System Volume Information

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Charliec

On each of my drives, I now have a folder titled "System Volume
Information" - it was never there before and I am not sure what
created it. It is a restricted folder and I cannot access it. I am
the Admin. on my computer.

Anyone know what this folder is and how it was created? Maybe it was
there all along, but hidden, but now it's not. (It's listed as
"drive:\system volume information") among all other folders on the
drives.

Thanks for any tips.

Charliec
******************************************************
Charliec
 
It is used by System Restore. If you don't want it for the other drives,
go into System Restore and de-select *the other drives*, but not the system
drive (normally C:).
(Control Panel, System, System Restore, Settings.

But do NOT disable it for your system drive (normally C:)!

Charliec wrote:
> On each of my drives, I now have a folder titled "System Volume
> Information" - it was never there before and I am not sure what
> created it. It is a restricted folder and I cannot access it. I am
> the Admin. on my computer.
>
> Anyone know what this folder is and how it was created? Maybe it was
> there all along, but hidden, but now it's not. (It's listed as
> "drive:\system volume information") among all other folders on the
> drives.
>
> Thanks for any tips.
>
> Charliec
> ******************************************************
> Charliec
 
Charliec wrote:
> On each of my drives, I now have a folder titled "System Volume
> Information" - it was never there before and I am not sure what
> created it. It is a restricted folder and I cannot access it. I am
> the Admin. on my computer.
>
> Anyone know what this folder is and how it was created? Maybe it was
> there all along, but hidden, but now it's not. (It's listed as
> "drive:\system volume information") among all other folders on the
> drives.
>
> Thanks for any tips.
>
> Charliec
> ******************************************************
> Charliec


The System Volume Information is the folder in which WinXP's System
Restore feature stores information used to recover from errors. By
default, WinXP sets aside a maximum of 12% of the partition's size for
storing System Volume Information, but the amount of space set aside for
this purpose can be adjusted by the user. Start > All Programs >
Accessories > System Tools > System Restore > System Restore Settings,
select the pertinent partition and click Settings.

If you don't want to use System Restore, simply turn off the System
Restore feature (Start > All Programs > Accessories > System Tools >
System Restore, System Restore Settings) and reboot. This will, of
course, delete all of your previously saved Restore Points.


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Bruce Chambers wrote:
> Charliec wrote:
>> On each of my drives, I now have a folder titled "System Volume
>> Information" - it was never there before and I am not sure what
>> created it. It is a restricted folder and I cannot access it. I am
>> the Admin. on my computer.
>>
>> Anyone know what this folder is and how it was created? Maybe it was
>> there all along, but hidden, but now it's not. (It's listed as
>> "drive:\system volume information") among all other folders on the
>> drives.
>>
>> Thanks for any tips.
>>
>> Charliec
>> ******************************************************
>> Charliec
>
>
> The System Volume Information is the folder in which WinXP's System
> Restore feature stores information used to recover from errors. By
> default, WinXP sets aside a maximum of 12% of the partition's size for
> storing System Volume Information, but the amount of space set aside for
> this purpose can be adjusted by the user. Start > All Programs >
> Accessories > System Tools > System Restore > System Restore Settings,
> select the pertinent partition and click Settings.
>
> If you don't want to use System Restore, simply turn off the System
> Restore feature (Start > All Programs > Accessories > System Tools >
> System Restore, System Restore Settings) and reboot. This will, of
> course, delete all of your previously saved Restore Points.

But THAT is a dumb recommendation (to completely turn off System Restore).
(Frankly, I'm surprised you would even suggest or imply it!).
But for the OTHER drives, sure but NOT for the system drive (nominally
C:).
As I said....

> --
>
> Bruce Chambers
>
> Help us help you:
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>
> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/kb/555375
>
> They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
> safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. ~Benjamin Franklin
>
> Many people would rather die than think in fact, most do. ~Bertrand
> Russell
>
> The philosopher has never killed any priests, whereas the priest has
> killed a great many philosophers.
> ~ Denis Diderot
 
"Charliec" <charliec@invalid.address.com> wrote in message
news:op0c449brq9u8b0f5kgj628nrcp49qtm14@4ax.com...
> On each of my drives, I now have a folder titled "System Volume
> Information" - it was never there before and I am not sure what
> created it. It is a restricted folder and I cannot access it. I am
> the Admin. on my computer.
>
> Anyone know what this folder is and how it was created? Maybe it was
> there all along, but hidden, but now it's not. (It's listed as
> "drive:\system volume information") among all other folders on the
> drives.
>
> Thanks for any tips.
>
> Charliec
> ******************************************************
> Charliec

As Bruce and Bill stated, that's part where the system restore information
is kept. Its contains an open file until the PC is shutdown regarding XP.
That's why you can't have access to it by default.

If you trust system restore in the event of a problem to "fix" your PC,
leave system restore on. Bear in mind there are things that system restore
simply cannot fix.

If you have an imaging program that you use frequently, and are sure you can
recover using that, turn off system restore completely.

You can use both as an alternative.

System restore DOES NOTHING regarding any non-windows partition regarding
repair operations.
--
Dave
 
Bill in Co. wrote:
> Bruce Chambers wrote:
>> Charliec wrote:
>>> On each of my drives, I now have a folder titled "System Volume
>>> Information" - it was never there before and I am not sure what
>>> created it. It is a restricted folder and I cannot access it. I am
>>> the Admin. on my computer.
>>>
>>> Anyone know what this folder is and how it was created? Maybe it
>>> was there all along, but hidden, but now it's not. (It's listed as
>>> "drive:\system volume information") among all other folders on the
>>> drives.
>>>
>>> Thanks for any tips.
>>>
>>> Charliec
>>> ******************************************************
>>> Charliec
>>
>>
>> The System Volume Information is the folder in which WinXP's
>> System Restore feature stores information used to recover from
>> errors. By default, WinXP sets aside a maximum of 12% of the
>> partition's size for storing System Volume Information, but the
>> amount of space set aside for this purpose can be adjusted by the
>> user. Start > All Programs > Accessories > System Tools > System
>> Restore > System Restore Settings, select the pertinent partition
>> and click Settings. If you don't want to use System Restore, simply turn
>> off the System
>> Restore feature (Start > All Programs > Accessories > System Tools >
>> System Restore, System Restore Settings) and reboot. This will, of
>> course, delete all of your previously saved Restore Points.
>
> But THAT is a dumb recommendation (to completely turn off System
> Restore). (Frankly, I'm surprised you would even suggest or imply
> it!). But for the OTHER drives, sure but NOT for the system drive
> (nominally C:).

I can't think of any reason *not* to turn off System Restore if one is
managing things one's self by imaging/copying and maintaining registry
backups. Pretty silly to keep it in that situation. IMO, YMMV.

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Hi Lil' Dave,

But if someone DOES want to have access to the System Volume directory at
any time, they can do so by following the instructions in the KB article
entitled "How to gain access to the System Volume Information folder,"
found at http://support.microsoft.com/kb/309531/en-us

Alan

"Lil' Dave" <spamyourself@virus.net> wrote in message
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> "Charliec" <charliec@invalid.address.com> wrote in message
> news:op0c449brq9u8b0f5kgj628nrcp49qtm14@4ax.com...
>> On each of my drives, I now have a folder titled "System Volume
>> Information" - it was never there before and I am not sure what
>> created it. It is a restricted folder and I cannot access it. I am
>> the Admin. on my computer.
>>
>> Anyone know what this folder is and how it was created? Maybe it was
>> there all along, but hidden, but now it's not. (It's listed as
>> "drive:\system volume information") among all other folders on the
>> drives.
>>
>> Thanks for any tips.
>>
>> Charliec
>> ******************************************************
>> Charliec
>
> As Bruce and Bill stated, that's part where the system restore information
> is kept. Its contains an open file until the PC is shutdown regarding XP.
> That's why you can't have access to it by default.
>
> If you trust system restore in the event of a problem to "fix" your PC,
> leave system restore on. Bear in mind there are things that system
> restore simply cannot fix.
>
> If you have an imaging program that you use frequently, and are sure you
> can recover using that, turn off system restore completely.
>
> You can use both as an alternative.
>
> System restore DOES NOTHING regarding any non-windows partition regarding
> repair operations.
> --
> Dave
>
 
Ok, I will give that a try.
Thanks

>On Tue, 3 Jun 2008 21:39:57 -0600, "Bill in Co." <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote:

>It is used by System Restore. If you don't want it for the other drives,
>go into System Restore and de-select *the other drives*, but not the system
>drive (normally C:).
>(Control Panel, System, System Restore, Settings.
>
>But do NOT disable it for your system drive (normally C:)!
>
>Charliec wrote:
>> On each of my drives, I now have a folder titled "System Volume
>> Information" - it was never there before and I am not sure what
>> created it. It is a restricted folder and I cannot access it. I am
>> the Admin. on my computer.
>>
>> Anyone know what this folder is and how it was created? Maybe it was
>> there all along, but hidden, but now it's not. (It's listed as
>> "drive:\system volume information") among all other folders on the
>> drives.
>>
>> Thanks for any tips.
>>
>> Charliec
>> ******************************************************
>> Charliec
>
******************************************************
Charliec
 
Ok, I turned off the System Restore on the D, E & F drives. Restarted
the system and checked the drives for the System Volume Information
folder. It is still there, but empty. I thought the folder would go
away when you turned the option off. Is there a way to remove it from
these drives?

Thanks

>On Wed, 04 Jun 2008 11:07:13 -0700, Charliec <charliec@invalid.address.com> wrote:

>Ok, I will give that a try.
>Thanks
>
>>On Tue, 3 Jun 2008 21:39:57 -0600, "Bill in Co." <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>>It is used by System Restore. If you don't want it for the other drives,
>>go into System Restore and de-select *the other drives*, but not the system
>>drive (normally C:).
>>(Control Panel, System, System Restore, Settings.
>>
>>But do NOT disable it for your system drive (normally C:)!
>>
>>Charliec wrote:
>>> On each of my drives, I now have a folder titled "System Volume
>>> Information" - it was never there before and I am not sure what
>>> created it. It is a restricted folder and I cannot access it. I am
>>> the Admin. on my computer.
>>>
>>> Anyone know what this folder is and how it was created? Maybe it was
>>> there all along, but hidden, but now it's not. (It's listed as
>>> "drive:\system volume information") among all other folders on the
>>> drives.
>>>
>>> Thanks for any tips.
>>>
>>> Charliec
>>> ******************************************************
>>> Charliec
>>
>******************************************************
>Charliec
******************************************************
Charliec
 
Sure, just delete the folders in windows explorer.

Charliec wrote:
> Ok, I turned off the System Restore on the D, E & F drives. Restarted
> the system and checked the drives for the System Volume Information
> folder. It is still there, but empty. I thought the folder would go
> away when you turned the option off. Is there a way to remove it from
> these drives?
>
> Thanks
>
>> On Wed, 04 Jun 2008 11:07:13 -0700, Charliec
>> <charliec@invalid.address.com>
>> wrote:
>
>> Ok, I will give that a try.
>> Thanks
>>
>>> On Tue, 3 Jun 2008 21:39:57 -0600, "Bill in Co."
>>> <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote:
>>
>>> It is used by System Restore. If you don't want it for the other
>>> drives,
>>> go into System Restore and de-select *the other drives*, but not the
>>> system
>>> drive (normally C:).
>>> (Control Panel, System, System Restore, Settings.
>>>
>>> But do NOT disable it for your system drive (normally C:)!
>>>
>>> Charliec wrote:
>>>> On each of my drives, I now have a folder titled "System Volume
>>>> Information" - it was never there before and I am not sure what
>>>> created it. It is a restricted folder and I cannot access it. I am
>>>> the Admin. on my computer.
>>>>
>>>> Anyone know what this folder is and how it was created? Maybe it was
>>>> there all along, but hidden, but now it's not. (It's listed as
>>>> "drive:\system volume information") among all other folders on the
>>>> drives.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for any tips.
>>>>
>>>> Charliec
>>>> ******************************************************
>>>> Charliec
>>>
>> ******************************************************
>> Charliec
> ******************************************************
> Charliec
 
dadiOH wrote:
> Bill in Co. wrote:
>> Bruce Chambers wrote:
>>> Charliec wrote:
>>>> On each of my drives, I now have a folder titled "System Volume
>>>> Information" - it was never there before and I am not sure what
>>>> created it. It is a restricted folder and I cannot access it. I am
>>>> the Admin. on my computer.
>>>>
>>>> Anyone know what this folder is and how it was created? Maybe it
>>>> was there all along, but hidden, but now it's not. (It's listed as
>>>> "drive:\system volume information") among all other folders on the
>>>> drives.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for any tips.
>>>>
>>>> Charliec
>>>> ******************************************************
>>>> Charliec
>>>
>>>
>>> The System Volume Information is the folder in which WinXP's
>>> System Restore feature stores information used to recover from
>>> errors. By default, WinXP sets aside a maximum of 12% of the
>>> partition's size for storing System Volume Information, but the
>>> amount of space set aside for this purpose can be adjusted by the
>>> user. Start > All Programs > Accessories > System Tools > System
>>> Restore > System Restore Settings, select the pertinent partition
>>> and click Settings. If you don't want to use System Restore, simply turn
>>> off the System
>>> Restore feature (Start > All Programs > Accessories > System Tools >
>>> System Restore, System Restore Settings) and reboot. This will, of
>>> course, delete all of your previously saved Restore Points.
>>
>> But THAT is a dumb recommendation (to completely turn off System
>> Restore). (Frankly, I'm surprised you would even suggest or imply
>> it!). But for the OTHER drives, sure but NOT for the system drive
>> (nominally C:).
>
> I can't think of any reason *not* to turn off System Restore if one is
> managing things one's self by imaging/copying and maintaining registry
> backups. Pretty silly to keep it in that situation. IMO, YMMV.

It's called using the right tool for the right job. (Sometimes restoring
an image backup is just overkill, and unnecessary). That's why I have
(and have used) three different tools for different occasions: ERUNT,
System Restore, and Backup Image Restoration. Each has it's place.

Granted, if you only could have one, the image backup would be all
encompassing. But it's kinda like using a sledge hammer to pound a nail,
in some instances.
 
"Bill in Co." <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote:

>> managing things one's self by imaging/copying and maintaining registry
>> backups. Pretty silly to keep it in that situation. IMO, YMMV.
>
>It's called using the right tool for the right job.

Yeah! Like using an outdated anti-virus program without any updates
to protect yourself against virus infestation.
 
Bill,

I tried deleting the folder and received the following message:

Cannot delete System volume Information: Access Denied
Make sure the disk is not full or write-protected and that the file is
not currently in use.

I double checked System Restore and the restore for those drives is
off. I checked Properties for the folder and it was set to read only,
so I unchecked it, same error message, and rechecking Properties for
the folder, read only was rechecked.

In MyComputer, I checked Folder Options and I have "Show Hidden Files
and Folders" checked. Maybe unchecking that would remove that folder
from showing (and others that I see on each drive such as
vProRecovery, Recycler, $Recycle.bin) - the Icon for each folder is
"greyed" out. They would poobably still be there, but not showing.

I will try unclecking "Show Hidden Files and Folders" and see what
happen. If you have other suggestions, let me know.

Thanks for your assistance.

Charliec

> On Wed, 4 Jun 2008 14:05:31 -0600, "Bill in Co." <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote:

>Sure, just delete the folders in windows explorer.
>
>Charliec wrote:
>> Ok, I turned off the System Restore on the D, E & F drives. Restarted
>> the system and checked the drives for the System Volume Information
>> folder. It is still there, but empty. I thought the folder would go
>> away when you turned the option off. Is there a way to remove it from
>> these drives?
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>>> On Wed, 04 Jun 2008 11:07:13 -0700, Charliec
>>> <charliec@invalid.address.com>
>>> wrote:
>>
>>> Ok, I will give that a try.
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>>> On Tue, 3 Jun 2008 21:39:57 -0600, "Bill in Co."
>>>> <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> It is used by System Restore. If you don't want it for the other
>>>> drives,
>>>> go into System Restore and de-select *the other drives*, but not the
>>>> system
>>>> drive (normally C:).
>>>> (Control Panel, System, System Restore, Settings.
>>>>
>>>> But do NOT disable it for your system drive (normally C:)!
>>>>
>>>> Charliec wrote:
>>>>> On each of my drives, I now have a folder titled "System Volume
>>>>> Information" - it was never there before and I am not sure what
>>>>> created it. It is a restricted folder and I cannot access it. I am
>>>>> the Admin. on my computer.
>>>>>
>>>>> Anyone know what this folder is and how it was created? Maybe it was
>>>>> there all along, but hidden, but now it's not. (It's listed as
>>>>> "drive:\system volume information") among all other folders on the
>>>>> drives.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for any tips.
>>>>>
>>>>> Charliec
>>>>> ******************************************************
>>>>> Charliec
>>>>
>>> ******************************************************
>>> Charliec
>> ******************************************************
>> Charliec
>
******************************************************
Charliec
 
Of course I expect that if you ever want to use backup software that
uses Volume Shadow Copy that you will be back here posting that the
software doesn't work and after 64 different replies from 54 different
poster you will finally let one of them know that you have no SVI folder.

John

Charliec wrote:

> Bill,
>
> I tried deleting the folder and received the following message:
>
> Cannot delete System volume Information: Access Denied
> Make sure the disk is not full or write-protected and that the file is
> not currently in use.
>
> I double checked System Restore and the restore for those drives is
> off. I checked Properties for the folder and it was set to read only,
> so I unchecked it, same error message, and rechecking Properties for
> the folder, read only was rechecked.
>
> In MyComputer, I checked Folder Options and I have "Show Hidden Files
> and Folders" checked. Maybe unchecking that would remove that folder
> from showing (and others that I see on each drive such as
> vProRecovery, Recycler, $Recycle.bin) - the Icon for each folder is
> "greyed" out. They would poobably still be there, but not showing.
>
> I will try unclecking "Show Hidden Files and Folders" and see what
> happen. If you have other suggestions, let me know.
>
> Thanks for your assistance.
>
> Charliec
>
>
>>On Wed, 4 Jun 2008 14:05:31 -0600, "Bill in Co." <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>
>>Sure, just delete the folders in windows explorer.
>>
>>Charliec wrote:
>>
>>>Ok, I turned off the System Restore on the D, E & F drives. Restarted
>>>the system and checked the drives for the System Volume Information
>>>folder. It is still there, but empty. I thought the folder would go
>>>away when you turned the option off. Is there a way to remove it from
>>>these drives?
>>>
>>>Thanks
>>>
>>>
>>>>On Wed, 04 Jun 2008 11:07:13 -0700, Charliec
>>>><charliec@invalid.address.com>
>>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>>Ok, I will give that a try.
>>>>Thanks
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>On Tue, 3 Jun 2008 21:39:57 -0600, "Bill in Co."
>>>>><not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>It is used by System Restore. If you don't want it for the other
>>>>>drives,
>>>>>go into System Restore and de-select *the other drives*, but not the
>>>>>system
>>>>>drive (normally C:).
>>>>>(Control Panel, System, System Restore, Settings.
>>>>>
>>>>>But do NOT disable it for your system drive (normally C:)!
>>>>>
>>>>>Charliec wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On each of my drives, I now have a folder titled "System Volume
>>>>>>Information" - it was never there before and I am not sure what
>>>>>>created it. It is a restricted folder and I cannot access it. I am
>>>>>>the Admin. on my computer.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Anyone know what this folder is and how it was created? Maybe it was
>>>>>>there all along, but hidden, but now it's not. (It's listed as
>>>>>>"drive:\system volume information") among all other folders on the
>>>>>>drives.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Thanks for any tips.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Charliec
>>>>>>******************************************************
>>>>>>Charliec
>>>>>
>>>>******************************************************
>>>>Charliec
>>>
>>>******************************************************
>>>Charliec
>>
> ******************************************************
> Charliec
 
Soooo! What is your recommendation/suggestion - if you have one?

>On Wed, 04 Jun 2008 20:36:53 -0300, "John John (MVP)" <audetweld@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote:

>Of course I expect that if you ever want to use backup software that
>uses Volume Shadow Copy that you will be back here posting that the
>software doesn't work and after 64 different replies from 54 different
>poster you will finally let one of them know that you have no SVI folder.
>
>John
>
>Charliec wrote:
>
>> Bill,
>>
>> I tried deleting the folder and received the following message:
>>
>> Cannot delete System volume Information: Access Denied
>> Make sure the disk is not full or write-protected and that the file is
>> not currently in use.
>>
>> I double checked System Restore and the restore for those drives is
>> off. I checked Properties for the folder and it was set to read only,
>> so I unchecked it, same error message, and rechecking Properties for
>> the folder, read only was rechecked.
>>
>> In MyComputer, I checked Folder Options and I have "Show Hidden Files
>> and Folders" checked. Maybe unchecking that would remove that folder
>> from showing (and others that I see on each drive such as
>> vProRecovery, Recycler, $Recycle.bin) - the Icon for each folder is
>> "greyed" out. They would poobably still be there, but not showing.
>>
>> I will try unclecking "Show Hidden Files and Folders" and see what
>> happen. If you have other suggestions, let me know.
>>
>> Thanks for your assistance.
>>
>> Charliec
>>
>>
>>>On Wed, 4 Jun 2008 14:05:31 -0600, "Bill in Co." <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Sure, just delete the folders in windows explorer.
>>>
>>>Charliec wrote:
>>>
>>>>Ok, I turned off the System Restore on the D, E & F drives. Restarted
>>>>the system and checked the drives for the System Volume Information
>>>>folder. It is still there, but empty. I thought the folder would go
>>>>away when you turned the option off. Is there a way to remove it from
>>>>these drives?
>>>>
>>>>Thanks
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>On Wed, 04 Jun 2008 11:07:13 -0700, Charliec
>>>>><charliec@invalid.address.com>
>>>>>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Ok, I will give that a try.
>>>>>Thanks
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>On Tue, 3 Jun 2008 21:39:57 -0600, "Bill in Co."
>>>>>><not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>It is used by System Restore. If you don't want it for the other
>>>>>>drives,
>>>>>>go into System Restore and de-select *the other drives*, but not the
>>>>>>system
>>>>>>drive (normally C:).
>>>>>>(Control Panel, System, System Restore, Settings.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>But do NOT disable it for your system drive (normally C:)!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Charliec wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>On each of my drives, I now have a folder titled "System Volume
>>>>>>>Information" - it was never there before and I am not sure what
>>>>>>>created it. It is a restricted folder and I cannot access it. I am
>>>>>>>the Admin. on my computer.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Anyone know what this folder is and how it was created? Maybe it was
>>>>>>>there all along, but hidden, but now it's not. (It's listed as
>>>>>>>"drive:\system volume information") among all other folders on the
>>>>>>>drives.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Thanks for any tips.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Charliec
>>>>>>>******************************************************
>>>>>>>Charliec
>>>>>>
>>>>>******************************************************
>>>>>Charliec
>>>>
>>>>******************************************************
>>>>Charliec
>>>
>> ******************************************************
>> Charliec
******************************************************
Charliec
 
Bill in Co. wrote:
>
>
> But THAT is a dumb recommendation (to completely turn off System Restore).


Try working on your reading comprehension. At no time did I
"recommend" turning off System Restore. I merely mentioned that it
could be done, if so desired.


> (Frankly, I'm surprised you would even suggest or imply it!).


Again, I did neither. But why are you so alarmed that I actually
provided the OP with an education?


> But for the OTHER drives, sure but NOT for the system drive (nominally
> C:).


Given System Restore's very limited utility, and the general user's
complete misunderstanding of its purpose, I don't see why one shouldn't
feel free to disable it, provided other - and almost certainly superior
- recovery methods are available. But that's for to each individual
user to decide.


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dadiOH wrote:
>
>
> I can't think of any reason *not* to turn off System Restore if one is
> managing things one's self by imaging/copying and maintaining registry
> backups. Pretty silly to keep it in that situation. IMO, YMMV.
>


Precisely.


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Bruce Chambers wrote:
> Bill in Co. wrote:
>>
>> But THAT is a dumb recommendation (to completely turn off System
>> Restore).
>
> Try working on your reading comprehension. At no time did I
> "recommend" turning off System Restore. I merely mentioned that it
> could be done, if so desired.

Sorry, I thought you had talked about turning it all off.

>> (Frankly, I'm surprised you would even suggest or imply it!).
>
> Again, I did neither. But why are you so alarmed that I actually
> provided the OP with an education?

Need to be careful on the education, however (more below).

>> But for the OTHER drives, sure but NOT for the system drive (nominally
>> C:).
>
> Given System Restore's very limited utility, and the general user's

I don't consider it "very limited". But I do consider it "limited". And
there is a difference.

> complete misunderstanding of its purpose, I don't see why one shouldn't
> feel free to disable it, provided other - and almost certainly superior
> - recovery methods are available. But that's for to each individual
> user to decide.

Right, but to encourage (or indirectly imply) it might be a good idea, I
think, is a bit irresponsible. More especially if he has no other
backups - but EVEN if he does. And even more especially to a newbie (the
idea of not having any System Restore)

Like most things, it's a tool, and using the appropriate tool for the
appropriate job is the wisest approach. (IMO).
 
PD43 wrote:
> "Bill in Co." <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>>> managing things one's self by imaging/copying and maintaining registry
>>> backups. Pretty silly to keep it in that situation. IMO, YMMV.
>>
>> It's called using the right tool for the right job.
>
> Yeah! Like using an outdated anti-virus program without any updates
> to protect yourself against virus infestation.

Uh huh. WHAT virus infestation????
Funny, haven't seen too many over here, in all the years I've been online -
and trust me, that's a bunch. Don't believe me?? Go look in the Win98
group, and maybe even the Win95 group (I can't recall for sure on that one).
And some BBS's (pre Internet as we now know it)
 
I seem to recall an article on this. Let me see..
Ahhh yes: Article #309531, at the Microsoft Web Site, entitled:
"How to gain access to th System Volume Information folder."
Search for it.


Charliec wrote:
> Bill,
>
> I tried deleting the folder and received the following message:
>
> Cannot delete System volume Information: Access Denied
> Make sure the disk is not full or write-protected and that the file is
> not currently in use.
>
> I double checked System Restore and the restore for those drives is
> off. I checked Properties for the folder and it was set to read only,
> so I unchecked it, same error message, and rechecking Properties for
> the folder, read only was rechecked.
>
> In MyComputer, I checked Folder Options and I have "Show Hidden Files
> and Folders" checked. Maybe unchecking that would remove that folder
> from showing (and others that I see on each drive such as
> vProRecovery, Recycler, $Recycle.bin) - the Icon for each folder is
> "greyed" out. They would poobably still be there, but not showing.
>
> I will try unclecking "Show Hidden Files and Folders" and see what
> happen. If you have other suggestions, let me know.
>
> Thanks for your assistance.
>
> Charliec
>
>> On Wed, 4 Jun 2008 14:05:31 -0600, "Bill in Co."
>> <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>> Sure, just delete the folders in windows explorer.
>>
>> Charliec wrote:
>>> Ok, I turned off the System Restore on the D, E & F drives. Restarted
>>> the system and checked the drives for the System Volume Information
>>> folder. It is still there, but empty. I thought the folder would go
>>> away when you turned the option off. Is there a way to remove it from
>>> these drives?
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>>> On Wed, 04 Jun 2008 11:07:13 -0700, Charliec
>>>> <charliec@invalid.address.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Ok, I will give that a try.
>>>> Thanks
>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, 3 Jun 2008 21:39:57 -0600, "Bill in Co."
>>>>> <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> It is used by System Restore. If you don't want it for the other
>>>>> drives,
>>>>> go into System Restore and de-select *the other drives*, but not the
>>>>> system
>>>>> drive (normally C:).
>>>>> (Control Panel, System, System Restore, Settings.
>>>>>
>>>>> But do NOT disable it for your system drive (normally C:)!
>>>>>
>>>>> Charliec wrote:
>>>>>> On each of my drives, I now have a folder titled "System Volume
>>>>>> Information" - it was never there before and I am not sure what
>>>>>> created it. It is a restricted folder and I cannot access it. I am
>>>>>> the Admin. on my computer.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Anyone know what this folder is and how it was created? Maybe it was
>>>>>> there all along, but hidden, but now it's not. (It's listed as
>>>>>> "drive:\system volume information") among all other folders on the
>>>>>> drives.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks for any tips.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Charliec
>>>>>> ******************************************************
>>>>>> Charliec
>>>>>
>>>> ******************************************************
>>>> Charliec
>>> ******************************************************
>>> Charliec
>>
> ******************************************************
> Charliec
 
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