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when i start up my computer and go e mail it says connecting i then close e
mail and go to internet explorer it says web site found nothing happens on
either i then restart the computer and all works well this happens almost
daily any advice would be appreciated as microsoft is no help at all. i am
sorry i bought this new computer vista never had a problem with windows xp. i
think vista has bugs and microsoft will not admit it the computer is 1 year
old and out of warrenty.
 
On Jun 4, 11:32 am, "TONY123" <u44058@uwe> wrote:
> when i start up my computer and go e mail it says connecting i then close e
> mail and go to internet explorer it says web site found  nothing happens on
> either i then restart the computer and all works well this happens almost
> daily any advice would be appreciated as microsoft is no help at all. i am
> sorry i bought this new computer vista never had a problem with windows xp.. i
> think vista has bugs and microsoft will not admit it the computer is 1 year
> old and out of warrenty.


Is your computer a laptop or a desktop? Does this happen after sleep,
hibernate or inactivity? Are you connected directly to a DSL modem or
a cable modem? Are you using a wireless connection to a router or a
direct ethernet connection? What brand is your router? Is it
configured to keep your Internet connection alive? What are your
mobility settings? Are the power settings set correctly, or does your
wireless and/or ethernet go to sleep? Are you plugged-in or on battery
power?

There are too many possible differences between your new PC hardware
and configuration settings to simply blame Vista or believe that
installing XP on your now 1 year old computer would solve the problem.

If you would like help, please describe your setup.

-solon fox
 
Why did you wait 'til it ran out of Warranty to ask?
--
Mick Murphy - Qld - Australia


"TONY123" wrote:

> when i start up my computer and go e mail it says connecting i then close e
> mail and go to internet explorer it says web site found nothing happens on
> either i then restart the computer and all works well this happens almost
> daily any advice would be appreciated as microsoft is no help at all. i am
> sorry i bought this new computer vista never had a problem with windows xp. i
> think vista has bugs and microsoft will not admit it the computer is 1 year
> old and out of warrenty.
>
>
 
solon fox wrote:
>> when i start up my computer and go e mail it says connecting i then close e
>> mail and go to internet explorer it says web site found  nothing happens on

>[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>> think vista has bugs and microsoft will not admit it the computer is 1 year
>> old and out of warrenty.

>
>Is your computer a laptop or a desktop? Does this happen after sleep,
>hibernate or inactivity? Are you connected directly to a DSL modem or
>a cable modem? Are you using a wireless connection to a router or a
>direct ethernet connection? What brand is your router? Is it
>configured to keep your Internet connection alive? What are your
>mobility settings? Are the power settings set correctly, or does your
>wireless and/or ethernet go to sleep? Are you plugged-in or on battery
>power?
>
>There are too many possible differences between your new PC hardware
>and configuration settings to simply blame Vista or believe that
>installing XP on your now 1 year old computer would solve the problem.
>
>If you would like help, please describe your setup.
>
>-solon fox

THE COMPUTER IS A DESK TOP I USE NO ROUTER I AM HOOKED DIRCTLY TO THE
INTERNET BY A CABEL MODEM THIS HAPPENS AFTER I START IT UP IN THE MORNING FOR
THE FIRST TIME I KEEP IT ON ALL DAY AND SHUT IT DOWN AT NITE IT ALWAYS WORKS
AFTER I RE START IT AND IS GOOD ALL DAYYOU SAID POWER SETTINGS COULD YOU
EXPLAIN I HAVE IT SET TO SAVE POWER SETTING THIS STARTED AFTER THE WARRENTY
RAN OUT.

--
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http://www.windowskb.com/Uwe/Forums.aspx/windows-vista/200806/1
 
Mick Murphy wrote:
>Why did you wait 'til it ran out of Warranty to ask?
>> when i start up my computer and go e mail it says connecting i then close e
>> mail and go to internet explorer it says web site found nothing happens on

>[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>> think vista has bugs and microsoft will not admit it the computer is 1 year
>> old and out of warrenty.



THE PROBLEM STARTED WHEN THE WARRENTY RAN OUT AND HAS BEEN THIS WAY FOR A
MONTH BEFORE THAT IT WORKED GREAT

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On Jun 4, 5:28 pm, "TONY123 via WindowsKB.com" <u44058@uwe> wrote:
> solon fox wrote:
> >> when i start up my computer and go e mail it says connecting i then close e
> >> mail and go to internet explorer it says web site found  nothing happens on

> >[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> >> think vista has bugs and microsoft will not admit it the computer is 1 year
> >> old and out of warrenty.

>
> >Is your computer a laptop or a desktop? Does this happen after sleep,
> >hibernate or inactivity? Are you connected directly to a DSL modem or
> >a cable modem? Are you using a wireless connection to a router or a
> >direct ethernet connection? What brand is your router? Is it
> >configured to keep your Internet connection alive? What are your
> >mobility settings? Are the power settings set correctly, or does your
> >wireless and/or ethernet go to sleep? Are you plugged-in or on battery
> >power?

>
> >There are too many possible differences between your new PC hardware
> >and configuration settings to simply blame Vista or believe that
> >installing XP on your now 1 year old computer would solve the problem.

>
> >If you would like help, please describe your setup.

>
> >-solon fox

>
> THE COMPUTER IS A DESK TOP I USE NO ROUTER I AM HOOKED DIRCTLY TO THE
> INTERNET BY A CABEL MODEM THIS HAPPENS AFTER I START IT UP IN THE MORNING FOR
> THE FIRST TIME I KEEP IT ON ALL DAY AND SHUT IT DOWN AT NITE IT ALWAYS WORKS
> AFTER I RE START IT AND IS GOOD ALL DAYYOU SAID POWER SETTINGS COULD YOU
> EXPLAIN I HAVE IT SET TO SAVE POWER SETTING THIS STARTED AFTER THE WARRENTY
> RAN OUT.
>
> --
> Message posted via WindowsKB.comhttp://www.windowskb.com/Uwe/Forums.aspx/windows-vista/200806/1- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -


Thanks. Okay, you've just eliminated a whole slew of possibilities.
Now we are down to a) something that changed in Vista in the last
month and b) problems with your cable modem or ISP.

Let's try the easy stuff first:
Just some ideas do any/all or none as it suits you.
- replace the cable between your desktop and the cable modem with a
different one
- go to Control Panel and Power Options and do the anti-green thing
and set everything to always on (eliminate problems with sleep and
hibernate mode) we especially don't want the ethernet card, the
network or the hard drive to ever sleep.Change your plan to "High
Performance" for now.

There's a power settings tutorial here, if you need a guide
http://www.thegline.com/windows/2006/12/the-xp-users-guide-to-windows-6.html

Since the problem started a month ago, it could be solved with a
System Restore, if you have one old enough (probably not).

I cannot think of a way that a driver could cause this problem - it
seems remote, but something to consider.

We can't rule out the possibility that something changed with your
cable provider, though their tech support is notoriously unhelpful
regardless of the company, you could give them a try.

The thought of disabling IPV6 occurs to me, but I'm not going to
recommend it as it would really only save you a millisecond on
connecting.

Do this only after the problem occurs: Go to Control Panel, key
"Network Connections" in the search box and select "View Network
Connections" highlight Local Area Connection and disable it. Wait 10
seconds and enable it. That should waste a couple of minutes, but if
it solves the problem then that tells me something about what it is
not in the restart process. Let me know on this one.

-solon fox
 
"TONY123 via WindowsKB.com" <u44058@uwe> wrote in message
news:853042e877691@uwe...
> solon fox wrote:
>>> when i start up my computer and go e mail it says connecting i then
>>> close e
>>> mail and go to internet explorer it says web site found nothing happens
>>> on

>>[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>>> think vista has bugs and microsoft will not admit it the computer is 1
>>> year
>>> old and out of warrenty.

>>
>>Is your computer a laptop or a desktop? Does this happen after sleep,
>>hibernate or inactivity? Are you connected directly to a DSL modem or
>>a cable modem? Are you using a wireless connection to a router or a
>>direct ethernet connection? What brand is your router? Is it
>>configured to keep your Internet connection alive? What are your
>>mobility settings? Are the power settings set correctly, or does your
>>wireless and/or ethernet go to sleep? Are you plugged-in or on battery
>>power?
>>
>>There are too many possible differences between your new PC hardware
>>and configuration settings to simply blame Vista or believe that
>>installing XP on your now 1 year old computer would solve the problem.
>>
>>If you would like help, please describe your setup.
>>
>>-solon fox

> THE COMPUTER IS A DESK TOP I USE NO ROUTER I AM HOOKED DIRCTLY TO THE
> INTERNET BY A CABEL MODEM THIS HAPPENS AFTER I START IT UP IN THE MORNING
> FOR
> THE FIRST TIME I KEEP IT ON ALL DAY AND SHUT IT DOWN AT NITE IT ALWAYS
> WORKS
> AFTER I RE START IT AND IS GOOD ALL DAYYOU SAID POWER SETTINGS COULD YOU
> EXPLAIN I HAVE IT SET TO SAVE POWER SETTING THIS STARTED AFTER THE
> WARRENTY
> RAN OUT.



Make sure the modem is fully powered up before starting the computer.

--
Frank Saunders MS-MVP IE,OE/WM
Do not reply with email
 
solon fox wrote:
>> >> when i start up my computer and go e mail it says connecting i then close e
>> >> mail and go to internet explorer it says web site found  nothing happens on

>[quoted text clipped - 30 lines]
>>
>> - Show quoted text -

>
>Thanks. Okay, you've just eliminated a whole slew of possibilities.
>Now we are down to a) something that changed in Vista in the last
>month and b) problems with your cable modem or ISP.
>
>Let's try the easy stuff first:
>Just some ideas do any/all or none as it suits you.
>- replace the cable between your desktop and the cable modem with a
>different one
>- go to Control Panel and Power Options and do the anti-green thing
>and set everything to always on (eliminate problems with sleep and
>hibernate mode) we especially don't want the ethernet card, the
>network or the hard drive to ever sleep.Change your plan to "High
>Performance" for now.
>
>There's a power settings tutorial here, if you need a guide
>http://www.thegline.com/windows/2006/12/the-xp-users-guide-to-windows-6.html
>
>Since the problem started a month ago, it could be solved with a
>System Restore, if you have one old enough (probably not).
>
>I cannot think of a way that a driver could cause this problem - it
>seems remote, but something to consider.
>
>We can't rule out the possibility that something changed with your
>cable provider, though their tech support is notoriously unhelpful
>regardless of the company, you could give them a try.
>
>The thought of disabling IPV6 occurs to me, but I'm not going to
>recommend it as it would really only save you a millisecond on
>connecting.
>
>Do this only after the problem occurs: Go to Control Panel, key
>"Network Connections" in the search box and select "View Network
>Connections" highlight Local Area Connection and disable it. Wait 10
>seconds and enable it. That should waste a couple of minutes, but if
>it solves the problem then that tells me something about what it is
>not in the restart process. Let me know on this one.
>
>-solon fox

i followed your advice changed the cabel hook up with a new one and set the
power settings as you described however i can not find anetwork connections
in my control panel do it ave a different name on tis computer, also i was on
the phone with my isp for an hour they tryed many things and then said it was
in my software. i also did a full factory restore it was built ito my
computer and several system restores it worked for a week then went back to
doing the same i will let you know in a few days if the things you said
helped if not its back to the same. thank you for you help

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On Jun 5, 7:41 am, "TONY123 via WindowsKB.com" <u44058@uwe> wrote:
> solon fox wrote:
> >> >> when i start up my computer and go e mail it says connecting i then close e
> >> >> mail and go to internet explorer it says web site found  nothing happens on

> >[quoted text clipped - 30 lines]

>
> >> - Show quoted text -

>
> >Thanks. Okay, you've just eliminated a whole slew of possibilities.
> >Now we are down to a) something that changed in Vista in the last
> >month and b) problems with your cable modem or ISP.

>
> >Let's try the easy stuff first:
> >Just some ideas do any/all or none as it suits you.
> >- replace the cable between your desktop and the cable modem with a
> >different one
> >- go to Control Panel and Power Options and do the anti-green thing
> >and set everything to always on (eliminate problems with sleep and
> >hibernate mode) we especially don't want the ethernet card, the
> >network or the hard drive to ever sleep.Change your plan to "High
> >Performance" for now.

>
> >There's a power settings tutorial here, if you need a guide
> >http://www.thegline.com/windows/2006/12/the-xp-users-guide-to-windows...

>
> >Since the problem started a month ago, it could be solved with a
> >System Restore, if you have one old enough (probably not).

>
> >I cannot think of a way that a driver could cause this problem - it
> >seems remote, but something to consider.

>
> >We can't rule out the possibility that something changed with your
> >cable provider, though their tech support is notoriously unhelpful
> >regardless of the company, you could give them a try.

>
> >The thought of disabling IPV6 occurs to me, but I'm not going to
> >recommend it as it would really only save you a millisecond on
> >connecting.

>
> >Do this only after the problem occurs: Go to Control Panel, key
> >"Network Connections" in the search box and select "View Network
> >Connections" highlight Local Area Connection and disable it. Wait 10
> >seconds and enable it. That should waste a couple of minutes, but if
> >it solves the problem then that tells me something about what it is
> >not in the restart process. Let me know on this one.

>
> >-solon fox

>
> i followed your advice changed the cabel hook up with a new one and set the
> power settings as you described however i can not find anetwork connections
> in my control panel do it ave a different name on tis computer, also i was on
> the phone with my isp for an hour they tryed many things and then said it was
> in my software. i also did a full factory restore it was built ito my
> computer and several system restores it worked for a week then went back to
> doing the same i will let you know in a few days if the things you said
> helped if not its back to the same. thank you for you help
>
> --
> Message posted viahttp://www.windowskb.com- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -


In my view, these kinds of problems are very difficult to diagnose
because the tools they have given us don't help much. There is another
way to get to the Network Connections properties, Control Panel
\Network and Internet\Network Connections.

Go to Control Panel->Network and Internet->Network and Sharing Center,
in the left-hand pane select "Manage network connections". Disabling
and enabling the 'Local Area Connection' as a manual workaround is
time consuming and inefficient. What it does is knocks out your
network card and then refreshes it. The same thing happens when you
restart your computer. If doing this doesn't bring your Internet
connection back, then the problem is definitely with the cable modem.
Regardless of what your cable provider may tell you, the simplest fix
is a firmware upgrade to the cable modem. They could send a technician
out to do that, but we all know how impatient and unreliable their
tech support is. I mean, are they going to send a guy out to watch all
day long until the problem appears? I think not. There is software
that they can run on their end to trap the problem, but the tech
support you usually talk to only knows the script they tell them to
use. You'd have to break through to 'level 3' support before you'd
talk to anyone with the slightest chance of helping you.

But, it is highly unlikely based on your descriptions that resetting
the connection through Network Connections would not reestablish a
valid connection - so, I shouldn't trash the cable company tech
support too much.

The only reasons I can think of that restoring you PC to its original
state as you have done would fix the problem are that Windows Update
either updated the TCP/IP stack or you applied a driver update to the
NIC. In either case, I'd be going right back to the cable modem or the
ISP gateway. You may never know the actual cause if that is the case
because the cable company won't notify you of any patches they apply.

When you talked to the cable tech support, they should have tested the
cable modem and checked the firmware with your help. You could insist
on a new cable modem, but there is no guarantee that they would give
you one with a higher-level of firmware. It may just mysteriously fix
itself someday. There is an off chance that the Cat V cable between
your modem and your PC was bad and the problem is now fixed.

A NIC card should never sleep when connected and on a desktop that is
plugged in. That's why I suggested the aggressive power settings,
besides you're in the habit of shutting down when you're through for
the day anyways.

Although, you must be frustrated I'd still like to know of any changes
in your status.

-solon fox
 
On Jun 5, 8:59 am, solon fox <solon...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Jun 5, 7:41 am, "TONY123 via WindowsKB.com" <u44058@uwe> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > solon fox wrote:
> > >> >> when i start up my computer and go e mail it says connecting i then close e
> > >> >> mail and go to internet explorer it says web site found  nothing happens on
> > >[quoted text clipped - 30 lines]

>
> > >> - Show quoted text -

>
> > >Thanks. Okay, you've just eliminated a whole slew of possibilities.
> > >Now we are down to a) something that changed in Vista in the last
> > >month and b) problems with your cable modem or ISP.

>
> > >Let's try the easy stuff first:
> > >Just some ideas do any/all or none as it suits you.
> > >- replace the cable between your desktop and the cable modem with a
> > >different one
> > >- go to Control Panel and Power Options and do the anti-green thing
> > >and set everything to always on (eliminate problems with sleep and
> > >hibernate mode) we especially don't want the ethernet card, the
> > >network or the hard drive to ever sleep.Change your plan to "High
> > >Performance" for now.

>
> > >There's a power settings tutorial here, if you need a guide
> > >http://www.thegline.com/windows/2006/12/the-xp-users-guide-to-windows....

>
> > >Since the problem started a month ago, it could be solved with a
> > >System Restore, if you have one old enough (probably not).

>
> > >I cannot think of a way that a driver could cause this problem - it
> > >seems remote, but something to consider.

>
> > >We can't rule out the possibility that something changed with your
> > >cable provider, though their tech support is notoriously unhelpful
> > >regardless of the company, you could give them a try.

>
> > >The thought of disabling IPV6 occurs to me, but I'm not going to
> > >recommend it as it would really only save you a millisecond on
> > >connecting.

>
> > >Do this only after the problem occurs: Go to Control Panel, key
> > >"Network Connections" in the search box and select "View Network
> > >Connections" highlight Local Area Connection and disable it. Wait 10
> > >seconds and enable it. That should waste a couple of minutes, but if
> > >it solves the problem then that tells me something about what it is
> > >not in the restart process. Let me know on this one.

>
> > >-solon fox

>
> > i followed your advice changed the cabel hook up with a new one and set the
> > power settings as you described however i can not find anetwork connections
> > in my control panel do it ave a different name on tis computer, also i was on
> > the phone with my isp for an hour they tryed many things and then said it was
> > in my software. i also did a full factory restore it was built ito my
> > computer and several system restores it worked for a week then went back to
> > doing the same i will let you know in a few days if the things you said
> > helped if not its back to the same. thank you for you help

>
> > --
> > Message posted viahttp://www.windowskb.com-Hide quoted text -

>
> > - Show quoted text -

>
> In my view, these kinds of problems are very difficult to diagnose
> because the tools they have given us don't help much. There is another
> way to get to the Network Connections properties, Control Panel
> \Network and Internet\Network Connections.
>
> Go to Control Panel->Network and Internet->Network and Sharing Center,
> in the left-hand pane select "Manage network connections". Disabling
> and enabling the 'Local Area Connection' as a manual workaround is
> time consuming and inefficient. What it does is knocks out your
> network card and then refreshes it. The same thing happens when you
> restart your computer. If doing this doesn't bring your Internet
> connection back, then the problem is definitely with the cable modem.
> Regardless of what your cable provider may tell you, the simplest fix
> is a firmware upgrade to the cable modem. They could send a technician
> out to do that, but we all know how impatient and unreliable their
> tech support is. I mean, are they going to send a guy out to watch all
> day long until the problem appears? I think not. There is software
> that they can run on their end to trap the problem, but the tech
> support you usually talk to only knows the script they tell them to
> use. You'd have to break through to 'level 3' support before you'd
> talk to anyone with the slightest chance of helping you.
>
> But, it is highly unlikely based on your descriptions that resetting
> the connection through Network Connections would not reestablish a
> valid connection - so, I shouldn't trash the cable company tech
> support too much.
>
> The only reasons I can think of that restoring you PC to its original
> state as you have done would fix the problem are that Windows Update
> either updated the TCP/IP stack or you applied a driver update to the
> NIC. In either case, I'd be going right back to the cable modem or the
> ISP gateway. You may never know the actual cause if that is the case
> because the cable company won't notify you of any patches they apply.
>
> When you talked to the cable tech support, they should have tested the
> cable modem and checked the firmware with your help. You could insist
> on a new cable modem, but there is no guarantee that they would give
> you one with a higher-level of firmware. It may just mysteriously fix
> itself someday. There is an off chance that the Cat V cable between
> your modem and your PC was bad and the problem is now fixed.
>
> A NIC card should never sleep when connected and on a desktop that is
> plugged in. That's why I suggested the aggressive power settings,
> besides you're in the habit of shutting down when you're through for
> the day anyways.
>
> Although, you must be frustrated I'd still like to know of any changes
> in your status.
>
> -solon fox- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -


Tony,

FYI - I went through a similar situation with the cable company and
dropped Internet connections. Months went by getting nowhere with
them, yet in the end they finally did fess up and fixed a problem with
a router on their end.

-solon fox
 
solon fox wrote:
>> >> >> when i start up my computer and go e mail it says connecting i then close e
>> >> >> mail and go to internet explorer it says web site found  nothing happens on

>[quoted text clipped - 55 lines]
>>
>> - Show quoted text -

>
>In my view, these kinds of problems are very difficult to diagnose
>because the tools they have given us don't help much. There is another
>way to get to the Network Connections properties, Control Panel
>\Network and Internet\Network Connections.
>
>Go to Control Panel->Network and Internet->Network and Sharing Center,
>in the left-hand pane select "Manage network connections". Disabling
>and enabling the 'Local Area Connection' as a manual workaround is
>time consuming and inefficient. What it does is knocks out your
>network card and then refreshes it. The same thing happens when you
>restart your computer. If doing this doesn't bring your Internet
>connection back, then the problem is definitely with the cable modem.
>Regardless of what your cable provider may tell you, the simplest fix
>is a firmware upgrade to the cable modem. They could send a technician
>out to do that, but we all know how impatient and unreliable their
>tech support is. I mean, are they going to send a guy out to watch all
>day long until the problem appears? I think not. There is software
>that they can run on their end to trap the problem, but the tech
>support you usually talk to only knows the script they tell them to
>use. You'd have to break through to 'level 3' support before you'd
>talk to anyone with the slightest chance of helping you.
>
>But, it is highly unlikely based on your descriptions that resetting
>the connection through Network Connections would not reestablish a
>valid connection - so, I shouldn't trash the cable company tech
>support too much.
>
>The only reasons I can think of that restoring you PC to its original
>state as you have done would fix the problem are that Windows Update
>either updated the TCP/IP stack or you applied a driver update to the
>NIC. In either case, I'd be going right back to the cable modem or the
>ISP gateway. You may never know the actual cause if that is the case
>because the cable company won't notify you of any patches they apply.
>
>When you talked to the cable tech support, they should have tested the
>cable modem and checked the firmware with your help. You could insist
>on a new cable modem, but there is no guarantee that they would give
>you one with a higher-level of firmware. It may just mysteriously fix
>itself someday. There is an off chance that the Cat V cable between
>your modem and your PC was bad and the problem is now fixed.
>
>A NIC card should never sleep when connected and on a desktop that is
>plugged in. That's why I suggested the aggressive power settings,
>besides you're in the habit of shutting down when you're through for
>the day anyways.
>
>Although, you must be frustrated I'd still like to know of any changes
>in your status.
>
>-solon fox

solon,
i found the network sharing center and did as you advised with all 3 steps
you said to try it still does the same thing today i shut down and re started
about 6 times and 4 out of 6 it did not connect or allow me to go to the
internet i am going to have a word with the cabel co about this firmware
upgrade and let you know what they say once again thanks for your help you do
know a lot about computers i would also like your opinion about apple i am
thinking of going to them and getting away from microsoft.

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On Jun 5, 5:54 pm, "TONY123 via WindowsKB.com" <u44058@uwe> wrote:
> solon fox wrote:
> >> >> >> when i start up my computer and go e mail it says connecting i then close e
> >> >> >> mail and go to internet explorer it says web site found  nothing happens on

> >[quoted text clipped - 55 lines]

>
> >> - Show quoted text -

>
> >In my view, these kinds of problems are very difficult to diagnose
> >because the tools they have given us don't help much. There is another
> >way to get to the Network Connections properties, Control Panel
> >\Network and Internet\Network Connections.

>
> >Go to Control Panel->Network and Internet->Network and Sharing Center,
> >in the left-hand pane select "Manage network connections". Disabling
> >and enabling the 'Local Area Connection' as a manual workaround is
> >time consuming and inefficient. What it does is knocks out your
> >network card and then refreshes it. The same thing happens when you
> >restart your computer. If doing this doesn't bring your Internet
> >connection back, then the problem is definitely with the cable modem.
> >Regardless of what your cable provider may tell you, the simplest fix
> >is a firmware upgrade to the cable modem. They could send a technician
> >out to do that, but we all know how impatient and unreliable their
> >tech support is. I mean, are they going to send a guy out to watch all
> >day long until the problem appears? I think not. There is software
> >that they can run on their end to trap the problem, but the tech
> >support you usually talk to only knows the script they tell them to
> >use. You'd have to break through to 'level 3' support before you'd
> >talk to anyone with the slightest chance of helping you.

>
> >But, it is highly unlikely based on your descriptions that resetting
> >the connection through Network Connections would not reestablish a
> >valid connection - so, I shouldn't trash the cable company tech
> >support too much.

>
> >The only reasons I can think of that restoring you PC to its original
> >state as you have done would fix the problem are that Windows Update
> >either updated the TCP/IP stack or you applied a driver update to the
> >NIC. In either case, I'd be going right back to the cable modem or the
> >ISP gateway. You may never know the actual cause if that is the case
> >because the cable company won't notify you of any patches they apply.

>
> >When you talked to the cable tech support, they should have tested the
> >cable modem and checked the firmware with your help. You could insist
> >on a new cable modem, but there is no guarantee that they would give
> >you one with a higher-level of firmware. It may just mysteriously fix
> >itself someday. There is an off chance that the Cat V cable between
> >your modem and your PC was bad and the problem is now fixed.

>
> >A NIC card should never sleep when connected and on a desktop that is
> >plugged in. That's why I suggested the aggressive power settings,
> >besides you're in the habit of shutting down when you're through for
> >the day anyways.

>
> >Although, you must be frustrated I'd still like to know of any changes
> >in your status.

>
> >-solon fox

>
> solon,
> i found the network sharing center and did as you advised with all 3 steps
> you said to try it still does the same thing today i shut down and re started
> about 6 times and 4 out of 6 it did not connect or allow me to go to the
> internet i am going to have a word with the cabel co about this firmware
> upgrade and let you know what they say once again thanks for your help you do
> know a lot about computers i would also like your opinion about apple i am
> thinking of going to them and getting away from microsoft.
>
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Hi Tony,

On the network connection issue, the fact that disabling and enabling
the local area connection does not reestablish the connection and the
fact that restarting sometimes fails to establish a connection
strongly indicate a problem with the cable modem, ISP gateway servers
or ISP routers. When you call the cable company tech support line, the
first people you talk to are level 1 support, they ask basic questions
from a script and usually walk you through activities like checking
your PC configuration and resetting the cable modem. Level 2 support
also works from a script and will walk you through the same stuff as
well as setup an appointment for a service tech. Unless you are very
lucky, none of these guys will run any diagnostics on cable/ISP
equipment (it isn't in their script). Level 3 guys are the people that
really know their stuff. A customer rarely gets to level 3, but they
are the guys who will run traces and network diagnostics and possibly
identify a missing patch or misconfigured router on the ISP side.

I am convinced that your particular problem lies either in the cable
modem 'stay alive' settings, firmware or in the ISP gateway server.
Something is behind on software patches and it isn't you.

As to Apple, Apple is great. People tend to be Apple loyalists. I have
seen the "black screen of death" on Apple computers too. Apple's are
easy to use and intuitive. IMHO, they are a bit more difficult to
troubleshoot because they do such a good job of hiding stuff - or
maybe I just know more about Windows. I stick with Windows because it
is the de facto standard of business and I need to remain as sharp as
possible in that world.

Some people foolishly declare that they 'hate' Windows, they may as
well hate air. Windows is everywhere and if you want to work in our
society, then you will be using Windows - though you may make the
choice to use Apple at home. Even if you don't use Windows yourself,
every time you buy something, somewhere, someone was using Windows to
make it happen.

Apple v. Windows? It isn't even a question. There's no value in
thinking of it as a battle, it isn't. For those that want to use
Apple, go for it - chances are you'll still be using Windows at work.

I've been very happy with my Vista experience, but I've got the right
hardware to run it. Not all those that are having problems with Vista
are underpowered (your particular problem doesn't have anything to do
with your hardware), but many Vista complaints are a result of
inadequate hardware configurations.

-solon fox
 
solon fox wrote:
>> >> >> >> when i start up my computer and go e mail it says connecting i then close e
>> >> >> >> mail and go to internet explorer it says web site found  nothing happens on

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>>
>> - Show quoted text -

>
>Hi Tony,
>
>On the network connection issue, the fact that disabling and enabling
>the local area connection does not reestablish the connection and the
>fact that restarting sometimes fails to establish a connection
>strongly indicate a problem with the cable modem, ISP gateway servers
>or ISP routers. When you call the cable company tech support line, the
>first people you talk to are level 1 support, they ask basic questions
>from a script and usually walk you through activities like checking
>your PC configuration and resetting the cable modem. Level 2 support
>also works from a script and will walk you through the same stuff as
>well as setup an appointment for a service tech. Unless you are very
>lucky, none of these guys will run any diagnostics on cable/ISP
>equipment (it isn't in their script). Level 3 guys are the people that
>really know their stuff. A customer rarely gets to level 3, but they
>are the guys who will run traces and network diagnostics and possibly
>identify a missing patch or misconfigured router on the ISP side.
>
>I am convinced that your particular problem lies either in the cable
>modem 'stay alive' settings, firmware or in the ISP gateway server.
>Something is behind on software patches and it isn't you.
>
>As to Apple, Apple is great. People tend to be Apple loyalists. I have
>seen the "black screen of death" on Apple computers too. Apple's are
>easy to use and intuitive. IMHO, they are a bit more difficult to
>troubleshoot because they do such a good job of hiding stuff - or
>maybe I just know more about Windows. I stick with Windows because it
>is the de facto standard of business and I need to remain as sharp as
>possible in that world.
>
>Some people foolishly declare that they 'hate' Windows, they may as
>well hate air. Windows is everywhere and if you want to work in our
>society, then you will be using Windows - though you may make the
>choice to use Apple at home. Even if you don't use Windows yourself,
>every time you buy something, somewhere, someone was using Windows to
>make it happen.
>
>Apple v. Windows? It isn't even a question. There's no value in
>thinking of it as a battle, it isn't. For those that want to use
>Apple, go for it - chances are you'll still be using Windows at work.
>
>I've been very happy with my Vista experience, but I've got the right
>hardware to run it. Not all those that are having problems with Vista
>are underpowered (your particular problem doesn't have anything to do
>with your hardware), but many Vista complaints are a result of
>inadequate hardware configurations.
>
>-solon fox

solon,
they changed the cabel modem saturday will let you know in a few days what
happens, they were very put out when they asked me why i want it changed. i
told them i have been talking back and forth with someone who knows computers
and it was recommended the girl said do you think that person knows more than
us, i replied yes since i have my computer phone and hi def tv with them i
said change it or good by they were here in 24 hours let you know how it
works thanks.
tony

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solon fox wrote:
>> >> >> >> when i start up my computer and go e mail it says connecting i then close e
>> >> >> >> mail and go to internet explorer it says web site found  nothing happens on

>[quoted text clipped - 66 lines]
>>
>> - Show quoted text -

>
>Hi Tony,
>
>On the network connection issue, the fact that disabling and enabling
>the local area connection does not reestablish the connection and the
>fact that restarting sometimes fails to establish a connection
>strongly indicate a problem with the cable modem, ISP gateway servers
>or ISP routers. When you call the cable company tech support line, the
>first people you talk to are level 1 support, they ask basic questions
>from a script and usually walk you through activities like checking
>your PC configuration and resetting the cable modem. Level 2 support
>also works from a script and will walk you through the same stuff as
>well as setup an appointment for a service tech. Unless you are very
>lucky, none of these guys will run any diagnostics on cable/ISP
>equipment (it isn't in their script). Level 3 guys are the people that
>really know their stuff. A customer rarely gets to level 3, but they
>are the guys who will run traces and network diagnostics and possibly
>identify a missing patch or misconfigured router on the ISP side.
>
>I am convinced that your particular problem lies either in the cable
>modem 'stay alive' settings, firmware or in the ISP gateway server.
>Something is behind on software patches and it isn't you.
>
>As to Apple, Apple is great. People tend to be Apple loyalists. I have
>seen the "black screen of death" on Apple computers too. Apple's are
>easy to use and intuitive. IMHO, they are a bit more difficult to
>troubleshoot because they do such a good job of hiding stuff - or
>maybe I just know more about Windows. I stick with Windows because it
>is the de facto standard of business and I need to remain as sharp as
>possible in that world.
>
>Some people foolishly declare that they 'hate' Windows, they may as
>well hate air. Windows is everywhere and if you want to work in our
>society, then you will be using Windows - though you may make the
>choice to use Apple at home. Even if you don't use Windows yourself,
>every time you buy something, somewhere, someone was using Windows to
>make it happen.
>
>Apple v. Windows? It isn't even a question. There's no value in
>thinking of it as a battle, it isn't. For those that want to use
>Apple, go for it - chances are you'll still be using Windows at work.
>
>I've been very happy with my Vista experience, but I've got the right
>hardware to run it. Not all those that are having problems with Vista
>are underpowered (your particular problem doesn't have anything to do
>with your hardware), but many Vista complaints are a result of
>inadequate hardware configurations.
>
>-solon fox

solon,
looks like changing the modem cured the problem it has worked every day so
far thanks again for your great assistance the cabel co was not happy but it
works that is all that counts.
tony123

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