Sun Java what's the use?

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SliqM wrote:
> I am working with windowsXP SP2 pro and IE7. It works okay for me
> but what is the advantage to install Sun's Java JRE?

Are you asking *beyond* the obvious?
(To be able to access/utilize web sites/utilities/etc that utilize it?)

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I never had a problem accessing websites. No, it's a serious question. I
have install it today and I see no difference. I suppose IE7 has Java
onboard or it that a lesser capability product.

"Shenan Stanley" <newshelper@gmail.com> schreef in bericht
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> SliqM wrote:
>> I am working with windowsXP SP2 pro and IE7. It works okay for me
>> but what is the advantage to install Sun's Java JRE?
>
> Are you asking *beyond* the obvious?
> (To be able to access/utilize web sites/utilities/etc that utilize it?)
>
> --
> Shenan Stanley
> MS-MVP
> --
> How To Ask Questions The Smart Way
> http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
>


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Some sites require java for certain elements, including game sites.
IE7 doesn't have java onboard...Sun Java would be installed and then IE7
would use it.

"SliqM" <poorboy321#OnlyFirstTenCharacters@Hotmail.com> wrote in message
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|I never had a problem accessing websites. No, it's a serious question. I
| have install it today and I see no difference. I suppose IE7 has Java
| onboard or it that a lesser capability product.
|
| "Shenan Stanley" <newshelper@gmail.com> schreef in bericht
| news:eOL4a0ouHHA.3368@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
| > SliqM wrote:
| >> I am working with windowsXP SP2 pro and IE7. It works okay for me
| >> but what is the advantage to install Sun's Java JRE?
| >
| > Are you asking *beyond* the obvious?
| > (To be able to access/utilize web sites/utilities/etc that utilize it?)
| >
| > --
| > Shenan Stanley
| > MS-MVP
| > --
| > How To Ask Questions The Smart Way
| > http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
| >
|
|
| --
| Posted by news://news.nb.nu (http://www.nb.nu)
 
I for one had just read that link a few nights ago--the whole thing. But
I'll be the first to admit I'm a little odd! ;-)

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"TOAO" <theoneandonly@lalaland.com> wrote in message
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| Shenan , How many people do you believe will read that or all that ?
|
|
|
| > Shenan Stanley
| > MS-MVP
| > --
| > How To Ask Questions The Smart Way
| > http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
|
|
 
I'll second that <w>

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Curt Christianson wrote:

> I for one had just read that link a few nights ago--the whole thing. But
> I'll be the first to admit I'm a little odd! ;-)
>
 
Shenan wrote (as part of the signature):
> How To Ask Questions The Smart Way
> http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

TOAO wrote:
> Shenan , How many people do you believe will read that or all that ?

*shrug*
No idea.

I had nothing to do with writing it. I am just providing a link to it.

As for reading the whole thing - most people posting in the newsgroups for
the first (some for the thousandth) time would benefit from the
'Introduction' and 'Before you Ask' sections alone... ;-)

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Thanks.

"Tom Willett" <tompepper@mvps.invalid> schreef in bericht
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> Some sites require java for certain elements, including game sites.
> IE7 doesn't have java onboard...Sun Java would be installed and then IE7
> would use it.
>
> "SliqM" <poorboy321#OnlyFirstTenCharacters@Hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:4685747c@news.nb.nu...
> |I never had a problem accessing websites. No, it's a serious question. I
> | have install it today and I see no difference. I suppose IE7 has Java
> | onboard or it that a lesser capability product.
> |
> | "Shenan Stanley" <newshelper@gmail.com> schreef in bericht
> | news:eOL4a0ouHHA.3368@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> | > SliqM wrote:
> | >> I am working with windowsXP SP2 pro and IE7. It works okay for me
> | >> but what is the advantage to install Sun's Java JRE?
> | >
> | > Are you asking *beyond* the obvious?
> | > (To be able to access/utilize web sites/utilities/etc that utilize
> it?)
> | >
> | > --
> | > Shenan Stanley
> | > MS-MVP
> | > --
> | > How To Ask Questions The Smart Way
> | > http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
> | >
> |
> |
> | --
> | Posted by news://news.nb.nu (http://www.nb.nu)
>
>


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Hark who's talking <vbg>
Joan


MowGreen [MVP] wrote:
> I'll second that <w>
>
> MowGreen [MVP 2003-2007]
> ===============
> *-343-* FDNY
> Never Forgotten
> ===============
>
> Curt Christianson wrote:
>
>> I for one had just read that link a few nights ago--the whole thing.
>> But I'll be the first to admit I'm a little odd! ;-)
 
it's probably for the thousands of programs that rely on it.


"SliqM" <poorboy321#OnlyFirstTenCharacters@Hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Hello,
>
> I am working with windowsXP SP2 pro and IE7. It works okay for me but what
> is the advantage to install Sun's Java JRE?
>
> TIA
 
I don't have it installed.
I installed years ago, but
couldn't find any consumer help or explanation on Sun.
Only information I found was for developers or from other sites about security
flaws.
So uninstalled and will never reinstall. If I ever need it, I will pass for
the application.
I don't play online games that require it. Not much to say for it:
http://java.com/en/download/whatis_java.jsp
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"SliqM" <poorboy321#OnlyFirstTenCharacters@Hotmail.com> wrote in message
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|I never had a problem accessing websites. No, it's a serious question. I
| have install it today and I see no difference. I suppose IE7 has Java
| onboard or it that a lesser capability product.
|
| "Shenan Stanley" <newshelper@gmail.com> schreef in bericht
| news:eOL4a0ouHHA.3368@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
| > SliqM wrote:
| >> I am working with windowsXP SP2 pro and IE7. It works okay for me
| >> but what is the advantage to install Sun's Java JRE?
| >
| > Are you asking *beyond* the obvious?
| > (To be able to access/utilize web sites/utilities/etc that utilize it?)
| >
| > --
| > Shenan Stanley
| > MS-MVP
| > --
| > How To Ask Questions The Smart Way
| > http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
| >
|
|
| --
| Posted by news://news.nb.nu (http://www.nb.nu)
 
"Shenan Stanley" wrote:

> Shenan wrote (as part of the signature):
> > How To Ask Questions The Smart Way
> > http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
>
> TOAO wrote:
> > Shenan , How many people do you believe will read that or all that ?
>
> *shrug*
> No idea.
>
> I had nothing to do with writing it. I am just providing a link to it.
>
> As for reading the whole thing - most people posting in the newsgroups for
> the first (some for the thousandth) time would benefit from the
> 'Introduction' and 'Before you Ask' sections alone... ;-)
>
- and may be it would be appropriate, for the "first - and the thousandth
posters" who haven't time for the long form, to in some way or another be
introduced to - / reminded of the "short form":

http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm

At least being referred to in the "Welcome to Microsoft Discussion Groups",

http://www.microsoft.com/communities/newsgroups/en-us/default.aspx

together with the other links.

Ka2H
 
Curious Mow,

You'll second Shenan's reading, or the fact i'm odd!

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"MowGreen [MVP]" <mowgreen@nowandzen.com> wrote in message
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| I'll second that <w>
|
| MowGreen [MVP 2003-2007]
| ===============
| *-343-* FDNY
| Never Forgotten
| ===============
|
| Curt Christianson wrote:
|
| > I for one had just read that link a few nights ago--the whole thing.
But
| > I'll be the first to admit I'm a little odd! ;-)
| >
 
well, i guess if you DONT KNOW what it is used for, you may never need it.

java programs like Azureus need java installed.

many online applications require Java. for my work, we need Java 1.5 or
later installed (1.6/6.0 update 1 is current at the moment).

dslreports.com has many tools that use Java.

if you wish to write programs that run in Windows, MacOS and Linux - Java
will allow you to write one progam that works in every OS that has a Java
run time.

there are many, MANY reasons to have Java installed.



"mae" <agrannie@notemail.msn.com> wrote in message
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>I don't have it installed.
> I installed years ago, but
> couldn't find any consumer help or explanation on Sun.
> Only information I found was for developers or from other sites about
> security
> flaws.
> So uninstalled and will never reinstall. If I ever need it, I will pass
> for
> the application.
> I don't play online games that require it. Not much to say for it:
> http://java.com/en/download/whatis_java.jsp
> --
> mae
>
> "SliqM" <poorboy321#OnlyFirstTenCharacters@Hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:4685747c@news.nb.nu...
> |I never had a problem accessing websites. No, it's a serious question. I
> | have install it today and I see no difference. I suppose IE7 has Java
> | onboard or it that a lesser capability product.
> |
> | "Shenan Stanley" <newshelper@gmail.com> schreef in bericht
> | news:eOL4a0ouHHA.3368@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> | > SliqM wrote:
> | >> I am working with windowsXP SP2 pro and IE7. It works okay for me
> | >> but what is the advantage to install Sun's Java JRE?
> | >
> | > Are you asking *beyond* the obvious?
> | > (To be able to access/utilize web sites/utilities/etc that utilize
> it?)
> | >
> | > --
> | > Shenan Stanley
> | > MS-MVP
> | > --
> | > How To Ask Questions The Smart Way
> | > http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
> | >
> |
> |
> | --
> | Posted by news://news.nb.nu (http://www.nb.nu)
>
 
<lol> Does he really have to answer that <g>
Joan

Curt Christianson wrote:
> Curious Mow,
>
> You'll second Shenan's reading, or the fact i'm odd!
>
>
> "MowGreen [MVP]" <mowgreen@nowandzen.com> wrote in message
> news:eDIo3vvuHHA.1184@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>| I'll second that <w>
>|
>| MowGreen [MVP 2003-2007]
>| ===============
>| *-343-* FDNY
>| Never Forgotten
>| ===============
>|
>| Curt Christianson wrote:
>|
>| > I for one had just read that link a few nights ago--the whole
>| > thing. But I'll be the first to admit I'm a little odd! ;-)
 
I don't think I want to know, Joan!

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"Joan Archer" <archer_joan@NOSPAM.com> wrote in message
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| <lol> Does he really have to answer that <g>
| Joan
|
| Curt Christianson wrote:
| > Curious Mow,
| >
| > You'll second Shenan's reading, or the fact i'm odd!
| >
| >
| > "MowGreen [MVP]" <mowgreen@nowandzen.com> wrote in message
| > news:eDIo3vvuHHA.1184@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
| >| I'll second that <w>
| >|
| >| MowGreen [MVP 2003-2007]
| >| ===============
| >| *-343-* FDNY
| >| Never Forgotten
| >| ===============
| >|
| >| Curt Christianson wrote:
| >|
| >| > I for one had just read that link a few nights ago--the whole
| >| > thing. But I'll be the first to admit I'm a little odd! ;-)
|
|
 
The latter. Takes on to know one, as 'they' say, Curt.
And Joan ... put a sock in it or on it <w>

MowGreen [MVP 2003-2007]
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===============


Curt Christianson wrote:

> Curious Mow,
>
> You'll second Shenan's reading, or the fact i'm odd!
>
 
Actually, Sun's java packages are a handy vehicle for malware writers.
Why ? Because when the currently installed package is updated, the
older, vulnerable versions are left on the system.
These older, vulnerable versions can be called by the malwarians.
Sun finally admitted this August 22, 2006:
http://mowgreen.castlecops.com/archives/2006/08/sun_finally_admits_that_previo.html

> Notes:
> 1. Prior to 5.0 Update 6, an applet could specify the version of the JRE on which it
> would run. With 5.0 Update 6 and later installed on the Windows platform, all applets are
> executed with the latest version of the JRE.

So 'they' say . Don't bet on it.

MowGreen [MVP 2003-2007]
===============
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===============


Xenomorph wrote:

> it's probably for the thousands of programs that rely on it.
>
>
> "SliqM" <poorboy321#OnlyFirstTenCharacters@Hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:468569f2$1@news.nb.nu...
>
>>Hello,
>>
>>I am working with windowsXP SP2 pro and IE7. It works okay for me but what
>>is the advantage to install Sun's Java JRE?
>>
>>TIA
>
>
>
 
LOL!

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"MowGreen [MVP]" <mowgreen@nowandzen.com> wrote in message
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| The latter. Takes on to know one, as 'they' say, Curt.
| And Joan ... put a sock in it or on it <w>
|
| MowGreen [MVP 2003-2007]
| ===============
| *-343-* FDNY
| Never Forgotten
| ===============
|
|
| Curt Christianson wrote:
|
| > Curious Mow,
| >
| > You'll second Shenan's reading, or the fact i'm odd!
| >
 
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