using vmware fusion to run vista on macosx

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Jae Lee

I'm currently using mac os x and using bootcamp to run windows natively
and also run windows using vmware fusion to run VISTA in a virtual machine.

The problem is that although vista runs fine in bootcamp
it asks to authenticate it in vmware mode and if i try it says key is in use.

Is there any way to fix this?
 
"Jae Lee" <Jae Lee@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:4B10F4C6-432D-436F-BB82-7F08F192D149@microsoft.com...
> I'm currently using mac os x and using bootcamp to run windows natively
> and also run windows using vmware fusion to run VISTA in a virtual machine.
>
> The problem is that although vista runs fine in bootcamp
> it asks to authenticate it in vmware mode and if i try it says key is in use.
>
> Is there any way to fix this?

Whether you are running Vista on a physical hard drive
or a virtual one, each need their own key. You need a
license key for each separate install.


-Michael
 
"MICHAEL" wrote:

> "Jae Lee" <Jae Lee@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:4B10F4C6-432D-436F-BB82-7F08F192D149@microsoft.com...
> > I'm currently using mac os x and using bootcamp to run windows natively
> > and also run windows using vmware fusion to run VISTA in a virtual machine.
> >
> > The problem is that although vista runs fine in bootcamp
> > it asks to authenticate it in vmware mode and if i try it says key is in use.
> >
> > Is there any way to fix this?
>
> Whether you are running Vista on a physical hard drive
> or a virtual one, each need their own key. You need a
> license key for each separate install.
>
>
> -Michael
>
>

Do these actually constitute separate installs, seeing as the OS is being
run on the same drive (bootcamp partition) on the same cpu, and is only
accessible via one method at any given time? (not to mention this only
requires the OS to be physically installed one time)
 
Each install of Vista, Windows XP etc. needs it's own license key. This is
true for users of Windows on Windows so it is MOST certainly sure for users
of Windows on Mac's.


"Jay" <Jay@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:CF27B29D-BB61-4153-95C4-DAB53B6DA06A@microsoft.com...
>
>
> "MICHAEL" wrote:
>
>> "Jae Lee" <Jae Lee@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:4B10F4C6-432D-436F-BB82-7F08F192D149@microsoft.com...
>> > I'm currently using mac os x and using bootcamp to run windows natively
>> > and also run windows using vmware fusion to run VISTA in a virtual
>> > machine.
>> >
>> > The problem is that although vista runs fine in bootcamp
>> > it asks to authenticate it in vmware mode and if i try it says key is
>> > in use.
>> >
>> > Is there any way to fix this?
>>
>> Whether you are running Vista on a physical hard drive
>> or a virtual one, each need their own key. You need a
>> license key for each separate install.
>>
>>
>> -Michael
>>
>>
>
> Do these actually constitute separate installs, seeing as the OS is being
> run on the same drive (bootcamp partition) on the same cpu, and is only
> accessible via one method at any given time? (not to mention this only
> requires the OS to be physically installed one time)
>
>
> ---
> avast! Antivirus: Inbound message clean.
> Virus Database (VPS): 080304-0, 03/04/2008
> Tested on: 3/4/2008 2:44:00 AM
> avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2008 ALWIL Software.
> http://www.avast.com
>
>
>



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Jay wrote:

>
>
> "MICHAEL" wrote:
>
>> "Jae Lee" <Jae Lee@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:4B10F4C6-432D-436F-BB82-7F08F192D149@microsoft.com...
>> > I'm currently using mac os x and using bootcamp to run windows natively
>> > and also run windows using vmware fusion to run VISTA in a virtual
>> > machine.
>> >
>> > The problem is that although vista runs fine in bootcamp
>> > it asks to authenticate it in vmware mode and if i try it says key is
>> > in use.
>> >
>> > Is there any way to fix this?
>>
>> Whether you are running Vista on a physical hard drive
>> or a virtual one, each need their own key. You need a
>> license key for each separate install.
>>
>>
>> -Michael
>>
>>
>
> Do these actually constitute separate installs, seeing as the OS is being
> run on the same drive (bootcamp partition) on the same cpu, and is only
> accessible via one method at any given time? (not to mention this only
> requires the OS to be physically installed one time)

Doesn't matter. You MUST pay the Evil Empire to run its slopware. The Empire
needs all the money it can get, so that Bill Gates can donate some of it to
charities and look good, or pay fines for its monopolistic practises.

Cheers.

--
What does Bill Gates use?
http://tinyurl.com/2zxhdl

Proprietary Software: a 20th Century software business model.

Q: What OS is built for lusers?
A: Which one requires running lusermgr.msc to create them?

Frank, hard at work on his Vista computer all day:
http://redwing.hutman.net/~mreed/warriorshtm/compost.htm
 
NoStop wrote:


>
> Doesn't matter. You MUST pay the Evil Empire to run its slopware. The Empire
> needs all the money it can get, so that Bill Gates can donate some of it to
> charities and look good, or pay fines for its monopolistic practises.
>
> Cheers.
>

Translation: nostop aka doris, one of our resident lying linux troll, is
jealous of those of us who can afford to purchase Vista.
However, there is hope! He recently got a job at burger-doodle. He was
the lot and lobby boy but has been promoted to the deep fryer. His new
motto is..."do you want fries with your order"?...LOL!
So he's saving up to purchase a copy of the best best OS available
today...VISTA!!!
Frank
 
Frank wrote:

> NoStop wrote:
>
>
>>
>> Doesn't matter. You MUST pay the Evil Empire to run its slopware. The
>> Empire needs all the money it can get, so that Bill Gates can donate some
>> of it to charities and look good, or pay fines for its monopolistic
>> practises.
>>
>> Cheers.
>>
>
> Translation: nostop aka doris, one of our resident lying linux troll, is
> jealous of those of us who can afford to purchase Vista.
> However, there is hope! He recently got a job at burger-doodle. He was
> the lot and lobby boy but has been promoted to the deep fryer. His new
> motto is..."do you want fries with your order"?...LOL!
> So he's saving up to purchase a copy of the best best OS available
> today...VISTA!!!
> Frank

In some circles, plagiarism is the highest form of flattery. Nice to see
that you continue to plagiarize all the comments I've left about you in the
past. Plagiarism also reflects the inability of someone to come up with
anything original, and in YOUR case that's obvious.

Cheers and LOL!

--
What does Bill Gates use?
http://tinyurl.com/2zxhdl

Proprietary Software: a 20th Century software business model.

Q: What OS is built for lusers?
A: Which one requires running lusermgr.msc to create them?

Frank, hard at work on his Vista computer all day:
http://redwing.hutman.net/~mreed/warriorshtm/compost.htm
 
NoStop wrote:


>
>
> In some circles, plagiarism is the highest form of flattery.

So you think running in a circle makes you a wheel...LOL!
Frank
 
Frank wrote:

> NoStop wrote:
>
>
>>
>>
>> In some circles, plagiarism is the highest form of flattery.
>
> So you think running in a circle makes you a wheel...LOL!
> Frank

Good one Francis. Geez, you can say something original. Maybe?

Cheers.

--
What does Bill Gates use?
http://tinyurl.com/2zxhdl

Proprietary Software: a 20th Century software business model.

Q: What OS is built for lusers?
A: Which one requires running lusermgr.msc to create them?

Frank, hard at work on his Vista computer all day:
http://redwing.hutman.net/~mreed/warriorshtm/compost.htm
 
I have the same issue and have Windows Vista Ultimate. I would disagree with
Richard's assessment that in this situation constitutes two installs.

My understanding is that the EULA allows you to run Vista Ultimate virtually
as well without having to purchase another license key. Additionally this
technically is ONE install so should be moot- I am using and accessing the
same install of Vista, just one via bootcamp and the other via Fusion.

Does anyone have any update on this?

"Richard Urban" wrote:

> Each install of Vista, Windows XP etc. needs it's own license key. This is
> true for users of Windows on Windows so it is MOST certainly sure for users
> of Windows on Mac's.
>
>
> "Jay" <Jay@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:CF27B29D-BB61-4153-95C4-DAB53B6DA06A@microsoft.com...
> >
> >
> > "MICHAEL" wrote:
> >
> >> "Jae Lee" <Jae Lee@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> news:4B10F4C6-432D-436F-BB82-7F08F192D149@microsoft.com...
> >> > I'm currently using mac os x and using bootcamp to run windows natively
> >> > and also run windows using vmware fusion to run VISTA in a virtual
> >> > machine.
> >> >
> >> > The problem is that although vista runs fine in bootcamp
> >> > it asks to authenticate it in vmware mode and if i try it says key is
> >> > in use.
> >> >
> >> > Is there any way to fix this?
> >>
> >> Whether you are running Vista on a physical hard drive
> >> or a virtual one, each need their own key. You need a
> >> license key for each separate install.
> >>
> >>
> >> -Michael
> >>
> >>
> >
> > Do these actually constitute separate installs, seeing as the OS is being
> > run on the same drive (bootcamp partition) on the same cpu, and is only
> > accessible via one method at any given time? (not to mention this only
> > requires the OS to be physically installed one time)
> >
> >
> > ---
> > avast! Antivirus: Inbound message clean.
> > Virus Database (VPS): 080304-0, 03/04/2008
> > Tested on: 3/4/2008 2:44:00 AM
> > avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2008 ALWIL Software.
> > http://www.avast.com
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
> ---
> avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean.
> Virus Database (VPS): 080304-0, 03/04/2008
> Tested on: 3/4/2008 2:47:57 AM
> avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2008 ALWIL Software.
> http://www.avast.com
>
>
>
>
 
Hi Larry,

Your understanding of the EULA is incorrect. The phrase addressing this in
the license agreement is frequently misinterpreted to infer that it allows
for both simultaneously but it doesn't. The Ultimate license provides for
installing either physically or virtually, but not both at the same time. A
single installation to a single device, it doesn't matter whether the device
is a physical or virtual one. Technically, it's two installs no matter how
you look at it. This also applies to Business and Enterprise. Initially, a
Home license did not allow for a virtual install at all, but I understand
that this is being changed.

--
Best of Luck,

Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
My thoughts http://rick-mvp.blogspot.com

"Larry A" <LarryA@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:D7B194FA-1727-4648-9EEF-461FB48B1075@microsoft.com...
>I have the same issue and have Windows Vista Ultimate. I would disagree
>with
> Richard's assessment that in this situation constitutes two installs.
>
> My understanding is that the EULA allows you to run Vista Ultimate
> virtually
> as well without having to purchase another license key. Additionally this
> technically is ONE install so should be moot- I am using and accessing
> the
> same install of Vista, just one via bootcamp and the other via Fusion.
>
> Does anyone have any update on this?
>
> "Richard Urban" wrote:
>
>> Each install of Vista, Windows XP etc. needs it's own license key. This
>> is
>> true for users of Windows on Windows so it is MOST certainly sure for
>> users
>> of Windows on Mac's.
>>
>>
>> "Jay" <Jay@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:CF27B29D-BB61-4153-95C4-DAB53B6DA06A@microsoft.com...
>> >
>> >
>> > "MICHAEL" wrote:
>> >
>> >> "Jae Lee" <Jae Lee@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> >> news:4B10F4C6-432D-436F-BB82-7F08F192D149@microsoft.com...
>> >> > I'm currently using mac os x and using bootcamp to run windows
>> >> > natively
>> >> > and also run windows using vmware fusion to run VISTA in a virtual
>> >> > machine.
>> >> >
>> >> > The problem is that although vista runs fine in bootcamp
>> >> > it asks to authenticate it in vmware mode and if i try it says key
>> >> > is
>> >> > in use.
>> >> >
>> >> > Is there any way to fix this?
>> >>
>> >> Whether you are running Vista on a physical hard drive
>> >> or a virtual one, each need their own key. You need a
>> >> license key for each separate install.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> -Michael
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> > Do these actually constitute separate installs, seeing as the OS is
>> > being
>> > run on the same drive (bootcamp partition) on the same cpu, and is only
>> > accessible via one method at any given time? (not to mention this only
>> > requires the OS to be physically installed one time)
>> >
>> >
>> > ---
>> > avast! Antivirus: Inbound message clean.
>> > Virus Database (VPS): 080304-0, 03/04/2008
>> > Tested on: 3/4/2008 2:44:00 AM
>> > avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2008 ALWIL Software.
>> > http://www.avast.com
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>> ---
>> avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean.
>> Virus Database (VPS): 080304-0, 03/04/2008
>> Tested on: 3/4/2008 2:47:57 AM
>> avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2008 ALWIL Software.
>> http://www.avast.com
>>
>>
>>
>>
 
Thanks for the response Rick.

However, I would argue that I only installed it once, and I am not
accessing it at the same time. I either access it virtually via VMWare Fusion
or I reboot my machine and access the _same_ partition via bootcamp. I never
access that single vista at the same time. So shouldn't that mean that I
should be able to use it that way according to the EULA?



"Rick Rogers" wrote:

> Hi Larry,
>
> Your understanding of the EULA is incorrect. The phrase addressing this in
> the license agreement is frequently misinterpreted to infer that it allows
> for both simultaneously but it doesn't. The Ultimate license provides for
> installing either physically or virtually, but not both at the same time. A
> single installation to a single device, it doesn't matter whether the device
> is a physical or virtual one. Technically, it's two installs no matter how
> you look at it. This also applies to Business and Enterprise. Initially, a
> Home license did not allow for a virtual install at all, but I understand
> that this is being changed.
>
> --
> Best of Luck,
>
> Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
> Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
> My thoughts http://rick-mvp.blogspot.com
>
> "Larry A" <LarryA@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:D7B194FA-1727-4648-9EEF-461FB48B1075@microsoft.com...
> >I have the same issue and have Windows Vista Ultimate. I would disagree
> >with
> > Richard's assessment that in this situation constitutes two installs.
> >
> > My understanding is that the EULA allows you to run Vista Ultimate
> > virtually
> > as well without having to purchase another license key. Additionally this
> > technically is ONE install so should be moot- I am using and accessing
> > the
> > same install of Vista, just one via bootcamp and the other via Fusion.
> >
> > Does anyone have any update on this?
> >
> > "Richard Urban" wrote:
> >
> >> Each install of Vista, Windows XP etc. needs it's own license key. This
> >> is
> >> true for users of Windows on Windows so it is MOST certainly sure for
> >> users
> >> of Windows on Mac's.
> >>
> >>
> >> "Jay" <Jay@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> news:CF27B29D-BB61-4153-95C4-DAB53B6DA06A@microsoft.com...
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > "MICHAEL" wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> "Jae Lee" <Jae Lee@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> >> news:4B10F4C6-432D-436F-BB82-7F08F192D149@microsoft.com...
> >> >> > I'm currently using mac os x and using bootcamp to run windows
> >> >> > natively
> >> >> > and also run windows using vmware fusion to run VISTA in a virtual
> >> >> > machine.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > The problem is that although vista runs fine in bootcamp
> >> >> > it asks to authenticate it in vmware mode and if i try it says key
> >> >> > is
> >> >> > in use.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Is there any way to fix this?
> >> >>
> >> >> Whether you are running Vista on a physical hard drive
> >> >> or a virtual one, each need their own key. You need a
> >> >> license key for each separate install.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> -Michael
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> > Do these actually constitute separate installs, seeing as the OS is
> >> > being
> >> > run on the same drive (bootcamp partition) on the same cpu, and is only
> >> > accessible via one method at any given time? (not to mention this only
> >> > requires the OS to be physically installed one time)
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > ---
> >> > avast! Antivirus: Inbound message clean.
> >> > Virus Database (VPS): 080304-0, 03/04/2008
> >> > Tested on: 3/4/2008 2:44:00 AM
> >> > avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2008 ALWIL Software.
> >> > http://www.avast.com
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> ---
> >> avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean.
> >> Virus Database (VPS): 080304-0, 03/04/2008
> >> Tested on: 3/4/2008 2:47:57 AM
> >> avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2008 ALWIL Software.
> >> http://www.avast.com
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
>
>
 
If you are accessing and running the same installation via two different
methods, then I would agree with your assessment, Larry.

What is not allowed is installing both physically and virtually on the same
or different systems without a volume or additional licenses. EG: installing
to one volume, then installing into a VM in another OS on a different
volume, or even on a VM within the same volume. It wouldn't matter whether
or not you were using both installs at the same time, it's the number of
installations that matters.

--
Best of Luck,

Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
My thoughts http://rick-mvp.blogspot.com

"Larry A" <LarryA@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:155AC261-703B-4632-9A1A-545F1E61D500@microsoft.com...
> Thanks for the response Rick.
>
> However, I would argue that I only installed it once, and I am not
> accessing it at the same time. I either access it virtually via VMWare
> Fusion
> or I reboot my machine and access the _same_ partition via bootcamp. I
> never
> access that single vista at the same time. So shouldn't that mean that I
> should be able to use it that way according to the EULA?
>
>
>
> "Rick Rogers" wrote:
>
>> Hi Larry,
>>
>> Your understanding of the EULA is incorrect. The phrase addressing this
>> in
>> the license agreement is frequently misinterpreted to infer that it
>> allows
>> for both simultaneously but it doesn't. The Ultimate license provides for
>> installing either physically or virtually, but not both at the same time.
>> A
>> single installation to a single device, it doesn't matter whether the
>> device
>> is a physical or virtual one. Technically, it's two installs no matter
>> how
>> you look at it. This also applies to Business and Enterprise. Initially,
>> a
>> Home license did not allow for a virtual install at all, but I understand
>> that this is being changed.
>>
>> --
>> Best of Luck,
>>
>> Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
>> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
>> Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
>> My thoughts http://rick-mvp.blogspot.com
>>
>> "Larry A" <LarryA@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:D7B194FA-1727-4648-9EEF-461FB48B1075@microsoft.com...
>> >I have the same issue and have Windows Vista Ultimate. I would disagree
>> >with
>> > Richard's assessment that in this situation constitutes two installs.
>> >
>> > My understanding is that the EULA allows you to run Vista Ultimate
>> > virtually
>> > as well without having to purchase another license key. Additionally
>> > this
>> > technically is ONE install so should be moot- I am using and accessing
>> > the
>> > same install of Vista, just one via bootcamp and the other via Fusion.
>> >
>> > Does anyone have any update on this?
>> >
>> > "Richard Urban" wrote:
>> >
>> >> Each install of Vista, Windows XP etc. needs it's own license key.
>> >> This
>> >> is
>> >> true for users of Windows on Windows so it is MOST certainly sure for
>> >> users
>> >> of Windows on Mac's.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> "Jay" <Jay@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> >> news:CF27B29D-BB61-4153-95C4-DAB53B6DA06A@microsoft.com...
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > "MICHAEL" wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> "Jae Lee" <Jae Lee@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> >> >> news:4B10F4C6-432D-436F-BB82-7F08F192D149@microsoft.com...
>> >> >> > I'm currently using mac os x and using bootcamp to run windows
>> >> >> > natively
>> >> >> > and also run windows using vmware fusion to run VISTA in a
>> >> >> > virtual
>> >> >> > machine.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > The problem is that although vista runs fine in bootcamp
>> >> >> > it asks to authenticate it in vmware mode and if i try it says
>> >> >> > key
>> >> >> > is
>> >> >> > in use.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Is there any way to fix this?
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Whether you are running Vista on a physical hard drive
>> >> >> or a virtual one, each need their own key. You need a
>> >> >> license key for each separate install.
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> -Michael
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >
>> >> > Do these actually constitute separate installs, seeing as the OS is
>> >> > being
>> >> > run on the same drive (bootcamp partition) on the same cpu, and is
>> >> > only
>> >> > accessible via one method at any given time? (not to mention this
>> >> > only
>> >> > requires the OS to be physically installed one time)
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > ---
>> >> > avast! Antivirus: Inbound message clean.
>> >> > Virus Database (VPS): 080304-0, 03/04/2008
>> >> > Tested on: 3/4/2008 2:44:00 AM
>> >> > avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2008 ALWIL Software.
>> >> > http://www.avast.com
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> ---
>> >> avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean.
>> >> Virus Database (VPS): 080304-0, 03/04/2008
>> >> Tested on: 3/4/2008 2:47:57 AM
>> >> avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2008 ALWIL Software.
>> >> http://www.avast.com
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>>
>>
 
I wonder if there's any clarification from Microsoft about this? So far I
can't find anything and seems like a lot of other mac bootcamp/fusion
bootcamp/parallel users are frustrated with the licensing..

"Rick Rogers" wrote:

> If you are accessing and running the same installation via two different
> methods, then I would agree with your assessment, Larry.
>
> What is not allowed is installing both physically and virtually on the same
> or different systems without a volume or additional licenses. EG: installing
> to one volume, then installing into a VM in another OS on a different
> volume, or even on a VM within the same volume. It wouldn't matter whether
> or not you were using both installs at the same time, it's the number of
> installations that matters.
>
> --
> Best of Luck,
>
> Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
> Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
> My thoughts http://rick-mvp.blogspot.com
>
> "Larry A" <LarryA@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:155AC261-703B-4632-9A1A-545F1E61D500@microsoft.com...
> > Thanks for the response Rick.
> >
> > However, I would argue that I only installed it once, and I am not
> > accessing it at the same time. I either access it virtually via VMWare
> > Fusion
> > or I reboot my machine and access the _same_ partition via bootcamp. I
> > never
> > access that single vista at the same time. So shouldn't that mean that I
> > should be able to use it that way according to the EULA?
> >
> >
> >
> > "Rick Rogers" wrote:
> >
> >> Hi Larry,
> >>
> >> Your understanding of the EULA is incorrect. The phrase addressing this
> >> in
> >> the license agreement is frequently misinterpreted to infer that it
> >> allows
> >> for both simultaneously but it doesn't. The Ultimate license provides for
> >> installing either physically or virtually, but not both at the same time.
> >> A
> >> single installation to a single device, it doesn't matter whether the
> >> device
> >> is a physical or virtual one. Technically, it's two installs no matter
> >> how
> >> you look at it. This also applies to Business and Enterprise. Initially,
> >> a
> >> Home license did not allow for a virtual install at all, but I understand
> >> that this is being changed.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Best of Luck,
> >>
> >> Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
> >> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
> >> Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
> >> My thoughts http://rick-mvp.blogspot.com
> >>
> >> "Larry A" <LarryA@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> news:D7B194FA-1727-4648-9EEF-461FB48B1075@microsoft.com...
> >> >I have the same issue and have Windows Vista Ultimate. I would disagree
> >> >with
> >> > Richard's assessment that in this situation constitutes two installs.
> >> >
> >> > My understanding is that the EULA allows you to run Vista Ultimate
> >> > virtually
> >> > as well without having to purchase another license key. Additionally
> >> > this
> >> > technically is ONE install so should be moot- I am using and accessing
> >> > the
> >> > same install of Vista, just one via bootcamp and the other via Fusion.
> >> >
> >> > Does anyone have any update on this?
> >> >
> >> > "Richard Urban" wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Each install of Vista, Windows XP etc. needs it's own license key.
> >> >> This
> >> >> is
> >> >> true for users of Windows on Windows so it is MOST certainly sure for
> >> >> users
> >> >> of Windows on Mac's.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> "Jay" <Jay@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> >> news:CF27B29D-BB61-4153-95C4-DAB53B6DA06A@microsoft.com...
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > "MICHAEL" wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> "Jae Lee" <Jae Lee@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> >> >> news:4B10F4C6-432D-436F-BB82-7F08F192D149@microsoft.com...
> >> >> >> > I'm currently using mac os x and using bootcamp to run windows
> >> >> >> > natively
> >> >> >> > and also run windows using vmware fusion to run VISTA in a
> >> >> >> > virtual
> >> >> >> > machine.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > The problem is that although vista runs fine in bootcamp
> >> >> >> > it asks to authenticate it in vmware mode and if i try it says
> >> >> >> > key
> >> >> >> > is
> >> >> >> > in use.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > Is there any way to fix this?
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Whether you are running Vista on a physical hard drive
> >> >> >> or a virtual one, each need their own key. You need a
> >> >> >> license key for each separate install.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> -Michael
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Do these actually constitute separate installs, seeing as the OS is
> >> >> > being
> >> >> > run on the same drive (bootcamp partition) on the same cpu, and is
> >> >> > only
> >> >> > accessible via one method at any given time? (not to mention this
> >> >> > only
> >> >> > requires the OS to be physically installed one time)
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > ---
> >> >> > avast! Antivirus: Inbound message clean.
> >> >> > Virus Database (VPS): 080304-0, 03/04/2008
> >> >> > Tested on: 3/4/2008 2:44:00 AM
> >> >> > avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2008 ALWIL Software.
> >> >> > http://www.avast.com
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> ---
> >> >> avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean.
> >> >> Virus Database (VPS): 080304-0, 03/04/2008
> >> >> Tested on: 3/4/2008 2:47:57 AM
> >> >> avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2008 ALWIL Software.
> >> >> http://www.avast.com
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >>
> >>
>
>
 
Hi,

There's nothing that addresses it as far as I know. The EULA states the
license is for a single installation on a single device. Whether that
installation is loaded physically or virtually is not a consideration.

--
Best of Luck,

Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
My thoughts http://rick-mvp.blogspot.com

"Larry A" <LarryA@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:3C44A645-5644-4146-A9D6-50E05AA54E00@microsoft.com...
>I wonder if there's any clarification from Microsoft about this? So far I
> can't find anything and seems like a lot of other mac bootcamp/fusion
> bootcamp/parallel users are frustrated with the licensing..
>
> "Rick Rogers" wrote:
>
>> If you are accessing and running the same installation via two different
>> methods, then I would agree with your assessment, Larry.
>>
>> What is not allowed is installing both physically and virtually on the
>> same
>> or different systems without a volume or additional licenses. EG:
>> installing
>> to one volume, then installing into a VM in another OS on a different
>> volume, or even on a VM within the same volume. It wouldn't matter
>> whether
>> or not you were using both installs at the same time, it's the number of
>> installations that matters.
>>
>> --
>> Best of Luck,
>>
>> Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
>> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
>> Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
>> My thoughts http://rick-mvp.blogspot.com
>>
>> "Larry A" <LarryA@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:155AC261-703B-4632-9A1A-545F1E61D500@microsoft.com...
>> > Thanks for the response Rick.
>> >
>> > However, I would argue that I only installed it once, and I am not
>> > accessing it at the same time. I either access it virtually via VMWare
>> > Fusion
>> > or I reboot my machine and access the _same_ partition via bootcamp. I
>> > never
>> > access that single vista at the same time. So shouldn't that mean that
>> > I
>> > should be able to use it that way according to the EULA?
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > "Rick Rogers" wrote:
>> >
>> >> Hi Larry,
>> >>
>> >> Your understanding of the EULA is incorrect. The phrase addressing
>> >> this
>> >> in
>> >> the license agreement is frequently misinterpreted to infer that it
>> >> allows
>> >> for both simultaneously but it doesn't. The Ultimate license provides
>> >> for
>> >> installing either physically or virtually, but not both at the same
>> >> time.
>> >> A
>> >> single installation to a single device, it doesn't matter whether the
>> >> device
>> >> is a physical or virtual one. Technically, it's two installs no matter
>> >> how
>> >> you look at it. This also applies to Business and Enterprise.
>> >> Initially,
>> >> a
>> >> Home license did not allow for a virtual install at all, but I
>> >> understand
>> >> that this is being changed.
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Best of Luck,
>> >>
>> >> Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
>> >> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
>> >> Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
>> >> My thoughts http://rick-mvp.blogspot.com
>> >>
>> >> "Larry A" <LarryA@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> >> news:D7B194FA-1727-4648-9EEF-461FB48B1075@microsoft.com...
>> >> >I have the same issue and have Windows Vista Ultimate. I would
>> >> >disagree
>> >> >with
>> >> > Richard's assessment that in this situation constitutes two
>> >> > installs.
>> >> >
>> >> > My understanding is that the EULA allows you to run Vista Ultimate
>> >> > virtually
>> >> > as well without having to purchase another license key. Additionally
>> >> > this
>> >> > technically is ONE install so should be moot- I am using and
>> >> > accessing
>> >> > the
>> >> > same install of Vista, just one via bootcamp and the other via
>> >> > Fusion.
>> >> >
>> >> > Does anyone have any update on this?
>> >> >
>> >> > "Richard Urban" wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> Each install of Vista, Windows XP etc. needs it's own license key.
>> >> >> This
>> >> >> is
>> >> >> true for users of Windows on Windows so it is MOST certainly sure
>> >> >> for
>> >> >> users
>> >> >> of Windows on Mac's.
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> "Jay" <Jay@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> >> >> news:CF27B29D-BB61-4153-95C4-DAB53B6DA06A@microsoft.com...
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > "MICHAEL" wrote:
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> "Jae Lee" <Jae Lee@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> >> >> >> news:4B10F4C6-432D-436F-BB82-7F08F192D149@microsoft.com...
>> >> >> >> > I'm currently using mac os x and using bootcamp to run windows
>> >> >> >> > natively
>> >> >> >> > and also run windows using vmware fusion to run VISTA in a
>> >> >> >> > virtual
>> >> >> >> > machine.
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > The problem is that although vista runs fine in bootcamp
>> >> >> >> > it asks to authenticate it in vmware mode and if i try it says
>> >> >> >> > key
>> >> >> >> > is
>> >> >> >> > in use.
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > Is there any way to fix this?
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Whether you are running Vista on a physical hard drive
>> >> >> >> or a virtual one, each need their own key. You need a
>> >> >> >> license key for each separate install.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> -Michael
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Do these actually constitute separate installs, seeing as the OS
>> >> >> > is
>> >> >> > being
>> >> >> > run on the same drive (bootcamp partition) on the same cpu, and
>> >> >> > is
>> >> >> > only
>> >> >> > accessible via one method at any given time? (not to mention this
>> >> >> > only
>> >> >> > requires the OS to be physically installed one time)
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > ---
>> >> >> > avast! Antivirus: Inbound message clean.
>> >> >> > Virus Database (VPS): 080304-0, 03/04/2008
>> >> >> > Tested on: 3/4/2008 2:44:00 AM
>> >> >> > avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2008 ALWIL Software.
>> >> >> > http://www.avast.com
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> ---
>> >> >> avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean.
>> >> >> Virus Database (VPS): 080304-0, 03/04/2008
>> >> >> Tested on: 3/4/2008 2:47:57 AM
>> >> >> avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2008 ALWIL Software.
>> >> >> http://www.avast.com
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>>
>>
 
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