Vista ult. 64 bit and 32 bit (x86)

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I have 2 gig ram an AMD Athlon 64 x2 processor TK-53 and when I got my
laptop it came with xp home 32 bit and now 2 days ago I formatted my
hard drive and got vista 64 bit and now I am thinking would it have been
a better idea for me to get 32 bit...would performance or anything
increase would it be better in my case? Also I have arconis true image
the backup program and I made a backup and created a new partition if I
reinstall vista ultimate 32 bit but first format my hard drive the
arconis backup partition and my primary partion will they automatically
merge? how would i merge them please answer all my questions immediate
help would be greatly appreciated.

IMPORTANT: Also I do not seem to have any problems with drivers or my
network or anything. Also by formatting my drive and doing all this won'
cause any problems would it?


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inimitablesikh wrote:
> I have 2 gig ram an AMD Athlon 64 x2 processor TK-53 and when I got my
> laptop it came with xp home 32 bit and now 2 days ago I formatted my
> hard drive and got vista 64 bit and now I am thinking would it have been
> a better idea for me to get 32 bit...would performance or anything
> increase would it be better in my case? Also I have arconis true image
> the backup program and I made a backup and created a new partition if I
> reinstall vista ultimate 32 bit but first format my hard drive the
> arconis backup partition and my primary partion will they automatically
> merge? how would i merge them please answer all my questions immediate
> help would be greatly appreciated.
>
> IMPORTANT: Also I do not seem to have any problems with drivers or my
> network or anything. Also by formatting my drive and doing all this won'
> cause any problems would it?
>
>


There is no visible difference between 64 and 32 bit versions as long as
all the software you need works. Some older software and device drivers
will not work on 64 bit, but if you haven't found this yet then there is
probably no need to worry.
 
so there is no diff at all in cpu usage ram usage or anything like that?


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inimitablesikh wrote:
> so there is no diff at all in cpu usage ram usage or anything like that?
>
>


Not that I see here, same hardware, no difference, except as I said a
few things will not run because they are not programmed for a 64 bit
system. In theory 64 bit should be the way to the future.

If you play games then maybe 32 bit will run more, but if you want games
then consider steampowered.com because everything they do seems to run
fine under 64 bit Vista.

By all means wait for other replies but I am not seeing any real difference.
 
and by "older software", you mean plenty of stuff compiled as long ago as
2008.



"Charlie Tame" <charlie@tames.net> wrote in message
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>
>
> There is no visible difference between 64 and 32 bit versions as long as
> all the software you need works. Some older software and device drivers
> will not work on 64 bit, but if you haven't found this yet then there is
> probably no need to worry.
 
You would want to go with a 64-bit OS if you use 4 Gigs of RAM or more.




"inimitablesikh" <guest@unknown-email.com> wrote in message
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>
> I have 2 gig ram an AMD Athlon 64 x2 processor TK-53 and when I got my
> laptop it came with xp home 32 bit and now 2 days ago I formatted my
> hard drive and got vista 64 bit and now I am thinking would it have been
> a better idea for me to get 32 bit...would performance or anything
> increase would it be better in my case? Also I have arconis true image
> the backup program and I made a backup and created a new partition if I
> reinstall vista ultimate 32 bit but first format my hard drive the
> arconis backup partition and my primary partion will they automatically
> merge? how would i merge them please answer all my questions immediate
> help would be greatly appreciated.
>
> IMPORTANT: Also I do not seem to have any problems with drivers or my
> network or anything. Also by formatting my drive and doing all this won'
> cause any problems would it?
>
>
> --
> inimitablesikh
 
On Sun, 1 Jun 2008 01:39:26 -0500, inimitablesikh
<guest@unknown-email.com> wrote:

>
>but I only have 2 gigs so...

So... do whatever you wanna do.

And learn to quote what you reply to.
 
inimitablesikh732777 Wrote:
> I have 2 gig ram an AMD Athlon 64 x2 processor TK-53 and when I got my
> laptop it came with xp home 32 bit and now 2 days ago I formatted my
> hard drive and got vista 64 bit and now I am thinking would it have been
> a better idea for me to get 32 bit...would performance or anything
> increase would it be better in my case? Also I have arconis true image
> the backup program and I made a backup and created a new partition if I
> reinstall vista ultimate 32 bit but first format my hard drive the
> arconis backup partition and my primary partion will they automatically
> merge? how would i merge them please answer all my questions immediate
> help would be greatly appreciated.
>
> IMPORTANT: Also I do not seem to have any problems with drivers or my
> network or anything. Also by formatting my drive and doing all this won'
> cause any problems would it?

If you're not having any problems locating Vista x64 drivers for your
hardware, then you should most defintely consider staying with Vista
x64.

Visually, there is no difference between Vista x86 (32-Bit) and Vista
x64, but there are some subtle differences that make Vista x64 the
better choice:

- *More Memory.* Depending on which Vista x64 you use, the system can
support as much as 128GB of memory (Vista x64 Ultimate).
- *Kernel Protection.* All Vista x64 versions include Kernel Patch
Protection, a facility that prevents ALL third-party programs
(including anti-virus utilities) from improperly patching or modifying
the system kernel that could lead to instability.
- *Signed Drivers.* All editions of Vista x64 require the use of
digitally signed drivers, another facility that helps to improve the
stability of the system.
- *Increased Performance.* Because of improved memory management,
both 32-Bit and 64-Bit applications run faster because memory is not
paged to the swap file as often, and multitasking is also vastly
improved.
The above only just scratches the surface of why Vista x64 is better
than it's x86 siblings. But in just about all areas, I can only come to
one conclusion - Vista x64 is vastly superior to Vista x86.

The only "gotcha" that exists in Vista x64 (and not in Vista x86) is
that it no longer supports 16-bit applications, which includes 32-bit
programs that still use 16-bit installer routines. These applications
will simply fail to run or install. For me, this isn't too much of a
problem, because most of those programs where in use on Windows 95/98,
and I've long since updated them with newer, more advanced versions.

One other bit of trivia that may help you decide is the next release of
Windows in 2010, Windows 7. This will be the last version of Windows
that will be relased in both 32 and 64 bit versions. Whatever follows
that (Windows 8), will be released only in x64. So you might as well
make the change now, so that you're not left behind when the whole world
makes the switchover from x86 to x64 computing.


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Sure there will be some stuff that won't work because it is compiled for
X86 only, and some that does not have signed drivers the kernal will
reject, but mostly the consideration is with older software which is no
longer under development. That is definitely not going to get fixed.

Xenomorph wrote:
> and by "older software", you mean plenty of stuff compiled as long ago
> as 2008.
>
>
>
> "Charlie Tame" <charlie@tames.net> wrote in message
> news:%23rav2T6wIHA.2208@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>
>>
>>
>> There is no visible difference between 64 and 32 bit versions as long
>> as all the software you need works. Some older software and device
>> drivers will not work on 64 bit, but if you haven't found this yet
>> then there is probably no need to worry.
>
 
inimitablesikh wrote:
> but I only have 2 gigs so...
>
>

Well I think we were all considering whether there was any benefit in
switching Vs the extra cost, and as long as you are not running into
problems getting the software you need to work there is not much point,
however it seems as if you really think you should go to 32 bit and
therefore you should, otherwise you will not be satisfied with it.
 
Charlie Tame732937 Wrote:
> inimitablesikh wrote:> > >
> > > but I only have 2 gigs so...
> > >
> > > > > Well I think we were all considering whether there was any benefit in
> switching Vs the extra cost, and as long as you are not running into
> problems getting the software you need to work there is not much
> point,
> however it seems as if you really think you should go to 32 bit and
> therefore you should, otherwise you will not be satisfied with it.

I just realized I do have a problem with graphics card I
believe...sometimes my screen randomly glitches and I have to force
shutdown is this becuz of my graphics card/driver? Under system info it
says
Adapter Type: ATI Radeon Xpress Series (0x5975), ATI Technologies
Inc. compatible
Thats my graphics card right? Is there a driver for x64 for it or only
x86? ANd what would be causeing the random screen glitch problems that
make me force shtdown?


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Why do you need 64-bit OS? Did the 32-bit version work with all your
software? 64-bit is for going beyond 4GB. Did you upgrade the BIOS to
get full 64-bit support?


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On Sat, 31 May 2008 23:10:49 -0500, inimitablesikh
<guest@unknown-email.com> wrote:

>
> I have 2 gig ram an AMD Athlon 64 x2 processor TK-53 and when I got my
> laptop it came with xp home 32 bit and now 2 days ago I formatted my
> hard drive and got vista 64 bit and now I am thinking would it have been
> a better idea for me to get 32 bit...would performance or anything
> increase would it be better in my case?


No.

There are two potential disadvantages to running 64-bit Vista:

1. Drivers may not exist for some of your hardware.

2. Some older applications may not work.

Since you apparently have not run into either problem, you should be
fine.

A 64-bit operating system is faster than a 32-bit one if you also
run 64-bit applications. With 32-bit applications, you will probably
notice little or no difference in speed. There are few 64-bit
applications available yet, but with 64-bit Vista, you will be poised
to take advantage of them as they become available.



> Also I have arconis true image
> the backup program and I made a backup and created a new partition if I
> reinstall vista ultimate 32 bit but first format my hard drive the
> arconis backup partition and my primary partion will they automatically
> merge? how would i merge them please answer all my questions immediate
> help would be greatly appreciated.


Sorry, I find the above paragraph extremely confusing, and I can't
understand what you are getting at. Can you repeat the question,
please, and be considerably more explicit about what you are asking?

>
> IMPORTANT: Also I do not seem to have any problems with drivers or my
> network or anything. Also by formatting my drive and doing all this won'
> cause any problems would it?
>
>
> --
> inimitablesikh

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On Sun, 1 Jun 2008 15:44:28 -0500, dmex <guest@unknown-email.com>
wrote:

>
>This Thread will now be deleted.

If only a user of vBulletin could do that, but you can't.
 
inimitablesikh wrote:
> Charlie Tame732937 Wrote:
>> inimitablesikh wrote:> > >
>>>> but I only have 2 gigs so...
>>>>
>>>>>> Well I think we were all considering whether there was any benefit in
>> switching Vs the extra cost, and as long as you are not running into
>> problems getting the software you need to work there is not much
>> point,
>> however it seems as if you really think you should go to 32 bit and
>> therefore you should, otherwise you will not be satisfied with it.
>
> I just realized I do have a problem with graphics card I
> believe...sometimes my screen randomly glitches and I have to force
> shutdown is this becuz of my graphics card/driver? Under system info it
> says
> Adapter Type: ATI Radeon Xpress Series (0x5975), ATI Technologies
> Inc. compatible
> Thats my graphics card right? Is there a driver for x64 for it or only
> x86? ANd what would be causeing the random screen glitch problems that
> make me force shtdown?
>
>

Almost all (if not all) Graphics cards have had driver updates since
Vista first went to manufacturing, you will need to go to ATI's website
to check for the latest driver, and yes the 64 and 32 bit drivers are
probably different.

You can often get video drivers from Windows Update, but if you do that
it is best to download only and then reboot and install, it seems to
create problems if you let that happen automatically sometimes. Most
people will tell you never to get them from Windows update and only from
the card maker's website.

If you have drivers that came on your install CD then yes, they could
well be the cause of your problem.
 
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