a USB BT dongle that would allow me to use my bluetooth
keyboard at boot time (i.e. before OS is loaded). Apparently the B2 - B4
revisions of this device did have this capability, but the latest (C1)
does not. BTW, D-link's support pages are Windows related only and pretty
awful at that."

The last comment implies that somehow, a Bluetooth transceiver is able to
support keyboard/mouse, before any OS stack is running. I don't know what
part of the "standard" specs that.

So while there are standards, there is plenty of fun to be had
getting it all to work.

Paul
 
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