UDMA goofed up (I think)

[Chuck]

Hi, all. Here's my dilemma.
I was using my boy's PC the other day to rip a DVD, when I noticed his drive
was running at least 2x what mine does. SO I got to poking around in my
system info, and found many strange things. Both my HDDs are running at a
lower UDMA mode than they are rated for. In fact, one is, I believe, running
in PIO, and defeats all attempts to reset it. Here is info, taken from
EVEREST:

Computer:
Operating System Microsoft Windows XP
Home Edition
OS Service Pack Service Pack 2
DirectX 4.09.00.0904
(DirectX 9.0c)
Computer Name PC1 (Our PC)
User Name Chuck

Motherboard:
CPU Type Intel Pentium 4,
2800 MHz (14 x 200)
Motherboard Name Dell Dimension 4600i
Motherboard Chipset Intel Springdale-G
i865G
System Memory 1024 MB (PC3200 DDR
SDRAM)
BIOS Type Phoenix (08/26/04)

Storage:
IDE Controller Intel(R) 82801EB
Ultra ATA Storage Controllers
IDE Controller Intel(R) 82801EB
Ultra ATA Storage Controllers
Disk Drive ST380011A (80 GB,
7200 RPM, Ultra-ATA/100)
Disk Drive HDT722516DLAT80
(160 GB, 7200 RPM, Ultra-ATA/133)
Optical Drive LITE-ON DVDRW
SOHW-1693S


[ ST380011A (3JV9C0LL) ]

ATA Device Properties:
Model ID ST380011A
Serial Number 3JV9C0LL
Revision 3.16
Parameters 155010 cylinders, 16
heads, 63 sectors per track, 512 bytes per sector
LBA Sectors 156250000
Buffer 2 MB
Multiple Sectors 16
ECC Bytes 4
Max. PIO Transfer Mode PIO 4
Max. UDMA Transfer Mode UDMA 5 (ATA-100)
Active UDMA Transfer Mode UDMA 2 (ATA-33)
Unformatted Capacity 76294 MB

ATA Device Features:
SMART Supported
Security Mode Supported
Power Management Supported
Advanced Power Management Not Supported
Write Cache Supported
Host Protected Area Supported
Power-Up In Standby Not Supported
Automatic Acoustic Management Supported
48-bit LBA Supported
Device Configuration Overlay Supported


[ HDT722516DLAT80 (VD0D1CTCDK8WLE) ]

ATA Device Properties:
Model ID HDT722516DLAT80
Serial Number VD0D1CTCDK8WLE
Revision V43OA70A
Parameters 319120 cylinders, 16
heads, 63 sectors per track, 512 bytes per sector
LBA Sectors 321672960
Buffer 7674 KB (Dual
Ported, Read Ahead)
Multiple Sectors 16
ECC Bytes 51
Max. PIO Transfer Mode PIO 4
Max. UDMA Transfer Mode UDMA 6 (ATA-133)
Active UDMA Transfer Mode UDMA 0
Unformatted Capacity 157067 MB

ATA Device Features:
SMART Supported
Security Mode Supported
Power Management Supported
Advanced Power Management Supported
Write Cache Supported
Host Protected Area Supported
Power-Up In Standby Supported
Automatic Acoustic Management Supported
48-bit LBA Supported
Device Configuration Overlay Supported


As you can see, one's slow, one seems to be in totally non-UDMA mode. In
Device Mgr, under Primary IDE Channel, Device 0 seems to correspond to the
ST3800, and is shown at UDMA 2. Device 1 is shown as PIO [Transfer ModeMA
if available], with no option to change it. I am at a total loss. I've tried
everything I can think of, from uninstalling the HDD and rebooting in hopes
it would redetect the UDMA settings,. to registry editing. Nothing works.
Help!!

Chuck

 

[Gerry]

http://seagate.custhelp.com/cgi-bin...XJjaF90ZXh0PXdyb25nIG1vZGU*&p_li=&p_topview=1

Try running HD Tune(freeware).

Download and run it and see what it turns up.
http://www.hdtune.com/

Select the Info tabs and place the cursor on the drive under Drive
letter and then double click the two page icon ( copy to Clipboard )
and copy into a further message.

Select the Health tab and then double click the two page icon ( copy
to Clipboard ) and copy into a further message. Also do a full surface
scan with HD Tune.


--



Hope this helps.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Chuck wrote:
> Hi, all. Here's my dilemma.
> I was using my boy's PC the other day to rip a DVD, when I noticed
> his drive was running at least 2x what mine does. SO I got to poking
> around in my system info, and found many strange things. Both my HDDs
> are running at a lower UDMA mode than they are rated for. In fact,
> one is, I believe, running in PIO, and defeats all attempts to reset
> it. Here is info, taken from EVEREST:
>
> Computer:
> Operating System Microsoft
> Windows XP Home Edition
> OS Service Pack Service Pack 2
> DirectX 4.09.00.0904
> (DirectX 9.0c)
> Computer Name PC1 (Our PC)
> User Name Chuck
>
> Motherboard:
> CPU Type Intel Pentium
> 4, 2800 MHz (14 x 200)
> Motherboard Name Dell Dimension
> 4600i Motherboard Chipset Intel
> Springdale-G
> i865G
> System Memory 1024 MB
> (PC3200 DDR SDRAM)
> BIOS Type Phoenix
> (08/26/04)
>
> Storage:
> IDE Controller Intel(R)
> 82801EB Ultra ATA Storage Controllers
> IDE Controller Intel(R)
> 82801EB Ultra ATA Storage Controllers
> Disk Drive ST380011A (80
> GB, 7200 RPM, Ultra-ATA/100)
> Disk Drive HDT722516DLAT80
> (160 GB, 7200 RPM, Ultra-ATA/133)
> Optical Drive LITE-ON DVDRW
> SOHW-1693S
>
>
> [ ST380011A (3JV9C0LL) ]
>
> ATA Device Properties:
> Model ID ST380011A
> Serial Number 3JV9C0LL
> Revision 3.16
> Parameters 155010
> cylinders, 16 heads, 63 sectors per track, 512 bytes per sector
> LBA Sectors 156250000
> Buffer 2 MB
> Multiple Sectors 16
> ECC Bytes 4
> Max. PIO Transfer Mode PIO 4
> Max. UDMA Transfer Mode UDMA 5
> (ATA-100) Active UDMA Transfer Mode UDMA
> 2 (ATA-33) Unformatted Capacity
> 76294 MB
>
> ATA Device Features:
> SMART Supported
> Security Mode Supported
> Power Management Supported
> Advanced Power Management Not Supported
> Write Cache Supported
> Host Protected Area Supported
> Power-Up In Standby Not Supported
> Automatic Acoustic Management Supported
> 48-bit LBA Supported
> Device Configuration Overlay Supported
>
>
> [ HDT722516DLAT80 (VD0D1CTCDK8WLE) ]
>
> ATA Device Properties:
> Model ID HDT722516DLAT80
> Serial Number VD0D1CTCDK8WLE
> Revision V43OA70A
> Parameters 319120
> cylinders, 16 heads, 63 sectors per track, 512 bytes per sector
> LBA Sectors 321672960
> Buffer 7674 KB (Dual
> Ported, Read Ahead)
> Multiple Sectors 16
> ECC Bytes 51
> Max. PIO Transfer Mode PIO 4
> Max. UDMA Transfer Mode UDMA 6
> (ATA-133) Active UDMA Transfer Mode UDMA
> 0 Unformatted Capacity 157067 MB
>
> ATA Device Features:
> SMART Supported
> Security Mode Supported
> Power Management Supported
> Advanced Power Management Supported
> Write Cache Supported
> Host Protected Area Supported
> Power-Up In Standby Supported
> Automatic Acoustic Management Supported
> 48-bit LBA Supported
> Device Configuration Overlay Supported
>
>
> As you can see, one's slow, one seems to be in totally non-UDMA mode.
> In Device Mgr, under Primary IDE Channel, Device 0 seems to
> correspond to the ST3800, and is shown at UDMA 2. Device 1 is shown
> as PIO [Transfer ModeMA if available], with no option to change it.
> I am at a total loss. I've tried everything I can think of, from
> uninstalling the HDD and rebooting in hopes it would redetect the
> UDMA settings,. to registry editing. Nothing works. Help!!
>
> Chuck

 

[Chuck]

OK--from Health tab:

HD Tune: ST380011A Health

ID Current Worst ThresholdData
Status
(01) Raw Read Error Rate 64 58 6 235338212 Ok

(03) Spin Up Time 98 98 0 0 Ok

(04) Start/Stop Count 100 100 20 276 Ok

(05) Reallocated Sector Count 100 100 36 0 Ok

(07) Seek Error Rate 86 60 30 454928957 Ok

(09) Power On Hours Count 89 89 0 10140 Ok

(0A) Spin Retry Count 100 100 97 0 Ok

(0C) Power Cycle Count 99 99 20 1898 Ok

(C2) Temperature 32 40 0 32 Ok

(C3) Hardware ECC Recovered 64 57 0 235338212 Ok

(C5) Current Pending Sector 100 100 0 0 Ok

(C6) Offline Uncorrectable 100 100 0 0 Ok

(C7) Ultra DMA CRC Error Count 200 200 0 0 Ok

(C8) Write Error Rate 100 253 0 0 Ok

(CA) TA Counter Increased 100 253 0 0 Ok


Power On Time : 10140
Health Status : Ok

AND...

HD Tune: HDT722516DLAT80 Health

ID Current Worst ThresholdData Status

(01) Raw Read Error Rate 100 100 16 0 Ok

(02) Throughput Performance 100 100 50 0 Ok

(03) Spin Up Time 110 110 24 20971836 Ok

(04) Start/Stop Count 100 100 0 410 Ok

(05) Reallocated Sector Count 100 100 5 2 Ok

(07) Seek Error Rate 100 100 67 0 Ok

(08) Seek Time Performance 100 100 20 0 Ok

(09) Power On Hours Count 100 100 0 2237 Ok

(0A) Spin Retry Count 100 100 60 0 Ok

(0C) Power Cycle Count 100 100 0 360 Ok

(C0) Power Off Retract Count 100 100 50 454 Ok

(C1) Load Cycle Count 100 100 50 454 Ok

(C2) Temperature 166 166 0 589857 Ok

(C4) Reallocated Event Count 100 100 0 3 Ok

(C5) Current Pending Sector 100 100 0 0 Ok

(C6) Offline Uncorrectable 100 100 0 0 Ok

(C7) Ultra DMA CRC Error Count 200 253 0 0 Ok


Power On Time : 2237
Health Status : Ok


I'll run a scan later because the smaller of the two drives is still 75GB,
and it'll take all night.

Thanks!

"Gerry" wrote:

> http://seagate.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/seagate.cfg/php/enduser/
std_adp.php?p_faqid=1326&p_created=1041975245&p_sid=Q*ffSNSi&p_accessibility=0&p_redirect=&p_lva=&p_sp=cF9zcmNoPTEmcF9zb3J0X2J5PSZwX2dyaWRzb3J0PSZwX3Jvd19jbnQ9MTY0LDE2NCZwX3Byb2RzPTAmcF9jYXRzPTAmcF9wdj0mcF9jdj0mcF9zZWFyY2hfdHlwZT1hbnN3ZXJzLnNlYXJjaF9ubCZwX3BhZ2U9MSZwX3NlYXJjaF90ZXh0PXdyb25nIG1vZGU*&p_li=&p_topview=1
>
> Try running HD Tune(freeware).
>
> Download and run it and see what it turns up.
> http://www.hdtune.com/
>
> Select the Info tabs and place the cursor on the drive under Drive
> letter and then double click the two page icon ( copy to Clipboard )
> and copy into a further message.
>
> Select the Health tab and then double click the two page icon ( copy
> to Clipboard ) and copy into a further message. Also do a full surface
> scan with HD Tune.
>
>
> --
>
>
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> Gerry
> ~~~~
> FCA
> Stourport, England
> Enquire, plan and execute
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
> Chuck wrote:
> > Hi, all. Here's my dilemma.
> > I was using my boy's PC the other day to rip a DVD, when I noticed
> > his drive was running at least 2x what mine does. SO I got to poking
> > around in my system info, and found many strange things. Both my HDDs
> > are running at a lower UDMA mode than they are rated for. In fact,
> > one is, I believe, running in PIO, and defeats all attempts to reset
> > it. Here is info, taken from EVEREST:
> >
> > Computer:
> > Operating System Microsoft
> > Windows XP Home Edition
> > OS Service Pack Service Pack 2
> > DirectX 4.09.00.0904
> > (DirectX 9.0c)
> > Computer Name PC1 (Our PC)
> > User Name Chuck
> >
> > Motherboard:
> > CPU Type Intel Pentium
> > 4, 2800 MHz (14 x 200)
> > Motherboard Name Dell Dimension
> > 4600i Motherboard Chipset Intel
> > Springdale-G
> > i865G
> > System Memory 1024 MB
> > (PC3200 DDR SDRAM)
> > BIOS Type Phoenix
> > (08/26/04)
> >
> > Storage:
> > IDE Controller Intel(R)
> > 82801EB Ultra ATA Storage Controllers
> > IDE Controller Intel(R)
> > 82801EB Ultra ATA Storage Controllers
> > Disk Drive ST380011A (80
> > GB, 7200 RPM, Ultra-ATA/100)
> > Disk Drive HDT722516DLAT80
> > (160 GB, 7200 RPM, Ultra-ATA/133)
> > Optical Drive LITE-ON DVDRW
> > SOHW-1693S
> >
> >
> > [ ST380011A (3JV9C0LL) ]
> >
> > ATA Device Properties:
> > Model ID ST380011A
> > Serial Number 3JV9C0LL
> > Revision 3.16
> > Parameters 155010
> > cylinders, 16 heads, 63 sectors per track, 512 bytes per sector
> > LBA Sectors 156250000
> > Buffer 2 MB
> > Multiple Sectors 16
> > ECC Bytes 4
> > Max. PIO Transfer Mode PIO 4
> > Max. UDMA Transfer Mode UDMA 5
> > (ATA-100) Active UDMA Transfer Mode UDMA
> > 2 (ATA-33) Unformatted Capacity
> > 76294 MB
> >
> > ATA Device Features:
> > SMART Supported
> > Security Mode Supported
> > Power Management Supported
> > Advanced Power Management Not Supported
> > Write Cache Supported
> > Host Protected Area Supported
> > Power-Up In Standby Not Supported
> > Automatic Acoustic Management Supported
> > 48-bit LBA Supported
> > Device Configuration Overlay Supported
> >
> >
> > [ HDT722516DLAT80 (VD0D1CTCDK8WLE) ]
> >
> > ATA Device Properties:
> > Model ID HDT722516DLAT80
> > Serial Number VD0D1CTCDK8WLE
> > Revision V43OA70A
> > Parameters 319120
> > cylinders, 16 heads, 63 sectors per track, 512 bytes per sector
> > LBA Sectors 321672960
> > Buffer 7674 KB (Dual
> > Ported, Read Ahead)
> > Multiple Sectors 16
> > ECC Bytes 51
> > Max. PIO Transfer Mode PIO 4
> > Max. UDMA Transfer Mode UDMA 6
> > (ATA-133) Active UDMA Transfer Mode UDMA
> > 0 Unformatted Capacity 157067 MB
> >
> > ATA Device Features:
> > SMART Supported
> > Security Mode Supported
> > Power Management Supported
> > Advanced Power Management Supported
> > Write Cache Supported
> > Host Protected Area Supported
> > Power-Up In Standby Supported
> > Automatic Acoustic Management Supported
> > 48-bit LBA Supported
> > Device Configuration Overlay Supported
> >
> >
> > As you can see, one's slow, one seems to be in totally non-UDMA mode.
> > In Device Mgr, under Primary IDE Channel, Device 0 seems to
> > correspond to the ST3800, and is shown at UDMA 2. Device 1 is shown
> > as PIO [Transfer ModeMA if available], with no option to change it.
> > I am at a total loss. I've tried everything I can think of, from
> > uninstalling the HDD and rebooting in hopes it would redetect the
> > UDMA settings,. to registry editing. Nothing works. Help!!
> >
> > Chuck
>
>
>

 

[Gerry]

Chuck

Those reports look fine. Keep up the good work <G>.


--



Hope this helps.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Chuck wrote:
> OK--from Health tab:
>
> HD Tune: ST380011A Health
>
> ID Current Worst ThresholdData
> Status
> (01) Raw Read Error Rate 64 58 6 235338212
> Ok
>
> (03) Spin Up Time 98 98 0 0
> Ok
>
> (04) Start/Stop Count 100 100 20 276
> Ok
>
> (05) Reallocated Sector Count 100 100 36 0
> Ok
>
> (07) Seek Error Rate 86 60 30 454928957
> Ok
>
> (09) Power On Hours Count 89 89 0 10140
> Ok
>
> (0A) Spin Retry Count 100 100 97 0
> Ok
>
> (0C) Power Cycle Count 99 99 20 1898
> Ok
>
> (C2) Temperature 32 40 0 32
> Ok
>
> (C3) Hardware ECC Recovered 64 57 0 235338212
> Ok
>
> (C5) Current Pending Sector 100 100 0 0
> Ok
>
> (C6) Offline Uncorrectable 100 100 0 0
> Ok
>
> (C7) Ultra DMA CRC Error Count 200 200 0 0
> Ok
>
> (C8) Write Error Rate 100 253 0 0
> Ok
>
> (CA) TA Counter Increased 100 253 0 0
> Ok
>
>
> Power On Time : 10140
> Health Status : Ok
>
> AND...
>
> HD Tune: HDT722516DLAT80 Health
>
> ID Current Worst ThresholdData
> Status
>
> (01) Raw Read Error Rate 100 100 16 0
> Ok
>
> (02) Throughput Performance 100 100 50 0
> Ok
>
> (03) Spin Up Time 110 110 24 20971836
> Ok
>
> (04) Start/Stop Count 100 100 0 410
> Ok
>
> (05) Reallocated Sector Count 100 100 5 2
> Ok
>
> (07) Seek Error Rate 100 100 67 0
> Ok
>
> (08) Seek Time Performance 100 100 20 0
> Ok
>
> (09) Power On Hours Count 100 100 0 2237
> Ok
>
> (0A) Spin Retry Count 100 100 60 0
> Ok
>
> (0C) Power Cycle Count 100 100 0 360
> Ok
>
> (C0) Power Off Retract Count 100 100 50 454
> Ok
>
> (C1) Load Cycle Count 100 100 50 454
> Ok
>
> (C2) Temperature 166 166 0 589857
> Ok
>
> (C4) Reallocated Event Count 100 100 0 3
> Ok
>
> (C5) Current Pending Sector 100 100 0 0
> Ok
>
> (C6) Offline Uncorrectable 100 100 0 0
> Ok
>
> (C7) Ultra DMA CRC Error Count 200 253 0 0
> Ok
>
>
> Power On Time : 2237
> Health Status : Ok
>
>
> I'll run a scan later because the smaller of the two drives is still
> 75GB, and it'll take all night.
>
> Thanks!
>
> "Gerry" wrote:
>
>> http://seagate.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/seagate.cfg/php/enduser/
> std_adp.php?p_faqid=1326&p_created=1041975245&p_sid=Q*ffSNSi&p_accessibility=0&p_redirect=&p_lva=&p_sp=cF9zcmNoPTEmcF9zb3J0X2J5PSZwX2dyaWRzb3J0PSZwX3Jvd19jbnQ9MTY0LDE2NCZwX3Byb2RzPTAmcF9jYXRzPTAmcF9wdj0mcF9jdj0mcF9zZWFyY2hfdHlwZT1hbnN3ZXJzLnNlYXJjaF9ubCZwX3BhZ2U9MSZwX3NlYXJjaF90ZXh0PXdyb25nIG1vZGU*&p_li=&p_topview=1
>>
>> Try running HD Tune(freeware).
>>
>> Download and run it and see what it turns up.
>> http://www.hdtune.com/
>>
>> Select the Info tabs and place the cursor on the drive under Drive
>> letter and then double click the two page icon ( copy to Clipboard )
>> and copy into a further message.
>>
>> Select the Health tab and then double click the two page icon ( copy
>> to Clipboard ) and copy into a further message. Also do a full
>> surface scan with HD Tune.
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>>
>>
>> Hope this helps.
>>
>> Gerry
>> ~~~~
>> FCA
>> Stourport, England
>> Enquire, plan and execute
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>
>> Chuck wrote:
>>> Hi, all. Here's my dilemma.
>>> I was using my boy's PC the other day to rip a DVD, when I noticed
>>> his drive was running at least 2x what mine does. SO I got to poking
>>> around in my system info, and found many strange things. Both my
>>> HDDs are running at a lower UDMA mode than they are rated for. In
>>> fact, one is, I believe, running in PIO, and defeats all attempts
>>> to reset it. Here is info, taken from EVEREST:
>>>
>>> Computer:
>>> Operating System Microsoft
>>> Windows XP Home Edition
>>> OS Service Pack Service Pack
>>> 2 DirectX
>>> 4.09.00.0904 (DirectX 9.0c)
>>> Computer Name PC1 (Our PC)
>>> User Name Chuck
>>>
>>> Motherboard:
>>> CPU Type Intel Pentium
>>> 4, 2800 MHz (14 x 200)
>>> Motherboard Name Dell
>>> Dimension 4600i Motherboard Chipset
>>> Intel Springdale-G
>>> i865G
>>> System Memory 1024 MB
>>> (PC3200 DDR SDRAM)
>>> BIOS Type Phoenix
>>> (08/26/04)
>>>
>>> Storage:
>>> IDE Controller Intel(R)
>>> 82801EB Ultra ATA Storage Controllers
>>> IDE Controller Intel(R)
>>> 82801EB Ultra ATA Storage Controllers
>>> Disk Drive ST380011A
>>> (80 GB, 7200 RPM, Ultra-ATA/100)
>>> Disk Drive
>>> HDT722516DLAT80 (160 GB, 7200 RPM, Ultra-ATA/133)
>>> Optical Drive LITE-ON DVDRW
>>> SOHW-1693S
>>>
>>>
>>> [ ST380011A (3JV9C0LL) ]
>>>
>>> ATA Device Properties:
>>> Model ID ST380011A
>>> Serial Number 3JV9C0LL
>>> Revision 3.16
>>> Parameters 155010
>>> cylinders, 16 heads, 63 sectors per track, 512 bytes per sector
>>> LBA Sectors 156250000
>>> Buffer 2 MB
>>> Multiple Sectors 16
>>> ECC Bytes 4
>>> Max. PIO Transfer Mode PIO 4
>>> Max. UDMA Transfer Mode UDMA 5
>>> (ATA-100) Active UDMA Transfer Mode
>>> UDMA 2 (ATA-33) Unformatted Capacity
>>> 76294 MB
>>>
>>> ATA Device Features:
>>> SMART Supported
>>> Security Mode Supported
>>> Power Management Supported
>>> Advanced Power Management Not Supported
>>> Write Cache Supported
>>> Host Protected Area Supported
>>> Power-Up In Standby Not Supported
>>> Automatic Acoustic Management Supported
>>> 48-bit LBA Supported
>>> Device Configuration Overlay Supported
>>>
>>>
>>> [ HDT722516DLAT80 (VD0D1CTCDK8WLE) ]
>>>
>>> ATA Device Properties:
>>> Model ID
>>> HDT722516DLAT80 Serial Number
>>> VD0D1CTCDK8WLE Revision
>>> V43OA70A Parameters
>>> 319120
>>> cylinders, 16 heads, 63 sectors per track, 512 bytes per sector
>>> LBA Sectors 321672960
>>> Buffer 7674 KB (Dual
>>> Ported, Read Ahead)
>>> Multiple Sectors 16
>>> ECC Bytes 51
>>> Max. PIO Transfer Mode PIO 4
>>> Max. UDMA Transfer Mode UDMA 6
>>> (ATA-133) Active UDMA Transfer Mode
>>> UDMA 0 Unformatted Capacity
>>> 157067 MB
>>>
>>> ATA Device Features:
>>> SMART Supported
>>> Security Mode Supported
>>> Power Management Supported
>>> Advanced Power Management Supported
>>> Write Cache Supported
>>> Host Protected Area Supported
>>> Power-Up In Standby Supported
>>> Automatic Acoustic Management Supported
>>> 48-bit LBA Supported
>>> Device Configuration Overlay Supported
>>>
>>>
>>> As you can see, one's slow, one seems to be in totally non-UDMA
>>> mode. In Device Mgr, under Primary IDE Channel, Device 0 seems to
>>> correspond to the ST3800, and is shown at UDMA 2. Device 1 is shown
>>> as PIO [Transfer ModeMA if available], with no option to change
>>> it. I am at a total loss. I've tried everything I can think of, from
>>> uninstalling the HDD and rebooting in hopes it would redetect the
>>> UDMA settings,. to registry editing. Nothing works. Help!!
>>>
>>> Chuck

 

[Chuck]

See, there's where I'm confused. because it's still slow as molasses, still
PIO.

"Gerry" wrote:

> Chuck
>
> Those reports look fine. Keep up the good work <G>.
>
>
> --
>
>
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> Gerry
> ~~~~
> FCA
> Stourport, England
> Enquire, plan and execute
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> Chuck wrote:
> > OK--from Health tab:
> >
> > HD Tune: ST380011A Health
> >
> > ID Current Worst ThresholdData
> > Status
> > (01) Raw Read Error Rate 64 58 6 235338212
> > Ok
> >
> > (03) Spin Up Time 98 98 0 0
> > Ok
> >
> > (04) Start/Stop Count 100 100 20 276
> > Ok
> >
> > (05) Reallocated Sector Count 100 100 36 0
> > Ok
> >
> > (07) Seek Error Rate 86 60 30 454928957
> > Ok
> >
> > (09) Power On Hours Count 89 89 0 10140
> > Ok
> >
> > (0A) Spin Retry Count 100 100 97 0
> > Ok
> >
> > (0C) Power Cycle Count 99 99 20 1898
> > Ok
> >
> > (C2) Temperature 32 40 0 32
> > Ok
> >
> > (C3) Hardware ECC Recovered 64 57 0 235338212
> > Ok
> >
> > (C5) Current Pending Sector 100 100 0 0
> > Ok
> >
> > (C6) Offline Uncorrectable 100 100 0 0
> > Ok
> >
> > (C7) Ultra DMA CRC Error Count 200 200 0 0
> > Ok
> >
> > (C8) Write Error Rate 100 253 0 0
> > Ok
> >
> > (CA) TA Counter Increased 100 253 0 0
> > Ok
> >
> >
> > Power On Time : 10140
> > Health Status : Ok
> >
> > AND...
> >
> > HD Tune: HDT722516DLAT80 Health
> >
> > ID Current Worst ThresholdData
> > Status
> >
> > (01) Raw Read Error Rate 100 100 16 0
> > Ok
> >
> > (02) Throughput Performance 100 100 50 0
> > Ok
> >
> > (03) Spin Up Time 110 110 24 20971836
> > Ok
> >
> > (04) Start/Stop Count 100 100 0 410
> > Ok
> >
> > (05) Reallocated Sector Count 100 100 5 2
> > Ok
> >
> > (07) Seek Error Rate 100 100 67 0
> > Ok
> >
> > (08) Seek Time Performance 100 100 20 0
> > Ok
> >
> > (09) Power On Hours Count 100 100 0 2237
> > Ok
> >
> > (0A) Spin Retry Count 100 100 60 0
> > Ok
> >
> > (0C) Power Cycle Count 100 100 0 360
> > Ok
> >
> > (C0) Power Off Retract Count 100 100 50 454
> > Ok
> >
> > (C1) Load Cycle Count 100 100 50 454
> > Ok
> >
> > (C2) Temperature 166 166 0 589857
> > Ok
> >
> > (C4) Reallocated Event Count 100 100 0 3
> > Ok
> >
> > (C5) Current Pending Sector 100 100 0 0
> > Ok
> >
> > (C6) Offline Uncorrectable 100 100 0 0
> > Ok
> >
> > (C7) Ultra DMA CRC Error Count 200 253 0 0
> > Ok
> >
> >
> > Power On Time : 2237
> > Health Status : Ok
> >
> >
> > I'll run a scan later because the smaller of the two drives is still
> > 75GB, and it'll take all night.
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> > "Gerry" wrote:
> >
> >> http://seagate.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/seagate.cfg/php/enduser/
> > std_adp.php?p_faqid=1326&p_created=1041975245&p_sid=Q*ffSNSi&p_accessibility=0&p_redirect=&p_lva=&p_sp=cF9zcmNoPTEmcF9zb3J0X2J5PSZwX2dyaWRzb3J0PSZwX3Jvd19jbnQ9MTY0LDE2NCZwX3Byb2RzPTAmcF9jYXRzPTAmcF9wdj0mcF9jdj0mcF9zZWFyY2hfdHlwZT1hbnN3ZXJzLnNlYXJjaF9ubCZwX3BhZ2U9MSZwX3NlYXJjaF90ZXh0PXdyb25nIG1vZGU*&p_li=&p_topview=1
> >>
> >> Try running HD Tune(freeware).
> >>
> >> Download and run it and see what it turns up.
> >> http://www.hdtune.com/
> >>
> >> Select the Info tabs and place the cursor on the drive under Drive
> >> letter and then double click the two page icon ( copy to Clipboard )
> >> and copy into a further message.
> >>
> >> Select the Health tab and then double click the two page icon ( copy
> >> to Clipboard ) and copy into a further message. Also do a full
> >> surface scan with HD Tune.
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Hope this helps.
> >>
> >> Gerry
> >> ~~~~
> >> FCA
> >> Stourport, England
> >> Enquire, plan and execute
> >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> >>
> >> Chuck wrote:
> >>> Hi, all. Here's my dilemma.
> >>> I was using my boy's PC the other day to rip a DVD, when I noticed
> >>> his drive was running at least 2x what mine does. SO I got to poking
> >>> around in my system info, and found many strange things. Both my
> >>> HDDs are running at a lower UDMA mode than they are rated for. In
> >>> fact, one is, I believe, running in PIO, and defeats all attempts
> >>> to reset it. Here is info, taken from EVEREST:
> >>>
> >>> Computer:
> >>> Operating System Microsoft
> >>> Windows XP Home Edition
> >>> OS Service Pack Service Pack
> >>> 2 DirectX
> >>> 4.09.00.0904 (DirectX 9.0c)
> >>> Computer Name PC1 (Our PC)
> >>> User Name Chuck
> >>>
> >>> Motherboard:
> >>> CPU Type Intel Pentium
> >>> 4, 2800 MHz (14 x 200)
> >>> Motherboard Name Dell
> >>> Dimension 4600i Motherboard Chipset
> >>> Intel Springdale-G
> >>> i865G
> >>> System Memory 1024 MB
> >>> (PC3200 DDR SDRAM)
> >>> BIOS Type Phoenix
> >>> (08/26/04)
> >>>
> >>> Storage:
> >>> IDE Controller Intel(R)
> >>> 82801EB Ultra ATA Storage Controllers
> >>> IDE Controller Intel(R)
> >>> 82801EB Ultra ATA Storage Controllers
> >>> Disk Drive ST380011A
> >>> (80 GB, 7200 RPM, Ultra-ATA/100)
> >>> Disk Drive
> >>> HDT722516DLAT80 (160 GB, 7200 RPM, Ultra-ATA/133)
> >>> Optical Drive LITE-ON DVDRW
> >>> SOHW-1693S
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> [ ST380011A (3JV9C0LL) ]
> >>>
> >>> ATA Device Properties:
> >>> Model ID ST380011A
> >>> Serial Number 3JV9C0LL
> >>> Revision 3.16
> >>> Parameters 155010
> >>> cylinders, 16 heads, 63 sectors per track, 512 bytes per sector
> >>> LBA Sectors 156250000
> >>> Buffer 2 MB
> >>> Multiple Sectors 16
> >>> ECC Bytes 4
> >>> Max. PIO Transfer Mode PIO 4
> >>> Max. UDMA Transfer Mode UDMA 5
> >>> (ATA-100) Active UDMA Transfer Mode
> >>> UDMA 2 (ATA-33) Unformatted Capacity
> >>> 76294 MB
> >>>
> >>> ATA Device Features:
> >>> SMART Supported
> >>> Security Mode Supported
> >>> Power Management Supported
> >>> Advanced Power Management Not Supported
> >>> Write Cache Supported
> >>> Host Protected Area Supported
> >>> Power-Up In Standby Not Supported
> >>> Automatic Acoustic Management Supported
> >>> 48-bit LBA Supported
> >>> Device Configuration Overlay Supported
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> [ HDT722516DLAT80 (VD0D1CTCDK8WLE) ]
> >>>
> >>> ATA Device Properties:
> >>> Model ID
> >>> HDT722516DLAT80 Serial Number
> >>> VD0D1CTCDK8WLE Revision
> >>> V43OA70A Parameters
> >>> 319120
> >>> cylinders, 16 heads, 63 sectors per track, 512 bytes per sector
> >>> LBA Sectors 321672960
> >>> Buffer 7674 KB (Dual
> >>> Ported, Read Ahead)
> >>> Multiple Sectors 16
> >>> ECC Bytes 51
> >>> Max. PIO Transfer Mode PIO 4
> >>> Max. UDMA Transfer Mode UDMA 6
> >>> (ATA-133) Active UDMA Transfer Mode
> >>> UDMA 0 Unformatted Capacity
> >>> 157067 MB
> >>>
> >>> ATA Device Features:
> >>> SMART Supported
> >>> Security Mode Supported
> >>> Power Management Supported
> >>> Advanced Power Management Supported
> >>> Write Cache Supported
> >>> Host Protected Area Supported
> >>> Power-Up In Standby Supported
> >>> Automatic Acoustic Management Supported
> >>> 48-bit LBA Supported
> >>> Device Configuration Overlay Supported
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> As you can see, one's slow, one seems to be in totally non-UDMA
> >>> mode. In Device Mgr, under Primary IDE Channel, Device 0 seems to
> >>> correspond to the ST3800, and is shown at UDMA 2. Device 1 is shown
> >>> as PIO [Transfer ModeMA if available], with no option to change
> >>> it. I am at a total loss. I've tried everything I can think of, from
> >>> uninstalling the HDD and rebooting in hopes it would redetect the
> >>> UDMA settings,. to registry editing. Nothing works. Help!!
> >>>
> >>> Chuck
>
>
>

 

[Paul]

Chuck wrote:
> See, there's where I'm confused. because it's still slow as molasses, still
> PIO.
>

Use 80 wire cables, for best transfer rate. The driver can apparently detect
the cable type (although according to the standard, not always). Then
consult the "Workaround" section here, to get Windows to redetect the
drive and return the transfer rate closer to the stated max.

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;817472

I think it is also possible, to artificially crank down the
transfer rate, using something like Hitachi Feature Tool. You
can cause a drive to reduce its maximum supported rate, but
then it is possible the readout in HDTune "Info" tab would have
reflected that fact. I have a ST380011A, and "Supported" lists
UDMA 5. My "Active" is also UDMA 5.

Paul

 

[LVTravel]

Right click My Computer, left click Manage then click on Device Manager.
Click on + mark next to IDE ATA....controllers (obviously you know how to
get there but I give instructions just in case). Right click on the IDE
Channel that you are having an issue with and Uninstall it. Reboot the
computer. The computer will find and reinstall the driver. See if that
fixed your issue with PIO.

Information from http://winhlp.com/node/10

For repeated DMA errors. Windows XP will turn off DMA mode for a device
after encountering certain errors during data transfer operations. If more
that six DMA transfer timeouts occur, Windows will turn off DMA and use only
PIO mode on that device.
In this case, the user cannot turn on DMA for this device. The only option
for the user who wants to enable DMA mode is to uninstall and reinstall the
device.

Windows XP downgrades the Ultra DMA transfer mode after receiving more than
six CRC errors. Whenever possible, the operating system will step down one
UDMA mode at a time (from UDMA mode 4 to UDMA mode 3, and so on).

Hope this information helps, let us know.






"Chuck" <Chuck@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:FE5CFB4C-EF83-4609-B1AD-E7C231610413@microsoft.com...
> Hi, all. Here's my dilemma.
> I was using my boy's PC the other day to rip a DVD, when I noticed his
> drive
> was running at least 2x what mine does. SO I got to poking around in my
> system info, and found many strange things. Both my HDDs are running at a
> lower UDMA mode than they are rated for. In fact, one is, I believe,
> running
> in PIO, and defeats all attempts to reset it. Here is info, taken from
> EVEREST:
>
> Computer:
> Operating System Microsoft Windows
> XP
> Home Edition
> OS Service Pack Service Pack 2
> DirectX 4.09.00.0904
> (DirectX 9.0c)
> Computer Name PC1 (Our PC)
> User Name Chuck
>
> Motherboard:
> CPU Type Intel Pentium 4,
> 2800 MHz (14 x 200)
> Motherboard Name Dell Dimension
> 4600i
> Motherboard Chipset Intel Springdale-G
> i865G
> System Memory 1024 MB (PC3200
> DDR
> SDRAM)
> BIOS Type Phoenix (08/26/04)
>
> Storage:
> IDE Controller Intel(R) 82801EB
> Ultra ATA Storage Controllers
> IDE Controller Intel(R) 82801EB
> Ultra ATA Storage Controllers
> Disk Drive ST380011A (80 GB,
> 7200 RPM, Ultra-ATA/100)
> Disk Drive HDT722516DLAT80
> (160 GB, 7200 RPM, Ultra-ATA/133)
> Optical Drive LITE-ON DVDRW
> SOHW-1693S
>
>
> [ ST380011A (3JV9C0LL) ]
>
> ATA Device Properties:
> Model ID ST380011A
> Serial Number 3JV9C0LL
> Revision 3.16
> Parameters 155010 cylinders,
> 16
> heads, 63 sectors per track, 512 bytes per sector
> LBA Sectors 156250000
> Buffer 2 MB
> Multiple Sectors 16
> ECC Bytes 4
> Max. PIO Transfer Mode PIO 4
> Max. UDMA Transfer Mode UDMA 5 (ATA-100)
> Active UDMA Transfer Mode UDMA 2 (ATA-33)
> Unformatted Capacity 76294 MB
>
> ATA Device Features:
> SMART Supported
> Security Mode Supported
> Power Management Supported
> Advanced Power Management Not Supported
> Write Cache Supported
> Host Protected Area Supported
> Power-Up In Standby Not Supported
> Automatic Acoustic Management Supported
> 48-bit LBA Supported
> Device Configuration Overlay Supported
>
>
> [ HDT722516DLAT80 (VD0D1CTCDK8WLE) ]
>
> ATA Device Properties:
> Model ID HDT722516DLAT80
> Serial Number VD0D1CTCDK8WLE
> Revision V43OA70A
> Parameters 319120 cylinders,
> 16
> heads, 63 sectors per track, 512 bytes per sector
> LBA Sectors 321672960
> Buffer 7674 KB (Dual
> Ported, Read Ahead)
> Multiple Sectors 16
> ECC Bytes 51
> Max. PIO Transfer Mode PIO 4
> Max. UDMA Transfer Mode UDMA 6 (ATA-133)
> Active UDMA Transfer Mode UDMA 0
> Unformatted Capacity 157067 MB
>
> ATA Device Features:
> SMART Supported
> Security Mode Supported
> Power Management Supported
> Advanced Power Management Supported
> Write Cache Supported
> Host Protected Area Supported
> Power-Up In Standby Supported
> Automatic Acoustic Management Supported
> 48-bit LBA Supported
> Device Configuration Overlay Supported
>
>
> As you can see, one's slow, one seems to be in totally non-UDMA mode. In
> Device Mgr, under Primary IDE Channel, Device 0 seems to correspond to the
> ST3800, and is shown at UDMA 2. Device 1 is shown as PIO [Transfer
> ModeMA
> if available], with no option to change it. I am at a total loss. I've
> tried
> everything I can think of, from uninstalling the HDD and rebooting in
> hopes
> it would redetect the UDMA settings,. to registry editing. Nothing works.
> Help!!
>
> Chuck
>
>

 

[Gerry]

Did you try anything in this link?

http://seagate.custhelp.com:80/cgi-...h0PXdyb25nIG1vZGU*&p_li=&p_topview=1Uninstall

Uninstall and reinstall the affected channel, "Primary IDE Channel" or
"Secondary IDE Channel". Reboot the system and Windows XP will reinstall
the driver for the channel.

Open Device Manager.
Double-click on IDE ATA/ATAPI controllers
Right-click on Primary IDE Channel or Secondary IDE Channel and select
uninstall.
Click on "Ok".
Restart the system.
Upon restart, Windows will reinstall the Primary or Secondary IDE
channel.


--



Hope this helps.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


Chuck wrote:
> See, there's where I'm confused. because it's still slow as molasses,
> still PIO.
>
> "Gerry" wrote:
>
>> Chuck
>>
>> Those reports look fine. Keep up the good work <G>.
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>>
>>
>> Hope this helps.
>>
>> Gerry
>> ~~~~
>> FCA
>> Stourport, England
>> Enquire, plan and execute
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>> Chuck wrote:
>>> OK--from Health tab:
>>>
>>> HD Tune: ST380011A Health
>>>
>>> ID Current Worst ThresholdData
>>> Status
>>> (01) Raw Read Error Rate 64 58 6
>>> 235338212 Ok
>>>
>>> (03) Spin Up Time 98 98 0 0
>>> Ok
>>>
>>> (04) Start/Stop Count 100 100 20 276
>>> Ok
>>>
>>> (05) Reallocated Sector Count 100 100 36 0
>>> Ok
>>>
>>> (07) Seek Error Rate 86 60 30
>>> 454928957 Ok
>>>
>>> (09) Power On Hours Count 89 89 0 10140
>>> Ok
>>>
>>> (0A) Spin Retry Count 100 100 97 0
>>> Ok
>>>
>>> (0C) Power Cycle Count 99 99 20 1898
>>> Ok
>>>
>>> (C2) Temperature 32 40 0 32
>>> Ok
>>>
>>> (C3) Hardware ECC Recovered 64 57 0
>>> 235338212 Ok
>>>
>>> (C5) Current Pending Sector 100 100 0 0
>>> Ok
>>>
>>> (C6) Offline Uncorrectable 100 100 0 0
>>> Ok
>>>
>>> (C7) Ultra DMA CRC Error Count 200 200 0 0
>>> Ok
>>>
>>> (C8) Write Error Rate 100 253 0 0
>>> Ok
>>>
>>> (CA) TA Counter Increased 100 253 0 0
>>> Ok
>>>
>>>
>>> Power On Time : 10140
>>> Health Status : Ok
>>>
>>> AND...
>>>
>>> HD Tune: HDT722516DLAT80 Health
>>>
>>> ID Current Worst ThresholdData
>>> Status
>>>
>>> (01) Raw Read Error Rate 100 100 16 0
>>> Ok
>>>
>>> (02) Throughput Performance 100 100 50 0
>>> Ok
>>>
>>> (03) Spin Up Time 110 110 24 20971836
>>> Ok
>>>
>>> (04) Start/Stop Count 100 100 0 410
>>> Ok
>>>
>>> (05) Reallocated Sector Count 100 100 5 2
>>> Ok
>>>
>>> (07) Seek Error Rate 100 100 67 0
>>> Ok
>>>
>>> (08) Seek Time Performance 100 100 20 0
>>> Ok
>>>
>>> (09) Power On Hours Count 100 100 0 2237
>>> Ok
>>>
>>> (0A) Spin Retry Count 100 100 60 0
>>> Ok
>>>
>>> (0C) Power Cycle Count 100 100 0 360
>>> Ok
>>>
>>> (C0) Power Off Retract Count 100 100 50 454
>>> Ok
>>>
>>> (C1) Load Cycle Count 100 100 50 454
>>> Ok
>>>
>>> (C2) Temperature 166 166 0 589857
>>> Ok
>>>
>>> (C4) Reallocated Event Count 100 100 0 3
>>> Ok
>>>
>>> (C5) Current Pending Sector 100 100 0 0
>>> Ok
>>>
>>> (C6) Offline Uncorrectable 100 100 0 0
>>> Ok
>>>
>>> (C7) Ultra DMA CRC Error Count 200 253 0 0
>>> Ok
>>>
>>>
>>> Power On Time : 2237
>>> Health Status : Ok
>>>
>>>
>>> I'll run a scan later because the smaller of the two drives is still
>>> 75GB, and it'll take all night.
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>>
>>> "Gerry" wrote:
>>>
>>>> http://seagate.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/seagate.cfg/php/enduser/
>>> std_adp.php?p_faqid=1326&p_created=1041975245&p_sid=Q*ffSNSi&p_accessibility=0&p_redirect=&p_lva=&p_sp=cF9zcmNoPTEmcF9zb3J0X2J5PSZwX2dyaWRzb3J0PSZwX3Jvd19jbnQ9MTY0LDE2NCZwX3Byb2RzPTAmcF9jYXRzPTAmcF9wdj0mcF9jdj0mcF9zZWFyY2hfdHlwZT1hbnN3ZXJzLnNlYXJjaF9ubCZwX3BhZ2U9MSZwX3NlYXJjaF90ZXh0PXdyb25nIG1vZGU*&p_li=&p_topview=1
>>>>
>>>> Try running HD Tune(freeware).
>>>>
>>>> Download and run it and see what it turns up.
>>>> http://www.hdtune.com/
>>>>
>>>> Select the Info tabs and place the cursor on the drive under Drive
>>>> letter and then double click the two page icon ( copy to
>>>> Clipboard ) and copy into a further message.
>>>>
>>>> Select the Health tab and then double click the two page icon (
>>>> copy to Clipboard ) and copy into a further message. Also do a full
>>>> surface scan with HD Tune.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hope this helps.
>>>>
>>>> Gerry
>>>> ~~~~
>>>> FCA
>>>> Stourport, England
>>>> Enquire, plan and execute
>>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>>>
>>>> Chuck wrote:
>>>>> Hi, all. Here's my dilemma.
>>>>> I was using my boy's PC the other day to rip a DVD, when I noticed
>>>>> his drive was running at least 2x what mine does. SO I got to
>>>>> poking around in my system info, and found many strange things.
>>>>> Both my HDDs are running at a lower UDMA mode than they are rated
>>>>> for. In fact, one is, I believe, running in PIO, and defeats all
>>>>> attempts to reset it. Here is info, taken from EVEREST:
>>>>>
>>>>> Computer:
>>>>> Operating System Microsoft
>>>>> Windows XP Home Edition
>>>>> OS Service Pack Service
>>>>> Pack 2 DirectX
>>>>> 4.09.00.0904 (DirectX 9.0c)
>>>>> Computer Name PC1 (Our
>>>>> PC) User Name Chuck
>>>>>
>>>>> Motherboard:
>>>>> CPU Type Intel
>>>>> Pentium 4, 2800 MHz (14 x 200)
>>>>> Motherboard Name Dell
>>>>> Dimension 4600i Motherboard Chipset
>>>>> Intel Springdale-G
>>>>> i865G
>>>>> System Memory 1024 MB
>>>>> (PC3200 DDR SDRAM)
>>>>> BIOS Type Phoenix
>>>>> (08/26/04)
>>>>>
>>>>> Storage:
>>>>> IDE Controller Intel(R)
>>>>> 82801EB Ultra ATA Storage Controllers
>>>>> IDE Controller Intel(R)
>>>>> 82801EB Ultra ATA Storage Controllers
>>>>> Disk Drive ST380011A
>>>>> (80 GB, 7200 RPM, Ultra-ATA/100)
>>>>> Disk Drive
>>>>> HDT722516DLAT80 (160 GB, 7200 RPM, Ultra-ATA/133)
>>>>> Optical Drive LITE-ON
>>>>> DVDRW SOHW-1693S
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> [ ST380011A (3JV9C0LL) ]
>>>>>
>>>>> ATA Device Properties:
>>>>> Model ID ST380011A
>>>>> Serial Number 3JV9C0LL
>>>>> Revision 3.16
>>>>> Parameters 155010
>>>>> cylinders, 16 heads, 63 sectors per track, 512 bytes per sector
>>>>> LBA Sectors 156250000
>>>>> Buffer 2 MB
>>>>> Multiple Sectors 16
>>>>> ECC Bytes 4
>>>>> Max. PIO Transfer Mode PIO 4
>>>>> Max. UDMA Transfer Mode UDMA 5
>>>>> (ATA-100) Active UDMA Transfer Mode
>>>>> UDMA 2 (ATA-33) Unformatted Capacity
>>>>> 76294 MB
>>>>>
>>>>> ATA Device Features:
>>>>> SMART Supported
>>>>> Security Mode Supported
>>>>> Power Management Supported
>>>>> Advanced Power Management Not
>>>>> Supported Write Cache
>>>>> Supported Host Protected Area
>>>>> Supported Power-Up In Standby
>>>>> Not Supported Automatic Acoustic Management
>>>>> Supported 48-bit LBA
>>>>> Supported Device Configuration Overlay
>>>>> Supported
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> [ HDT722516DLAT80 (VD0D1CTCDK8WLE) ]
>>>>>
>>>>> ATA Device Properties:
>>>>> Model ID
>>>>> HDT722516DLAT80 Serial Number
>>>>> VD0D1CTCDK8WLE Revision
>>>>> V43OA70A Parameters
>>>>> 319120
>>>>> cylinders, 16 heads, 63 sectors per track, 512 bytes per sector
>>>>> LBA Sectors 321672960
>>>>> Buffer 7674 KB
>>>>> (Dual Ported, Read Ahead)
>>>>> Multiple Sectors 16
>>>>> ECC Bytes 51
>>>>> Max. PIO Transfer Mode PIO 4
>>>>> Max. UDMA Transfer Mode UDMA 6
>>>>> (ATA-133) Active UDMA Transfer Mode
>>>>> UDMA 0 Unformatted Capacity
>>>>> 157067 MB
>>>>>
>>>>> ATA Device Features:
>>>>> SMART Supported
>>>>> Security Mode Supported
>>>>> Power Management Supported
>>>>> Advanced Power Management Supported
>>>>> Write Cache Supported
>>>>> Host Protected Area Supported
>>>>> Power-Up In Standby Supported
>>>>> Automatic Acoustic Management Supported
>>>>> 48-bit LBA Supported
>>>>> Device Configuration Overlay Supported
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> As you can see, one's slow, one seems to be in totally non-UDMA
>>>>> mode. In Device Mgr, under Primary IDE Channel, Device 0 seems to
>>>>> correspond to the ST3800, and is shown at UDMA 2. Device 1 is
>>>>> shown as PIO [Transfer ModeMA if available], with no option to
>>>>> change it. I am at a total loss. I've tried everything I can
>>>>> think of, from uninstalling the HDD and rebooting in hopes it
>>>>> would redetect the UDMA settings,. to registry editing. Nothing
>>>>> works. Help!!
>>>>>
>>>>> Chuck

 

[Chuck]

Can't open that link for whatever reason, but if it'sjust the procedure
outlined below,
then yes, I've tried that at least a half-dozen times. Doesn't do a &^%$#*
thing.
Which really annoys, because everybody else who's tried it says it fixed 'em
right off.
I've unistalled the IDE channel, the drive itself, even edited the registry
attempting to fix this.
Is there ANYTHING else that might cause it?

"Gerry" wrote:

> Did you try anything in this link?
>
> http://seagate.custhelp.com:80/cgi-...h0PXdyb25nIG1vZGU*&p_li=&p_topview=1Uninstall
>
> Uninstall and reinstall the affected channel, "Primary IDE Channel" or
> "Secondary IDE Channel". Reboot the system and Windows XP will reinstall
> the driver for the channel.
>
> Open Device Manager.
> Double-click on IDE ATA/ATAPI controllers
> Right-click on Primary IDE Channel or Secondary IDE Channel and select
> uninstall.
> Click on "Ok".
> Restart the system.
> Upon restart, Windows will reinstall the Primary or Secondary IDE
> channel.
>
>
> --
>
>
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> Gerry
> ~~~~
> FCA
> Stourport, England
> Enquire, plan and execute
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
>
> Chuck wrote:
> > See, there's where I'm confused. because it's still slow as molasses,
> > still PIO.
> >
> > "Gerry" wrote:
> >
> >> Chuck
> >>
> >> Those reports look fine. Keep up the good work <G>.
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Hope this helps.
> >>
> >> Gerry
> >> ~~~~
> >> FCA
> >> Stourport, England
> >> Enquire, plan and execute
> >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> >> Chuck wrote:
> >>> OK--from Health tab:
> >>>
> >>> HD Tune: ST380011A Health
> >>>
> >>> ID Current Worst ThresholdData
> >>> Status
> >>> (01) Raw Read Error Rate 64 58 6
> >>> 235338212 Ok
> >>>
> >>> (03) Spin Up Time 98 98 0 0
> >>> Ok
> >>>
> >>> (04) Start/Stop Count 100 100 20 276
> >>> Ok
> >>>
> >>> (05) Reallocated Sector Count 100 100 36 0
> >>> Ok
> >>>
> >>> (07) Seek Error Rate 86 60 30
> >>> 454928957 Ok
> >>>
> >>> (09) Power On Hours Count 89 89 0 10140
> >>> Ok
> >>>
> >>> (0A) Spin Retry Count 100 100 97 0
> >>> Ok
> >>>
> >>> (0C) Power Cycle Count 99 99 20 1898
> >>> Ok
> >>>
> >>> (C2) Temperature 32 40 0 32
> >>> Ok
> >>>
> >>> (C3) Hardware ECC Recovered 64 57 0
> >>> 235338212 Ok
> >>>
> >>> (C5) Current Pending Sector 100 100 0 0
> >>> Ok
> >>>
> >>> (C6) Offline Uncorrectable 100 100 0 0
> >>> Ok
> >>>
> >>> (C7) Ultra DMA CRC Error Count 200 200 0 0
> >>> Ok
> >>>
> >>> (C8) Write Error Rate 100 253 0 0
> >>> Ok
> >>>
> >>> (CA) TA Counter Increased 100 253 0 0
> >>> Ok
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Power On Time : 10140
> >>> Health Status : Ok
> >>>
> >>> AND...
> >>>
> >>> HD Tune: HDT722516DLAT80 Health
> >>>
> >>> ID Current Worst ThresholdData
> >>> Status
> >>>
> >>> (01) Raw Read Error Rate 100 100 16 0
> >>> Ok
> >>>
> >>> (02) Throughput Performance 100 100 50 0
> >>> Ok
> >>>
> >>> (03) Spin Up Time 110 110 24 20971836
> >>> Ok
> >>>
> >>> (04) Start/Stop Count 100 100 0 410
> >>> Ok
> >>>
> >>> (05) Reallocated Sector Count 100 100 5 2
> >>> Ok
> >>>
> >>> (07) Seek Error Rate 100 100 67 0
> >>> Ok
> >>>
> >>> (08) Seek Time Performance 100 100 20 0
> >>> Ok
> >>>
> >>> (09) Power On Hours Count 100 100 0 2237
> >>> Ok
> >>>
> >>> (0A) Spin Retry Count 100 100 60 0
> >>> Ok
> >>>
> >>> (0C) Power Cycle Count 100 100 0 360
> >>> Ok
> >>>
> >>> (C0) Power Off Retract Count 100 100 50 454
> >>> Ok
> >>>
> >>> (C1) Load Cycle Count 100 100 50 454
> >>> Ok
> >>>
> >>> (C2) Temperature 166 166 0 589857
> >>> Ok
> >>>
> >>> (C4) Reallocated Event Count 100 100 0 3
> >>> Ok
> >>>
> >>> (C5) Current Pending Sector 100 100 0 0
> >>> Ok
> >>>
> >>> (C6) Offline Uncorrectable 100 100 0 0
> >>> Ok
> >>>
> >>> (C7) Ultra DMA CRC Error Count 200 253 0 0
> >>> Ok
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Power On Time : 2237
> >>> Health Status : Ok
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> I'll run a scan later because the smaller of the two drives is still
> >>> 75GB, and it'll take all night.
> >>>
> >>> Thanks!
> >>>
> >>> "Gerry" wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> http://seagate.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/seagate.cfg/php/enduser/
> >>> std_adp.php?p_faqid=1326&p_created=1041975245&p_sid=Q*ffSNSi&p_accessibility=0&p_redirect=&p_lva=&p_sp=cF9zcmNoPTEmcF9zb3J0X2J5PSZwX2dyaWRzb3J0PSZwX3Jvd19jbnQ9MTY0LDE2NCZwX3Byb2RzPTAmcF9jYXRzPTAmcF9wdj0mcF9jdj0mcF9zZWFyY2hfdHlwZT1hbnN3ZXJzLnNlYXJjaF9ubCZwX3BhZ2U9MSZwX3NlYXJjaF90ZXh0PXdyb25nIG1vZGU*&p_li=&p_topview=1
> >>>>
> >>>> Try running HD Tune(freeware).
> >>>>
> >>>> Download and run it and see what it turns up.
> >>>> http://www.hdtune.com/
> >>>>
> >>>> Select the Info tabs and place the cursor on the drive under Drive
> >>>> letter and then double click the two page icon ( copy to
> >>>> Clipboard ) and copy into a further message.
> >>>>
> >>>> Select the Health tab and then double click the two page icon (
> >>>> copy to Clipboard ) and copy into a further message. Also do a full
> >>>> surface scan with HD Tune.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Hope this helps.
> >>>>
> >>>> Gerry
> >>>> ~~~~
> >>>> FCA
> >>>> Stourport, England
> >>>> Enquire, plan and execute
> >>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> >>>>
> >>>> Chuck wrote:
> >>>>> Hi, all. Here's my dilemma.
> >>>>> I was using my boy's PC the other day to rip a DVD, when I noticed
> >>>>> his drive was running at least 2x what mine does. SO I got to
> >>>>> poking around in my system info, and found many strange things.
> >>>>> Both my HDDs are running at a lower UDMA mode than they are rated
> >>>>> for. In fact, one is, I believe, running in PIO, and defeats all
> >>>>> attempts to reset it. Here is info, taken from EVEREST:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Computer:
> >>>>> Operating System Microsoft
> >>>>> Windows XP Home Edition
> >>>>> OS Service Pack Service
> >>>>> Pack 2 DirectX
> >>>>> 4.09.00.0904 (DirectX 9.0c)
> >>>>> Computer Name PC1 (Our
> >>>>> PC) User Name Chuck
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Motherboard:
> >>>>> CPU Type Intel
> >>>>> Pentium 4, 2800 MHz (14 x 200)
> >>>>> Motherboard Name Dell
> >>>>> Dimension 4600i Motherboard Chipset
> >>>>> Intel Springdale-G
> >>>>> i865G
> >>>>> System Memory 1024 MB
> >>>>> (PC3200 DDR SDRAM)
> >>>>> BIOS Type Phoenix
> >>>>> (08/26/04)
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Storage:
> >>>>> IDE Controller Intel(R)
> >>>>> 82801EB Ultra ATA Storage Controllers
> >>>>> IDE Controller Intel(R)
> >>>>> 82801EB Ultra ATA Storage Controllers
> >>>>> Disk Drive ST380011A
> >>>>> (80 GB, 7200 RPM, Ultra-ATA/100)
> >>>>> Disk Drive
> >>>>> HDT722516DLAT80 (160 GB, 7200 RPM, Ultra-ATA/133)
> >>>>> Optical Drive LITE-ON
> >>>>> DVDRW SOHW-1693S
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> [ ST380011A (3JV9C0LL) ]
> >>>>>
> >>>>> ATA Device Properties:
> >>>>> Model ID ST380011A
> >>>>> Serial Number 3JV9C0LL
> >>>>> Revision 3.16
> >>>>> Parameters 155010
> >>>>> cylinders, 16 heads, 63 sectors per track, 512 bytes per sector
> >>>>> LBA Sectors 156250000
> >>>>> Buffer 2 MB
> >>>>> Multiple Sectors 16
> >>>>> ECC Bytes 4
> >>>>> Max. PIO Transfer Mode PIO 4
> >>>>> Max. UDMA Transfer Mode UDMA 5
> >>>>> (ATA-100) Active UDMA Transfer Mode
> >>>>> UDMA 2 (ATA-33) Unformatted Capacity
> >>>>> 76294 MB
> >>>>>
> >>>>> ATA Device Features:
> >>>>> SMART Supported
> >>>>> Security Mode Supported
> >>>>> Power Management Supported
> >>>>> Advanced Power Management Not
> >>>>> Supported Write Cache
> >>>>> Supported Host Protected Area
> >>>>> Supported Power-Up In Standby
> >>>>> Not Supported Automatic Acoustic Management
> >>>>> Supported 48-bit LBA
> >>>>> Supported Device Configuration Overlay
> >>>>> Supported
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> [ HDT722516DLAT80 (VD0D1CTCDK8WLE) ]
> >>>>>
> >>>>> ATA Device Properties:
> >>>>> Model ID
> >>>>> HDT722516DLAT80 Serial Number
> >>>>> VD0D1CTCDK8WLE Revision
> >>>>> V43OA70A Parameters
> >>>>> 319120
> >>>>> cylinders, 16 heads, 63 sectors per track, 512 bytes per sector
> >>>>> LBA Sectors 321672960
> >>>>> Buffer 7674 KB
> >>>>> (Dual Ported, Read Ahead)
> >>>>> Multiple Sectors 16
> >>>>> ECC Bytes 51

 

[Chuck]

HI, LV (?)
Thanks for the help, but as I just told Gerry, I've tried that at least 1/2
dozen times to no effect. I have also tried the registry edit described. But
something occurs to me. I'll have to look at home (at work now), but I seem
to recall that in that entry, the list of drives (00000, 00001, etc, or
however it goes) didn't have 00001, which would be the drive in question.
Well, the one in PIO, anyway. Even the faster drive is still running at only
UDMA 2.
Argh!

"LVTravel" wrote:

> Right click My Computer, left click Manage then click on Device Manager.
> Click on + mark next to IDE ATA....controllers (obviously you know how to
> get there but I give instructions just in case). Right click on the IDE
> Channel that you are having an issue with and Uninstall it. Reboot the
> computer. The computer will find and reinstall the driver. See if that
> fixed your issue with PIO.
>
> Information from http://winhlp.com/node/10
>
> For repeated DMA errors. Windows XP will turn off DMA mode for a device
> after encountering certain errors during data transfer operations. If more
> that six DMA transfer timeouts occur, Windows will turn off DMA and use only
> PIO mode on that device.
> In this case, the user cannot turn on DMA for this device. The only option
> for the user who wants to enable DMA mode is to uninstall and reinstall the
> device.
>
> Windows XP downgrades the Ultra DMA transfer mode after receiving more than
> six CRC errors. Whenever possible, the operating system will step down one
> UDMA mode at a time (from UDMA mode 4 to UDMA mode 3, and so on).
>
> Hope this information helps, let us know.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> "Chuck" <Chuck@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:FE5CFB4C-EF83-4609-B1AD-E7C231610413@microsoft.com...
> > Hi, all. Here's my dilemma.
> > I was using my boy's PC the other day to rip a DVD, when I noticed his
> > drive
> > was running at least 2x what mine does. SO I got to poking around in my
> > system info, and found many strange things. Both my HDDs are running at a
> > lower UDMA mode than they are rated for. In fact, one is, I believe,
> > running
> > in PIO, and defeats all attempts to reset it. Here is info, taken from
> > EVEREST:
> >
> > Computer:
> > Operating System Microsoft Windows
> > XP
> > Home Edition
> > OS Service Pack Service Pack 2
> > DirectX 4.09.00.0904
> > (DirectX 9.0c)
> > Computer Name PC1 (Our PC)
> > User Name Chuck
> >
> > Motherboard:
> > CPU Type Intel Pentium 4,
> > 2800 MHz (14 x 200)
> > Motherboard Name Dell Dimension
> > 4600i
> > Motherboard Chipset Intel Springdale-G
> > i865G
> > System Memory 1024 MB (PC3200
> > DDR
> > SDRAM)
> > BIOS Type Phoenix (08/26/04)
> >
> > Storage:
> > IDE Controller Intel(R) 82801EB
> > Ultra ATA Storage Controllers
> > IDE Controller Intel(R) 82801EB
> > Ultra ATA Storage Controllers
> > Disk Drive ST380011A (80 GB,
> > 7200 RPM, Ultra-ATA/100)
> > Disk Drive HDT722516DLAT80
> > (160 GB, 7200 RPM, Ultra-ATA/133)
> > Optical Drive LITE-ON DVDRW
> > SOHW-1693S
> >
> >
> > [ ST380011A (3JV9C0LL) ]
> >
> > ATA Device Properties:
> > Model ID ST380011A
> > Serial Number 3JV9C0LL
> > Revision 3.16
> > Parameters 155010 cylinders,
> > 16
> > heads, 63 sectors per track, 512 bytes per sector
> > LBA Sectors 156250000
> > Buffer 2 MB
> > Multiple Sectors 16
> > ECC Bytes 4
> > Max. PIO Transfer Mode PIO 4
> > Max. UDMA Transfer Mode UDMA 5 (ATA-100)
> > Active UDMA Transfer Mode UDMA 2 (ATA-33)
> > Unformatted Capacity 76294 MB
> >
> > ATA Device Features:
> > SMART Supported
> > Security Mode Supported
> > Power Management Supported
> > Advanced Power Management Not Supported
> > Write Cache Supported
> > Host Protected Area Supported
> > Power-Up In Standby Not Supported
> > Automatic Acoustic Management Supported
> > 48-bit LBA Supported
> > Device Configuration Overlay Supported
> >
> >
> > [ HDT722516DLAT80 (VD0D1CTCDK8WLE) ]
> >
> > ATA Device Properties:
> > Model ID HDT722516DLAT80
> > Serial Number VD0D1CTCDK8WLE
> > Revision V43OA70A
> > Parameters 319120 cylinders,
> > 16
> > heads, 63 sectors per track, 512 bytes per sector
> > LBA Sectors 321672960
> > Buffer 7674 KB (Dual
> > Ported, Read Ahead)
> > Multiple Sectors 16
> > ECC Bytes 51
> > Max. PIO Transfer Mode PIO 4
> > Max. UDMA Transfer Mode UDMA 6 (ATA-133)
> > Active UDMA Transfer Mode UDMA 0
> > Unformatted Capacity 157067 MB
> >
> > ATA Device Features:
> > SMART Supported
> > Security Mode Supported
> > Power Management Supported
> > Advanced Power Management Supported
> > Write Cache Supported
> > Host Protected Area Supported
> > Power-Up In Standby Supported
> > Automatic Acoustic Management Supported
> > 48-bit LBA Supported
> > Device Configuration Overlay Supported
> >
> >
> > As you can see, one's slow, one seems to be in totally non-UDMA mode. In
> > Device Mgr, under Primary IDE Channel, Device 0 seems to correspond to the
> > ST3800, and is shown at UDMA 2. Device 1 is shown as PIO [Transfer
> > ModeMA
> > if available], with no option to change it. I am at a total loss. I've
> > tried
> > everything I can think of, from uninstalling the HDD and rebooting in
> > hopes
> > it would redetect the UDMA settings,. to registry editing. Nothing works.
> > Help!!
> >
> > Chuck
> >
> >
>
>
>

 

[Gerry]

Chuck


Did you complete the surface scans with HD Tune?

Here's a shortened version of the link:
http://snipurl.com/1v1xe

Another also from the Seagate site:
http://snipurl.com/1v1xj

Have you looked inside your computer case?
http://support.dell.com/support/edocs/systems/dim4600/en/4600i/sm/parts.htm#1138667

Are the fans all working? Have you cleaned inside with an Air Duster?
Are the cables for the hard drive and CD drive correctly connected?

--



Hope this helps.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Chuck wrote:
> Can't open that link for whatever reason, but if it'sjust the
> procedure outlined below,
> then yes, I've tried that at least a half-dozen times. Doesn't do a
> &^%$#* thing.
> Which really annoys, because everybody else who's tried it says it
> fixed 'em right off.
> I've unistalled the IDE channel, the drive itself, even edited the
> registry attempting to fix this.
> Is there ANYTHING else that might cause it?
>
> "Gerry" wrote:
>
>> Did you try anything in this link?
>>
>> http://seagate.custhelp.com:80/cgi-...h0PXdyb25nIG1vZGU*&p_li=&p_topview=1Uninstall
>>
>> Uninstall and reinstall the affected channel, "Primary IDE Channel"
>> or "Secondary IDE Channel". Reboot the system and Windows XP will
>> reinstall the driver for the channel.
>>
>> Open Device Manager.
>> Double-click on IDE ATA/ATAPI controllers
>> Right-click on Primary IDE Channel or Secondary IDE Channel and
>> select uninstall.
>> Click on "Ok".
>> Restart the system.
>> Upon restart, Windows will reinstall the Primary or Secondary IDE
>> channel.
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>>
>>
>> Hope this helps.
>>
>> Gerry
>> ~~~~
>> FCA
>> Stourport, England
>> Enquire, plan and execute
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>
>>
>> Chuck wrote:
>>> See, there's where I'm confused. because it's still slow as
>>> molasses, still PIO.
>>>
>>> "Gerry" wrote:
>>>
>>>> Chuck
>>>>
>>>> Those reports look fine. Keep up the good work <G>.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hope this helps.
>>>>
>>>> Gerry
>>>> ~~~~
>>>> FCA
>>>> Stourport, England
>>>> Enquire, plan and execute
>>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>>> Chuck wrote:
>>>>> OK--from Health tab:
>>>>>
>>>>> HD Tune: ST380011A Health
>>>>>
>>>>> ID Current Worst ThresholdData
>>>>> Status
>>>>> (01) Raw Read Error Rate 64 58 6
>>>>> 235338212 Ok
>>>>>
>>>>> (03) Spin Up Time 98 98 0 0
>>>>> Ok
>>>>>
>>>>> (04) Start/Stop Count 100 100 20 276
>>>>> Ok
>>>>>
>>>>> (05) Reallocated Sector Count 100 100 36 0
>>>>> Ok
>>>>>
>>>>> (07) Seek Error Rate 86 60 30
>>>>> 454928957 Ok
>>>>>
>>>>> (09) Power On Hours Count 89 89 0 10140
>>>>> Ok
>>>>>
>>>>> (0A) Spin Retry Count 100 100 97 0
>>>>> Ok
>>>>>
>>>>> (0C) Power Cycle Count 99 99 20 1898
>>>>> Ok
>>>>>
>>>>> (C2) Temperature 32 40 0 32
>>>>> Ok
>>>>>
>>>>> (C3) Hardware ECC Recovered 64 57 0
>>>>> 235338212 Ok
>>>>>
>>>>> (C5) Current Pending Sector 100 100 0 0
>>>>> Ok
>>>>>
>>>>> (C6) Offline Uncorrectable 100 100 0 0
>>>>> Ok
>>>>>
>>>>> (C7) Ultra DMA CRC Error Count 200 200 0 0
>>>>> Ok
>>>>>
>>>>> (C8) Write Error Rate 100 253 0 0
>>>>> Ok
>>>>>
>>>>> (CA) TA Counter Increased 100 253 0 0
>>>>> Ok
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Power On Time : 10140
>>>>> Health Status : Ok
>>>>>
>>>>> AND...
>>>>>
>>>>> HD Tune: HDT722516DLAT80 Health
>>>>>
>>>>> ID Current Worst ThresholdData
>>>>> Status
>>>>>
>>>>> (01) Raw Read Error Rate 100 100 16 0
>>>>> Ok
>>>>>
>>>>> (02) Throughput Performance 100 100 50 0
>>>>> Ok
>>>>>
>>>>> (03) Spin Up Time 110 110 24
>>>>> 20971836 Ok
>>>>>
>>>>> (04) Start/Stop Count 100 100 0 410
>>>>> Ok
>>>>>
>>>>> (05) Reallocated Sector Count 100 100 5 2
>>>>> Ok
>>>>>
>>>>> (07) Seek Error Rate 100 100 67 0
>>>>> Ok
>>>>>
>>>>> (08) Seek Time Performance 100 100 20 0
>>>>> Ok
>>>>>
>>>>> (09) Power On Hours Count 100 100 0 2237
>>>>> Ok
>>>>>
>>>>> (0A) Spin Retry Count 100 100 60 0
>>>>> Ok
>>>>>
>>>>> (0C) Power Cycle Count 100 100 0 360
>>>>> Ok
>>>>>
>>>>> (C0) Power Off Retract Count 100 100 50 454
>>>>> Ok
>>>>>
>>>>> (C1) Load Cycle Count 100 100 50 454
>>>>> Ok
>>>>>
>>>>> (C2) Temperature 166 166 0 589857
>>>>> Ok
>>>>>
>>>>> (C4) Reallocated Event Count 100 100 0 3
>>>>> Ok
>>>>>
>>>>> (C5) Current Pending Sector 100 100 0 0
>>>>> Ok
>>>>>
>>>>> (C6) Offline Uncorrectable 100 100 0 0
>>>>> Ok
>>>>>
>>>>> (C7) Ultra DMA CRC Error Count 200 253 0 0
>>>>> Ok
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Power On Time : 2237
>>>>> Health Status : Ok
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I'll run a scan later because the smaller of the two drives is
>>>>> still 75GB, and it'll take all night.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>
>>>>> "Gerry" wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> http://seagate.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/seagate.cfg/php/enduser/
>>>>> std_adp.php?p_faqid=1326&p_created=1041975245&p_sid=Q*ffSNSi&p_accessibility=0&p_redirect=&p_lva=&p_sp=cF9zcmNoPTEmcF9zb3J0X2J5PSZwX2dyaWRzb3J0PSZwX3Jvd19jbnQ9MTY0LDE2NCZwX3Byb2RzPTAmcF9jYXRzPTAmcF9wdj0mcF9jdj0mcF9zZWFyY2hfdHlwZT1hbnN3ZXJzLnNlYXJjaF9ubCZwX3BhZ2U9MSZwX3NlYXJjaF90ZXh0PXdyb25nIG1vZGU*&p_li=&p_topview=1
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Try running HD Tune(freeware).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Download and run it and see what it turns up.
>>>>>> http://www.hdtune.com/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Select the Info tabs and place the cursor on the drive under
>>>>>> Drive letter and then double click the two page icon ( copy to
>>>>>> Clipboard ) and copy into a further message.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Select the Health tab and then double click the two page icon (
>>>>>> copy to Clipboard ) and copy into a further message. Also do a
>>>>>> full surface scan with HD Tune.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hope this helps.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Gerry
>>>>>> ~~~~
>>>>>> FCA
>>>>>> Stourport, England
>>>>>> Enquire, plan and execute
>>>>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Chuck wrote:
>>>>>>> Hi, all. Here's my dilemma.
>>>>>>> I was using my boy's PC the other day to rip a DVD, when I
>>>>>>> noticed his drive was running at least 2x what mine does. SO I
>>>>>>> got to poking around in my system info, and found many strange
>>>>>>> things. Both my HDDs are running at a lower UDMA mode than they
>>>>>>> are rated for. In fact, one is, I believe, running in PIO, and
>>>>>>> defeats all attempts to reset it. Here is info, taken from
>>>>>>> EVEREST:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Computer:
>>>>>>> Operating System Microsoft
>>>>>>> Windows XP Home Edition
>>>>>>> OS Service Pack Service
>>>>>>> Pack 2 DirectX
>>>>>>> 4.09.00.0904 (DirectX 9.0c)
>>>>>>> Computer Name PC1 (Our
>>>>>>> PC) User Name Chuck
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Motherboard:
>>>>>>> CPU Type Intel
>>>>>>> Pentium 4, 2800 MHz (14 x 200)
>>>>>>> Motherboard Name Dell
>>>>>>> Dimension 4600i Motherboard Chipset
>>>>>>> Intel Springdale-G
>>>>>>> i865G
>>>>>>> System Memory 1024 MB
>>>>>>> (PC3200 DDR SDRAM)
>>>>>>> BIOS Type Phoenix
>>>>>>> (08/26/04)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Storage:
>>>>>>> IDE Controller Intel(R)
>>>>>>> 82801EB Ultra ATA Storage Controllers
>>>>>>> IDE Controller Intel(R)
>>>>>>> 82801EB Ultra ATA Storage Controllers
>>>>>>> Disk Drive ST380011A
>>>>>>> (80 GB, 7200 RPM, Ultra-ATA/100)
>>>>>>> Disk Drive
>>>>>>> HDT722516DLAT80 (160 GB, 7200 RPM, Ultra-ATA/133)
>>>>>>> Optical Drive LITE-ON
>>>>>>> DVDRW SOHW-1693S
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> [ ST380011A (3JV9C0LL) ]
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ATA Device Properties:
>>>>>>> Model ID ST380011A
>>>>>>> Serial Number 3JV9C0LL
>>>>>>> Revision 3.16
>>>>>>> Parameters 155010
>>>>>>> cylinders, 16 heads, 63 sectors per track, 512 bytes per sector
>>>>>>> LBA Sectors 156250000
>>>>>>> Buffer 2 MB
>>>>>>> Multiple Sectors 16
>>>>>>> ECC Bytes 4
>>>>>>> Max. PIO Transfer Mode PIO 4
>>>>>>> Max. UDMA Transfer Mode UDMA 5
>>>>>>> (ATA-100) Active UDMA Transfer Mode
>>>>>>> UDMA 2 (ATA-33) Unformatted Capacity
>>>>>>> 76294 MB
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ATA Device Features:
>>>>>>> SMART Supported
>>>>>>> Security Mode Supported
>>>>>>> Power Management Supported
>>>>>>> Advanced Power Management Not
>>>>>>> Supported Write Cache
>>>>>>> Supported Host Protected Area
>>>>>>> Supported Power-Up In Standby
>>>>>>> Not Supported Automatic Acoustic Management
>>>>>>> Supported 48-bit LBA
>>>>>>> Supported Device Configuration Overlay
>>>>>>> Supported
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> [ HDT722516DLAT80 (VD0D1CTCDK8WLE) ]
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ATA Device Properties:
>>>>>>> Model ID
>>>>>>> HDT722516DLAT80 Serial Number
>>>>>>> VD0D1CTCDK8WLE Revision
>>>>>>> V43OA70A Parameters
>>>>>>> 319120
>>>>>>> cylinders, 16 heads, 63 sectors per track, 512 bytes per sector
>>>>>>> LBA Sectors 321672960
>>>>>>> Buffer 7674 KB
>>>>>>> (Dual Ported, Read Ahead)
>>>>>>> Multiple Sectors 16
>>>>>>> ECC Bytes 51

 

[Chuck]

In order:
Not yet.
Yes.
They are.
I have.
As far as I can tell. Will check again tonight.
Not sure if they're 80-wire cables or not (for the HDDs).


"Gerry" wrote:

> Chuck
>
>
> Did you complete the surface scans with HD Tune?
>
> Here's a shortened version of the link:
> http://snipurl.com/1v1xe
>
> Another also from the Seagate site:
> http://snipurl.com/1v1xj
>
> Have you looked inside your computer case?
> http://support.dell.com/support/edocs/systems/dim4600/en/4600i/sm/parts.htm#1138667
>
> Are the fans all working? Have you cleaned inside with an Air Duster?
> Are the cables for the hard drive and CD drive correctly connected?
>
> --
>
>
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> Gerry
> ~~~~
> FCA
> Stourport, England
> Enquire, plan and execute
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
> Chuck wrote:
> > Can't open that link for whatever reason, but if it'sjust the
> > procedure outlined below,
> > then yes, I've tried that at least a half-dozen times. Doesn't do a
> > &^%$#* thing.
> > Which really annoys, because everybody else who's tried it says it
> > fixed 'em right off.
> > I've unistalled the IDE channel, the drive itself, even edited the
> > registry attempting to fix this.
> > Is there ANYTHING else that might cause it?
> >
> > "Gerry" wrote:
> >
> >> Did you try anything in this link?
> >>
> >> http://seagate.custhelp.com:80/cgi-...h0PXdyb25nIG1vZGU*&p_li=&p_topview=1Uninstall
> >>
> >> Uninstall and reinstall the affected channel, "Primary IDE Channel"
> >> or "Secondary IDE Channel". Reboot the system and Windows XP will
> >> reinstall the driver for the channel.
> >>
> >> Open Device Manager.
> >> Double-click on IDE ATA/ATAPI controllers
> >> Right-click on Primary IDE Channel or Secondary IDE Channel and
> >> select uninstall.
> >> Click on "Ok".
> >> Restart the system.
> >> Upon restart, Windows will reinstall the Primary or Secondary IDE
> >> channel.
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Hope this helps.
> >>
> >> Gerry
> >> ~~~~
> >> FCA
> >> Stourport, England
> >> Enquire, plan and execute
> >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> >>
> >>
> >> Chuck wrote:
> >>> See, there's where I'm confused. because it's still slow as
> >>> molasses, still PIO.
> >>>
> >>> "Gerry" wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Chuck
> >>>>
> >>>> Those reports look fine. Keep up the good work <G>.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Hope this helps.
> >>>>
> >>>> Gerry
> >>>> ~~~~
> >>>> FCA
> >>>> Stourport, England
> >>>> Enquire, plan and execute
> >>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> >>>> Chuck wrote:
> >>>>> OK--from Health tab:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> HD Tune: ST380011A Health
> >>>>>
> >>>>> ID Current Worst ThresholdData
> >>>>> Status
> >>>>> (01) Raw Read Error Rate 64 58 6
> >>>>> 235338212 Ok
> >>>>>
> >>>>> (03) Spin Up Time 98 98 0 0
> >>>>> Ok
> >>>>>
> >>>>> (04) Start/Stop Count 100 100 20 276
> >>>>> Ok
> >>>>>
> >>>>> (05) Reallocated Sector Count 100 100 36 0
> >>>>> Ok
> >>>>>
> >>>>> (07) Seek Error Rate 86 60 30
> >>>>> 454928957 Ok
> >>>>>
> >>>>> (09) Power On Hours Count 89 89 0 10140
> >>>>> Ok
> >>>>>
> >>>>> (0A) Spin Retry Count 100 100 97 0
> >>>>> Ok
> >>>>>
> >>>>> (0C) Power Cycle Count 99 99 20 1898
> >>>>> Ok
> >>>>>
> >>>>> (C2) Temperature 32 40 0 32
> >>>>> Ok
> >>>>>
> >>>>> (C3) Hardware ECC Recovered 64 57 0
> >>>>> 235338212 Ok
> >>>>>
> >>>>> (C5) Current Pending Sector 100 100 0 0
> >>>>> Ok
> >>>>>
> >>>>> (C6) Offline Uncorrectable 100 100 0 0
> >>>>> Ok
> >>>>>
> >>>>> (C7) Ultra DMA CRC Error Count 200 200 0 0
> >>>>> Ok
> >>>>>
> >>>>> (C8) Write Error Rate 100 253 0 0
> >>>>> Ok
> >>>>>
> >>>>> (CA) TA Counter Increased 100 253 0 0
> >>>>> Ok
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Power On Time : 10140
> >>>>> Health Status : Ok
> >>>>>
> >>>>> AND...
> >>>>>
> >>>>> HD Tune: HDT722516DLAT80 Health
> >>>>>
> >>>>> ID Current Worst ThresholdData
> >>>>> Status
> >>>>>
> >>>>> (01) Raw Read Error Rate 100 100 16 0
> >>>>> Ok
> >>>>>
> >>>>> (02) Throughput Performance 100 100 50 0
> >>>>> Ok
> >>>>>
> >>>>> (03) Spin Up Time 110 110 24
> >>>>> 20971836 Ok
> >>>>>
> >>>>> (04) Start/Stop Count 100 100 0 410
> >>>>> Ok
> >>>>>
> >>>>> (05) Reallocated Sector Count 100 100 5 2
> >>>>> Ok
> >>>>>
> >>>>> (07) Seek Error Rate 100 100 67 0
> >>>>> Ok
> >>>>>
> >>>>> (08) Seek Time Performance 100 100 20 0
> >>>>> Ok
> >>>>>
> >>>>> (09) Power On Hours Count 100 100 0 2237
> >>>>> Ok
> >>>>>
> >>>>> (0A) Spin Retry Count 100 100 60 0
> >>>>> Ok
> >>>>>
> >>>>> (0C) Power Cycle Count 100 100 0 360
> >>>>> Ok
> >>>>>
> >>>>> (C0) Power Off Retract Count 100 100 50 454
> >>>>> Ok
> >>>>>
> >>>>> (C1) Load Cycle Count 100 100 50 454
> >>>>> Ok
> >>>>>
> >>>>> (C2) Temperature 166 166 0 589857
> >>>>> Ok
> >>>>>
> >>>>> (C4) Reallocated Event Count 100 100 0 3
> >>>>> Ok
> >>>>>
> >>>>> (C5) Current Pending Sector 100 100 0 0
> >>>>> Ok
> >>>>>
> >>>>> (C6) Offline Uncorrectable 100 100 0 0
> >>>>> Ok
> >>>>>
> >>>>> (C7) Ultra DMA CRC Error Count 200 253 0 0
> >>>>> Ok
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Power On Time : 2237
> >>>>> Health Status : Ok
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I'll run a scan later because the smaller of the two drives is
> >>>>> still 75GB, and it'll take all night.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Thanks!
> >>>>>
> >>>>> "Gerry" wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> http://seagate.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/seagate.cfg/php/enduser/
> >>>>> std_adp.php?p_faqid=1326&p_created=1041975245&p_sid=Q*ffSNSi&p_accessibility=0&p_redirect=&p_lva=&p_sp=cF9zcmNoPTEmcF9zb3J0X2J5PSZwX2dyaWRzb3J0PSZwX3Jvd19jbnQ9MTY0LDE2NCZwX3Byb2RzPTAmcF9jYXRzPTAmcF9wdj0mcF9jdj0mcF9zZWFyY2hfdHlwZT1hbnN3ZXJzLnNlYXJjaF9ubCZwX3BhZ2U9MSZwX3NlYXJjaF90ZXh0PXdyb25nIG1vZGU*&p_li=&p_topview=1
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Try running HD Tune(freeware).
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Download and run it and see what it turns up.
> >>>>>> http://www.hdtune.com/
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Select the Info tabs and place the cursor on the drive under
> >>>>>> Drive letter and then double click the two page icon ( copy to
> >>>>>> Clipboard ) and copy into a further message.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Select the Health tab and then double click the two page icon (
> >>>>>> copy to Clipboard ) and copy into a further message. Also do a
> >>>>>> full surface scan with HD Tune.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> --
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Hope this helps.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Gerry
> >>>>>> ~~~~
> >>>>>> FCA
> >>>>>> Stourport, England
> >>>>>> Enquire, plan and execute
> >>>>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Chuck wrote:
> >>>>>>> Hi, all. Here's my dilemma.
> >>>>>>> I was using my boy's PC the other day to rip a DVD, when I
> >>>>>>> noticed his drive was running at least 2x what mine does. SO I
> >>>>>>> got to poking around in my system info, and found many strange
> >>>>>>> things. Both my HDDs are running at a lower UDMA mode than they
> >>>>>>> are rated for. In fact, one is, I believe, running in PIO, and
> >>>>>>> defeats all attempts to reset it. Here is info, taken from
> >>>>>>> EVEREST:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Computer:
> >>>>>>> Operating System Microsoft
> >>>>>>> Windows XP Home Edition
> >>>>>>> OS Service Pack Service
> >>>>>>> Pack 2 DirectX
> >>>>>>> 4.09.00.0904 (DirectX 9.0c)
> >>>>>>> Computer Name PC1 (Our
> >>>>>>> PC) User Name Chuck
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Motherboard:
> >>>>>>> CPU Type Intel
> >>>>>>> Pentium 4, 2800 MHz (14 x 200)
> >>>>>>> Motherboard Name Dell
> >>>>>>> Dimension 4600i Motherboard Chipset
> >>>>>>> Intel Springdale-G
> >>>>>>> i865G
> >>>>>>> System Memory 1024 MB
> >>>>>>> (PC3200 DDR SDRAM)
> >>>>>>> BIOS Type Phoenix
> >>>>>>> (08/26/04)
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Storage:
> >>>>>>> IDE Controller Intel(R)
> >>>>>>> 82801EB Ultra ATA Storage Controllers
> >>>>>>> IDE Controller Intel(R)
> >>>>>>> 82801EB Ultra ATA Storage Controllers
> >>>>>>> Disk Drive ST380011A
> >>>>>>> (80 GB, 7200 RPM, Ultra-ATA/100)
> >>>>>>> Disk Drive
> >>>>>>> HDT722516DLAT80 (160 GB, 7200 RPM, Ultra-ATA/133)
> >>>>>>> Optical Drive LITE-ON
> >>>>>>> DVDRW SOHW-1693S
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> [ ST380011A (3JV9C0LL) ]
> >>>>>>>

 

[Paul]

Chuck wrote:
> HI, LV (?)
> Thanks for the help, but as I just told Gerry, I've tried that at least 1/2
> dozen times to no effect. I have also tried the registry edit described. But
> something occurs to me. I'll have to look at home (at work now), but I seem
> to recall that in that entry, the list of drives (00000, 00001, etc, or
> however it goes) didn't have 00001, which would be the drive in question.
> Well, the one in PIO, anyway. Even the faster drive is still running at only
> UDMA 2.
> Argh!

Looking through your listing again, I can see another potential mechanism.

You have an ICH5/ICH5R chipset. The Southbridge has options for "Enhanced"
(PCI bus mapped drives) or "Compatible" (I/O mapped drives). Compatible mode
restricts usage to four of six possible drives, and compatible is used when
working with Win98.

The ICH5 has room for six disks. The Primary ribbon cable holds two disks.
The Secondary ribbon cable holds two disks. There are two SATA ports and
they have room for two disks (and are treated by the BIOS as if they were
a third ribbon cable). If the BIOS is put in "Compatible" mode, the user
is offer options to choose any two of three "ribbon cables" for their
drive selection. So there should be, perhaps, three choices for hard drive
config (to choose which four of six drives to support).

OK, now what happens in Enhanced mode (suitable for Win2K/WinXP etc) ?
Well, Enhanced makes all six drive ports available. Which means there is
no need to make a "sub choice" in the BIOS, as to which drives to use,
because with Enhanced, all drives work.

It turns out, if a user selects Enhanced, some BIOS still have the disk
selection item. Only one of the three choices then is correct (it might
say "SATA" perhaps). The other two choices will cause slow drive operation!

Check the BIOS. Usually the BIOS default values, are the ones which are
functionally correct. So check the manual for guidance.

Paul

>
> "LVTravel" wrote:
>
>> Right click My Computer, left click Manage then click on Device Manager.
>> Click on + mark next to IDE ATA....controllers (obviously you know how to
>> get there but I give instructions just in case). Right click on the IDE
>> Channel that you are having an issue with and Uninstall it. Reboot the
>> computer. The computer will find and reinstall the driver. See if that
>> fixed your issue with PIO.
>>
>> Information from http://winhlp.com/node/10
>>
>> For repeated DMA errors. Windows XP will turn off DMA mode for a device
>> after encountering certain errors during data transfer operations. If more
>> that six DMA transfer timeouts occur, Windows will turn off DMA and use only
>> PIO mode on that device.
>> In this case, the user cannot turn on DMA for this device. The only option
>> for the user who wants to enable DMA mode is to uninstall and reinstall the
>> device.
>>
>> Windows XP downgrades the Ultra DMA transfer mode after receiving more than
>> six CRC errors. Whenever possible, the operating system will step down one
>> UDMA mode at a time (from UDMA mode 4 to UDMA mode 3, and so on).
>>
>> Hope this information helps, let us know.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "Chuck" <Chuck@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:FE5CFB4C-EF83-4609-B1AD-E7C231610413@microsoft.com...
>>> Hi, all. Here's my dilemma.
>>> I was using my boy's PC the other day to rip a DVD, when I noticed his
>>> drive
>>> was running at least 2x what mine does. SO I got to poking around in my
>>> system info, and found many strange things. Both my HDDs are running at a
>>> lower UDMA mode than they are rated for. In fact, one is, I believe,
>>> running
>>> in PIO, and defeats all attempts to reset it. Here is info, taken from
>>> EVEREST:
>>>
>>> Computer:
>>> Operating System Microsoft Windows
>>> XP
>>> Home Edition
>>> OS Service Pack Service Pack 2
>>> DirectX 4.09.00.0904
>>> (DirectX 9.0c)
>>> Computer Name PC1 (Our PC)
>>> User Name Chuck
>>>
>>> Motherboard:
>>> CPU Type Intel Pentium 4,
>>> 2800 MHz (14 x 200)
>>> Motherboard Name Dell Dimension
>>> 4600i
>>> Motherboard Chipset Intel Springdale-G
>>> i865G
>>> System Memory 1024 MB (PC3200
>>> DDR
>>> SDRAM)
>>> BIOS Type Phoenix (08/26/04)
>>>
>>> Storage:
>>> IDE Controller Intel(R) 82801EB
>>> Ultra ATA Storage Controllers
>>> IDE Controller Intel(R) 82801EB
>>> Ultra ATA Storage Controllers
>>> Disk Drive ST380011A (80 GB,
>>> 7200 RPM, Ultra-ATA/100)
>>> Disk Drive HDT722516DLAT80
>>> (160 GB, 7200 RPM, Ultra-ATA/133)
>>> Optical Drive LITE-ON DVDRW
>>> SOHW-1693S
>>>
>>>
>>> [ ST380011A (3JV9C0LL) ]
>>>
>>> ATA Device Properties:
>>> Model ID ST380011A
>>> Serial Number 3JV9C0LL
>>> Revision 3.16
>>> Parameters 155010 cylinders,
>>> 16
>>> heads, 63 sectors per track, 512 bytes per sector
>>> LBA Sectors 156250000
>>> Buffer 2 MB
>>> Multiple Sectors 16
>>> ECC Bytes 4
>>> Max. PIO Transfer Mode PIO 4
>>> Max. UDMA Transfer Mode UDMA 5 (ATA-100)
>>> Active UDMA Transfer Mode UDMA 2 (ATA-33)
>>> Unformatted Capacity 76294 MB
>>>
>>> ATA Device Features:
>>> SMART Supported
>>> Security Mode Supported
>>> Power Management Supported
>>> Advanced Power Management Not Supported
>>> Write Cache Supported
>>> Host Protected Area Supported
>>> Power-Up In Standby Not Supported
>>> Automatic Acoustic Management Supported
>>> 48-bit LBA Supported
>>> Device Configuration Overlay Supported
>>>
>>>
>>> [ HDT722516DLAT80 (VD0D1CTCDK8WLE) ]
>>>
>>> ATA Device Properties:
>>> Model ID HDT722516DLAT80
>>> Serial Number VD0D1CTCDK8WLE
>>> Revision V43OA70A
>>> Parameters 319120 cylinders,
>>> 16
>>> heads, 63 sectors per track, 512 bytes per sector
>>> LBA Sectors 321672960
>>> Buffer 7674 KB (Dual
>>> Ported, Read Ahead)
>>> Multiple Sectors 16
>>> ECC Bytes 51
>>> Max. PIO Transfer Mode PIO 4
>>> Max. UDMA Transfer Mode UDMA 6 (ATA-133)
>>> Active UDMA Transfer Mode UDMA 0
>>> Unformatted Capacity 157067 MB
>>>
>>> ATA Device Features:
>>> SMART Supported
>>> Security Mode Supported
>>> Power Management Supported
>>> Advanced Power Management Supported
>>> Write Cache Supported
>>> Host Protected Area Supported
>>> Power-Up In Standby Supported
>>> Automatic Acoustic Management Supported
>>> 48-bit LBA Supported
>>> Device Configuration Overlay Supported
>>>
>>>
>>> As you can see, one's slow, one seems to be in totally non-UDMA mode. In
>>> Device Mgr, under Primary IDE Channel, Device 0 seems to correspond to the
>>> ST3800, and is shown at UDMA 2. Device 1 is shown as PIO [Transfer
>>> ModeMA
>>> if available], with no option to change it. I am at a total loss. I've
>>> tried
>>> everything I can think of, from uninstalling the HDD and rebooting in
>>> hopes
>>> it would redetect the UDMA settings,. to registry editing. Nothing works.
>>> Help!!
>>>
>>> Chuck
>>>
>>>
>>
>>

 

[Chuck]

Thanks, Paul. I'll check that out. I did crack the case tonight, and it does
look as though Dell stuck me with a '40-wire' cable as opposed to 80. From
what I read, that could definitely affect my throughput, but I don't know
about kicking me to PIO. Thoughts?

"Paul" wrote:

> Chuck wrote:
> > HI, LV (?)
> > Thanks for the help, but as I just told Gerry, I've tried that at least 1/2
> > dozen times to no effect. I have also tried the registry edit described. But
> > something occurs to me. I'll have to look at home (at work now), but I seem
> > to recall that in that entry, the list of drives (00000, 00001, etc, or
> > however it goes) didn't have 00001, which would be the drive in question.
> > Well, the one in PIO, anyway. Even the faster drive is still running at only
> > UDMA 2.
> > Argh!
>
> Looking through your listing again, I can see another potential mechanism.
>
> You have an ICH5/ICH5R chipset. The Southbridge has options for "Enhanced"
> (PCI bus mapped drives) or "Compatible" (I/O mapped drives). Compatible mode
> restricts usage to four of six possible drives, and compatible is used when
> working with Win98.
>
> The ICH5 has room for six disks. The Primary ribbon cable holds two disks.
> The Secondary ribbon cable holds two disks. There are two SATA ports and
> they have room for two disks (and are treated by the BIOS as if they were
> a third ribbon cable). If the BIOS is put in "Compatible" mode, the user
> is offer options to choose any two of three "ribbon cables" for their
> drive selection. So there should be, perhaps, three choices for hard drive
> config (to choose which four of six drives to support).
>
> OK, now what happens in Enhanced mode (suitable for Win2K/WinXP etc) ?
> Well, Enhanced makes all six drive ports available. Which means there is
> no need to make a "sub choice" in the BIOS, as to which drives to use,
> because with Enhanced, all drives work.
>
> It turns out, if a user selects Enhanced, some BIOS still have the disk
> selection item. Only one of the three choices then is correct (it might
> say "SATA" perhaps). The other two choices will cause slow drive operation!
>
> Check the BIOS. Usually the BIOS default values, are the ones which are
> functionally correct. So check the manual for guidance.
>
> Paul
>
> >
> > "LVTravel" wrote:
> >
> >> Right click My Computer, left click Manage then click on Device Manager.
> >> Click on + mark next to IDE ATA....controllers (obviously you know how to
> >> get there but I give instructions just in case). Right click on the IDE
> >> Channel that you are having an issue with and Uninstall it. Reboot the
> >> computer. The computer will find and reinstall the driver. See if that
> >> fixed your issue with PIO.
> >>
> >> Information from http://winhlp.com/node/10
> >>
> >> For repeated DMA errors. Windows XP will turn off DMA mode for a device
> >> after encountering certain errors during data transfer operations. If more
> >> that six DMA transfer timeouts occur, Windows will turn off DMA and use only
> >> PIO mode on that device.
> >> In this case, the user cannot turn on DMA for this device. The only option
> >> for the user who wants to enable DMA mode is to uninstall and reinstall the
> >> device.
> >>
> >> Windows XP downgrades the Ultra DMA transfer mode after receiving more than
> >> six CRC errors. Whenever possible, the operating system will step down one
> >> UDMA mode at a time (from UDMA mode 4 to UDMA mode 3, and so on).
> >>
> >> Hope this information helps, let us know.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> "Chuck" <Chuck@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> news:FE5CFB4C-EF83-4609-B1AD-E7C231610413@microsoft.com...
> >>> Hi, all. Here's my dilemma.
> >>> I was using my boy's PC the other day to rip a DVD, when I noticed his
> >>> drive
> >>> was running at least 2x what mine does. SO I got to poking around in my
> >>> system info, and found many strange things. Both my HDDs are running at a
> >>> lower UDMA mode than they are rated for. In fact, one is, I believe,
> >>> running
> >>> in PIO, and defeats all attempts to reset it. Here is info, taken from
> >>> EVEREST:
> >>>
> >>> Computer:
> >>> Operating System Microsoft Windows
> >>> XP
> >>> Home Edition
> >>> OS Service Pack Service Pack 2
> >>> DirectX 4.09.00.0904
> >>> (DirectX 9.0c)
> >>> Computer Name PC1 (Our PC)
> >>> User Name Chuck
> >>>
> >>> Motherboard:
> >>> CPU Type Intel Pentium 4,
> >>> 2800 MHz (14 x 200)
> >>> Motherboard Name Dell Dimension
> >>> 4600i
> >>> Motherboard Chipset Intel Springdale-G
> >>> i865G
> >>> System Memory 1024 MB (PC3200
> >>> DDR
> >>> SDRAM)
> >>> BIOS Type Phoenix (08/26/04)
> >>>
> >>> Storage:
> >>> IDE Controller Intel(R) 82801EB
> >>> Ultra ATA Storage Controllers
> >>> IDE Controller Intel(R) 82801EB
> >>> Ultra ATA Storage Controllers
> >>> Disk Drive ST380011A (80 GB,
> >>> 7200 RPM, Ultra-ATA/100)
> >>> Disk Drive HDT722516DLAT80
> >>> (160 GB, 7200 RPM, Ultra-ATA/133)
> >>> Optical Drive LITE-ON DVDRW
> >>> SOHW-1693S
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> [ ST380011A (3JV9C0LL) ]
> >>>
> >>> ATA Device Properties:
> >>> Model ID ST380011A
> >>> Serial Number 3JV9C0LL
> >>> Revision 3.16
> >>> Parameters 155010 cylinders,
> >>> 16
> >>> heads, 63 sectors per track, 512 bytes per sector
> >>> LBA Sectors 156250000
> >>> Buffer 2 MB
> >>> Multiple Sectors 16
> >>> ECC Bytes 4
> >>> Max. PIO Transfer Mode PIO 4
> >>> Max. UDMA Transfer Mode UDMA 5 (ATA-100)
> >>> Active UDMA Transfer Mode UDMA 2 (ATA-33)
> >>> Unformatted Capacity 76294 MB
> >>>
> >>> ATA Device Features:
> >>> SMART Supported
> >>> Security Mode Supported
> >>> Power Management Supported
> >>> Advanced Power Management Not Supported
> >>> Write Cache Supported
> >>> Host Protected Area Supported
> >>> Power-Up In Standby Not Supported
> >>> Automatic Acoustic Management Supported
> >>> 48-bit LBA Supported
> >>> Device Configuration Overlay Supported
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> [ HDT722516DLAT80 (VD0D1CTCDK8WLE) ]
> >>>
> >>> ATA Device Properties:
> >>> Model ID HDT722516DLAT80
> >>> Serial Number VD0D1CTCDK8WLE
> >>> Revision V43OA70A
> >>> Parameters 319120 cylinders,
> >>> 16
> >>> heads, 63 sectors per track, 512 bytes per sector
> >>> LBA Sectors 321672960
> >>> Buffer 7674 KB (Dual
> >>> Ported, Read Ahead)
> >>> Multiple Sectors 16
> >>> ECC Bytes 51
> >>> Max. PIO Transfer Mode PIO 4
> >>> Max. UDMA Transfer Mode UDMA 6 (ATA-133)
> >>> Active UDMA Transfer Mode UDMA 0
> >>> Unformatted Capacity 157067 MB
> >>>
> >>> ATA Device Features:
> >>> SMART Supported
> >>> Security Mode Supported
> >>> Power Management Supported
> >>> Advanced Power Management Supported
> >>> Write Cache Supported
> >>> Host Protected Area Supported
> >>> Power-Up In Standby Supported
> >>> Automatic Acoustic Management Supported
> >>> 48-bit LBA Supported
> >>> Device Configuration Overlay Supported
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> As you can see, one's slow, one seems to be in totally non-UDMA mode. In
> >>> Device Mgr, under Primary IDE Channel, Device 0 seems to correspond to the
> >>> ST3800, and is shown at UDMA 2. Device 1 is shown as PIO [Transfer
> >>> ModeMA
> >>> if available], with no option to change it. I am at a total loss. I've
> >>> tried
> >>> everything I can think of, from uninstalling the HDD and rebooting in
> >>> hopes
> >>> it would redetect the UDMA settings,. to registry editing. Nothing works.
> >>> Help!!
> >>>
> >>> Chuck
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
>

 

[Paul]

Chuck wrote:
> Thanks, Paul. I'll check that out. I did crack the case tonight, and it does
> look as though Dell stuck me with a '40-wire' cable as opposed to 80. From
> what I read, that could definitely affect my throughput, but I don't know
> about kicking me to PIO. Thoughts?
>

AFAIK, that shouldn't be enough to cause PIO.

http://www.pcguide.com/ref/hdd/if/ide/conf_Cable80.htm

"The 80-conductor cable was first defined with the original Ultra DMA
modes 0, 1 and 2, covering transfer speeds up to 33.3 MB/s. The cable
is considered "optional" for those modes. However, for any Ultra DMA
modes above mode 2, the 80-conductor cable is mandatory."

You have to be careful with the ribbon cable thing. The first drive goes on
the end of the cable. If you had a single drive, and put it on the center
connector, that will cause CRC errors. The end of the cable is for the
first drive. When you have two drives, then there is no ambiguity there,
as both the center and end connector get used.

Paul

 

[Chuck]

OK, completed the scan with HDTune on my Hitachi drive (which is the one in
PIO)--
it took over 20 HOURS to run!
And found nothing--no errors.
Grrr....

"Gerry" wrote:

> Chuck
>
>
> Did you complete the surface scans with HD Tune?
>
> Here's a shortened version of the link:
> http://snipurl.com/1v1xe
>
> Another also from the Seagate site:
> http://snipurl.com/1v1xj
>
> Have you looked inside your computer case?
> http://support.dell.com/support/edocs/systems/dim4600/en/4600i/sm/parts.htm#1138667
>
> Are the fans all working? Have you cleaned inside with an Air Duster?
> Are the cables for the hard drive and CD drive correctly connected?
>
> --
>
>
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> Gerry
> ~~~~
> FCA
> Stourport, England
> Enquire, plan and execute
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
> Chuck wrote:
> > Can't open that link for whatever reason, but if it'sjust the
> > procedure outlined below,
> > then yes, I've tried that at least a half-dozen times. Doesn't do a
> > &^%$#* thing.
> > Which really annoys, because everybody else who's tried it says it
> > fixed 'em right off.
> > I've unistalled the IDE channel, the drive itself, even edited the
> > registry attempting to fix this.
> > Is there ANYTHING else that might cause it?
> >
> > "Gerry" wrote:
> >
> >> Did you try anything in this link?
> >>
> >> http://seagate.custhelp.com:80/cgi-...h0PXdyb25nIG1vZGU*&p_li=&p_topview=1Uninstall
> >>
> >> Uninstall and reinstall the affected channel, "Primary IDE Channel"
> >> or "Secondary IDE Channel". Reboot the system and Windows XP will
> >> reinstall the driver for the channel.
> >>
> >> Open Device Manager.
> >> Double-click on IDE ATA/ATAPI controllers
> >> Right-click on Primary IDE Channel or Secondary IDE Channel and
> >> select uninstall.
> >> Click on "Ok".
> >> Restart the system.
> >> Upon restart, Windows will reinstall the Primary or Secondary IDE
> >> channel.
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Hope this helps.
> >>
> >> Gerry
> >> ~~~~
> >> FCA
> >> Stourport, England
> >> Enquire, plan and execute
> >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> >>
> >>
> >> Chuck wrote:
> >>> See, there's where I'm confused. because it's still slow as
> >>> molasses, still PIO.
> >>>
> >>> "Gerry" wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Chuck
> >>>>
> >>>> Those reports look fine. Keep up the good work <G>.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Hope this helps.
> >>>>
> >>>> Gerry
> >>>> ~~~~
> >>>> FCA
> >>>> Stourport, England
> >>>> Enquire, plan and execute
> >>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> >>>> Chuck wrote:
> >>>>> OK--from Health tab:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> HD Tune: ST380011A Health
> >>>>>
> >>>>> ID Current Worst ThresholdData
> >>>>> Status
> >>>>> (01) Raw Read Error Rate 64 58 6
> >>>>> 235338212 Ok
> >>>>>
> >>>>> (03) Spin Up Time 98 98 0 0
> >>>>> Ok
> >>>>>
> >>>>> (04) Start/Stop Count 100 100 20 276
> >>>>> Ok
> >>>>>
> >>>>> (05) Reallocated Sector Count 100 100 36 0
> >>>>> Ok
> >>>>>
> >>>>> (07) Seek Error Rate 86 60 30
> >>>>> 454928957 Ok
> >>>>>
> >>>>> (09) Power On Hours Count 89 89 0 10140
> >>>>> Ok
> >>>>>
> >>>>> (0A) Spin Retry Count 100 100 97 0
> >>>>> Ok
> >>>>>
> >>>>> (0C) Power Cycle Count 99 99 20 1898
> >>>>> Ok
> >>>>>
> >>>>> (C2) Temperature 32 40 0 32
> >>>>> Ok
> >>>>>
> >>>>> (C3) Hardware ECC Recovered 64 57 0
> >>>>> 235338212 Ok
> >>>>>
> >>>>> (C5) Current Pending Sector 100 100 0 0
> >>>>> Ok
> >>>>>
> >>>>> (C6) Offline Uncorrectable 100 100 0 0
> >>>>> Ok
> >>>>>
> >>>>> (C7) Ultra DMA CRC Error Count 200 200 0 0
> >>>>> Ok
> >>>>>
> >>>>> (C8) Write Error Rate 100 253 0 0
> >>>>> Ok
> >>>>>
> >>>>> (CA) TA Counter Increased 100 253 0 0
> >>>>> Ok
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Power On Time : 10140
> >>>>> Health Status : Ok
> >>>>>
> >>>>> AND...
> >>>>>
> >>>>> HD Tune: HDT722516DLAT80 Health
> >>>>>
> >>>>> ID Current Worst ThresholdData
> >>>>> Status
> >>>>>
> >>>>> (01) Raw Read Error Rate 100 100 16 0
> >>>>> Ok
> >>>>>
> >>>>> (02) Throughput Performance 100 100 50 0
> >>>>> Ok
> >>>>>
> >>>>> (03) Spin Up Time 110 110 24
> >>>>> 20971836 Ok
> >>>>>
> >>>>> (04) Start/Stop Count 100 100 0 410
> >>>>> Ok
> >>>>>
> >>>>> (05) Reallocated Sector Count 100 100 5 2
> >>>>> Ok
> >>>>>
> >>>>> (07) Seek Error Rate 100 100 67 0
> >>>>> Ok
> >>>>>
> >>>>> (08) Seek Time Performance 100 100 20 0
> >>>>> Ok
> >>>>>
> >>>>> (09) Power On Hours Count 100 100 0 2237
> >>>>> Ok
> >>>>>
> >>>>> (0A) Spin Retry Count 100 100 60 0
> >>>>> Ok
> >>>>>
> >>>>> (0C) Power Cycle Count 100 100 0 360
> >>>>> Ok
> >>>>>
> >>>>> (C0) Power Off Retract Count 100 100 50 454
> >>>>> Ok
> >>>>>
> >>>>> (C1) Load Cycle Count 100 100 50 454
> >>>>> Ok
> >>>>>
> >>>>> (C2) Temperature 166 166 0 589857
> >>>>> Ok
> >>>>>
> >>>>> (C4) Reallocated Event Count 100 100 0 3
> >>>>> Ok
> >>>>>
> >>>>> (C5) Current Pending Sector 100 100 0 0
> >>>>> Ok
> >>>>>
> >>>>> (C6) Offline Uncorrectable 100 100 0 0
> >>>>> Ok
> >>>>>
> >>>>> (C7) Ultra DMA CRC Error Count 200 253 0 0
> >>>>> Ok
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Power On Time : 2237
> >>>>> Health Status : Ok
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I'll run a scan later because the smaller of the two drives is
> >>>>> still 75GB, and it'll take all night.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Thanks!
> >>>>>
> >>>>> "Gerry" wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> http://seagate.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/seagate.cfg/php/enduser/
> >>>>> std_adp.php?p_faqid=1326&p_created=1041975245&p_sid=Q*ffSNSi&p_accessibility=0&p_redirect=&p_lva=&p_sp=cF9zcmNoPTEmcF9zb3J0X2J5PSZwX2dyaWRzb3J0PSZwX3Jvd19jbnQ9MTY0LDE2NCZwX3Byb2RzPTAmcF9jYXRzPTAmcF9wdj0mcF9jdj0mcF9zZWFyY2hfdHlwZT1hbnN3ZXJzLnNlYXJjaF9ubCZwX3BhZ2U9MSZwX3NlYXJjaF90ZXh0PXdyb25nIG1vZGU*&p_li=&p_topview=1
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Try running HD Tune(freeware).
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Download and run it and see what it turns up.
> >>>>>> http://www.hdtune.com/
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Select the Info tabs and place the cursor on the drive under
> >>>>>> Drive letter and then double click the two page icon ( copy to
> >>>>>> Clipboard ) and copy into a further message.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Select the Health tab and then double click the two page icon (
> >>>>>> copy to Clipboard ) and copy into a further message. Also do a
> >>>>>> full surface scan with HD Tune.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> --
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Hope this helps.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Gerry
> >>>>>> ~~~~
> >>>>>> FCA
> >>>>>> Stourport, England
> >>>>>> Enquire, plan and execute
> >>>>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Chuck wrote:
> >>>>>>> Hi, all. Here's my dilemma.
> >>>>>>> I was using my boy's PC the other day to rip a DVD, when I
> >>>>>>> noticed his drive was running at least 2x what mine does. SO I
> >>>>>>> got to poking around in my system info, and found many strange
> >>>>>>> things. Both my HDDs are running at a lower UDMA mode than they
> >>>>>>> are rated for. In fact, one is, I believe, running in PIO, and
> >>>>>>> defeats all attempts to reset it. Here is info, taken from
> >>>>>>> EVEREST:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Computer:
> >>>>>>> Operating System Microsoft
> >>>>>>> Windows XP Home Edition
> >>>>>>> OS Service Pack Service
> >>>>>>> Pack 2 DirectX
> >>>>>>> 4.09.00.0904 (DirectX 9.0c)
> >>>>>>> Computer Name PC1 (Our
> >>>>>>> PC) User Name Chuck
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Motherboard:
> >>>>>>> CPU Type Intel
> >>>>>>> Pentium 4, 2800 MHz (14 x 200)
> >>>>>>> Motherboard Name Dell
> >>>>>>> Dimension 4600i Motherboard Chipset
> >>>>>>> Intel Springdale-G
> >>>>>>> i865G
> >>>>>>> System Memory 1024 MB
> >>>>>>> (PC3200 DDR SDRAM)
> >>>>>>> BIOS Type Phoenix
> >>>>>>> (08/26/04)
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Storage:
> >>>>>>> IDE Controller Intel(R)
> >>>>>>> 82801EB Ultra ATA Storage Controllers
> >>>>>>> IDE Controller Intel(R)
> >>>>>>> 82801EB Ultra ATA Storage Controllers
> >>>>>>> Disk Drive ST380011A
> >>>>>>> (80 GB, 7200 RPM, Ultra-ATA/100)
> >>>>>>> Disk Drive
> >>>>>>> HDT722516DLAT80 (160 GB, 7200 RPM, Ultra-ATA/133)
> >>>>>>> Optical Drive LITE-ON
> >>>>>>> DVDRW SOHW-1693S
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> [ ST380011A (3JV9C0LL) ]
> >>>>>>>

 

[Chuck]

Huzzah! We have UDMA! Not sure what I did, though. Went into Setup [F2 on
boot]: Primary Drive 1 was 'OFF'--I "turned it on", and the BIOS reported it
as an Unknown Device. I saved changes, continued, and BING! UDMA5 on both
HDDs! I thought I had done this before, but I must not have saved. Oh well.
Wheee!
<insert happy computer dance>

NOW--my DVD-RW is still running at UDMA2. From what I've read, it should be
faster than that. Am I correct, or way off base?

"Chuck" wrote:

> Hi, all. Here's my dilemma.
> I was using my boy's PC the other day to rip a DVD, when I noticed his drive
> was running at least 2x what mine does. SO I got to poking around in my
> system info, and found many strange things. Both my HDDs are running at a
> lower UDMA mode than they are rated for. In fact, one is, I believe, running
> in PIO, and defeats all attempts to reset it. Here is info, taken from
> EVEREST:
>
> Computer:
> Operating System Microsoft Windows XP
> Home Edition
> OS Service Pack Service Pack 2
> DirectX 4.09.00.0904
> (DirectX 9.0c)
> Computer Name PC1 (Our PC)
> User Name Chuck
>
> Motherboard:
> CPU Type Intel Pentium 4,
> 2800 MHz (14 x 200)
> Motherboard Name Dell Dimension 4600i
> Motherboard Chipset Intel Springdale-G
> i865G
> System Memory 1024 MB (PC3200 DDR
> SDRAM)
> BIOS Type Phoenix (08/26/04)
>
> Storage:
> IDE Controller Intel(R) 82801EB
> Ultra ATA Storage Controllers
> IDE Controller Intel(R) 82801EB
> Ultra ATA Storage Controllers
> Disk Drive ST380011A (80 GB,
> 7200 RPM, Ultra-ATA/100)
> Disk Drive HDT722516DLAT80
> (160 GB, 7200 RPM, Ultra-ATA/133)
> Optical Drive LITE-ON DVDRW
> SOHW-1693S
>
>
> [ ST380011A (3JV9C0LL) ]
>
> ATA Device Properties:
> Model ID ST380011A
> Serial Number 3JV9C0LL
> Revision 3.16
> Parameters 155010 cylinders, 16
> heads, 63 sectors per track, 512 bytes per sector
> LBA Sectors 156250000
> Buffer 2 MB
> Multiple Sectors 16
> ECC Bytes 4
> Max. PIO Transfer Mode PIO 4
> Max. UDMA Transfer Mode UDMA 5 (ATA-100)
> Active UDMA Transfer Mode UDMA 2 (ATA-33)
> Unformatted Capacity 76294 MB
>
> ATA Device Features:
> SMART Supported
> Security Mode Supported
> Power Management Supported
> Advanced Power Management Not Supported
> Write Cache Supported
> Host Protected Area Supported
> Power-Up In Standby Not Supported
> Automatic Acoustic Management Supported
> 48-bit LBA Supported
> Device Configuration Overlay Supported
>
>
> [ HDT722516DLAT80 (VD0D1CTCDK8WLE) ]
>
> ATA Device Properties:
> Model ID HDT722516DLAT80
> Serial Number VD0D1CTCDK8WLE
> Revision V43OA70A
> Parameters 319120 cylinders, 16
> heads, 63 sectors per track, 512 bytes per sector
> LBA Sectors 321672960
> Buffer 7674 KB (Dual
> Ported, Read Ahead)
> Multiple Sectors 16
> ECC Bytes 51
> Max. PIO Transfer Mode PIO 4
> Max. UDMA Transfer Mode UDMA 6 (ATA-133)
> Active UDMA Transfer Mode UDMA 0
> Unformatted Capacity 157067 MB
>
> ATA Device Features:
> SMART Supported
> Security Mode Supported
> Power Management Supported
> Advanced Power Management Supported
> Write Cache Supported
> Host Protected Area Supported
> Power-Up In Standby Supported
> Automatic Acoustic Management Supported
> 48-bit LBA Supported
> Device Configuration Overlay Supported
>
>
> As you can see, one's slow, one seems to be in totally non-UDMA mode. In
> Device Mgr, under Primary IDE Channel, Device 0 seems to correspond to the
> ST3800, and is shown at UDMA 2. Device 1 is shown as PIO [Transfer ModeMA
> if available], with no option to change it. I am at a total loss. I've tried
> everything I can think of, from uninstalling the HDD and rebooting in hopes
> it would redetect the UDMA settings,. to registry editing. Nothing works.
> Help!!
>
> Chuck
>
>

 

[Lil' Dave]

At the get-go, if implementing UDMA, 3 things must be in place for max I/O
speed in windows. The hard drive must be able to deliver, next, the 80 wire
cable of proper length must be in place, next, the bios must be UDMA capable
and implemented.

When all this is done, then do the remove ide trick in device manager. And,
reboot.

Proper sequence of steps is as important as the steps themselves.

--
Dave
"Chuck" <Chuck@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:2C18F158-CCD6-4620-8022-3FC4EC8D4B87@microsoft.com...
> Thanks, Paul. I'll check that out. I did crack the case tonight, and it
> does
> look as though Dell stuck me with a '40-wire' cable as opposed to 80. From
> what I read, that could definitely affect my throughput, but I don't know
> about kicking me to PIO. Thoughts?
>
> "Paul" wrote:
>
>> Chuck wrote:
>> > HI, LV (?)
>> > Thanks for the help, but as I just told Gerry, I've tried that at least
>> > 1/2
>> > dozen times to no effect. I have also tried the registry edit
>> > described. But
>> > something occurs to me. I'll have to look at home (at work now), but I
>> > seem
>> > to recall that in that entry, the list of drives (00000, 00001, etc, or
>> > however it goes) didn't have 00001, which would be the drive in
>> > question.
>> > Well, the one in PIO, anyway. Even the faster drive is still running at
>> > only
>> > UDMA 2.
>> > Argh!
>>
>> Looking through your listing again, I can see another potential
>> mechanism.
>>
>> You have an ICH5/ICH5R chipset. The Southbridge has options for
>> "Enhanced"
>> (PCI bus mapped drives) or "Compatible" (I/O mapped drives). Compatible
>> mode
>> restricts usage to four of six possible drives, and compatible is used
>> when
>> working with Win98.
>>
>> The ICH5 has room for six disks. The Primary ribbon cable holds two
>> disks.
>> The Secondary ribbon cable holds two disks. There are two SATA ports and
>> they have room for two disks (and are treated by the BIOS as if they were
>> a third ribbon cable). If the BIOS is put in "Compatible" mode, the user
>> is offer options to choose any two of three "ribbon cables" for their
>> drive selection. So there should be, perhaps, three choices for hard
>> drive
>> config (to choose which four of six drives to support).
>>
>> OK, now what happens in Enhanced mode (suitable for Win2K/WinXP etc) ?
>> Well, Enhanced makes all six drive ports available. Which means there is
>> no need to make a "sub choice" in the BIOS, as to which drives to use,
>> because with Enhanced, all drives work.
>>
>> It turns out, if a user selects Enhanced, some BIOS still have the disk
>> selection item. Only one of the three choices then is correct (it might
>> say "SATA" perhaps). The other two choices will cause slow drive
>> operation!
>>
>> Check the BIOS. Usually the BIOS default values, are the ones which are
>> functionally correct. So check the manual for guidance.
>>
>> Paul
>>
>> >
>> > "LVTravel" wrote:
>> >
>> >> Right click My Computer, left click Manage then click on Device
>> >> Manager.
>> >> Click on + mark next to IDE ATA....controllers (obviously you know how
>> >> to
>> >> get there but I give instructions just in case). Right click on the
>> >> IDE
>> >> Channel that you are having an issue with and Uninstall it. Reboot
>> >> the
>> >> computer. The computer will find and reinstall the driver. See if
>> >> that
>> >> fixed your issue with PIO.
>> >>
>> >> Information from http://winhlp.com/node/10
>> >>
>> >> For repeated DMA errors. Windows XP will turn off DMA mode for a
>> >> device
>> >> after encountering certain errors during data transfer operations. If
>> >> more
>> >> that six DMA transfer timeouts occur, Windows will turn off DMA and
>> >> use only
>> >> PIO mode on that device.
>> >> In this case, the user cannot turn on DMA for this device. The only
>> >> option
>> >> for the user who wants to enable DMA mode is to uninstall and
>> >> reinstall the
>> >> device.
>> >>
>> >> Windows XP downgrades the Ultra DMA transfer mode after receiving more
>> >> than
>> >> six CRC errors. Whenever possible, the operating system will step down
>> >> one
>> >> UDMA mode at a time (from UDMA mode 4 to UDMA mode 3, and so on).
>> >>
>> >> Hope this information helps, let us know.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> "Chuck" <Chuck@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> >> news:FE5CFB4C-EF83-4609-B1AD-E7C231610413@microsoft.com...
>> >>> Hi, all. Here's my dilemma.
>> >>> I was using my boy's PC the other day to rip a DVD, when I noticed
>> >>> his
>> >>> drive
>> >>> was running at least 2x what mine does. SO I got to poking around in
>> >>> my
>> >>> system info, and found many strange things. Both my HDDs are running
>> >>> at a
>> >>> lower UDMA mode than they are rated for. In fact, one is, I believe,
>> >>> running
>> >>> in PIO, and defeats all attempts to reset it. Here is info, taken
>> >>> from
>> >>> EVEREST:
>> >>>
>> >>> Computer:
>> >>> Operating System Microsoft
>> >>> Windows
>> >>> XP
>> >>> Home Edition
>> >>> OS Service Pack Service Pack 2
>> >>> DirectX 4.09.00.0904
>> >>> (DirectX 9.0c)
>> >>> Computer Name PC1 (Our PC)
>> >>> User Name Chuck
>> >>>
>> >>> Motherboard:
>> >>> CPU Type Intel Pentium
>> >>> 4,
>> >>> 2800 MHz (14 x 200)
>> >>> Motherboard Name Dell Dimension
>> >>> 4600i
>> >>> Motherboard Chipset Intel
>> >>> Springdale-G
>> >>> i865G
>> >>> System Memory 1024 MB
>> >>> (PC3200
>> >>> DDR
>> >>> SDRAM)
>> >>> BIOS Type Phoenix
>> >>> (08/26/04)
>> >>>
>> >>> Storage:
>> >>> IDE Controller Intel(R)
>> >>> 82801EB
>> >>> Ultra ATA Storage Controllers
>> >>> IDE Controller Intel(R)
>> >>> 82801EB
>> >>> Ultra ATA Storage Controllers
>> >>> Disk Drive ST380011A (80
>> >>> GB,
>> >>> 7200 RPM, Ultra-ATA/100)
>> >>> Disk Drive
>> >>> HDT722516DLAT80
>> >>> (160 GB, 7200 RPM, Ultra-ATA/133)
>> >>> Optical Drive LITE-ON DVDRW
>> >>> SOHW-1693S
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> [ ST380011A (3JV9C0LL) ]
>> >>>
>> >>> ATA Device Properties:
>> >>> Model ID ST380011A
>> >>> Serial Number 3JV9C0LL
>> >>> Revision 3.16
>> >>> Parameters 155010
>> >>> cylinders,
>> >>> 16
>> >>> heads, 63 sectors per track, 512 bytes per sector
>> >>> LBA Sectors 156250000
>> >>> Buffer 2 MB
>> >>> Multiple Sectors 16
>> >>> ECC Bytes 4
>> >>> Max. PIO Transfer Mode PIO 4
>> >>> Max. UDMA Transfer Mode UDMA 5
>> >>> (ATA-100)
>> >>> Active UDMA Transfer Mode UDMA 2
>> >>> (ATA-33)
>> >>> Unformatted Capacity 76294 MB
>> >>>
>> >>> ATA Device Features:
>> >>> SMART Supported
>> >>> Security Mode Supported
>> >>> Power Management Supported
>> >>> Advanced Power Management Not Supported
>> >>> Write Cache Supported
>> >>> Host Protected Area Supported
>> >>> Power-Up In Standby Not Supported
>> >>> Automatic Acoustic Management Supported
>> >>> 48-bit LBA Supported
>> >>> Device Configuration Overlay Supported
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> [ HDT722516DLAT80 (VD0D1CTCDK8WLE) ]
>> >>>
>> >>> ATA Device Properties:
>> >>> Model ID
>> >>> HDT722516DLAT80
>> >>> Serial Number VD0D1CTCDK8WLE
>> >>> Revision V43OA70A
>> >>> Parameters 319120
>> >>> cylinders,
>> >>> 16
>> >>> heads, 63 sectors per track, 512 bytes per sector
>> >>> LBA Sectors 321672960
>> >>> Buffer 7674 KB (Dual
>> >>> Ported, Read Ahead)
>> >>> Multiple Sectors 16
>> >>> ECC Bytes 51
>> >>> Max. PIO Transfer Mode PIO 4
>> >>> Max. UDMA Transfer Mode UDMA 6
>> >>> (ATA-133)
>> >>> Active UDMA Transfer Mode UDMA 0
>> >>> Unformatted Capacity 157067 MB
>> >>>
>> >>> ATA Device Features:
>> >>> SMART Supported
>> >>> Security Mode Supported
>> >>> Power Management Supported
>> >>> Advanced Power Management Supported
>> >>> Write Cache Supported
>> >>> Host Protected Area Supported
>> >>> Power-Up In Standby Supported
>> >>> Automatic Acoustic Management Supported
>> >>> 48-bit LBA Supported
>> >>> Device Configuration Overlay Supported
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> As you can see, one's slow, one seems to be in totally non-UDMA mode.
>> >>> In
>> >>> Device Mgr, under Primary IDE Channel, Device 0 seems to correspond
>> >>> to the
>> >>> ST3800, and is shown at UDMA 2. Device 1 is shown as PIO [Transfer
>> >>> ModeMA
>> >>> if available], with no option to change it. I am at a total loss.
>> >>> I've
>> >>> tried
>> >>> everything I can think of, from uninstalling the HDD and rebooting in
>> >>> hopes
>> >>> it would redetect the UDMA settings,. to registry editing. Nothing
>> >>> works.
>> >>> Help!!
>> >>>
>> >>> Chuck
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >>
>>