vista sp1 not being auto installed

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carl43m

I have a new pc with windows vista. Windows update is set to install all
important and recommended updates. Over the last two weks I have had many
updates identified and automatically installed each day at 9am. $ days ago
the update information page showed me that there was 1 important update
available--I viewed available updates and it shows vista sp1 as available.
But everyday for the last 4 days 9am comes and goes but the automatic
downloading and installing does not happen for the vista sp1.

Anyone have any insights as to why sp1 doesn't just go ahead and be
installed automatically when it is showing as available?
 
I have the same issue. Please advise if anyone has a solution.

Brian

"carl43m" wrote:

> I have a new pc with windows vista. Windows update is set to install all
> important and recommended updates. Over the last two weks I have had many
> updates identified and automatically installed each day at 9am. $ days ago
> the update information page showed me that there was 1 important update
> available--I viewed available updates and it shows vista sp1 as available.
> But everyday for the last 4 days 9am comes and goes but the automatic
> downloading and installing does not happen for the vista sp1.
>
> Anyone have any insights as to why sp1 doesn't just go ahead and be
> installed automatically when it is showing as available?
 
At the present time Vista SP1 needs to be installed manually. It's not yet
set to auto install.

--

Bob Eyster
MS Windows Vista Home Premium



"Coprolite" <Coprolite@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:8F505D5B-0DE1-4B08-B6CB-C6C45F47A9AA@microsoft.com...
>I have the same issue. Please advise if anyone has a solution.
>
> Brian
>
> "carl43m" wrote:
>
>> I have a new pc with windows vista. Windows update is set to install all
>> important and recommended updates. Over the last two weks I have had
>> many
>> updates identified and automatically installed each day at 9am. $ days
>> ago
>> the update information page showed me that there was 1 important update
>> available--I viewed available updates and it shows vista sp1 as
>> available.
>> But everyday for the last 4 days 9am comes and goes but the automatic
>> downloading and installing does not happen for the vista sp1.
>>
>> Anyone have any insights as to why sp1 doesn't just go ahead and be
>> installed automatically when it is showing as available?
 
Thany you. Is there anything I need to be alert for in doing this manually?
There must be some reason it doesn't do it automatically.
Carl

"Bob Eyster" wrote:

> At the present time Vista SP1 needs to be installed manually. It's not yet
> set to auto install.
>
> --
>
> Bob Eyster
> MS Windows Vista Home Premium
>
>
>
> "Coprolite" <Coprolite@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:8F505D5B-0DE1-4B08-B6CB-C6C45F47A9AA@microsoft.com...
> >I have the same issue. Please advise if anyone has a solution.
> >
> > Brian
> >
> > "carl43m" wrote:
> >
> >> I have a new pc with windows vista. Windows update is set to install all
> >> important and recommended updates. Over the last two weks I have had
> >> many
> >> updates identified and automatically installed each day at 9am. $ days
> >> ago
> >> the update information page showed me that there was 1 important update
> >> available--I viewed available updates and it shows vista sp1 as
> >> available.
> >> But everyday for the last 4 days 9am comes and goes but the automatic
> >> downloading and installing does not happen for the vista sp1.
> >>
> >> Anyone have any insights as to why sp1 doesn't just go ahead and be
> >> installed automatically when it is showing as available?
>
>
 
Windows Vista Service Pack 1 [may not be] available for installation from
Windows Update and is not offered by Automatic Updates:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/948343

=========================================

Unlimited installation and compatibility support for Vista SP1 is available
at no charge through 18 Mar-09
• US:
http://support.microsoft.com/oas/default.aspx?ln=en-us&prid=11274&gprid=500921

• CA:
http://support.microsoft.com/oas/default.aspx?ln=en-ca&prid=11274&gprid=500921

• UK:
http://support.microsoft.com/oas/default.aspx?ln=en-gb&prid=11274&gprid=500921

• AU:
http://support.microsoft.com/oas/default.aspx?ln=en-au&prid=11274&gprid=500921

• Other: http://support.microsoft.com/oas/default.aspx | select Windows
Vista | select Windows Vista Service Pack 1

Information about Windows Vista Service Pack 1:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/936330

How to obtain the latest Windows Vista service pack
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/935791

Windows Vista Service Pack 1 - Things to Know Before You Download:
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/windowsvista/bb968859.aspx

Windows Vista Help: Learn how to install Windows Vista Service Pack 1 (SP1):
http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/windows/en-us/Help/133c8953-c9cd-4fa5-8883-03e91bb6f2021033.mspx
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Desktop Experience - since 2002
AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net
DTS-L http://dts-l.net/

carl43m wrote:
> I have a new pc with windows vista. Windows update is set to install all
> important and recommended updates. Over the last two weks I have had
> many
> updates identified and automatically installed each day at 9am. $ days
> ago
> the update information page showed me that there was 1 important update
> available--I viewed available updates and it shows vista sp1 as available.
> But everyday for the last 4 days 9am comes and goes but the automatic
> downloading and installing does not happen for the vista sp1.
>
> Anyone have any insights as to why sp1 doesn't just go ahead and be
> installed automatically when it is showing as available?
 
In reading this NG installing Vista SP1 affect users in different ways.
Myself I had no problems installing SP1. You should read the article that PA
Bear sent you. There is a piece in there about third party drivers, one
being Creative and a certain driver for a sound card. I corrected all driver
issues before installing.

--

Bob Eyster
MS Windows Vista Home Premium



"carl43m" <carl43m@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:2AC4D9C2-6C71-4CBA-A46F-E76C8B96A3A8@microsoft.com...
> Thany you. Is there anything I need to be alert for in doing this
> manually?
> There must be some reason it doesn't do it automatically.
> Carl
>
> "Bob Eyster" wrote:
>
>> At the present time Vista SP1 needs to be installed manually. It's not
>> yet
>> set to auto install.
>>
>> --
>>
>> Bob Eyster
>> MS Windows Vista Home Premium
>>
>>
>>
>> "Coprolite" <Coprolite@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:8F505D5B-0DE1-4B08-B6CB-C6C45F47A9AA@microsoft.com...
>> >I have the same issue. Please advise if anyone has a solution.
>> >
>> > Brian
>> >
>> > "carl43m" wrote:
>> >
>> >> I have a new pc with windows vista. Windows update is set to install
>> >> all
>> >> important and recommended updates. Over the last two weks I have had
>> >> many
>> >> updates identified and automatically installed each day at 9am. $
>> >> days
>> >> ago
>> >> the update information page showed me that there was 1 important
>> >> update
>> >> available--I viewed available updates and it shows vista sp1 as
>> >> available.
>> >> But everyday for the last 4 days 9am comes and goes but the automatic
>> >> downloading and installing does not happen for the vista sp1.
>> >>
>> >> Anyone have any insights as to why sp1 doesn't just go ahead and be
>> >> installed automatically when it is showing as available?
>>
>>
 
Bob, on what source do you base this statement?
--
~PA Bear

Bob Eyster wrote:
> At the present time Vista SP1 needs to be installed manually. It's not yet
> set to auto install.
<snip>
 
Form MS and some messages in the NG. There was a date mentioned when it
would be available for "Recommended" and or Auto download but it slips my
mine

--

Bob Eyster
MS Windows Vista Home Premium



"PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABearMVP@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:%23frPiRZwIHA.3384@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> Bob, on what source do you base this statement?
> --
> ~PA Bear
>
> Bob Eyster wrote:
>> At the present time Vista SP1 needs to be installed manually. It's not
>> yet
>> set to auto install.
> <snip>
>
 
I think you'll find that your MS references and the NG posts are outdated
now:

<QP>
Here's the timing for SP1 availability for current Windows Vista users:

• In mid-March, we will release Windows Vista SP1 to Windows Update (in
English, French, Spanish, German and Japanese) and to the download center on
microsoft.com. Customers who visit Windows Update can choose to install
Service Pack 1. If Windows Update determines that the system has one of the
drivers we know to be problematic, then Windows Update will not offer SP1.
Since we know that some customers may want to update to SP1 anyhow, the
download center will allow anyone who wants to install SP1 to do so.

• In mid-April, we will begin delivering Windows Vista SP1 to Windows Vista
customers who have chosen to have updates downloaded automatically. That
said, any system that Windows Update determines has a driver known to not
update successfully will not get SP1 automatically. As updates for these
drivers become available, they will be installed automatically by Windows
Update, which will unblock these systems from getting Service Pack 1. The
result is that more and more systems will automatically get SP1, but only
when we are confident they will have a good experience.

• The remaining languages will RTM in April.
</QP>
Source:
http://windowsvistablog.com/blogs/w.../announcing-the-rtm-of-windows-vista-sp1.aspx

If Windows Update detection logic determines that a machine is ready for
Vista SP1, it *will* be offered by Windows Update. However, no Service Pack
will install automatically: The user will be prompted to approve the install
before it takes place.

I would NOT recommend attempting to install SP1 manually if it hasn't been
offered by Windows Update yet! See...

Windows Vista Service Pack 1 [may not be] available for installation from
Windows Update and is not offered by Automatic Updates:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/948343

=====================================

Information about Windows Vista Service Pack 1:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/936330

How to obtain the latest Windows Vista service pack
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/935791

Windows Vista SP1 FAQ:
http://windowsvistablog.com/blogs/windowsexperience/pages/windows-vista-sp1-faq.aspx

Windows Vista Help: Learn how to install Windows Vista Service Pack 1 (SP1):
http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/windows/en-us/Help/133c8953-c9cd-4fa5-8883-03e91bb6f2021033.mspx
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Desktop Experience - since 2002
AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net
DTS-L http://dts-l.net/


Bob Eyster wrote:
> Form MS and some messages in the NG. There was a date mentioned when it
> would be available for "Recommended" and or Auto download but it slips my
> mine
>
>> Bob, on what source do you base this statement?
>>
>>> At the present time Vista SP1 needs to be installed manually. It's not
>>> yet set to auto install.
>> <snip>
 
I stand corrected then...

--

Bob Eyster
MS Windows Vista Home Premium



"PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABearMVP@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:Ofz3tc3wIHA.5124@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>I think you'll find that your MS references and the NG posts are outdated
>now:
>
> <QP>
> Here's the timing for SP1 availability for current Windows Vista users:
>
> • In mid-March, we will release Windows Vista SP1 to Windows Update (in
> English, French, Spanish, German and Japanese) and to the download center
> on microsoft.com. Customers who visit Windows Update can choose to
> install Service Pack 1. If Windows Update determines that the system has
> one of the drivers we know to be problematic, then Windows Update will not
> offer SP1. Since we know that some customers may want to update to SP1
> anyhow, the download center will allow anyone who wants to install SP1 to
> do so.
>
> • In mid-April, we will begin delivering Windows Vista SP1 to Windows
> Vista customers who have chosen to have updates downloaded automatically.
> That said, any system that Windows Update determines has a driver known to
> not update successfully will not get SP1 automatically. As updates for
> these drivers become available, they will be installed automatically by
> Windows Update, which will unblock these systems from getting Service Pack
> 1. The result is that more and more systems will automatically get SP1,
> but only when we are confident they will have a good experience.
>
> • The remaining languages will RTM in April.
> </QP>
> Source:
> http://windowsvistablog.com/blogs/w.../announcing-the-rtm-of-windows-vista-sp1.aspx
>
> If Windows Update detection logic determines that a machine is ready for
> Vista SP1, it *will* be offered by Windows Update. However, no Service
> Pack will install automatically: The user will be prompted to approve the
> install before it takes place.
>
> I would NOT recommend attempting to install SP1 manually if it hasn't been
> offered by Windows Update yet! See...
>
> Windows Vista Service Pack 1 [may not be] available for installation from
> Windows Update and is not offered by Automatic Updates:
> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/948343
>
> =====================================
>
> Information about Windows Vista Service Pack 1:
> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/936330
>
> How to obtain the latest Windows Vista service pack
> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/935791
>
> Windows Vista SP1 FAQ:
> http://windowsvistablog.com/blogs/windowsexperience/pages/windows-vista-sp1-faq.aspx
>
> Windows Vista Help: Learn how to install Windows Vista Service Pack 1
> (SP1):
> http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/windows/en-us/Help/133c8953-c9cd-4fa5-8883-03e91bb6f2021033.mspx
> --
> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
> MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Desktop Experience - since 2002
> AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net
> DTS-L http://dts-l.net/
>
>
> Bob Eyster wrote:
>> Form MS and some messages in the NG. There was a date mentioned when it
>> would be available for "Recommended" and or Auto download but it slips my
>> mine
>>
>>> Bob, on what source do you base this statement?
>>>
>>>> At the present time Vista SP1 needs to be installed manually. It's not
>>>> yet set to auto install.
>>> <snip>
>
 
The vista SP1 now shows as an available "important"update. From earlier
notes here it would seem to me that this would only show up if windows update
had checked my system to be sure there were no problamic drivers. I do have
a Creative Zen hooked to my pc so there is a creative driver here but I do
not know if it is a problem one. I clicked on the update window to install
sp1--the download window was open 3 hours with the little green bar moving
across the scree all that time--however all during thiks time the window
showed (oKB,O% complete). After three hours with a DSL broadband connection
I hit cancel on the download.

Two day later I thought I would try again. The update still showed as
available and I hit install and then windows update did not show as trying to
download, it said installing update 1 of 1. Well I waited 2 hours and saw
nothing happening on the screen and finally had to leave and hit the stop
install button. I have no idea why I never saw any progress on the download
and no idea why it would say it was installing and nothing happen after 2
hours. My machine has 4GB RAM and 4500GB of hard drive so it cannot be a
resource issue.

Anyone have any ideas? The machine is only 4 weeks old . There is no
indication of any viruses at all.

"PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:

> Windows Vista Service Pack 1 [may not be] available for installation from
> Windows Update and is not offered by Automatic Updates:
> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/948343
>
> =========================================
>
> Unlimited installation and compatibility support for Vista SP1 is available
> at no charge through 18 Mar-09
> • US:
> http://support.microsoft.com/oas/default.aspx?ln=en-us&prid=11274&gprid=500921
>
> • CA:
> http://support.microsoft.com/oas/default.aspx?ln=en-ca&prid=11274&gprid=500921
>
> • UK:
> http://support.microsoft.com/oas/default.aspx?ln=en-gb&prid=11274&gprid=500921
>
> • AU:
> http://support.microsoft.com/oas/default.aspx?ln=en-au&prid=11274&gprid=500921
>
> • Other: http://support.microsoft.com/oas/default.aspx | select Windows
> Vista | select Windows Vista Service Pack 1
>
> Information about Windows Vista Service Pack 1:
> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/936330
>
> How to obtain the latest Windows Vista service pack
> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/935791
>
> Windows Vista Service Pack 1 - Things to Know Before You Download:
> http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/windowsvista/bb968859.aspx
>
> Windows Vista Help: Learn how to install Windows Vista Service Pack 1 (SP1):
> http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/windows/en-us/Help/133c8953-c9cd-4fa5-8883-03e91bb6f2021033.mspx
> --
> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
> MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Desktop Experience - since 2002
> AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net
> DTS-L http://dts-l.net/
>
> carl43m wrote:
> > I have a new pc with windows vista. Windows update is set to install all
> > important and recommended updates. Over the last two weks I have had
> > many
> > updates identified and automatically installed each day at 9am. $ days
> > ago
> > the update information page showed me that there was 1 important update
> > available--I viewed available updates and it shows vista sp1 as available.
> > But everyday for the last 4 days 9am comes and goes but the automatic
> > downloading and installing does not happen for the vista sp1.
> >
> > Anyone have any insights as to why sp1 doesn't just go ahead and be
> > installed automatically when it is showing as available?
>
>
 
Now that we know "the rest of ths story," see this KB article:

The update is not installed successfully, you receive a message, and the
computer restarts when you try to install an update in Windows Vista
[When you try to install an update from Windows Update on a computer that is
running Windows Vista, you may receive the following message:

configuring updates stage 3 of 3. 0% complete

After you receive this message, the computer reverts to the screen that
displays the same message. Additionally, the update is not installed
successfully, and the computer restarts.]
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/949358

Unlimited installation and compatibility support for Vista SP1 is available
at no charge through 18 Mar-09
• US:
http://support.microsoft.com/oas/default.aspx?ln=en-us&prid=11274&gprid=500921

• CA:
http://support.microsoft.com/oas/default.aspx?ln=en-ca&prid=11274&gprid=500921

• UK:
http://support.microsoft.com/oas/default.aspx?ln=en-gb&prid=11274&gprid=500921

• AU:
http://support.microsoft.com/oas/default.aspx?ln=en-au&prid=11274&gprid=500921

• Other: http://support.microsoft.com/oas/default.aspx | select Windows
Vista | select Windows Vista Service Pack 1
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Desktop Experience - since 2002
AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net
DTS-L http://dts-l.net/



carl43m wrote:
> The vista SP1 now shows as an available "important"update. From earlier
> notes here it would seem to me that this would only show up if windows
> update had checked my system to be sure there were no problamic drivers.
> I
> do have a Creative Zen hooked to my pc so there is a creative driver here
> but I do not know if it is a problem one. I clicked on the update window
> to install sp1--the download window was open 3 hours with the little green
> bar moving across the scree all that time--however all during thiks time
> the window showed (oKB,O% complete). After three hours with a DSL
> broadband connection I hit cancel on the download.
>
> Two day later I thought I would try again. The update still showed as
> available and I hit install and then windows update did not show as trying
> to download, it said installing update 1 of 1. Well I waited 2 hours and
> saw nothing happening on the screen and finally had to leave and hit the
> stop install button. I have no idea why I never saw any progress on the
> download and no idea why it would say it was installing and nothing happen
> after 2 hours. My machine has 4GB RAM and 4500GB of hard drive so it
> cannot be a resource issue.
>
> Anyone have any ideas? The machine is only 4 weeks old . There is no
> indication of any viruses at all.
>
> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:
>
>> Windows Vista Service Pack 1 [may not be] available for installation from
>> Windows Update and is not offered by Automatic Updates:
>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/948343
>>
>> =========================================
>>
>> Unlimited installation and compatibility support for Vista SP1 is
>> available
>> at no charge through 18 Mar-09
>> • US:
>> http://support.microsoft.com/oas/default.aspx?ln=en-us&prid=11274&gprid=500921
>>
>> • CA:
>> http://support.microsoft.com/oas/default.aspx?ln=en-ca&prid=11274&gprid=500921
>>
>> • UK:
>> http://support.microsoft.com/oas/default.aspx?ln=en-gb&prid=11274&gprid=500921
>>
>> • AU:
>> http://support.microsoft.com/oas/default.aspx?ln=en-au&prid=11274&gprid=500921
>>
>> • Other: http://support.microsoft.com/oas/default.aspx | select Windows
>> Vista | select Windows Vista Service Pack 1
>>
>> Information about Windows Vista Service Pack 1:
>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/936330
>>
>> How to obtain the latest Windows Vista service pack
>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/935791
>>
>> Windows Vista Service Pack 1 - Things to Know Before You Download:
>> http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/windowsvista/bb968859.aspx
>>
>> Windows Vista Help: Learn how to install Windows Vista Service Pack 1
>> (SP1):
>> http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/windows/en-us/Help/133c8953-c9cd-4fa5-8883-03e91bb6f2021033.mspx
>> -- ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
>> MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Desktop Experience - since 2002
>> AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net
>> DTS-L http://dts-l.net/
>>
>> carl43m wrote:
>>> I have a new pc with windows vista. Windows update is set to install
>>> all
>>> important and recommended updates. Over the last two weks I have had
>>> many
>>> updates identified and automatically installed each day at 9am. $ days
>>> ago
>>> the update information page showed me that there was 1 important update
>>> available--I viewed available updates and it shows vista sp1 as
>>> available.
>>> But everyday for the last 4 days 9am comes and goes but the automatic
>>> downloading and installing does not happen for the vista sp1.
>>>
>>> Anyone have any insights as to why sp1 doesn't just go ahead and be
>>> installed automatically when it is showing as available?
 
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