Vista Sevice Packs

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Can anyone tell me the truth about Vista sevice packs:
1. How may are there.
2. Is it true that installing them leads to more problems than before
installing them?
(Feedback from searchibng the internet)

Thanks in advance
 
Re: Vista Service Packs

"Dermot" <Dermot@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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> Can anyone tell me the truth about Vista sevice packs:
> 1. How may are there.


One.


> 2. Is it true that installing them leads to more problems than before
> installing them?


Of course not.

>
> Thanks in advance


No problem. Glad to help.
 
There is only SP1. I have had it installed since it was released and while
it doesn't fix the stuff I hate about Vista I have had fewer technical
issues. Like it works better with my three monitors and two video cards. I
have less trouble with it forgetting the resolution on my 30" screen.

Vista is still cr@p and always will be. Microsoft as usual designed for the
idiots in the world instead of real user's.
 
On Fri, 30 May 2008 08:02:00 -0700, Dermot
<Dermot@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

>Can anyone tell me the truth about Vista sevice packs:
>1. How may are there.
>2. Is it true that installing them leads to more problems than before
>installing them?
> (Feedback from searchibng the internet)
>
>Thanks in advance



Unlike Apple which uses a "closed" hardware system thereby controlling
development much more strictly, the PC world to it's credit uses a
"open" system where there is a army of hardware manufacturers each
vying for a share of the huge personal computer market. Because of
that all versions of Windows have a constant struggle keeping up and
working up to speed and addressing issues as the pop up. When you
combine that sobering fact with Microsoft needing to address the
deluge of "bugs" being constantly found in it's bloated versions of
Windows it is no wonder how many patches, hacks and Service Packs
there are floating around to entice you.

How many are there? I have no idea. A better question would be how
many do you actually need. That question can only be answered by each
individual user since some patches and elements of Service Packs only
pertain to some hardware.

The old metaphorical "...if it ain't broke, don't try to fix it"
applies. Meaning simply if your particular install seems to be working
correctly don't haphazardly install some "patch" or Service Pack. You
can make things worse. Way worse as many have sadly found out to their
regret. This advice is easier followed when installing some so-called
individual security update that comes with a linked KB article most
times describing just exactly what the patch is suppose to correct or
prevent from happening.

Sadly when applying a Service Pack which is mostly a collection of
prior released individual patches you assume the risk of using such a
sledge hammer approach. So applying a Service Pack may make your
system overall better and even correct something that was wrong, but
you also run the risk of messing something else up that prior to the
patch was working properly. That's just how it is. You really don't
know, so you're rolling the dice.

Before making any major changes to your computer and certainly
applying a Service Pack can be considered a major change, be sure you
have current backup of your critical data, especially if you store
some or all your data on the same partition that Windows is on,
generally a poor idea, but many people do, because that's where
Windows expects and actually encourages you to store data which I
never understood. Better safe then sorry.
 
There have been a lot of people who have had problems after installing SP1,
which is the only SP for Vista. There have also been some who have not had
problems. Don't forget, people hardly ever report when there are no problems
but yell like crazy when there are. I installed SP1 and it totally
stabilized my machine. I went from daily crashes to 1 crash since March,
which was my fault anyway.

So, the bottom line is your mileage will very.

Mark

"Dermot" <Dermot@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:986E0A3C-1893-4964-BFB0-16F059DDC716@microsoft.com...
> Can anyone tell me the truth about Vista sevice packs:
> 1. How may are there.
> 2. Is it true that installing them leads to more problems than before
> installing them?
> (Feedback from searchibng the internet)
>
> Thanks in advance
 
Dermot wrote:

> Can anyone tell me the truth about Vista sevice packs:
> 1. How may are there.
> 2. Is it true that installing them leads to more problems than before
> installing them?
> (Feedback from searchibng the internet)
>
> Thanks in advance


Currently there is only one Vista service pack...SP1. It contains all
previous updates and a few new ones. You should install it because
future Vista updates may require it being installed before new updates
can be installed.
Go here to get a more complete understanding of Vista SP1.

http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/windowsvista/bb738089.aspx

Frank
 
On Fri, 30 May 2008 08:02:00 -0700, Dermot
<Dermot@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

> Can anyone tell me the truth about Vista sevice packs:


> 1. How may are there.



One. It was just released a few weeks ago.


> 2. Is it true that installing them leads to more problems than before
> installing them?
> (Feedback from searchibng the internet)




Of course not. The idea is nonsense. Whenever anything new comes
out--whether it's a service pack, an individual hotfix, or a whole new
operating system--there are always a certain number of people who have
problems with it--because they've installed it wrong, because they
have an unusual combination of hardware components, because they are
uninfected with malware, or because of any of a number of other
possible reasons. Yes, you see problems when searching the internet
the people with these problems are the most vocal because they are the
ones who are looking for solutions to their problems. But the great
majority of people have no problems at all.

Vista SP1 works just fine here, as do all three service packs I've
installed on my XP machines.

--
Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience
Please Reply to the Newsgroup
 
Re: Vista Service Packs

Slap is uneducated.

"Slap" <slap@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>
>
> "Dermot" <Dermot@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:986E0A3C-1893-4964-BFB0-16F059DDC716@microsoft.com...
>> Can anyone tell me the truth about Vista sevice packs:
>> 1. How may are there.

>
> One.
>
>
>> 2. Is it true that installing them leads to more problems than before
>> installing them?

>
> Of course not.
>
>>
>> Thanks in advance

>
> No problem. Glad to help.
>
>
 
Frank is dimwitted because he doesn't understand a simple question.

"Frank" <fb@the.bog> wrote in message
news:48402d80$0$31744$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
> Dermot wrote:
>
>> Can anyone tell me the truth about Vista sevice packs:
>> 1. How may are there.
>> 2. Is it true that installing them leads to more problems than before
>> installing them?
>> (Feedback from searchibng the internet)
>>
>> Thanks in advance

>
> Currently there is only one Vista service pack...SP1. It contains all
> previous updates and a few new ones. You should install it because future
> Vista updates may require it being installed before new updates can be
> installed.
> Go here to get a more complete understanding of Vista SP1.
>
> http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/windowsvista/bb738089.aspx
>
> Frank
 
Never take an MVP's advice when asking if a Microsoft product is good or
bad, unless he tells you it's bad.

"Ken Blake, MVP" <kblake@this.is.an.invalid.domain> wrote in message
news:8cb044t31hghfl3vqqb3kebatjiskml653@4ax.com...
> On Fri, 30 May 2008 08:02:00 -0700, Dermot
> <Dermot@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
>
>> Can anyone tell me the truth about Vista sevice packs:

>
>> 1. How may are there.

>
>
> One. It was just released a few weeks ago.
>
>
>> 2. Is it true that installing them leads to more problems than before
>> installing them?
>> (Feedback from searchibng the internet)

>
>
>
> Of course not. The idea is nonsense. Whenever anything new comes
> out--whether it's a service pack, an individual hotfix, or a whole new
> operating system--there are always a certain number of people who have
> problems with it--because they've installed it wrong, because they
> have an unusual combination of hardware components, because they are
> uninfected with malware, or because of any of a number of other
> possible reasons. Yes, you see problems when searching the internet
> the people with these problems are the most vocal because they are the
> ones who are looking for solutions to their problems. But the great
> majority of people have no problems at all.
>
> Vista SP1 works just fine here, as do all three service packs I've
> installed on my XP machines.
>
> --
> Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience
> Please Reply to the Newsgroup
 
"Mark" <markshark@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Never take an MVP's advice when asking if a Microsoft product is good or
> bad, unless he tells you it's bad.
>


So why are you using Hotmail then? Dork.
 
You stupid MVP wannabe, you think that's my email address? Dermot, don't
listen to Gordon either. He's dumber than a box of rocks.

"Gordon" <gbplinux@gmail.com.invalid> wrote in message
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> "Mark" <markshark@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:uJkk4znwIHA.4476@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> Never take an MVP's advice when asking if a Microsoft product is good or
>> bad, unless he tells you it's bad.
>>

>
> So why are you using Hotmail then? Dork.
 
Well, I am not an MVP, and can tell you from my experience with Vista
Ultimate 64 bit.

I had no issues with SP1, and it certainly seems to have made it snappier
for me, which it already was anyway. Boot up, shut down, and sleeping are
all quicker now.



--
Don



"Mark" <markshark@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:uJkk4znwIHA.4476@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> Never take an MVP's advice when asking if a Microsoft product is good or
> bad, unless he tells you it's bad.
>
> "Ken Blake, MVP" <kblake@this.is.an.invalid.domain> wrote in message
> news:8cb044t31hghfl3vqqb3kebatjiskml653@4ax.com...
>> On Fri, 30 May 2008 08:02:00 -0700, Dermot
>> <Dermot@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Can anyone tell me the truth about Vista sevice packs:

>>
>>> 1. How may are there.

>>
>>
>> One. It was just released a few weeks ago.
>>
>>
>>> 2. Is it true that installing them leads to more problems than before
>>> installing them?
>>> (Feedback from searchibng the internet)

>>
>>
>>
>> Of course not. The idea is nonsense. Whenever anything new comes
>> out--whether it's a service pack, an individual hotfix, or a whole new
>> operating system--there are always a certain number of people who have
>> problems with it--because they've installed it wrong, because they
>> have an unusual combination of hardware components, because they are
>> uninfected with malware, or because of any of a number of other
>> possible reasons. Yes, you see problems when searching the internet
>> the people with these problems are the most vocal because they are the
>> ones who are looking for solutions to their problems. But the great
>> majority of people have no problems at all.
>>
>> Vista SP1 works just fine here, as do all three service packs I've
>> installed on my XP machines.
>>
>> --
>> Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience
>> Please Reply to the Newsgroup

>
>
 
On Fri, 30 May 2008 09:38:38 -0700, Frank <fb@the.bog> wrote:

>Dermot wrote:
>
>> Can anyone tell me the truth about Vista sevice packs:
>> 1. How may are there.
>> 2. Is it true that installing them leads to more problems than before
>> installing them?
>> (Feedback from searchibng the internet)
>>
>> Thanks in advance

>
>Currently there is only one Vista service pack...SP1. It contains all
>previous updates and a few new ones. You should install it because
>future Vista updates may require it being installed before new updates
>can be installed.
>Go here to get a more complete understanding of Vista SP1.
>
>http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/windowsvista/bb738089.aspx
>
>Frank


Frank is such a slave to Microsoft if they said stick your head in the
toilet, Frank would obey and wonder how long to hold his head under
water.
 
On Fri, 30 May 2008 09:45:09 -0700, "Ken Blake, MVP"
<kblake@this.is.an.invalid.domain> wrote:

>On Fri, 30 May 2008 08:02:00 -0700, Dermot
><Dermot@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
>
>> Can anyone tell me the truth about Vista sevice packs:

>
>> 1. How may are there.

>
>
>One. It was just released a few weeks ago.
>
>
>> 2. Is it true that installing them leads to more problems than before
>> installing them?
>> (Feedback from searchibng the internet)

>
>
>
>Of course not. The idea is nonsense. Whenever anything new comes
>out--whether it's a service pack, an individual hotfix, or a whole new
>operating system--there are always a certain number of people who have
>problems with it--because they've installed it wrong, because they
>have an unusual combination of hardware components, because they are
>uninfected with malware, or because of any of a number of other
>possible reasons.



Oh great all knowing Mr. MVP, explain how you can install a Service
Pack "wrong". I'm sure many would like to know.

After that explain how being "uninfected" with something causes
problems. I'd like to hear that too.
 
On Fri, 30 May 2008 13:45:37 -0400, "Mark" <markshark@hotmail.com>
wrote:

>Never take an MVP's advice when asking if a Microsoft product is good or
>bad, unless he tells you it's bad.


When will Microsoft make the Putz Frank a MVP? That would be a hoot!
 
"Mark" <markshark@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> You stupid MVP wannabe, you think that's my email address? Dermot, don't
> listen to Gordon either. He's dumber than a box of rocks.
>


I climb rocks, you stupid, moronic plonker.
 
Adam Albright wrote:
> On Fri, 30 May 2008 13:45:37 -0400, "Mark" <markshark@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Never take an MVP's advice when asking if a Microsoft product is good or
>> bad, unless he tells you it's bad.

>
> When will Microsoft make the Putz Frank a MVP? That would be a hoot!
>


Even MS isn't *that* stupid.

Alias
 
Mark wrote:
> Frank is dimwitted because he doesn't understand a simple question.
>
> "Frank" <fb@the.bog> wrote in message
> news:48402d80$0$31744$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
>
>>Dermot wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Can anyone tell me the truth about Vista sevice packs:
>>>1. How may are there.
>>>2. Is it true that installing them leads to more problems than before
>>>installing them?
>>> (Feedback from searchibng the internet)
>>>
>>>Thanks in advance

>>
>>Currently there is only one Vista service pack...SP1. It contains all
>>previous updates and a few new ones. You should install it because future
>>Vista updates may require it being installed before new updates can be
>>installed.
>>Go here to get a more complete understanding of Vista SP1.
>>
>>http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/windowsvista/bb738089.aspx
>>
>>Frank

>
>
>



adam albright wants to be your butt-buddy. He also likes sheep!...LOL!
Frank
 
Alias wrote:

> Adam Albright wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 30 May 2008 13:45:37 -0400, "Mark" <markshark@hotmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Never take an MVP's advice when asking if a Microsoft product is good
>>> or bad, unless he tells you it's bad.

>>
>>
>> When will Microsoft make the Putz Frank a MVP? That would be a hoot!
>>

>
> Even MS isn't *that* stupid.
>
> Alias


I thought you kill filed me sheep-fukker?
Too stupid to know how to do that huh? Ask one of your new
butt-buddies...they'll show you the way...hahaha!
You're not that bright are you. In fact, you may be as dumb and stupid
as our mr drunken pig!...LOL!
Frank
 
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