What happens when more than 26 drives are present?

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XP assigns letters automatically to drives. What happens when more than 26
drives are present?
 
'Talal Itani' wrote:
| XP assigns letters automatically to drives. What happens when more than
26
| drives are present?
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Your Windows drivers license is revoked, and you must apply for a heavy
haulers license B^)

Phil Weldon

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"Talal Itani" <titani@verizon.net> wrote in message
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> XP assigns letters automatically to drives. What happens when more than
26
> drives are present?
>
>


You can have more drives than there are letters in the alphabet...

In XP additional drives can be assigned as folders within an existing drive
 
build another power station?

turn off the heating?

wear sound protection?


"Talal Itani" <titani@verizon.net> wrote in message
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> XP assigns letters automatically to drives. What happens
when more than 26
> drives are present?
>
>
 
Since the most powerfull pc power supply is only slightly more than 900watts,
youd never supply the juice for them,plus how would you connect that many...

"Talal Itani" wrote:

>
> XP assigns letters automatically to drives. What happens when more than 26
> drives are present?
>
>
>
 
Talal Itani wrote:
> XP assigns letters automatically to drives. What happens when more than 26
> drives are present?

If there is no drive letter availlable then a new drive
just does not get one. As any other drive it is then
still accessible thru its volume name, something like
\\?\Volume{2525d0b8-01de-11dc-b4ef-000102b35cc3}\
For instance the file TEST.TXT in the root folder of
the drive could be accessed thru
\\?\Volume{2525d0b8-01de-11dc-b4ef-000102b35cc3}\TEST.TXT

Normal software does not accept this, but if you write
your own Win32 application this would work.


With a 3rd party software as my USB drive letter manager
you could let mount new drives into NTFS folders. Then
the number of drives is limited by the system ressources
only.
http://www.uwe-sieber.de/usbdlm_e.html


Greetings from Germany

Uwe
 
Uwe Sieber wrote:

> With a 3rd party software as my USB drive letter manager
> you could let mount new drives into NTFS folders.

Not to disappoint you, but Windows has this feature built in already
 
jorgen wrote:
> Uwe Sieber wrote:
>
>> With a 3rd party software as my USB drive letter manager
>> you could let mount new drives into NTFS folders.
>
> Not to disappoint you, but Windows has this feature built in already

You can mount manally into NTFS folders but there is definitely
no mechanism build in for mounting drives that appear for the
first time automatically into an NTFS folder.
My software does exactely this if configured that way.


Uwe
 
Let see, while IDE only handles 8, you can put 15 SCSI drives on a
single card, heck, 2 SCSI cards and you have 30 already. Then there is
the USB option. That was pretty easy. And what prevents the user from
multiple power supplies? There are cases outfitted with dual PSU's so
that doesn't appear to be an issue either.

Andrew E. wrote:

> Since the most powerfull pc power supply is only slightly more than 900watts,
> youd never supply the juice for them,plus how would you connect that many...
>
> "Talal Itani" wrote:
>
>
>>XP assigns letters automatically to drives. What happens when more than 26
>>drives are present?
>>
>>
>>
 
In article <#LRkr$rzHHA.1100@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl>, birelan@yahoo.com
says...
> Let see, while IDE only handles 8, you can put 15 SCSI drives on a
> single card, heck, 2 SCSI cards and you have 30 already. Then there is
> the USB option. That was pretty easy. And what prevents the user from
> multiple power supplies? There are cases outfitted with dual PSU's so
> that doesn't appear to be an issue either.

And there are external drive cage arrays. We have one server setup with
12 IDE drives using a two Promise SX6000 RAID controllers, works fine,
allows hot swap....

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Don't forget that it doesn't have to be physical drives. Using an Extended
Partition you could have a large number of Volumes ( Drives w/Letters )
using minimal hardware.
What with current spindle speeds and the heat generated, I'd be reluctant
to have a desktop system with more than 4 physical drives inside it.

"Bob I" <birelan@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Let see, while IDE only handles 8, you can put 15 SCSI drives on a single
> card, heck, 2 SCSI cards and you have 30 already. Then there is the USB
> option. That was pretty easy. And what prevents the user from multiple
> power supplies? There are cases outfitted with dual PSU's so that doesn't
> appear to be an issue either.
>
> Andrew E. wrote:
>
>> Since the most powerfull pc power supply is only slightly more than
>> 900watts,
>> youd never supply the juice for them,plus how would you connect that
>> many...
>>
>> "Talal Itani" wrote:
>>
>>
>>>XP assigns letters automatically to drives. What happens when more than
>>>26 drives are present?
>>>
>>>
>
 

> Since the most powerfull pc power supply is only slightly more than
> 900watts,
> youd never supply the juice for them,plus how would you connect that
> many...
>

I forgot to say, these are flash ram drives. So, no power problem.
 
"Uwe Sieber" <mail@uwe-sieber.de> wrote in message
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> Talal Itani wrote:
>> XP assigns letters automatically to drives. What happens when more than
>> 26 drives are present?
>
> If there is no drive letter availlable then a new drive
> just does not get one. As any other drive it is then
> still accessible thru its volume name, something like
> \\?\Volume{2525d0b8-01de-11dc-b4ef-000102b35cc3}\
> For instance the file TEST.TXT in the root folder of
> the drive could be accessed thru
> \\?\Volume{2525d0b8-01de-11dc-b4ef-000102b35cc3}\TEST.TXT
>

I think this is the solution to my problem. I was not aware that Windows
assigns a volume name to every drive, even drives above letter Z.

I looked at your page regarding USB drive manager, but I was unable to
understand.

Thanks


> Normal software does not accept this, but if you write
> your own Win32 application this would work.
>
>
> With a 3rd party software as my USB drive letter manager
> you could let mount new drives into NTFS folders. Then
> the number of drives is limited by the system ressources
> only.
> http://www.uwe-sieber.de/usbdlm_e.html
>
>
> Greetings from Germany
>
> Uwe
 

> If there is no drive letter availlable then a new drive
> just does not get one. As any other drive it is then
> still accessible thru its volume name, something like
> \\?\Volume{2525d0b8-01de-11dc-b4ef-000102b35cc3}\
> For instance the file TEST.TXT in the root folder of
> the drive could be accessed thru
> \\?\Volume{2525d0b8-01de-11dc-b4ef-000102b35cc3}\TEST.TXT
>


Thanks again. How can I find the volume name for a drive? When I go to
drive properties, the name is what the user assigned.
 
Leythos wrote:

> In article <#LRkr$rzHHA.1100@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl>, birelan@yahoo.com
> says...
>
>>Let see, while IDE only handles 8, you can put 15 SCSI drives on a
>>single card, heck, 2 SCSI cards and you have 30 already. Then there is
>>the USB option. That was pretty easy. And what prevents the user from
>>multiple power supplies? There are cases outfitted with dual PSU's so
>>that doesn't appear to be an issue either.
>
>
> And there are external drive cage arrays. We have one server setup with
> 12 IDE drives using a two Promise SX6000 RAID controllers, works fine,
> allows hot swap....
>

With 12 IDE drives, how are they accessed? The IDE spec calls out 4
channels with 2 drives per channel. Or is the external unit handling it
and presenting 2 drives as a single unit?
 
yes, the "logical" drives is an easy one, the physical setup would be
doable, and yes heat would be an issue to be considered.

R. McCarty wrote:

> Don't forget that it doesn't have to be physical drives. Using an Extended
> Partition you could have a large number of Volumes ( Drives w/Letters )
> using minimal hardware.
> What with current spindle speeds and the heat generated, I'd be reluctant
> to have a desktop system with more than 4 physical drives inside it.
>
> "Bob I" <birelan@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:%23LRkr$rzHHA.1100@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>
>>Let see, while IDE only handles 8, you can put 15 SCSI drives on a single
>>card, heck, 2 SCSI cards and you have 30 already. Then there is the USB
>>option. That was pretty easy. And what prevents the user from multiple
>>power supplies? There are cases outfitted with dual PSU's so that doesn't
>>appear to be an issue either.
>>
>>Andrew E. wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Since the most powerfull pc power supply is only slightly more than
>>>900watts,
>>> youd never supply the juice for them,plus how would you connect that
>>>many...
>>>
>>>"Talal Itani" wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>XP assigns letters automatically to drives. What happens when more than
>>>>26 drives are present?
>>>>
>>>>
>>
>
>
 
'Bob I' wrote:
| With 12 IDE drives, how are they accessed? The IDE spec calls out 4
| channels with 2 drives per channel. Or is the external unit handling it
| and presenting 2 drives as a single unit?
_____

Twelve drives are accessed in the same way as four or eight drives. Plenty
of motherboards were made with more than one dual channel IDE controller;
not even requiring an adapter card to get up to 8 IDE devices. You can have
as many ATA host controllers as you wish.

Phil Weldon

"Bob I" <birelan@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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|
|
| Leythos wrote:
|
| > In article <#LRkr$rzHHA.1100@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl>, birelan@yahoo.com
| > says...
| >
| >>Let see, while IDE only handles 8, you can put 15 SCSI drives on a
| >>single card, heck, 2 SCSI cards and you have 30 already. Then there is
| >>the USB option. That was pretty easy. And what prevents the user from
| >>multiple power supplies? There are cases outfitted with dual PSU's so
| >>that doesn't appear to be an issue either.
| >
| >
| > And there are external drive cage arrays. We have one server setup with
| > 12 IDE drives using a two Promise SX6000 RAID controllers, works fine,
| > allows hot swap....
| >
|
| With 12 IDE drives, how are they accessed? The IDE spec calls out 4
| channels with 2 drives per channel. Or is the external unit handling it
| and presenting 2 drives as a single unit?
|
 
Thanks, I only have the connections for handling 8 and so I went back to
the IDE/ATA specifications.

Phil Weldon wrote:

> 'Bob I' wrote:
> | With 12 IDE drives, how are they accessed? The IDE spec calls out 4
> | channels with 2 drives per channel. Or is the external unit handling it
> | and presenting 2 drives as a single unit?
> _____
>
> Twelve drives are accessed in the same way as four or eight drives. Plenty
> of motherboards were made with more than one dual channel IDE controller;
> not even requiring an adapter card to get up to 8 IDE devices. You can have
> as many ATA host controllers as you wish.
>
> Phil Weldon
>
> "Bob I" <birelan@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:OG8bQfszHHA.3788@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> |
> |
> | Leythos wrote:
> |
> | > In article <#LRkr$rzHHA.1100@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl>, birelan@yahoo.com
> | > says...
> | >
> | >>Let see, while IDE only handles 8, you can put 15 SCSI drives on a
> | >>single card, heck, 2 SCSI cards and you have 30 already. Then there is
> | >>the USB option. That was pretty easy. And what prevents the user from
> | >>multiple power supplies? There are cases outfitted with dual PSU's so
> | >>that doesn't appear to be an issue either.
> | >
> | >
> | > And there are external drive cage arrays. We have one server setup with
> | > 12 IDE drives using a two Promise SX6000 RAID controllers, works fine,
> | > allows hot swap....
> | >
> |
> | With 12 IDE drives, how are they accessed? The IDE spec calls out 4
> | channels with 2 drives per channel. Or is the external unit handling it
> | and presenting 2 drives as a single unit?
> |
>
>
 
On Wed, 25 Jul 2007 08:30:07 -0500, Bob I <birelan@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Let see, while IDE only handles 8, you can put 15 SCSI drives on a
> single card, heck, 2 SCSI cards and you have 30 already. Then there is
> the USB option. That was pretty easy. And what prevents the user from
> multiple power supplies? There are cases outfitted with dual PSU's so
> that doesn't appear to be an issue either.


And another alternative: multiple partitions on a single drive (or a
few drives).




> Andrew E. wrote:
>
> > Since the most powerfull pc power supply is only slightly more than 900watts,
> > youd never supply the juice for them,plus how would you connect that many...
> >
> > "Talal Itani" wrote:
> >
> >
> >>XP assigns letters automatically to drives. What happens when more than 26
> >>drives are present?
> >>
> >>
> >>

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