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Alias wrote:

> Sonny wrote:
>
>> Is this any good? Anyone tried it?
>>
>
> To get an idea of the difference between Ubuntu and Vista, watch this
> but note that this an older version of Ubuntu and it's gotten better
> since then:
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xC5uEe5OzNQ
>
> Alias

Like the idiot you are, you're telling people to make a decision on
which os is better based on eye-candy...LOL!
Get real!
Frank
 
Mike Hall - MVP wrote:

> "kurttrail" <dontemailme@anywhereintheknownuniverse.org> wrote in
> message news:TO1Qj.142$c.51@fe83.usenetserver.com...
>> Mike Hall - MVP wrote:
>>
>>> "kurttrail" <dontemailme@anywhereintheknownuniverse.org> wrote in
>>> message news:fL0Qj.137$c.49@fe83.usenetserver.com...
>>>> Mike Hall - MVP wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> "Sonny" <sonny@nospam.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:OZVeC7fpIHA.4736@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>>>> Is this any good? Anyone tried it?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> If you don't have the funds for a Windows OS, Ubuntu will get your
>>>>> computer up and running.
>>>>>
>>>>> There is a learning curve. If you are used to using Windows, quite a
>>>>> sharp one..
>>>>>
>>>>> The claim of '23000' programs available is true, BUT the average
>>>>> user would only find maybe 5 of any use.
>>>>>
>>>>> Some Windows programs will run under 'Wine'..
>>>>>
>>>>> A decent graphics card is required to get anything but an incredibly
>>>>> dull desktop look..
>>>>>
>>>>> Drivers for some hardware are non-existent..
>>>>
>>>> So you've downloaded, installed, and have evaluated the latest LTS
>>>> version of Ubuntu already?
>>>>
>>>> Ubuntu 8.04 was just released this morning.
>>>>
>>>> It would be like me reviewing Vista, based on only using XP.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Kurt
>>>
>>> The OP didn't mention any version number.
>>
>> Little hung over this morning? How could anyone that reads this group
>> regularly not know that Ubuntu 8.04 came out today? :)
>>
>>> Ubuntu has been available for
>>> a while.. :-)
>>
>> Oh, then that 5 program deal was just BS, right? Because there are a
>> hell of a lot more useful programs than that in any Linux distro.
>>
>> And yes there is a learning curve, but then again, there is a learning
>> curve moving to Vista from XP.
>>
>> I'm downloading 8.04 64bit right now. I'll be trying out the LiveCD as
>> soon as I'm able to burn the iso.
>>
>> --
>> Peace!
>> Kurt
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>> microscum.pubic.windowsexp.gonorrhea
>> "Produkt-Aktivierung macht frei!"
>>
>>
>
> The distro is full of stuff, yes. One might even call it 'bloated'.. :-)

Bloated? Hardly, unless you go hog crazy installing stuff.

> The 5 prig ref was more aimed at the 23000 other apps available through
> Synaptic manager

Actually, most noobs should probably stay clear of Synaptic and use
Ubuntu's add & remove programs tool, until they know what they are doing.

It's much easier to use anyway.

My download is almost done...

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"kurttrail" <dontemailme@anywhereintheknownuniverse.org> wrote in message
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> Mike Hall - MVP wrote:
>

>
> It's much easier to use anyway.
>

For nutbags like you
 
"Bill Yanaire" <bill@yanaire.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Sonny" <sonny@nospam.com> wrote in message
> news:OZVeC7fpIHA.4736@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> Is this any good? Anyone tried it?
>>
>
> Ubuntu is good if you just want to Surf the net, write a few E-Mail's and
> script a letter to your Mama
>
That's about it.
 
"kurttrail" <dontemailme@anywhereintheknownuniverse.org> wrote in message
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> Mike Hall - MVP wrote:
>
>> "kurttrail" <dontemailme@anywhereintheknownuniverse.org> wrote in
>> message news:fL0Qj.137$c.49@fe83.usenetserver.com...
>>> Mike Hall - MVP wrote:
>>>
>>>> "Sonny" <sonny@nospam.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:OZVeC7fpIHA.4736@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>>> Is this any good? Anyone tried it?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> If you don't have the funds for a Windows OS, Ubuntu will get your
>>>> computer up and running.
>>>>
>>>> There is a learning curve. If you are used to using Windows, quite a
>>>> sharp one..
>>>>
>>>> The claim of '23000' programs available is true, BUT the average user
>>>> would only find maybe 5 of any use.
>>>>
>>>> Some Windows programs will run under 'Wine'..
>>>>
>>>> A decent graphics card is required to get anything but an incredibly
>>>> dull desktop look..
>>>>
>>>> Drivers for some hardware are non-existent..
>>>
>>> So you've downloaded, installed, and have evaluated the latest LTS
>>> version of Ubuntu already?
>>>
>>> Ubuntu 8.04 was just released this morning.
>>>
>>> It would be like me reviewing Vista, based on only using XP.
>>>
>>
>> Kurt
>>
>> The OP didn't mention any version number.
>
> Little hung over this morning? How could anyone that reads this group
> regularly not know that Ubuntu 8.04 came out today? :)
>
>> Ubuntu has been available for
>> a while.. :-)
>
> Oh, then that 5 program deal was just BS, right? Because there are a
> hell of a lot more useful programs than that in any Linux distro.
>
> And yes there is a learning curve, but then again, there is a learning
> curve moving to Vista from XP.
>
> I'm downloading 8.04 64bit right now. I'll be trying out the LiveCD as
> soon as I'm able to burn the iso.
>
Who's going to do it for you nitwit?
 
"ray" <ray@zianet.com> wrote in message
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> On Thu, 24 Apr 2008 19:31:27 +0800, Sonny wrote:
>
>> Is this any good? Anyone tried it?
>
> First off - this is an MS group. I'd like to know why you posted here?
>
Be cause he's a low life that wishes he could afford Vista. Instead he ahs
to use free, poorly supported linsux
 
On Thu, 24 Apr 2008 12:59:30 -0400, smbdymf wrote:

> "ray" <ray@zianet.com> wrote in message
> news:67bloaF2n3rrnU4@mid.individual.net...
>> On Thu, 24 Apr 2008 19:31:27 +0800, Sonny wrote:
>>
>>> Is this any good? Anyone tried it?
>>
>> First off - this is an MS group. I'd like to know why you posted here?
>>
> Be cause he's a low life that wishes he could afford Vista. Instead he
> ahs to use free, poorly supported linsux

1) looked in dictionary - could not find "ahs" - please define.

2) not familiar with "linsux" could you please provide a link - then I can
ascertain for myself if it's "poorly supported".
 
"ray" <ray@zianet.com> wrote in message
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> On Thu, 24 Apr 2008 12:59:30 -0400, smbdymf wrote:
>
>> "ray" <ray@zianet.com> wrote in message
>> news:67bloaF2n3rrnU4@mid.individual.net...
>>> On Thu, 24 Apr 2008 19:31:27 +0800, Sonny wrote:
>>>
>>>> Is this any good? Anyone tried it?
>>>
>>> First off - this is an MS group. I'd like to know why you posted here?
>>>
>> Be cause he's a low life that wishes he could afford Vista. Instead he
>> ahs to use free, poorly supported linsux
>
> 1) looked in dictionary - could not find "ahs" - please define.
>
> 2) not familiar with "linsux" could you please provide a link - then I can
> ascertain for myself if it's "poorly supported".

Just go to the Ubuntu site. It sucks
 
On Thu, 24 Apr 2008 19:31:27 +0800, Sonny wrote:

> Is this any good? Anyone tried it?

LOL! Go away!

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-- Ludwig Wittgenstein
 
On Thu, 24 Apr 2008 14:24:18 GMT, kurttrail wrote:

> It would be like me reviewing Vista, based on only using XP.

You wouldn't be the first!

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"kurttrail" <dontemailme@anywhereintheknownuniverse.org> wrote in message
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> Mike Brannigan wrote:
>
>> "Sonny" <sonny@nospam.com> wrote in message
>> news:OZVeC7fpIHA.4736@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>> Is this any good? Anyone tried it?
>>>
>> No, and yes.
>
> So you've downloaded, installed, and have evaluated the latest LTS
> version of Ubuntu already?
>
> Ubuntu 8.04 was just released this morning.
>
> It would be like me reviewing Vista, based on only using XP.

I already have it running and partially customized, looks good. Went
through the hardware tests, installed the nVidia advanced drivers to get
advanced look and feel. I like certain apps and development options so
after a visit to the package manager we are rock'in. Got the wobbly windows
and roll tab features. Love that WinKey-Tab... 64 bit too. Nice.

Was difficult to find a mirror that wasn't on it's knees. Found one that
was only 91% full on a 1G interface, it came though slow, but did come in.
Will probably ease up in a few days as everyone and their brother is
downloading it.
 
"kurttrail" <dontemailme@anywhereintheknownuniverse.org> wrote in message
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> Mike Hall - MVP wrote:
>
>> "Sonny" <sonny@nospam.com> wrote in message
>> news:OZVeC7fpIHA.4736@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>> Is this any good? Anyone tried it?
>>>
>>>
>>
>> If you don't have the funds for a Windows OS, Ubuntu will get your
>> computer up and running.
>>
>> There is a learning curve. If you are used to using Windows, quite a
>> sharp one..
>>
>> The claim of '23000' programs available is true, BUT the average user
>> would only find maybe 5 of any use.
>>
>> Some Windows programs will run under 'Wine'..
>>
>> A decent graphics card is required to get anything but an incredibly
>> dull desktop look..
>>
>> Drivers for some hardware are non-existent..
>
> So you've downloaded, installed, and have evaluated the latest LTS
> version of Ubuntu already?
>
> Ubuntu 8.04 was just released this morning.
>
> It would be like me reviewing Vista, based on only using XP.

Could be. This site seems to show Ubuntu can some how install inside
Windows. Near the bottom of this link:

http://www.linuxformat.co.uk/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=682
 
In article <OZVeC7fpIHA.4736@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl>, sonny@nospam.com
says...
> Is this any good? Anyone tried it?

About as slow as XP, has a lot of open source software available and as
long as you don't interact with Windows Office 2003/2007 for business
documents you'll be fine with Open Office in most cases. You need to
verify that your printer (if you have one) works with it, fully
supported, before you make the leap - as well as any scanners/hardware.

You will find the most popular games are not ported to Linux yet and
that many video cards may not have fancy drivers yet.

If you don't mind tinkering then Linux is a good platform, Ubuntu is
average for quality.


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"Mike Hall - MVP" <mikehall@remove_mvps.com> wrote in message
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> "Canuck57" <dave-no_spam@unixhome.net> wrote in message
> news:kT0Qj.88341$rd2.76515@pd7urf3no...
>>
>> "Mike Hall - MVP" <mikehall@remove_mvps.com> wrote in message
>> news:uvZwGZgpIHA.5096@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>> "Sonny" <sonny@nospam.com> wrote in message
>>> news:OZVeC7fpIHA.4736@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>> Is this any good? Anyone tried it?
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> If you don't have the funds for a Windows OS, Ubuntu will get your
>>> computer up and running.
>>>
>>> There is a learning curve. If you are used to using Windows, quite a
>>> sharp one..
>>
>> How so? No regedit to learn for sure.
>>
>> Menus are much cleaner and better organized, that can't be it.
>>
>> OpenOffice installs right off with the OS and no license keys putzing,
>> that can't be it.
>>
>> Can't be versions, Ubuntu is one full destop version, lost count of Vista
>> version with missing features.
>>
>> Additional software can be had with Ubuntu and it does not ask for the
>> credit card like Vista, so that can't be it.
>>
>> Buttons are in the same place as XP, but Vista moved them around, so that
>> can't be it.
>>
>> Hm...I can't see why Ubuntu is harder to use. Learning curve for a XP
>> user shouldn't be that much at all.
>
> Keep guessing. I will tell you when you are 'warm'.. :-)

Out of ideas. You will have to tell us what items that make Ubuntu hard to
install. Certainly faster than Vista.
 
smbdymf wrote:

> "kurttrail" <dontemailme@anywhereintheknownuniverse.org> wrote in
> message news:ru2Qj.6310$q81.4343@fe71.usenetserver.com...
>> Mike Hall - MVP wrote:
>>
>>
>
>> It's much easier to use anyway.
>>
>>
> For nutbags like you

For Ubuntu noobs. I do us Synaptic.

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smbdymf wrote:

> "kurttrail" <dontemailme@anywhereintheknownuniverse.org> wrote in
> message news:TO1Qj.142$c.51@fe83.usenetserver.com...
>> Mike Hall - MVP wrote:
>>
>>> "kurttrail" <dontemailme@anywhereintheknownuniverse.org> wrote in
>>> message news:fL0Qj.137$c.49@fe83.usenetserver.com...
>>>> Mike Hall - MVP wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> "Sonny" <sonny@nospam.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:OZVeC7fpIHA.4736@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>>>> Is this any good? Anyone tried it?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> If you don't have the funds for a Windows OS, Ubuntu will get your
>>>>> computer up and running.
>>>>>
>>>>> There is a learning curve. If you are used to using Windows, quite a
>>>>> sharp one..
>>>>>
>>>>> The claim of '23000' programs available is true, BUT the average
>>>>> user would only find maybe 5 of any use.
>>>>>
>>>>> Some Windows programs will run under 'Wine'..
>>>>>
>>>>> A decent graphics card is required to get anything but an incredibly
>>>>> dull desktop look..
>>>>>
>>>>> Drivers for some hardware are non-existent..
>>>>
>>>> So you've downloaded, installed, and have evaluated the latest LTS
>>>> version of Ubuntu already?
>>>>
>>>> Ubuntu 8.04 was just released this morning.
>>>>
>>>> It would be like me reviewing Vista, based on only using XP.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Kurt
>>>
>>> The OP didn't mention any version number.
>>
>> Little hung over this morning? How could anyone that reads this group
>> regularly not know that Ubuntu 8.04 came out today? :)
>>
>>> Ubuntu has been available for
>>> a while.. :-)
>>
>> Oh, then that 5 program deal was just BS, right? Because there are a
>> hell of a lot more useful programs than that in any Linux distro.
>>
>> And yes there is a learning curve, but then again, there is a learning
>> curve moving to Vista from XP.
>>
>> I'm downloading 8.04 64bit right now. I'll be trying out the LiveCD as
>> soon as I'm able to burn the iso.
>>
> Who's going to do it for you nitwit?

Brasero.

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"Canuck57" <dave-no_spam@unixhome.net> wrote in message
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>
> "Mike Hall - MVP" <mikehall@remove_mvps.com> wrote in message
> news:%23R$8JRipIHA.3900@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> "Canuck57" <dave-no_spam@unixhome.net> wrote in message
>> news:kT0Qj.88341$rd2.76515@pd7urf3no...
>>>
>>> "Mike Hall - MVP" <mikehall@remove_mvps.com> wrote in message
>>> news:uvZwGZgpIHA.5096@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>> "Sonny" <sonny@nospam.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:OZVeC7fpIHA.4736@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>>> Is this any good? Anyone tried it?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> If you don't have the funds for a Windows OS, Ubuntu will get your
>>>> computer up and running.
>>>>
>>>> There is a learning curve. If you are used to using Windows, quite a
>>>> sharp one..
>>>
>>> How so? No regedit to learn for sure.
>>>
>>> Menus are much cleaner and better organized, that can't be it.
>>>
>>> OpenOffice installs right off with the OS and no license keys putzing,
>>> that can't be it.
>>>
>>> Can't be versions, Ubuntu is one full destop version, lost count of
>>> Vista version with missing features.
>>>
>>> Additional software can be had with Ubuntu and it does not ask for the
>>> credit card like Vista, so that can't be it.
>>>
>>> Buttons are in the same place as XP, but Vista moved them around, so
>>> that can't be it.
>>>
>>> Hm...I can't see why Ubuntu is harder to use. Learning curve for a XP
>>> user shouldn't be that much at all.
>>
>> Keep guessing. I will tell you when you are 'warm'.. :-)
>
> Out of ideas. You will have to tell us what items that make Ubuntu hard
> to install. Certainly faster than Vista.
>


I didn't mention 'installing'..

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On Thu, 24 Apr 2008 16:05:03 -0400, Mike Hall - MVP wrote:

> "Canuck57" <dave-no_spam@unixhome.net> wrote in message
> news:%25Qj.89130$rd2.61297@pd7urf3no...
>>
>> "Mike Hall - MVP" <mikehall@remove_mvps.com> wrote in message
>> news:%23R$8JRipIHA.3900@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>> "Canuck57" <dave-no_spam@unixhome.net> wrote in message
>>> news:kT0Qj.88341$rd2.76515@pd7urf3no...
>>>>
>>>> "Mike Hall - MVP" <mikehall@remove_mvps.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:uvZwGZgpIHA.5096@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>>> "Sonny" <sonny@nospam.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:OZVeC7fpIHA.4736@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>>>> Is this any good? Anyone tried it?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> If you don't have the funds for a Windows OS, Ubuntu will get your
>>>>> computer up and running.
>>>>>
>>>>> There is a learning curve. If you are used to using Windows, quite a
>>>>> sharp one..
>>>>
>>>> How so? No regedit to learn for sure.
>>>>
>>>> Menus are much cleaner and better organized, that can't be it.
>>>>
>>>> OpenOffice installs right off with the OS and no license keys
>>>> putzing, that can't be it.
>>>>
>>>> Can't be versions, Ubuntu is one full destop version, lost count of
>>>> Vista version with missing features.
>>>>
>>>> Additional software can be had with Ubuntu and it does not ask for
>>>> the credit card like Vista, so that can't be it.
>>>>
>>>> Buttons are in the same place as XP, but Vista moved them around, so
>>>> that can't be it.
>>>>
>>>> Hm...I can't see why Ubuntu is harder to use. Learning curve for a
>>>> XP user shouldn't be that much at all.
>>>
>>> Keep guessing. I will tell you when you are 'warm'.. :-)
>>
>> Out of ideas. You will have to tell us what items that make Ubuntu
>> hard to install. Certainly faster than Vista.
>>
>>
>
> I didn't mention 'installing'..

So was it using? Ubuntu is easy. Even has the glass on the non-hight-
lighted windows. Glass done right.

Unbuntu is easy. In less than 20 minutes, have a News Reader running,
pan, reminds me of Forte Agent or something. Neat, Frank can meet the
kill file. I think you can even get a MS-Windows version. I don't think
Vista mail has kill files does it?
 
Canuck57, the loser wrote:

-----------------------------------------------

What a bitter, hateful, lying POS you are.
Frank
 
The disc makes a darn good coaster!
Other than that...not worth the time
or massive effort required to install
and use it.

Windows Vista is lights years ahead!

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Microsoft MVP
Windows Desktop Experience -
Windows System & Performance

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"Sonny" wrote:

Is this any good? Anyone tried it?
 
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