Windows Security Centre

[Daniel Hirons]

For the past month the icon displaying the status of my windows security
centre has been a white cross on a red background indicating that there is a
problem. However, when I investigate further and open up the security centre
is says that it did not find an antivirus program when I have had Bullguard
protection and recently transfered onto Norton Antivirus. It also says that
windows defender is turned off but when I open up windows defender it says
that it is running fine and that the computer is fine as well. So I really
don't know why it isn't detecting my antivirus software and says that windows
defender is turned off. Can anyone help me on how to solve these problems?
--
Dan

 

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Daniel Hirons400305 Wrote:
> For the past month the icon displaying the status of my windows
> security
> centre has been a white cross on a red background indicating that there
> is a
> problem. However, when I investigate further and open up the security
> centre
> is says that it did not find an antivirus program when I have had
> Bullguard
> protection and recently transfered onto Norton Antivirus. It also says
> that
> windows defender is turned off but when I open up windows defender it
> says
> that it is running fine and that the computer is fine as well. So I
> really
> don't know why it isn't detecting my antivirus software and says that
> windows
> defender is turned off. Can anyone help me on how to solve these
> problems?
> --
> Dan

Hi Dan,

Try uninstalling Norton and use the free Avast antivirus instead.
Norton has been known to cause problems with Vista. Not sure on
Bullguard, but it seems that there is a problem with it on yours. Make
sure you only have one Antivirus program installed at a time.

'Free antivirus - avast! 4 Home Edition'
(http://www.avast.com/eng/avast_4_home.html)

Now check Security Center to see what it says.

Hope this helps,
Shawn


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[AMM]

Windows Security Centre problem as well

Hi all,

I've just experienced the exact same problem as Daniel Hirons had in my
activated Windows Vista Ultimate Edition. I've been using activated Norton
360 for the past few months now with no problems so far, when earlier today I
was alerted with a Windows Security Center notification. I checked the
Security Center to find two red alerts: one relating to Windows Firewall
turned off the other, to lack of virus protection as well as Windows
Defender turned off. This is strange as these warnings have appeared in spite
of Norton 360 on green condition, stating that my PC is being protected
Windows Defender also gives a thumbs up, stating that my "computer is running
normally". This is the first time I have received such warnings and as I try
turning on Windows Defender, I am informed that there are no new updates
available at the moment and the program remains not functioning. So what I
did was I ran System Restore twice: one to the latest Windows Update restore
point the other to the latest System Scheduled restore point. However, both
attempts have resulted with failure, saying that windows settings have not
been restored.

Just as additional points, I am quite a fan of utorrent and downloading
numerous programs, with caution of course, and my wife is quite an online
game addict. Most of the time I'm online, connected through DSL with an
Edimax router. Additionally, I have two other spyware protection (not
real-time) which I've downloaded from download.com and run them rather
occasionally for safety.

I hope I will soon receive some help since at the moment I am quite loyal to
Norton 360. I could have transfered to ZoneAlarm Internet Security Suite 7.1
but I find that it takes too much time to load on startup and has caused me
to lose connection to the internet.

Thanks in advance for any help

 

[Daniel Hirons]

RE: Windows Security Centre problem as well

Yes, that's exactly the same as what I initially got. It said that my
firewall was turned off so I turned it back on - and that sorted the problem.
However, I am getting the same problem as you with the windows defender
because Norton antivirus is saying that my computer is safe and windwos
defender also says that everything is working but I still get it saying that
there is no widnwos defender on the security centre. But to be honest why
should I have to unistall Norton Antivirus when I've paid £20 for it and it
says that it does work on Windows Vista?
--
Dan


"AMM" wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> I've just experienced the exact same problem as Daniel Hirons had in my
> activated Windows Vista Ultimate Edition. I've been using activated Norton
> 360 for the past few months now with no problems so far, when earlier today I
> was alerted with a Windows Security Center notification. I checked the
> Security Center to find two red alerts: one relating to Windows Firewall
> turned off the other, to lack of virus protection as well as Windows
> Defender turned off. This is strange as these warnings have appeared in spite
> of Norton 360 on green condition, stating that my PC is being protected
> Windows Defender also gives a thumbs up, stating that my "computer is running
> normally". This is the first time I have received such warnings and as I try
> turning on Windows Defender, I am informed that there are no new updates
> available at the moment and the program remains not functioning. So what I
> did was I ran System Restore twice: one to the latest Windows Update restore
> point the other to the latest System Scheduled restore point. However, both
> attempts have resulted with failure, saying that windows settings have not
> been restored.
>
> Just as additional points, I am quite a fan of utorrent and downloading
> numerous programs, with caution of course, and my wife is quite an online
> game addict. Most of the time I'm online, connected through DSL with an
> Edimax router. Additionally, I have two other spyware protection (not
> real-time) which I've downloaded from download.com and run them rather
> occasionally for safety.
>
> I hope I will soon receive some help since at the moment I am quite loyal to
> Norton 360. I could have transfered to ZoneAlarm Internet Security Suite 7.1
> but I find that it takes too much time to load on startup and has caused me
> to lose connection to the internet.
>
> Thanks in advance for any help

 

[dean-dean]

Re: Windows Security Centre problem as well

If you are using Windows Live OneCare, then that will turn off Defender and
Windows Firewall, because it uses its own program for that. If you haven't
installed OneCare, then try this:

Right-click Command Prompt (in Start Menu\Programs\Accessories) and Run as
Administrator. Type (or Copy and Paste) the following command:

winmgmt /verifyrepository

If the system returns "WMI repository is not consistent", type this command:

winmgmt /salvagerepository

The first time you run this it will fail. It will issue stop commands to
the services causing it to fail (saying, "A stop control has been sent to a
service that other running services are dependent on"). It might take a
couple minutes for the services to shut down. Run the last command again.
You actually may have to run it 3 times before it finally runs and completes
on its own.


"Daniel Hirons" <DanielHirons@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:CF5D06B1-4C6E-42CA-8C23-47D18AA18671@microsoft.com...
> Yes, that's exactly the same as what I initially got. It said that my
> firewall was turned off so I turned it back on - and that sorted the
> problem.
> However, I am getting the same problem as you with the windows defender
> because Norton antivirus is saying that my computer is safe and windwos
> defender also says that everything is working but I still get it saying
> that
> there is no widnwos defender on the security centre. But to be honest why
> should I have to unistall Norton Antivirus when I've paid £20 for it and
> it
> says that it does work on Windows Vista?
> --
> Dan
>
>
> "AMM" wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I've just experienced the exact same problem as Daniel Hirons had in my
>> activated Windows Vista Ultimate Edition. I've been using activated
>> Norton
>> 360 for the past few months now with no problems so far, when earlier
>> today I
>> was alerted with a Windows Security Center notification. I checked the
>> Security Center to find two red alerts: one relating to Windows Firewall
>> turned off the other, to lack of virus protection as well as Windows
>> Defender turned off. This is strange as these warnings have appeared in
>> spite
>> of Norton 360 on green condition, stating that my PC is being protected
>> Windows Defender also gives a thumbs up, stating that my "computer is
>> running
>> normally". This is the first time I have received such warnings and as I
>> try
>> turning on Windows Defender, I am informed that there are no new updates
>> available at the moment and the program remains not functioning. So what
>> I
>> did was I ran System Restore twice: one to the latest Windows Update
>> restore
>> point the other to the latest System Scheduled restore point. However,
>> both
>> attempts have resulted with failure, saying that windows settings have
>> not
>> been restored.
>>
>> Just as additional points, I am quite a fan of utorrent and downloading
>> numerous programs, with caution of course, and my wife is quite an online
>> game addict. Most of the time I'm online, connected through DSL with an
>> Edimax router. Additionally, I have two other spyware protection (not
>> real-time) which I've downloaded from download.com and run them rather
>> occasionally for safety.
>>
>> I hope I will soon receive some help since at the moment I am quite loyal
>> to
>> Norton 360. I could have transfered to ZoneAlarm Internet Security Suite
>> 7.1
>> but I find that it takes too much time to load on startup and has caused
>> me
>> to lose connection to the internet.
>>
>> Thanks in advance for any help

 

[AMM]

Re: Windows Security Centre problem as well

Hi

Thanks dean-dean for your response.

I've followed your instructions and have finally come to a point where I
receive a "WMI repository is consistent", having gone through the
"salvagerepository" step. This has helped in ensuring that the Security
Center recognizes Windows Defender as functioning. However, it has not aided
in recognizing Norton 360. As such, I am compelled to resort to security
freeware, as recommended by PCworld.com, such as Avast Anti-virus, ZoneAlarm
Firewall in addition to SpywareBlaster as well as Spybot - S&D. I still have
my Norton 360 product key should I wish to reinstall it though.

It very well seems that brink is right in saying that "Norton has been known
to cause problems with Vista." At present, the Security Center is running as
it should, reporting that I now have Firewall as well as Malware Protection.

Thanks to all who've helped so far

"dean-dean" wrote:

> If you are using Windows Live OneCare, then that will turn off Defender and
> Windows Firewall, because it uses its own program for that. If you haven't
> installed OneCare, then try this:
>
> Right-click Command Prompt (in Start Menu\Programs\Accessories) and Run as
> Administrator. Type (or Copy and Paste) the following command:
>
> winmgmt /verifyrepository
>
> If the system returns "WMI repository is not consistent", type this command:
>
> winmgmt /salvagerepository
>
> The first time you run this it will fail. It will issue stop commands to
> the services causing it to fail (saying, "A stop control has been sent to a
> service that other running services are dependent on"). It might take a
> couple minutes for the services to shut down. Run the last command again.
> You actually may have to run it 3 times before it finally runs and completes
> on its own.
>

 

[PWB]

Re: Windows Security Centre problem as well

"dean-dean" wrote:

> If you are using Windows Live OneCare, then that will turn off Defender and
> Windows Firewall, because it uses its own program for that. If you haven't
> installed OneCare, then try this:
>
> Right-click Command Prompt (in Start Menu\Programs\Accessories) and Run as
> Administrator. Type (or Copy and Paste) the following
> winmgmt /verifyrepository

Forgivive myignorence how do you run it as, Administrator please

>
> If the system returns "WMI repository is not consistent", type this command:
>
> winmgmt /salvagerepository
>
> The first time you run this it will fail. It will issue stop commands to
> the services causing it to fail (saying, "A stop control has been sent to a
> service that other running services are dependent on"). It might take a
> couple minutes for the services to shut down. Run the last command again.
> You actually may have to run it 3 times before it finally runs and completes
> on its own.
>
>
> "Daniel Hirons" <DanielHirons@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:CF5D06B1-4C6E-42CA-8C23-47D18AA18671@microsoft.com...
> > Yes, that's exactly the same as what I initially got. It said that my
> > firewall was turned off so I turned it back on - and that sorted the
> > problem.
> > However, I am getting the same problem as you with the windows defender
> > because Norton antivirus is saying that my computer is safe and windwos
> > defender also says that everything is working but I still get it saying
> > that
> > there is no widnwos defender on the security centre. But to be honest why
> > should I have to unistall Norton Antivirus when I've paid £20 for it and
> > it
> > says that it does work on Windows Vista?
> > --
> > Dan
> >
> >
> > "AMM" wrote:
> >
> >> Hi all,
> >>
> >> I've just experienced the exact same problem as Daniel Hirons had in my
> >> activated Windows Vista Ultimate Edition. I've been using activated
> >> Norton
> >> 360 for the past few months now with no problems so far, when earlier
> >> today I
> >> was alerted with a Windows Security Center notification. I checked the
> >> Security Center to find two red alerts: one relating to Windows Firewall
> >> turned off the other, to lack of virus protection as well as Windows
> >> Defender turned off. This is strange as these warnings have appeared in
> >> spite
> >> of Norton 360 on green condition, stating that my PC is being protected
> >> Windows Defender also gives a thumbs up, stating that my "computer is
> >> running
> >> normally". This is the first time I have received such warnings and as I
> >> try
> >> turning on Windows Defender, I am informed that there are no new updates
> >> available at the moment and the program remains not functioning. So what
> >> I
> >> did was I ran System Restore twice: one to the latest Windows Update
> >> restore
> >> point the other to the latest System Scheduled restore point. However,
> >> both
> >> attempts have resulted with failure, saying that windows settings have
> >> not
> >> been restored.
> >>
> >> Just as additional points, I am quite a fan of utorrent and downloading
> >> numerous programs, with caution of course, and my wife is quite an online
> >> game addict. Most of the time I'm online, connected through DSL with an
> >> Edimax router. Additionally, I have two other spyware protection (not
> >> real-time) which I've downloaded from download.com and run them rather
> >> occasionally for safety.
> >>
> >> I hope I will soon receive some help since at the moment I am quite loyal
> >> to
> >> Norton 360. I could have transfered to ZoneAlarm Internet Security Suite
> >> 7.1
> >> but I find that it takes too much time to load on startup and has caused
> >> me
> >> to lose connection to the internet.
> >>
> >> Thanks in advance for any help
>
>

 

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PWB404724 Wrote:
> "dean-dean" wrote:
>
> > If you are using Windows Live OneCare, then that will turn off
> Defender and
> > Windows Firewall, because it uses its own program for that. If you
> haven't
> > installed OneCare, then try this:
> >
> > Right-click Command Prompt (in Start Menu\Programs\Accessories) and
> Run as
> > Administrator. Type (or Copy and Paste) the following
> > winmgmt /verifyrepository
>
> Forgivive myignorence how do you run it as, Administrator please
>
>

Hi PWD,

After you right click Command Prompt shortcut, click "Run as
Administrator"

Shawn


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[PWB]

"brink" wrote:

>
> PWB404724 Wrote:
> > "dean-dean" wrote:
> >
> > > If you are using Windows Live OneCare, then that will turn off
> > Defender and
> > > Windows Firewall, because it uses its own program for that. If you
> > haven't
> > > installed OneCare, then try this:
> > >
> > > Right-click Command Prompt (in Start Menu\Programs\Accessories) and
> > Run as
> > > Administrator. Type (or Copy and Paste) the following
> > > winmgmt /verifyrepository
> >
> > Forgivive myignorence how do you run it as, Administrator please
> >
> >
>
> Hi PWD,
>
> After you right click Command Prompt shortcut, click "Run as
> Administrator"
>
> Shawn
>
>
> --
> brink
>
> *There are no dumb questions, just the people that do not ask them.*
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> Thanks I did the first command and it showed consistent so i did the other one to turn security center off then turned it back on but still defender showed it wasnt on although it said in defender it was ok , and still security center couldnt find my A/V but thanks for the idea it was worth a try

 

[Daniel Hirons]

I have recently been unable to log on so sorry for not saying anything for a
few days. A day after installing my norton antivirus my computer would not go
onto windows and said that it was corrupt so I have had to install windows
vista all again and install all of my programs as well. A nightmare!
--
Dan


"PWB" wrote:

>
>
> "brink" wrote:
>
> >
> > PWB404724 Wrote:
> > > "dean-dean" wrote:
> > >
> > > > If you are using Windows Live OneCare, then that will turn off
> > > Defender and
> > > > Windows Firewall, because it uses its own program for that. If you
> > > haven't
> > > > installed OneCare, then try this:
> > > >
> > > > Right-click Command Prompt (in Start Menu\Programs\Accessories) and
> > > Run as
> > > > Administrator. Type (or Copy and Paste) the following
> > > > winmgmt /verifyrepository
> > >
> > > Forgivive myignorence how do you run it as, Administrator please
> > >
> > >
> >
> > Hi PWD,
> >
> > After you right click Command Prompt shortcut, click "Run as
> > Administrator"
> >
> > Shawn
> >
> >
> > --
> > brink
> >
> > *There are no dumb questions, just the people that do not ask them.*
> > _http://www.vistax64.com/ (\"http://www.vistax64.com/\")_
> > *Please post feedback to help others.*
> > Thanks I did the first command and it showed consistent so i did the other one to turn security center off then turned it back on but still defender showed it wasnt on although it said in defender it was ok , and still security center couldnt find my A/V but thanks for the idea it was worth a try

 

[dean-dean]

Hi PWD. You could try this.

Right-click Command Prompt and Run as Administrator (this is important), as
you have done before. Type (or Copy and
Paste) the following commands, pressing Enter after each one:

net stop winmgmt

cd %windir%\system32\wbem

ren repository repository.old

net start winmgmt

After doing these four commands, close Command Prompt. The commands will
force WindowsManagement to rebuild the Repository. Restart your computer.

"PWB" wrote in message
news:97075909-BD8B-4E7B-A373-834CF60DDB66@microsoft.com...
>
>
> "brink" wrote:
>
>>
>> PWB404724 Wrote:
>> > "dean-dean" wrote:
>> >
>> > > If you are using Windows Live OneCare, then that will turn off
>> > Defender and
>> > > Windows Firewall, because it uses its own program for that. If you
>> > haven't
>> > > installed OneCare, then try this:
>> > >
>> > > Right-click Command Prompt (in Start Menu\Programs\Accessories) and
>> > Run as
>> > > Administrator. Type (or Copy and Paste) the following
>> > > winmgmt /verifyrepository
>> >
>> > Forgivive myignorence how do you run it as, Administrator please
>> >
>> >
>>
>> Hi PWD,
>>
>> After you right click Command Prompt shortcut, click "Run as
>> Administrator"
>>
>> Shawn
>>
>>
>> --
>> brink
>>
>> *There are no dumb questions, just the people that do not ask them.*
>> _http://www.vistax64.com/ (\"http://www.vistax64.com/\")_
>> *Please post feedback to help others.*
>> Thanks I did the first command and it showed consistent so i did the
>> other one to turn security center off then turned it back on but still
>> defender showed it wasnt on although it said in defender it was ok , and
>> still security center couldnt find my A/V but thanks for the idea it was
>> worth a try

 

[brink]

Daniel Hirons406985 Wrote:
> I have recently been unable to log on so sorry for not saying anything
> for a
> few days. A day after installing my norton antivirus my computer would
> not go
> onto windows and said that it was corrupt so I have had to install
> windows
> vista all again and install all of my programs as well. A nightmare!
> --
> Dan
>
>

Dan,

I'm sorry to hear that. I hope you are up and running again now. That
Norton has been messing up everything on Vista.

Shawn


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