Vista Security is Blocking Me Upgrading My Software

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Roger Stenson

Hi all
I have recently installed a Vista Ready Bridge application stored in
C:\Program Files. The system is Vista Ultimate.

This evening I downloaded an upgrade which failed because the original
application could not be
deleted. I was logged on with my own account which has Admin privileges.

I took personal ownership of the folder and the application, and gave myself
full permission. Although an examination of my effective permissions showed
that I had full control, the system still would not let me delete the file.

I logged on as THE ADMINISTRATOR and took ownership of the folder and the
application. Gave the Administrator full control and he was not allowed to
delete the application although his permissions reflected his ability to do
so.

I removed all disinheritance for the folder in which the application was
stored.

Finally I turned off User Account control on the control panel and at last
managed to achieve a deletion.

Having installed the new application it would not run. because the system
had no allowed access to the folder
By removing inheritance I perceived I might have removed the System
permissions so I gave the System full control and the new application
finally ran
I then turned User Account control back on.


This is a unique event. All my other software upgrades successfully.
However all this took me about an hour. Apart from telling what I could not
do Windows gave me no help whatsoever.
I am reasonably experienced in computers but I am completely befuddled by
the security system in Vista. I can't imagine what is going to happen to my
friends when they convert if they meet this sort of problem.. Somewhere in
the Newsgroup, which I scanned for help Seth wrote . "Yes, safety and
security are painful...". He wasn't kidding I don't consider my
experience reasonable or acceptable.



Can anyone give me some sort of clue as to what was stopping the earlier
version from being upgraded and what security settings are necessary to
avoid this hassle

Roger Stenson
 
"Roger Stenson" <roger@stensons.org.uk> wrote in message
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> Can anyone give me some sort of clue as to what was stopping the earlier
> version from being upgraded and what security settings are necessary to
> avoid this hassle

In Windows Vista applications run as standard user.

You would of needed to elevate the patcher application by right-clicking on
it and selecting Run as administrator. Or whoever the developer is should
design the patcher application to ask for elevation.

--
Paul Smith,
Yeovil, UK.
Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User.
http://www.dasmirnov.net/blog/
http://www.windowsresource.net/

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Thanks very much Paul. I will pass the information on to the author
This was a beta version of a new release and the information will be useful
to him
Roger Stenson

"Paul Smith" . wrote in message
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> "Roger Stenson" <roger@stensons.org.uk> wrote in message
> news:0C5A4AC5-E66B-4414-9201-FF7828A063EA@microsoft.com...
>
>> Can anyone give me some sort of clue as to what was stopping the earlier
>> version from being upgraded and what security settings are necessary to
>> avoid this hassle
>
> In Windows Vista applications run as standard user.
>
> You would of needed to elevate the patcher application by right-clicking
> on it and selecting Run as administrator. Or whoever the developer is
> should design the patcher application to ask for elevation.
>
> --
> Paul Smith,
> Yeovil, UK.
> Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User.
> http://www.dasmirnov.net/blog/
> http://www.windowsresource.net/
>
> *Remove nospam. to reply by e-mail*
>
>
 
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Sometimes downloaded programs will have a spot in the Properties that says
that since this came from another computer the file/folder is locked click
the button to Unlock.

Another way to gain access to modify files and folders includes going to the
Start button, typing in Windows Explorer, right-clicking on this and
selecting Run As Administrator. Even running as an Administrator doesn't
grant you Permissions to modify all files. By Run As Administrator, you
should have "elevated privileges" to do whatever you wish to files and
folders in Windows Explorer. There is also a program called Unlocker that
you can use to gain access to modify files and folders (see link below).

http://ccollomb.free.fr/unlocker/


"Roger Stenson" wrote:

> Thanks very much Paul. I will pass the information on to the author
> This was a beta version of a new release and the information will be useful
> to him
> Roger Stenson
>
> "Paul Smith" . wrote in message
> news:582150F3-770B-4466-9788-54D2537AC979@microsoft.com...
> > "Roger Stenson" <roger@stensons.org.uk> wrote in message
> > news:0C5A4AC5-E66B-4414-9201-FF7828A063EA@microsoft.com...
> >
> >> Can anyone give me some sort of clue as to what was stopping the earlier
> >> version from being upgraded and what security settings are necessary to
> >> avoid this hassle
> >
> > In Windows Vista applications run as standard user.
> >
> > You would of needed to elevate the patcher application by right-clicking
> > on it and selecting Run as administrator. Or whoever the developer is
> > should design the patcher application to ask for elevation.
> >
> > --
> > Paul Smith,
> > Yeovil, UK.
> > Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User.
> > http://www.dasmirnov.net/blog/
> > http://www.windowsresource.net/
> >
> > *Remove nospam. to reply by e-mail*
> >
> >
>
>
 
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