Software installation problems with Vista

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Donchano

First of all, my apologies if crossposting is not acceptable or if I'm
not posting to the right group. Please let me know.

Comp: Toshiba Satellite M200 laptop
OS: Windows Vista Home Basic (without SP1 installed)

OK - A friend's computer. She hasn't used it in the six months since I
helped her buy it, so it hasn't been online.

Before I go online to download updates like SP1, I want to install a
firewall. I've downloaded Comodo's latest free firewall for Win32 as
well as various freeware antivirus and antispyware software.

The problem is trying to install ANY of these programmes.

When I double-click the installation file a window pops up telling me
that the installation programme has stopped working. I've disabled
Windows worthless firewall, but that doesn't solve the problem.

Any advice on how I can install security software on this computer
would be greatly appreciated. I use WXPpro, so I don't have these
problems on my PC.
 
Use the Windows Firewall until after SP1 in installed.... and I doubt
she needs more than it anyway.

Update ALL drivers before attempting SP1.

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Select your model here.

"Donchano" wrote in message
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> First of all, my apologies if crossposting is not acceptable or if I'm
> not posting to the right group. Please let me know.
>
> Comp: Toshiba Satellite M200 laptop
> OS: Windows Vista Home Basic (without SP1 installed)
>
> OK - A friend's computer. She hasn't used it in the six months since I
> helped her buy it, so it hasn't been online.
>
> Before I go online to download updates like SP1, I want to install a
> firewall. I've downloaded Comodo's latest free firewall for Win32 as
> well as various freeware antivirus and antispyware software.
>
> The problem is trying to install ANY of these programmes.
>
> When I double-click the installation file a window pops up telling me
> that the installation programme has stopped working. I've disabled
> Windows worthless firewall, but that doesn't solve the problem.
>
> Any advice on how I can install security software on this computer
> would be greatly appreciated. I use WXPpro, so I don't have these
> problems on my PC.
>
>
 
Also to install A|NY programs in Vista - RIGHT CLICK on
program and select RUN AS ADMIN.

"Donchano" wrote in message
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> First of all, my apologies if crossposting is not acceptable or if I'm
> not posting to the right group. Please let me know.
>
> Comp: Toshiba Satellite M200 laptop
> OS: Windows Vista Home Basic (without SP1 installed)
>
> OK - A friend's computer. She hasn't used it in the six months since I
> helped her buy it, so it hasn't been online.
>
> Before I go online to download updates like SP1, I want to install a
> firewall. I've downloaded Comodo's latest free firewall for Win32 as
> well as various freeware antivirus and antispyware software.
>
> The problem is trying to install ANY of these programmes.
>
> When I double-click the installation file a window pops up telling me
> that the installation programme has stopped working. I've disabled
> Windows worthless firewall, but that doesn't solve the problem.
>
> Any advice on how I can install security software on this computer
> would be greatly appreciated. I use WXPpro, so I don't have these
> problems on my PC.
>
>
 
Also to install A|NY programs in Vista - RIGHT CLICK on
program and select RUN AS ADMIN.

"Donchano" wrote in message
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> First of all, my apologies if crossposting is not acceptable or if I'm
> not posting to the right group. Please let me know.
>
> Comp: Toshiba Satellite M200 laptop
> OS: Windows Vista Home Basic (without SP1 installed)
>
> OK - A friend's computer. She hasn't used it in the six months since I
> helped her buy it, so it hasn't been online.
>
> Before I go online to download updates like SP1, I want to install a
> firewall. I've downloaded Comodo's latest free firewall for Win32 as
> well as various freeware antivirus and antispyware software.
>
> The problem is trying to install ANY of these programmes.
>
> When I double-click the installation file a window pops up telling me
> that the installation programme has stopped working. I've disabled
> Windows worthless firewall, but that doesn't solve the problem.
>
> Any advice on how I can install security software on this computer
> would be greatly appreciated. I use WXPpro, so I don't have these
> problems on my PC.
>
>
 
On Sun, 30 Mar 2008 15:37:55 -0700, "Spirit"
magnanimously proffered:

>Also to install A|NY programs in Vista - RIGHT CLICK on
>program and select RUN AS ADMIN.

Many thanks. That solved the problem.

>
>"Donchano" wrote in message
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>>
>> Comp: Toshiba Satellite M200 laptop
>> OS: Windows Vista Home Basic (without SP1 installed)
>>
>> Before I go online to download updates like SP1, I want to install a
>> firewall. I've downloaded Comodo's latest free firewall for Win32 as
>> well as various freeware antivirus and antispyware software.
>>
>> The problem is trying to install ANY of these programmes.
>>
>> When I double-click the installation file a window pops up telling me
>> that the installation programme has stopped working. I've disabled
>> Windows worthless firewall, but that doesn't solve the problem.
>>
>> Any advice on how I can install security software on this computer
>> would be greatly appreciated. I use WXPpro, so I don't have these
>> problems on my PC.
>>
>>
 
"Donchano" wrote in message
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> First of all, my apologies if crossposting is not acceptable or if I'm
> not posting to the right group. Please let me know.
>
> Comp: Toshiba Satellite M200 laptop
> OS: Windows Vista Home Basic (without SP1 installed)
>
> OK - A friend's computer. She hasn't used it in the six months since I
> helped her buy it, so it hasn't been online.
>
> Before I go online to download updates like SP1, I want to install a
> firewall. I've downloaded Comodo's latest free firewall for Win32 as
> well as various freeware antivirus and antispyware software.
>
> The problem is trying to install ANY of these programmes.
>
> When I double-click the installation file a window pops up telling me
> that the installation programme has stopped working. I've disabled
> Windows worthless firewall, but that doesn't solve the problem.
>
> Any advice on how I can install security software on this computer
> would be greatly appreciated. I use WXPpro, so I don't have these
> problems on my PC.
>
>

Donchano,

A little advice about Comodo's firewall: Since November of 2007 I had
many problems installing updates from WU. The updates would install
successfully but then some time after a reboot the updates would uninstall
and then become available again. I could only install the updates after
completely uninstalling the Comodo firewall first. I would then reinstall
Comodo.
If you have future problems with updates not installing, or installing
and then becoming available for installation again you should try completely
uninstalling your Comodo firewall prior to updating.
Comodo informed me many times that the problems were fixed but I found
this to be untrue. Perhaps Comodo has finally fixed the problem. I don't
know because I won't use their firewall again. I am satisfied with the
native Windows firewall.
Please don't misunderstand me. I think Comodo is a very good firewall.
I liked it better than any other firewall I tried. If I had not had the
associated problems I would still be using it. I think you will be very
satisfied with it.

C.B.


--
It is the responsibility and duty of everyone to help the underprivileged
and unfortunate among us.
 
"Donchano" wrote in message
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>
> When I double-click the installation file a window pops up telling me
> that the installation programme has stopped working. I've disabled
> Windows worthless firewall, but that doesn't solve the problem.

Just out of curiously why have you deemed the Windows firewall in Vista
worthless? You say you are not a Vista user. Have you or someone whom you
have supported on Vista had some sort of problem or incursion with the Vista
firewall? Do you have some dying need to install a third party product to
replace anything that comes from Microsoft? Sounds to me like your friend is
not the most experienced computer user. My suggestion for security and
updates would be to go with something simple and secure like Windows Live
One Care. Takes all the work out of staying safe and up to date, especially
for folks who don't want to deal with all the hassles of third party
solutions.

http://onecare.live.com/standard/en-us/One...pdsch&WT.srch=1

Free 90 day trial.
 
On Mon, 31 Mar 2008 11:18:55 +1300, Donchano
wrote:

>Before I go online to download updates like SP1, I want to install a
>firewall.

Huh??? - Vista already comes with a decent one.

>I've downloaded Comodo's latest free firewall for Win32 as
>well as various freeware antivirus and antispyware software.

Fine. And now, what are you planning to do in terms on security?

>The problem is trying to install ANY of these programmes.

You should be happy about that.

>When I double-click the installation file a window pops up telling me
>that the installation programme has stopped working. I've disabled
>Windows worthless firewall, but that doesn't solve the problem.

Calling the windows firewall worthless says more about you than
anything else.

>Any advice on how I can install security software on this computer
>would be greatly appreciated.

Your ignorance makes your idea of even "securing a computer" moot.

>I use WXPpro, so I don't have these problems on my PC.

But it doesn't keep you from bashing stuff you don't understand. Get a
clue.
 
"Donchano" wrote in message
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>
> Besides, I don't want my friend's computer protected by just a
> "decent" firewall, I want it protected by the best freeware firewall
> available (according to independent reviews) - and the best is
> definitely is not Vista's firewall.
>
> To put it another way, I have used Vista on my friend's laptop for the
> past week and I have to agree that it is an unmitigated disaster and
> that I am justified in not trusting Vista's firewall any more than I
> trust the operating system itself.

Even if all of your firewall effectiveness data is founded, I don't think
that computers with decent firewalls are being targeted all that much. The
malicious hackers/thieves/spammers out there are looking for NO FIREWALL or
for higher value targets. Whatever third party solution you install for your
novice friend you will from my experience end up having to support because
novices have a tendency to screw stuff up. My suggestion of using One Care
is a very effective way of providing fairly automated protection from
malicious attacks as well as basic maintenance including functional and
security updates, hard drive defragmentation and junk file removal. It's
also very good at alerting novices that there is something wrong or in need
of attention. The family and acquaintance computers that I've installed it
on have been purring along quite nicely with a minimum of "support" from me.
It's free to try for 90 days and you just might be surprised at what a
nicely integrated low overhead solution it provides. "All things Microsoft"
do not suck, and I think One Care has developed quite nicely in the two or
so years since they purchased the basic technology that it's based on (can't
remember the name of the company now?)

Charles Tomaras
Seattle, WA
 
"Donchano" wrote in message
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>
> To put it another way, I have used Vista on my friend's laptop for the
> past week and I have to agree that it is an unmitigated disaster

Eh? I have used Vista for two weeks on MY laptop (having had XP before) and
I can truthfully say it is ONE HUNDRED PERCENT successful!
 
On Sat, 5 Apr 2008 08:27:57 +0100, "Gordon"
magnanimously proffered:

>"Donchano" wrote in message
>news:pntdv3p5ldqndq302lo3lcmdb793tj7c4s@4ax.com...
>>
>> To put it another way, I have used Vista on my friend's laptop for the
>> past week and I have to agree that it is an unmitigated disaster
>
>Eh? I have used Vista for two weeks on MY laptop (having had XP before) and
>I can truthfully say it is ONE HUNDRED PERCENT successful!

Congratulations!
 
"Donchano" wrote in message
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> On Sat, 5 Apr 2008 08:27:57 +0100, "Gordon"
> magnanimously proffered:
>
>>"Donchano" wrote in message
>>news:pntdv3p5ldqndq302lo3lcmdb793tj7c4s@4ax.com...
>>>
>>> To put it another way, I have used Vista on my friend's laptop for the
>>> past week and I have to agree that it is an unmitigated disaster
>>
>>Eh? I have used Vista for two weeks on MY laptop (having had XP before)
>>and
>>I can truthfully say it is ONE HUNDRED PERCENT successful!
>
> Congratulations!
>


So define "unmitigated disaster".
 
On Sat, 5 Apr 2008 09:01:03 +0100, "Gordon"
magnanimously proffered:

>"Donchano" wrote in message
>news:umbev3ldm2tjerob91f09bk87pk57inebg@4ax.com...
>> On Sat, 5 Apr 2008 08:27:57 +0100, "Gordon"
>> magnanimously proffered:
>>
>>>"Donchano" wrote in message
>>>news:pntdv3p5ldqndq302lo3lcmdb793tj7c4s@4ax.com...
>>>>
>>>> To put it another way, I have used Vista on my friend's laptop for the
>>>> past week and I have to agree that it is an unmitigated disaster
>>>
>>>Eh? I have used Vista for two weeks on MY laptop (having had XP before)
>>>and
>>>I can truthfully say it is ONE HUNDRED PERCENT successful!
>>
>> Congratulations!
>>
>
>
>So define "unmitigated disaster".

Windows Vista.

***


BTW - I didn't come here to argue about whether or not Windows Vista
is a POS. That verdict has already been delivered by tens of thousands
of dissatisfied users and countless reviews. I simply asked for
assistance and got it. Thank you to those who helped.

Frankly, I'm not interested in the apologists for or defenders of
Vista. IMO, it is the Ford Edsel of operating systems.

Thank God some enlightened computer manufacturers still offer
customers a choice of OS - as they should. No customer - personal or
enterprise - should be dictated to by an OS provider that is
"supposed" to be fulfilling the customer's needs, not their own. Shame
on Microsoft for imposing Vista on their customers. Their "denial"
reminds me of the Cold War Soviet Union and Vista's champions as their
"dupes."
 
"Donchano" wrote in message
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> On Sat, 5 Apr 2008 09:01:03 +0100, "Gordon"
> magnanimously proffered:
>
>>"Donchano" wrote in message
>>news:umbev3ldm2tjerob91f09bk87pk57inebg@4ax.com...
>>> On Sat, 5 Apr 2008 08:27:57 +0100, "Gordon"
>>> magnanimously proffered:
>>>
>>>>"Donchano" wrote in message
>>>>news:pntdv3p5ldqndq302lo3lcmdb793tj7c4s@4ax.com...
>>>>>
>>>>> To put it another way, I have used Vista on my friend's laptop for the
>>>>> past week and I have to agree that it is an unmitigated disaster
>>>>
>>>>Eh? I have used Vista for two weeks on MY laptop (having had XP before)
>>>>and
>>>>I can truthfully say it is ONE HUNDRED PERCENT successful!
>>>
>>> Congratulations!
>>>
>>
>>
>>So define "unmitigated disaster".
>
> Windows Vista.
>
> ***
>
>
> BTW - I didn't come here to argue about whether or not Windows Vista
> is a POS. That verdict has already been delivered by tens of thousands
> of dissatisfied users and countless reviews. I simply asked for
> assistance and got it. Thank you to those who helped.
>
> Frankly, I'm not interested in the apologists for or defenders of
> Vista. IMO, it is the Ford Edsel of operating systems.
>
> Thank God some enlightened computer manufacturers still offer
> customers a choice of OS - as they should. No customer - personal or
> enterprise - should be dictated to by an OS provider that is
> "supposed" to be fulfilling the customer's needs, not their own. Shame
> on Microsoft for imposing Vista on their customers. Their "denial"
> reminds me of the Cold War Soviet Union and Vista's champions as their
> "dupes."
>
>

I don't know if any of you remember when Bill Gates was pushing windows 98
when it first was about to come out and demonstrated it at a conference and
on TV where 100's attended. As soon as he booted his PC up the dam thing
crashed and he made a remark, -- well back to the drawing board! I suggest
that he and MS do the same with Vista instead of pushing a halfassed version
of Vista. Microsoft I hear always has been guilty of using us customers out
in the real world to beta test and shake down their products instead of
doing exhausted testing on their own before marketing their products, and
coming out with one update after another
My 2 cents worth..
 
Gordon wrote:
>
>
>
> So define "unmitigated disaster".


"I can't figure out how to configure it."

--

Bruce Chambers

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killed a great many philosophers.
~ Denis Diderot
 
"Dave" wrote in message
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> Microsoft I hear always has been guilty of using us customers out in the
> real world to beta test and shake down their products instead of doing
> exhausted testing on their own before marketing their products, and coming
> out with one update after another
> My 2 cents worth..

Vista had most likely the largest beta test program of any piece of software
in history.

Why don't you move on to a different OS and stop your cross posted trolling.
As a vegetarian, I don't particularly care for the food fare at McDonalds
but I don't spend my time bitching on McDonalds newsgroups. I think your
path is clear. Go away Dave.
 
On Sat, 5 Apr 2008 08:58:14 -0700, "Charles Tomaras"
wrote:

>
>"Dave" wrote in message
>news:Q92dnQucfoIcD2ranZ2dnUVZ_u6rnZ2d@comcast.com...
>
>
>> Microsoft I hear always has been guilty of using us customers out in the
>> real world to beta test and shake down their products instead of doing
>> exhausted testing on their own before marketing their products, and coming
>> out with one update after another
>> My 2 cents worth..
>
>Vista had most likely the largest beta test program of any piece of software
>in history.

Which resulted in Microsoft dumping a poorly designed, bug riddled,
crash prone, very bloated half-ass version on the public just like
every other prior version of Windows has been. It's the Microsoft way!
Release a buggy version, hope their customers find the bugs they
(Microsoft) were too lazy and too stupid to find on their own, release
SP1, SP2, etc,, repeat, repeat, repeat until the next "new" version of
Windows with a whole new set of bugs plus many of the old ones from
the prior versions that never got addressed is released and then the
cycle starts all over again. Rubes like Charles claps his hands and
actually enjoys the abuse and probably waits in line to buy the new
copy of Windows at midnight.
>
>Why don't you move on to a different OS and stop your cross posted trolling.

Why don't losers like you pull your stupid heads out of your dumb
asses and realize Microsoft NEVER has released a "good" version of
Windows and likely never will because of morons like you that accept
good enough as good enough.

>As a vegetarian, I don't particularly care for the food fare at McDonalds
>but I don't spend my time bitching on McDonalds newsgroups. I think your
>path is clear. Go away Dave.

Can't handle the truth about Windows I see.
 
"Charles Tomaras" wrote in message
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>
> "Dave" wrote in message
> news:Q92dnQucfoIcD2ranZ2dnUVZ_u6rnZ2d@comcast.com...
>
>
>> Microsoft I hear always has been guilty of using us customers out in the
>> real world to beta test and shake down their products instead of doing
>> exhausted testing on their own before marketing their products, and
>> coming out with one update after another
>> My 2 cents worth..
>
> Vista had most likely the largest beta test program of any piece of
> software in history.
>
> Why don't you move on to a different OS and stop your cross posted
> trolling. As a vegetarian, I don't particularly care for the food fare at
> McDonalds but I don't spend my time bitching on McDonalds newsgroups. I
> think your path is clear. Go away Dave.
>
KISS MY ASS
 
"Dave" wrote in message
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>
> "Charles Tomaras" wrote in message
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>>
>> "Dave" wrote in message
>> news:Q92dnQucfoIcD2ranZ2dnUVZ_u6rnZ2d@comcast.com...
>>
>>
>>> Microsoft I hear always has been guilty of using us customers out in the
>>> real world to beta test and shake down their products instead of doing
>>> exhausted testing on their own before marketing their products, and
>>> coming out with one update after another
>>> My 2 cents worth..
>>
>> Vista had most likely the largest beta test program of any piece of
>> software in history.
>>
>> Why don't you move on to a different OS and stop your cross posted
>> trolling. As a vegetarian, I don't particularly care for the food fare at
>> McDonalds but I don't spend my time bitching on McDonalds newsgroups. I
>> think your path is clear. Go away Dave.
>>
> KISS MY ASS

smooch.... now see ya.
 
"Bruce Chambers" wrote in message
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> Gordon wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> So define "unmitigated disaster".
>
>
> "I can't figure out how to configure it."
>
> --
>
> Bruce Chambers
>
> Help us help you:
> http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
>
> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/kb/555375
>
> They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
> safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. ~Benjamin Franklin
>
> Many people would rather die than think in fact, most do. ~Bertrand
> Russell
>
> The philosopher has never killed any priests, whereas the priest has
> killed a great many philosophers.
> ~ Denis Diderot

I had three progams I used frequently on XP that I could not use on VISTA
and my HP printer would not work causing me to buy a new one. I suppose
Vista cost me $300 extra and I do like it nearly as well as XP.
 
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