Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Windows Explorer Crash - need help
On Wed, 12 Dec 2007 14:22:18 -0500, "RalfG" <itsnotme@la-de-da.deda>
wrote:
>Wrong guess, file association isn't broken. A file could concievably have
>the wrong extension in the first place though. GSpot should indicate if the
>file contents didn't match the extension. The problem is still the same as
>before, those specific files that cause Explorer to crash are what's
>damaged. For known media file types Explorer opens the file to extract
>metadata information stored there and create thumbnail images. If there's
>corruption in the data that it can't handle or ignore, Exporer crashes.
>Renaming the file extension only stopped Explorer from trying to read the
>data.
I see your point. How is it then that Xilisoft will make a DVD from
the 'bad' avi clip, using is name with the suffix .avi? I tried demo
Xilisoft as a test and it worked fine. If the file were bad,
shouldn't Xilisoft have balked?
Gecko
>
>"gecko" <alpha@olympus.net> wrote in message
>news:1svvl35rorl93v2oegmbgutj55q6l243qj@4ax.com...
>> On Wed, 12 Dec 2007 08:26:58 -0500, "RalfG" <itsnotme@la-de-da.deda>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>It sounds like the file is damaged somehow. If it is one of your own
>>>creations, redo it. Opening the file in some video editor (VirtualDub,
>>>MediaCoder etc.) then resaving without any changes (aka direct stream
>>>copy)
>>>sometimes works to repair damaged or incorrect file header information.
>>>That may be enough to fix the Explorer errors. VirtualDubMod can be used
>>>to
>>>strip out extra language tracks (if any) that could be problematic. If the
>>>file was downloaded you could try redownloading with file integrity
>>>checking
>>>enabled (use the existing file to save on download time). If that doesn't
>>>show/correct an error in the file then editing it or converting it are the
>>>only other options I can think of short of finding a different copy of the
>>>same video.
>>
>> Thanks again for responses.
>>
>> Since my last post, I have tried something. I downloaded three avi
>> movie clips. All three play just fine in VLC if I run VLC directly
>> and open the avi file. Ditto for Media Player for TWO of the avi
>> files. When I open the third avi file in MP, the error window about
>> having to restart Windows Explorer occurs, BUT it does play in MP.
>> When I run Windows Explorer directly, and click on the three files,
>> two files bring up MP automatically and play without indicating any
>> error, but the same third file blows Windows Explorer, and indicates
>> the SAME error, AND DOES NOT PLAY THE FILE.
>>
>> Now then, I went to Command Prompt (DOS) and renamed the problem file
>> to its same name WITHOUT THE .AVI SUFFIX. When I returned to XP, the
>> problem file plays WITHOUT ANY error in MP (and VLC). Of course,
>> clicking on the file in Windows Explorer does nothing because there is
>> no AVI to associate. This leads me to believe that my problem is in
>> XP's file association. IOW, that the avi file association scheme is
>> broke. Do you have any idea how I can fix that? I'd like to try it
>> just for kicks.
>>
>> Thanks for your patience.
>>
>> Gecko
>>
>>>
>>>"gecko" <alpha@olympus.net> wrote in message
>>>news:k30ul35iplral0lfpdtmf6bhatu5fb05ba@4ax.com...
>>>> On Tue, 11 Dec 2007 15:14:07 -0500, "RalfG" <itsnotme@la-de-da.deda>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>VLC doesn't use the codecs installed in Windows to play the files, WMP
>>>>>does.
>>>>>VLC also has audio, video and subtitle track switching built in while
>>>>>WMP
>>>>>requires 3rd party splitters and other components to handle the same
>>>>>files.
>>>>>Try installing the FFDSHOW filter and see what happens with the file in
>>>>>WMP.
>>>>>It provides (selectable) decoder support for most CODECs you'll run
>>>>>into,
>>>>>track splitting, subtitle support etc. etc.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for your response and info. I downloaded and installed
>>>> FFDSHOW, and things improved somewhat.
>>>>
>>>> First, now I can execute WMP directly, and open in it the problem avi
>>>> file and WMP plays the file with no error indicated.
>>>> Second, when I double click on the problem .avi file in Windows
>>>> Explorer I still get the identical error in Windows Explorer, but now
>>>> the file plays on WMV fine. Before it didn't.
>>>>
>>>> Gecko
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>"gecko" <alpha@olympus.net> wrote in message
>>>>>news:2dmtl319hcelnlkrqcf05dsa94m4n23i80@4ax.com...
>>>>>> On Tue, 11 Dec 2007 07:33:38 -0500, "RalfG" <itsnotme@la-de-da.deda>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Either those particular AVI files are corrupt or there is a
>>>>>>>compatibility
>>>>>>>problem with the codec that is being used to render them. AVI files
>>>>>>>with
>>>>>>>multiple language tracks can sometimes also cause this symptom.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Two tools worth keeping on the computer, GSPOT for examining video
>>>>>>>files
>>>>>>>(identify codecs, problem files) and VLC(Videolan) player for playing
>>>>>>>video
>>>>>>>file formats that WMP doesn't normally support and video files needing
>>>>>>>codecs that you don't have installed.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> VLC plays the problem .avi clips just fine. When I open MediaPlayer
>>>>>> V6 though it also crashes with the same error statement except the
>>>>>> error is said to be in Media Player. Strange. VLC and MP both play
>>>>>> other .avi clips fine.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>"gecko" <alpha@olympus.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>>news:t7vsl3l3pt05gjdkn3qio99ndat46k2mv5@4ax.com...
>>>>>>>> Every time I click on certain files in Windows Explorer, it crashes
>>>>>>>> with the error window WINDOWS EXPLORER HAS ENCOUNTERED A PROBLEM.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It usually happens with large avi files.
>>>>>>>> I am using XP SP2.
>>>>>>>> Can anyone help?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Gecko
>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
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