So what's the easiest box to hack - Vista, Ubuntu or OS X?

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So which do you predict will be the first to be hacked? Looking at the rules
and configurations I predict either a cross platform AIR exploit on either
Vista or OS X or a Safari exploit on OS X.

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Kerry Brown
MS-MVP - Windows Desktop Experience: Systems Administration
http://www.vistahelp.ca/phpBB2/



"On the Bridge! (An MVP upgrade)" <On@the,bridge> wrote in message
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I am curious to see what it will be...

I cant say.. I wont go with the obvious one.. HEHE we all know what that one
is :-)


"Kerry Brown" <kerry@kdbNOSPAMsys-tems.c*a*m> wrote in message
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> So which do you predict will be the first to be hacked? Looking at the
> rules and configurations I predict either a cross platform AIR exploit on
> either Vista or OS X or a Safari exploit on OS X.
>
> --
> Kerry Brown
> MS-MVP - Windows Desktop Experience: Systems Administration
> http://www.vistahelp.ca/phpBB2/
>
>
>
> "On the Bridge! (An MVP upgrade)" <On@the,bridge> wrote in message
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>> http://www.activewin.com/awin/comments.asp?HeadlineIndex=43151
>>

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Re: Is 13 your age or your IQ?

You don't like me because I smack down Vista all the time.. lol

You think I hate it.. but that's not true.

I bash vista all the time yes, but I also tell people to get it with new
computers and also help people in here with vista problems. I continue to
use vista and to learn everything I can about it.

You see Im like the Japanese strikers, who continue to work while they are
striking. They strike by wearing a red ribbon on their heads in a action of
protest, and insist on finding resolutions for their problems.
This is because they dont hate their company.. they just want change for the
better.

In the SAME logic, I do not hate MS or windows.. I just want change for the
better...

But I guess this is too complex for you to grasp.. you are used to sticking
labels like
"MS HATER" bla bla

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Re: Is 13 your age or your IQ?

"On the Bridge! (An MVP upgrade)" <On@the,bridge> wrote in message
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> You don't like me because I smack down Vista all the time.. lol
>
> You think I hate it.. but that's not true.
>
> I bash vista all the time yes, but I also tell people to get it with new
> computers and also help people in here with vista problems. I continue to
> use vista and to learn everything I can about it.
>


Well if you like the product, use it and stop the constant bashing. That
gets annoying.

> You see Im like the Japanese strikers, who continue to work while they are
> striking. They strike by wearing a red ribbon on their heads in a action
> of
> protest, and insist on finding resolutions for their problems.
> This is because they dont hate their company.. they just want change for
> the
> better.


You are not like the Japanese strikers because they have decent jobs. Your
goal in life is the fryer at McDonald's. You really should aim higher.

You should get the red ribbon and place it around your neck. Then go find
some Japanese people to pull both ends.

>
> In the SAME logic, I do not hate MS or windows.. I just want change for
> the
> better...
>


Wrong. You are so full of it you could run for public office.


> But I guess this is too complex for you to grasp.. you are used to
> sticking
> labels like
> "MS HATER" bla bla
>

Well, if the shoe fits....
 
On the Bridge! (An MVP upgrade) wrote:
> I am curious to see what it will be...
>
> I cant say.. I wont go with the obvious one.. HEHE we all know what that one
> is :-)


I've had more Linux boxes remotely compromised than Windows XP/Vista.
Of course those we servers on the internet being subjected to constant
port scans and brute force attacks. I've never had a Linux desktop
remotely compromised.

A lot of my Windows users have gotten viruses/trojans - of course their
behavior played a part in the infection. Windows is surprisingly secure
when you take away bad use behavior and keep the system up to date.

I've even had a Mac OS X server get remotely compromised. It was a web
server and an SSH brute force attack let a bad guy in and he used it to
start sending lots of spam. I only caught it because I noticed a huge
spike in cpu/disk activity.

That is one of the worst feeling in the world, when one of your systems
gets hacked. I've had 2 Linux servers get hacked and had phishing sites
set up on them. Ugh.

-Chris
 
a Linux was system hacked where one of my sites resided, but that was
because the web server was running an out of date mambo (joomla) on one of
the host accounts probably. I changed hosts quickly..




"Chris" <chris@NO_UCEwebboise.com> wrote in message
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> On the Bridge! (An MVP upgrade) wrote:
>> I am curious to see what it will be...
>>
>> I cant say.. I wont go with the obvious one.. HEHE we all know what that
>> one is :-)

>
> I've had more Linux boxes remotely compromised than Windows XP/Vista. Of
> course those we servers on the internet being subjected to constant port
> scans and brute force attacks. I've never had a Linux desktop remotely
> compromised.
>
> A lot of my Windows users have gotten viruses/trojans - of course their
> behavior played a part in the infection. Windows is surprisingly secure
> when you take away bad use behavior and keep the system up to date.
>
> I've even had a Mac OS X server get remotely compromised. It was a web
> server and an SSH brute force attack let a bad guy in and he used it to
> start sending lots of spam. I only caught it because I noticed a huge
> spike in cpu/disk activity.
>
> That is one of the worst feeling in the world, when one of your systems
> gets hacked. I've had 2 Linux servers get hacked and had phishing sites
> set up on them. Ugh.
>
> -Chris
>
 
On the Bridge! (An MVP upgrade) wrote:
> http://www.activewin.com/awin/comments.asp?HeadlineIndex=43151


Am I the only one that thinks this is ridiculous? Enable the built-in
firewall to drop any incoming packets and none should be hacked.
Especially if there's no stupid users doing stupid things on the laptops.

Now, if they disable the firewall, that's stupid, since it's on by
default. Set up Apache and MySQL on Ubuntu. Install some things like
squirrelmail or awstats. Something that gets exploited. Install
Exchange and SQL server on Windows. Enable server stuff on the MacBook.
At least now you have a target - but it doesn't really say which "OS"
is easier to hack.

My 2 cents.

-Chris (MCSA, VCP, Linux+)
 
In article <7LREj.20174$Fo4.814@fe12.usenetserver.com>,
Chris <chris@NO_UCEwebboise.com> wrote:
>
>I've never had a Linux desktop >remotely compromised.
>


Oh, gosh, I have. Of course. this goes back ten or twelve years,
but...

Remember the mountd/statd exploit? All the techs in the support
department ran Linux on their workstations, and one of those got rooted
this way. The intruder used a variety of methods to leapfrog from the
tech's desktop onto the real servers, and it turned into quite a mess.
 
In article <E3SEj.31046$161.10703@fe51.usenetserver.com>,
Chris <chris@NO_UCEwebboise.com> wrote:
>
>Am I the only one that thinks this is ridiculous? Enable the built-in
>firewall to drop any incoming packets and none should be hacked.


You won't get much work done, either.
 
"On the Bridge! (An MVP upgrade)" <On@the,bridge> wrote in message
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>I am curious to see what it will be...
>
> I cant say.. I wont go with the obvious one.. HEHE we all know what that
> one is :-)
>



So what was the obvious one? Looks like I nailed it with a Safari exploit.

http://blogs.zdnet.com/security/?p=984&tag=nl.e539

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Kerry Brown
MS-MVP - Windows Desktop Experience: Systems Administration
http://www.vistahelp.ca/phpBB2/
 
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