Restore defrag program

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Johnfed

Somehow I have deleted the defrag program in my windows X/P home edition
system. I have tried various things to insure I have not just deleted a
shortcut.

Where can I find a location that will allow me to download a replacement
defrag file.
I did not get a system disk with my HP Pavillion computer.
 
John

Open Windows Explorer and navigate to the windows\inf folder. Find the
dfrg.inf file, right click on it and select Install. You may be asked
for the XP CD.
Source: Ramesh

--



Hope this helps.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~



Johnfed wrote:
> Somehow I have deleted the defrag program in my windows X/P home
> edition system. I have tried various things to insure I have not just
> deleted a shortcut.
>
> Where can I find a location that will allow me to download a
> replacement defrag file.
> I did not get a system disk with my HP Pavillion computer.
 
thank you for your response. I found the folder and did a right click and
selected install. Went to program menu, accessories and selected defrag.
Got message that defrag.msc "does not have a program associated with it for
performing this action". Says to create an association in the Folder Options
control panel. Does this mean the program did not load?

"Gerry" wrote:

> John
>
> Open Windows Explorer and navigate to the windows\inf folder. Find the
> dfrg.inf file, right click on it and select Install. You may be asked
> for the XP CD.
> Source: Ramesh
>
> --
>
>
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> Gerry
> ~~~~
> FCA
> Stourport, England
> Enquire, plan and execute
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
>
>
> Johnfed wrote:
> > Somehow I have deleted the defrag program in my windows X/P home
> > edition system. I have tried various things to insure I have not just
> > deleted a shortcut.
> >
> > Where can I find a location that will allow me to download a
> > replacement defrag file.
> > I did not get a system disk with my HP Pavillion computer.

>
>
>
 
Try running the edit on line 280 left side.
http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/xp_tweaks.htm
--
Mike Pawlak


"Johnfed" wrote:

> thank you for your response. I found the folder and did a right click and
> selected install. Went to program menu, accessories and selected defrag.
> Got message that defrag.msc "does not have a program associated with it for
> performing this action". Says to create an association in the Folder Options
> control panel. Does this mean the program did not load?
>
> "Gerry" wrote:
>
> > John
> >
> > Open Windows Explorer and navigate to the windows\inf folder. Find the
> > dfrg.inf file, right click on it and select Install. You may be asked
> > for the XP CD.
> > Source: Ramesh
> >
> > --
> >
> >
> >
> > Hope this helps.
> >
> > Gerry
> > ~~~~
> > FCA
> > Stourport, England
> > Enquire, plan and execute
> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> >
> >
> >
> > Johnfed wrote:
> > > Somehow I have deleted the defrag program in my windows X/P home
> > > edition system. I have tried various things to insure I have not just
> > > deleted a shortcut.
> > >
> > > Where can I find a location that will allow me to download a
> > > replacement defrag file.
> > > I did not get a system disk with my HP Pavillion computer.

> >
> >
> >
 
See if this helps.

In Windows Explorer, navigate to the C:\WINDOWS\System32 folder.
In that folder locate the file named dfrg.msc.
Right click on dfrg.msc and select "Open With..." from the menu.
This should bring up a dialog where you can select a program to open this type
of file.
Hit the Browse button and navigate once again to the C:\WINDOWS\System32 folder.
Locate the file named mmc.exe and click on it.
Hit the Open button.
Back in the Open With dialog, make sure Microsoft Management Console is now
highlighted as the program to open this file.
If so, put a check mark in the box next to "Always use the selected program to
open this kind of file".
Click OK.
Go back to the Start menu and see if you can launch Disk Defragmenter.

Good luck

Nepatsfan

"Johnfed" <Johnfed@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:0C426D95-2BB9-4E04-880B-A57635ACF824@microsoft.com...
> thank you for your response. I found the folder and did a right click and
> selected install. Went to program menu, accessories and selected defrag.
> Got message that defrag.msc "does not have a program associated with it for
> performing this action". Says to create an association in the Folder Options
> control panel. Does this mean the program did not load?
>
> "Gerry" wrote:
>
>> John
>>
>> Open Windows Explorer and navigate to the windows\inf folder. Find the
>> dfrg.inf file, right click on it and select Install. You may be asked
>> for the XP CD.
>> Source: Ramesh
>>
>> --
>>
>>
>>
>> Hope this helps.
>>
>> Gerry
>> ~~~~
>> FCA
>> Stourport, England
>> Enquire, plan and execute
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>
>>
>>
>> Johnfed wrote:
>> > Somehow I have deleted the defrag program in my windows X/P home
>> > edition system. I have tried various things to insure I have not just
>> > deleted a shortcut.
>> >
>> > Where can I find a location that will allow me to download a
>> > replacement defrag file.
>> > I did not get a system disk with my HP Pavillion computer.

>>
>>
>>
 
Thanks for the suggestion. I got as far as looking for mmc.exe in the System
32 folder but I could not find it. I will next do a search with Windows
Explorer and see if it is located somewhere else on my computer.

"Nepatsfan" wrote:

> See if this helps.
>
> In Windows Explorer, navigate to the C:\WINDOWS\System32 folder.
> In that folder locate the file named dfrg.msc.
> Right click on dfrg.msc and select "Open With..." from the menu.
> This should bring up a dialog where you can select a program to open this type
> of file.
> Hit the Browse button and navigate once again to the C:\WINDOWS\System32 folder.
> Locate the file named mmc.exe and click on it.
> Hit the Open button.
> Back in the Open With dialog, make sure Microsoft Management Console is now
> highlighted as the program to open this file.
> If so, put a check mark in the box next to "Always use the selected program to
> open this kind of file".
> Click OK.
> Go back to the Start menu and see if you can launch Disk Defragmenter.
>
> Good luck
>
> Nepatsfan
>
> "Johnfed" <Johnfed@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:0C426D95-2BB9-4E04-880B-A57635ACF824@microsoft.com...
> > thank you for your response. I found the folder and did a right click and
> > selected install. Went to program menu, accessories and selected defrag.
> > Got message that defrag.msc "does not have a program associated with it for
> > performing this action". Says to create an association in the Folder Options
> > control panel. Does this mean the program did not load?
> >
> > "Gerry" wrote:
> >
> >> John
> >>
> >> Open Windows Explorer and navigate to the windows\inf folder. Find the
> >> dfrg.inf file, right click on it and select Install. You may be asked
> >> for the XP CD.
> >> Source: Ramesh
> >>
> >> --
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Hope this helps.
> >>
> >> Gerry
> >> ~~~~
> >> FCA
> >> Stourport, England
> >> Enquire, plan and execute
> >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Johnfed wrote:
> >> > Somehow I have deleted the defrag program in my windows X/P home
> >> > edition system. I have tried various things to insure I have not just
> >> > deleted a shortcut.
> >> >
> >> > Where can I find a location that will allow me to download a
> >> > replacement defrag file.
> >> > I did not get a system disk with my HP Pavillion computer.
> >>
> >>
> >>

>
>
>
>
 
I found and associated mmc.exe with dfrg.msc and got a new message.
"Application failed to start because mmcbase.DLL was not found.
Re-installing the application may fix this" it said. I have nothing to
re-install from.

"Nepatsfan" wrote:

> See if this helps.
>
> In Windows Explorer, navigate to the C:\WINDOWS\System32 folder.
> In that folder locate the file named dfrg.msc.
> Right click on dfrg.msc and select "Open With..." from the menu.
> This should bring up a dialog where you can select a program to open this type
> of file.
> Hit the Browse button and navigate once again to the C:\WINDOWS\System32 folder.
> Locate the file named mmc.exe and click on it.
> Hit the Open button.
> Back in the Open With dialog, make sure Microsoft Management Console is now
> highlighted as the program to open this file.
> If so, put a check mark in the box next to "Always use the selected program to
> open this kind of file".
> Click OK.
> Go back to the Start menu and see if you can launch Disk Defragmenter.
>
> Good luck
>
> Nepatsfan
>
> "Johnfed" <Johnfed@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:0C426D95-2BB9-4E04-880B-A57635ACF824@microsoft.com...
> > thank you for your response. I found the folder and did a right click and
> > selected install. Went to program menu, accessories and selected defrag.
> > Got message that defrag.msc "does not have a program associated with it for
> > performing this action". Says to create an association in the Folder Options
> > control panel. Does this mean the program did not load?
> >
> > "Gerry" wrote:
> >
> >> John
> >>
> >> Open Windows Explorer and navigate to the windows\inf folder. Find the
> >> dfrg.inf file, right click on it and select Install. You may be asked
> >> for the XP CD.
> >> Source: Ramesh
> >>
> >> --
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Hope this helps.
> >>
> >> Gerry
> >> ~~~~
> >> FCA
> >> Stourport, England
> >> Enquire, plan and execute
> >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Johnfed wrote:
> >> > Somehow I have deleted the defrag program in my windows X/P home
> >> > edition system. I have tried various things to insure I have not just
> >> > deleted a shortcut.
> >> >
> >> > Where can I find a location that will allow me to download a
> >> > replacement defrag file.
> >> > I did not get a system disk with my HP Pavillion computer.
> >>
> >>
> >>

>
>
>
>
 
Johnfed wrote:
> Somehow I have deleted the defrag program in my windows X/P home
> edition system. I have tried various things to insure I have not just
> deleted a shortcut.
>
> Where can I find a location that will allow me to download a
> replacement defrag file.
> I did not get a system disk with my HP Pavillion computer.


Use this as an excuse to replace the Windows defrag with something more
friendly.

http://www.auslogics.com/disk-defrag

Is free and pretty good. I'm sure there are others.
 
Sounds like your problem extends beyond just the inability to run Disk
Defragmenter. Tools in Windows XP such as the defragmenter require the Microsoft
Management Console, mmc.exe, to work properly.

Go to Control Panel and double click Administrative Tools. In the Administrative
Tools folder, see if you can run Computer Management and Event Viewer. Report
back with any error messages that you receive.

Also, when you say "I have nothing to re-install from", does that mean you don't
have a Windows XP installation CD?

Nepatsfan

"Johnfed" <Johnfed@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:6750515C-1B4B-4561-A49C-0A56FF2F57D1@microsoft.com...
>I found and associated mmc.exe with dfrg.msc and got a new message.
> "Application failed to start because mmcbase.DLL was not found.
> Re-installing the application may fix this" it said. I have nothing to
> re-install from.
>
> "Nepatsfan" wrote:
>
>> See if this helps.
>>
>> In Windows Explorer, navigate to the C:\WINDOWS\System32 folder.
>> In that folder locate the file named dfrg.msc.
>> Right click on dfrg.msc and select "Open With..." from the menu.
>> This should bring up a dialog where you can select a program to open this
>> type
>> of file.
>> Hit the Browse button and navigate once again to the C:\WINDOWS\System32
>> folder.
>> Locate the file named mmc.exe and click on it.
>> Hit the Open button.
>> Back in the Open With dialog, make sure Microsoft Management Console is now
>> highlighted as the program to open this file.
>> If so, put a check mark in the box next to "Always use the selected program
>> to
>> open this kind of file".
>> Click OK.
>> Go back to the Start menu and see if you can launch Disk Defragmenter.
>>
>> Good luck
>>
>> Nepatsfan
>>
>> "Johnfed" <Johnfed@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:0C426D95-2BB9-4E04-880B-A57635ACF824@microsoft.com...
>> > thank you for your response. I found the folder and did a right click and
>> > selected install. Went to program menu, accessories and selected defrag.
>> > Got message that defrag.msc "does not have a program associated with it for
>> > performing this action". Says to create an association in the Folder
>> > Options
>> > control panel. Does this mean the program did not load?
>> >
>> > "Gerry" wrote:
>> >
>> >> John
>> >>
>> >> Open Windows Explorer and navigate to the windows\inf folder. Find the
>> >> dfrg.inf file, right click on it and select Install. You may be asked
>> >> for the XP CD.
>> >> Source: Ramesh
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Hope this helps.
>> >>
>> >> Gerry
>> >> ~~~~
>> >> FCA
>> >> Stourport, England
>> >> Enquire, plan and execute
>> >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Johnfed wrote:
>> >> > Somehow I have deleted the defrag program in my windows X/P home
>> >> > edition system. I have tried various things to insure I have not just
>> >> > deleted a shortcut.
>> >> >
>> >> > Where can I find a location that will allow me to download a
>> >> > replacement defrag file.
>> >> > I did not get a system disk with my HP Pavillion computer.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>

>>
>>
>>
>>
 
I have re-installed Microsoft Management Console from a source on the
Internet. I found a copy of mmc.exe and copied it into System 32 folder. Now
I get the error message "The procedure entry poin
?MMCNullInterface@Bookeeping@@SGXHPBGO@Z could not be located in the dynamic
link library mmcbase.DLL. That is the same message I now get when I try to
run Computer Management and Event viewer, as you suggested.

I did run
http://www.auslogics.com/disk-defrag as suggested by HeyBub in his post and
it worked to completion, defragmenting 40 of 41 fragmented files which didn't
seem like a lot of files compared to the degredation in restore time that I
have been experiencing. I ran restore a couple of times, once going back to
early December and when that didn't help I restored to 12/27. That last
restore took a couple hours or more....way excessive.

To answer your question: X/P was pre-installed on my HP computer when I
bought it so I do not have an X/P disk.

"Nepatsfan" wrote:

> Sounds like your problem extends beyond just the inability to run Disk
> Defragmenter. Tools in Windows XP such as the defragmenter require the Microsoft
> Management Console, mmc.exe, to work properly.
>
> Go to Control Panel and double click Administrative Tools. In the Administrative
> Tools folder, see if you can run Computer Management and Event Viewer. Report
> back with any error messages that you receive.


I did run
>
> Also, when you say "I have nothing to re-install from", does that mean you don't
> have a Windows XP installation CD?
>
> Nepatsfan
>
> "Johnfed" <Johnfed@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:6750515C-1B4B-4561-A49C-0A56FF2F57D1@microsoft.com...
> >I found and associated mmc.exe with dfrg.msc and got a new message.
> > "Application failed to start because mmcbase.DLL was not found.
> > Re-installing the application may fix this" it said. I have nothing to
> > re-install from.
> >
> > "Nepatsfan" wrote:
> >
> >> See if this helps.
> >>
> >> In Windows Explorer, navigate to the C:\WINDOWS\System32 folder.
> >> In that folder locate the file named dfrg.msc.
> >> Right click on dfrg.msc and select "Open With..." from the menu.
> >> This should bring up a dialog where you can select a program to open this
> >> type
> >> of file.
> >> Hit the Browse button and navigate once again to the C:\WINDOWS\System32
> >> folder.
> >> Locate the file named mmc.exe and click on it.
> >> Hit the Open button.
> >> Back in the Open With dialog, make sure Microsoft Management Console is now
> >> highlighted as the program to open this file.
> >> If so, put a check mark in the box next to "Always use the selected program
> >> to
> >> open this kind of file".
> >> Click OK.
> >> Go back to the Start menu and see if you can launch Disk Defragmenter.
> >>
> >> Good luck
> >>
> >> Nepatsfan
> >>
> >> "Johnfed" <Johnfed@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> news:0C426D95-2BB9-4E04-880B-A57635ACF824@microsoft.com...
> >> > thank you for your response. I found the folder and did a right click and
> >> > selected install. Went to program menu, accessories and selected defrag.
> >> > Got message that defrag.msc "does not have a program associated with it for
> >> > performing this action". Says to create an association in the Folder
> >> > Options
> >> > control panel. Does this mean the program did not load?
> >> >
> >> > "Gerry" wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> John
> >> >>
> >> >> Open Windows Explorer and navigate to the windows\inf folder. Find the
> >> >> dfrg.inf file, right click on it and select Install. You may be asked
> >> >> for the XP CD.
> >> >> Source: Ramesh
> >> >>
> >> >> --
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> Hope this helps.
> >> >>
> >> >> Gerry
> >> >> ~~~~
> >> >> FCA
> >> >> Stourport, England
> >> >> Enquire, plan and execute
> >> >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> Johnfed wrote:
> >> >> > Somehow I have deleted the defrag program in my windows X/P home
> >> >> > edition system. I have tried various things to insure I have not just
> >> >> > deleted a shortcut.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Where can I find a location that will allow me to download a
> >> >> > replacement defrag file.
> >> >> > I did not get a system disk with my HP Pavillion computer.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>

>
>
>
>
 
Thanks for the tip. I ran the program and it defragged 40 of 41 files which
seemed like a small number compared to my systems poor performance on system
restores. Last restore took more than a couple of hours.

"Gerry" wrote:

> John
>
> Open Windows Explorer and navigate to the windows\inf folder. Find the
> dfrg.inf file, right click on it and select Install. You may be asked
> for the XP CD.
> Source: Ramesh
>
> --
>
>
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> Gerry
> ~~~~
> FCA
> Stourport, England
> Enquire, plan and execute
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
>
>
> Johnfed wrote:
> > Somehow I have deleted the defrag program in my windows X/P home
> > edition system. I have tried various things to insure I have not just
> > deleted a shortcut.
> >
> > Where can I find a location that will allow me to download a
> > replacement defrag file.
> > I did not get a system disk with my HP Pavillion computer.

>
>
>
 
OK, let's start with the easy stuff.

You might want to take a look at the following article from HP. If you're having
major problems, you may have no option but to reinstall XP.

HP and Compaq Desktop PCs - Obtaining a Recovery CD or DVD set
http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/genericDocument?lc=en&cc=us&dlc=en&docname=bph07143

If you end up having to reinstall XP, take a look at this article.

HP and Compaq Desktop PCs - Performing an HP System Recovery in Windows XP
http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/genericDocument?lc=en&cc=us&dlc=en&docname=bph07145#bph07145_doc

That said, here are a few other suggestions.

First off, there's a command line version of XP's disk defragmenter. It can be
run by doing the following;
Go to Start and click on Run.
In the Open box, enter cmd.exe.
This should open a Command Prompt window.
At the prompt enter the following and hit the Enter key;

defrag.exe C: -v

You'll see an analysis report first and a final report when the program ends.

As for the problem you're having with mmc.exe, I would call the following a
solution of last resort. Microsoft states that this file will work with Windows
XP. Scroll down to the Windows XP section. The file to download would be the x86
version.

MMC 3.0 update is available for Windows Server 2003 and for Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/907265

Finally, having problems with Windows programs not working correctly and System
Restore taking hours to complete could be a sign of problems with your XP
installation or the hard drive on your system. The first thing to suspect when
multiple problems develop is some sort of malware. I'm not saying that's the
source of your problems but it's a possibility.

Good luck

Nepatsfan


"Johnfed" <Johnfed@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:C69C6050-1210-4786-A51B-13A186F8DA22@microsoft.com...
>I have re-installed Microsoft Management Console from a source on the
> Internet. I found a copy of mmc.exe and copied it into System 32 folder. Now
> I get the error message "The procedure entry poin
> ?MMCNullInterface@Bookeeping@@SGXHPBGO@Z could not be located in the dynamic
> link library mmcbase.DLL. That is the same message I now get when I try to
> run Computer Management and Event viewer, as you suggested.
>
> I did run
> http://www.auslogics.com/disk-defrag as suggested by HeyBub in his post and
> it worked to completion, defragmenting 40 of 41 fragmented files which didn't
> seem like a lot of files compared to the degredation in restore time that I
> have been experiencing. I ran restore a couple of times, once going back to
> early December and when that didn't help I restored to 12/27. That last
> restore took a couple hours or more....way excessive.
>
> To answer your question: X/P was pre-installed on my HP computer when I
> bought it so I do not have an X/P disk.
>
> "Nepatsfan" wrote:
>
>> Sounds like your problem extends beyond just the inability to run Disk
>> Defragmenter. Tools in Windows XP such as the defragmenter require the
>> Microsoft
>> Management Console, mmc.exe, to work properly.
>>
>> Go to Control Panel and double click Administrative Tools. In the
>> Administrative
>> Tools folder, see if you can run Computer Management and Event Viewer. Report
>> back with any error messages that you receive.

>
> I did run
>>
>> Also, when you say "I have nothing to re-install from", does that mean you
>> don't
>> have a Windows XP installation CD?
>>
>> Nepatsfan
>>
>> "Johnfed" <Johnfed@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:6750515C-1B4B-4561-A49C-0A56FF2F57D1@microsoft.com...
>> >I found and associated mmc.exe with dfrg.msc and got a new message.
>> > "Application failed to start because mmcbase.DLL was not found.
>> > Re-installing the application may fix this" it said. I have nothing to
>> > re-install from.
>> >
>> > "Nepatsfan" wrote:
>> >
>> >> See if this helps.
>> >>
>> >> In Windows Explorer, navigate to the C:\WINDOWS\System32 folder.
>> >> In that folder locate the file named dfrg.msc.
>> >> Right click on dfrg.msc and select "Open With..." from the menu.
>> >> This should bring up a dialog where you can select a program to open this
>> >> type
>> >> of file.
>> >> Hit the Browse button and navigate once again to the C:\WINDOWS\System32
>> >> folder.
>> >> Locate the file named mmc.exe and click on it.
>> >> Hit the Open button.
>> >> Back in the Open With dialog, make sure Microsoft Management Console is
>> >> now
>> >> highlighted as the program to open this file.
>> >> If so, put a check mark in the box next to "Always use the selected
>> >> program
>> >> to
>> >> open this kind of file".
>> >> Click OK.
>> >> Go back to the Start menu and see if you can launch Disk Defragmenter.
>> >>
>> >> Good luck
>> >>
>> >> Nepatsfan
>> >>
>> >> "Johnfed" <Johnfed@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> >> news:0C426D95-2BB9-4E04-880B-A57635ACF824@microsoft.com...
>> >> > thank you for your response. I found the folder and did a right click
>> >> > and
>> >> > selected install. Went to program menu, accessories and selected
>> >> > defrag.
>> >> > Got message that defrag.msc "does not have a program associated with it
>> >> > for
>> >> > performing this action". Says to create an association in the Folder
>> >> > Options
>> >> > control panel. Does this mean the program did not load?
>> >> >
>> >> > "Gerry" wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> John
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Open Windows Explorer and navigate to the windows\inf folder. Find the
>> >> >> dfrg.inf file, right click on it and select Install. You may be asked
>> >> >> for the XP CD.
>> >> >> Source: Ramesh
>> >> >>
>> >> >> --
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Hope this helps.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Gerry
>> >> >> ~~~~
>> >> >> FCA
>> >> >> Stourport, England
>> >> >> Enquire, plan and execute
>> >> >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Johnfed wrote:
>> >> >> > Somehow I have deleted the defrag program in my windows X/P home
>> >> >> > edition system. I have tried various things to insure I have not just
>> >> >> > deleted a shortcut.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Where can I find a location that will allow me to download a
>> >> >> > replacement defrag file.
>> >> >> > I did not get a system disk with my HP Pavillion computer.
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>

>>
>>
>>
>>
 
O.K. I have done everything I was asked and some things that I tried on my
own and everything now seems to be o.k. (I'm not sure which made the
difference) Defrag works although it is not the Windows defrag.exe, but
Diskeeper which I bought a couple of days ago for $29.00 and which was also
not working when I installed it. The programs, Computer Management and Event
Viewer in Control Panel, Administrative Tools are working also. Disk defrag
cleaned up my C: and D: disks and everything is healthy. SO: You guys are
all "super dudes" to help a 73 yr old computer novice solve what he thought
was a serious problem. Bless you all, and Happy New Year 2008! I'm out of
here.

"Nepatsfan" wrote:

> OK, let's start with the easy stuff.
>
> You might want to take a look at the following article from HP. If you're having
> major problems, you may have no option but to reinstall XP.
>
> HP and Compaq Desktop PCs - Obtaining a Recovery CD or DVD set
> http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/genericDocument?lc=en&cc=us&dlc=en&docname=bph07143
>
> If you end up having to reinstall XP, take a look at this article.
>
> HP and Compaq Desktop PCs - Performing an HP System Recovery in Windows XP
> http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/genericDocument?lc=en&cc=us&dlc=en&docname=bph07145#bph07145_doc
>
> That said, here are a few other suggestions.
>
> First off, there's a command line version of XP's disk defragmenter. It can be
> run by doing the following;
> Go to Start and click on Run.
> In the Open box, enter cmd.exe.
> This should open a Command Prompt window.
> At the prompt enter the following and hit the Enter key;
>
> defrag.exe C: -v
>
> You'll see an analysis report first and a final report when the program ends.
>
> As for the problem you're having with mmc.exe, I would call the following a
> solution of last resort. Microsoft states that this file will work with Windows
> XP. Scroll down to the Windows XP section. The file to download would be the x86
> version.
>
> MMC 3.0 update is available for Windows Server 2003 and for Windows XP
> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/907265
>
> Finally, having problems with Windows programs not working correctly and System
> Restore taking hours to complete could be a sign of problems with your XP
> installation or the hard drive on your system. The first thing to suspect when
> multiple problems develop is some sort of malware. I'm not saying that's the
> source of your problems but it's a possibility.
>
> Good luck
>
> Nepatsfan
>
>
> "Johnfed" <Johnfed@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:C69C6050-1210-4786-A51B-13A186F8DA22@microsoft.com...
> >I have re-installed Microsoft Management Console from a source on the
> > Internet. I found a copy of mmc.exe and copied it into System 32 folder. Now
> > I get the error message "The procedure entry poin
> > ?MMCNullInterface@Bookeeping@@SGXHPBGO@Z could not be located in the dynamic
> > link library mmcbase.DLL. That is the same message I now get when I try to
> > run Computer Management and Event viewer, as you suggested.
> >
> > I did run
> > http://www.auslogics.com/disk-defrag as suggested by HeyBub in his post and
> > it worked to completion, defragmenting 40 of 41 fragmented files which didn't
> > seem like a lot of files compared to the degredation in restore time that I
> > have been experiencing. I ran restore a couple of times, once going back to
> > early December and when that didn't help I restored to 12/27. That last
> > restore took a couple hours or more....way excessive.
> >
> > To answer your question: X/P was pre-installed on my HP computer when I
> > bought it so I do not have an X/P disk.
> >
> > "Nepatsfan" wrote:
> >
> >> Sounds like your problem extends beyond just the inability to run Disk
> >> Defragmenter. Tools in Windows XP such as the defragmenter require the
> >> Microsoft
> >> Management Console, mmc.exe, to work properly.
> >>
> >> Go to Control Panel and double click Administrative Tools. In the
> >> Administrative
> >> Tools folder, see if you can run Computer Management and Event Viewer. Report
> >> back with any error messages that you receive.

> >
> > I did run
> >>
> >> Also, when you say "I have nothing to re-install from", does that mean you
> >> don't
> >> have a Windows XP installation CD?
> >>
> >> Nepatsfan
> >>
> >> "Johnfed" <Johnfed@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> news:6750515C-1B4B-4561-A49C-0A56FF2F57D1@microsoft.com...
> >> >I found and associated mmc.exe with dfrg.msc and got a new message.
> >> > "Application failed to start because mmcbase.DLL was not found.
> >> > Re-installing the application may fix this" it said. I have nothing to
> >> > re-install from.
> >> >
> >> > "Nepatsfan" wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> See if this helps.
> >> >>
> >> >> In Windows Explorer, navigate to the C:\WINDOWS\System32 folder.
> >> >> In that folder locate the file named dfrg.msc.
> >> >> Right click on dfrg.msc and select "Open With..." from the menu.
> >> >> This should bring up a dialog where you can select a program to open this
> >> >> type
> >> >> of file.
> >> >> Hit the Browse button and navigate once again to the C:\WINDOWS\System32
> >> >> folder.
> >> >> Locate the file named mmc.exe and click on it.
> >> >> Hit the Open button.
> >> >> Back in the Open With dialog, make sure Microsoft Management Console is
> >> >> now
> >> >> highlighted as the program to open this file.
> >> >> If so, put a check mark in the box next to "Always use the selected
> >> >> program
> >> >> to
> >> >> open this kind of file".
> >> >> Click OK.
> >> >> Go back to the Start menu and see if you can launch Disk Defragmenter.
> >> >>
> >> >> Good luck
> >> >>
> >> >> Nepatsfan
> >> >>
> >> >> "Johnfed" <Johnfed@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> >> news:0C426D95-2BB9-4E04-880B-A57635ACF824@microsoft.com...
> >> >> > thank you for your response. I found the folder and did a right click
> >> >> > and
> >> >> > selected install. Went to program menu, accessories and selected
> >> >> > defrag.
> >> >> > Got message that defrag.msc "does not have a program associated with it
> >> >> > for
> >> >> > performing this action". Says to create an association in the Folder
> >> >> > Options
> >> >> > control panel. Does this mean the program did not load?
> >> >> >
> >> >> > "Gerry" wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> John
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Open Windows Explorer and navigate to the windows\inf folder. Find the
> >> >> >> dfrg.inf file, right click on it and select Install. You may be asked
> >> >> >> for the XP CD.
> >> >> >> Source: Ramesh
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> --
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Hope this helps.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Gerry
> >> >> >> ~~~~
> >> >> >> FCA
> >> >> >> Stourport, England
> >> >> >> Enquire, plan and execute
> >> >> >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Johnfed wrote:
> >> >> >> > Somehow I have deleted the defrag program in my windows X/P home
> >> >> >> > edition system. I have tried various things to insure I have not just
> >> >> >> > deleted a shortcut.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > Where can I find a location that will allow me to download a
> >> >> >> > replacement defrag file.
> >> >> >> > I did not get a system disk with my HP Pavillion computer.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>

>
>
>
>
 
Glad to hear you were able to fix your problems. Thanks for the update.

Happy New Year

Nepatsfan

"Johnfed" <Johnfed@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:C979457E-E850-4306-B75F-FF883130A8C5@microsoft.com...
> O.K. I have done everything I was asked and some things that I tried on my
> own and everything now seems to be o.k. (I'm not sure which made the
> difference) Defrag works although it is not the Windows defrag.exe, but
> Diskeeper which I bought a couple of days ago for $29.00 and which was also
> not working when I installed it. The programs, Computer Management and Event
> Viewer in Control Panel, Administrative Tools are working also. Disk defrag
> cleaned up my C: and D: disks and everything is healthy. SO: You guys are
> all "super dudes" to help a 73 yr old computer novice solve what he thought
> was a serious problem. Bless you all, and Happy New Year 2008! I'm out of
> here.
>
> "Nepatsfan" wrote:
>
>> OK, let's start with the easy stuff.
>>
>> You might want to take a look at the following article from HP. If you're
>> having
>> major problems, you may have no option but to reinstall XP.
>>
>> HP and Compaq Desktop PCs - Obtaining a Recovery CD or DVD set
>> http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/genericDocument?lc=en&cc=us&dlc=en&docname=bph07143
>>
>> If you end up having to reinstall XP, take a look at this article.
>>
>> HP and Compaq Desktop PCs - Performing an HP System Recovery in Windows XP
>> http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/genericDocument?lc=en&cc=us&dlc=en&docname=bph07145#bph07145_doc
>>
>> That said, here are a few other suggestions.
>>
>> First off, there's a command line version of XP's disk defragmenter. It can
>> be
>> run by doing the following;
>> Go to Start and click on Run.
>> In the Open box, enter cmd.exe.
>> This should open a Command Prompt window.
>> At the prompt enter the following and hit the Enter key;
>>
>> defrag.exe C: -v
>>
>> You'll see an analysis report first and a final report when the program ends.
>>
>> As for the problem you're having with mmc.exe, I would call the following a
>> solution of last resort. Microsoft states that this file will work with
>> Windows
>> XP. Scroll down to the Windows XP section. The file to download would be the
>> x86
>> version.
>>
>> MMC 3.0 update is available for Windows Server 2003 and for Windows XP
>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/907265
>>
>> Finally, having problems with Windows programs not working correctly and
>> System
>> Restore taking hours to complete could be a sign of problems with your XP
>> installation or the hard drive on your system. The first thing to suspect
>> when
>> multiple problems develop is some sort of malware. I'm not saying that's the
>> source of your problems but it's a possibility.
>>
>> Good luck
>>
>> Nepatsfan
>>
>>
>> "Johnfed" <Johnfed@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:C69C6050-1210-4786-A51B-13A186F8DA22@microsoft.com...
>> >I have re-installed Microsoft Management Console from a source on the
>> > Internet. I found a copy of mmc.exe and copied it into System 32 folder.
>> > Now
>> > I get the error message "The procedure entry poin
>> > ?MMCNullInterface@Bookeeping@@SGXHPBGO@Z could not be located in the
>> > dynamic
>> > link library mmcbase.DLL. That is the same message I now get when I try to
>> > run Computer Management and Event viewer, as you suggested.
>> >
>> > I did run
>> > http://www.auslogics.com/disk-defrag as suggested by HeyBub in his post and
>> > it worked to completion, defragmenting 40 of 41 fragmented files which
>> > didn't
>> > seem like a lot of files compared to the degredation in restore time that I
>> > have been experiencing. I ran restore a couple of times, once going back
>> > to
>> > early December and when that didn't help I restored to 12/27. That last
>> > restore took a couple hours or more....way excessive.
>> >
>> > To answer your question: X/P was pre-installed on my HP computer when I
>> > bought it so I do not have an X/P disk.
>> >
>> > "Nepatsfan" wrote:
>> >
>> >> Sounds like your problem extends beyond just the inability to run Disk
>> >> Defragmenter. Tools in Windows XP such as the defragmenter require the
>> >> Microsoft
>> >> Management Console, mmc.exe, to work properly.
>> >>
>> >> Go to Control Panel and double click Administrative Tools. In the
>> >> Administrative
>> >> Tools folder, see if you can run Computer Management and Event Viewer.
>> >> Report
>> >> back with any error messages that you receive.
>> >
>> > I did run
>> >>
>> >> Also, when you say "I have nothing to re-install from", does that mean you
>> >> don't
>> >> have a Windows XP installation CD?
>> >>
>> >> Nepatsfan
>> >>
>> >> "Johnfed" <Johnfed@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> >> news:6750515C-1B4B-4561-A49C-0A56FF2F57D1@microsoft.com...
>> >> >I found and associated mmc.exe with dfrg.msc and got a new message.
>> >> > "Application failed to start because mmcbase.DLL was not found.
>> >> > Re-installing the application may fix this" it said. I have nothing to
>> >> > re-install from.
>> >> >
>> >> > "Nepatsfan" wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> See if this helps.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> In Windows Explorer, navigate to the C:\WINDOWS\System32 folder.
>> >> >> In that folder locate the file named dfrg.msc.
>> >> >> Right click on dfrg.msc and select "Open With..." from the menu.
>> >> >> This should bring up a dialog where you can select a program to open
>> >> >> this
>> >> >> type
>> >> >> of file.
>> >> >> Hit the Browse button and navigate once again to the
>> >> >> C:\WINDOWS\System32
>> >> >> folder.
>> >> >> Locate the file named mmc.exe and click on it.
>> >> >> Hit the Open button.
>> >> >> Back in the Open With dialog, make sure Microsoft Management Console is
>> >> >> now
>> >> >> highlighted as the program to open this file.
>> >> >> If so, put a check mark in the box next to "Always use the selected
>> >> >> program
>> >> >> to
>> >> >> open this kind of file".
>> >> >> Click OK.
>> >> >> Go back to the Start menu and see if you can launch Disk Defragmenter.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Good luck
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Nepatsfan
>> >> >>
>> >> >> "Johnfed" <Johnfed@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> >> >> news:0C426D95-2BB9-4E04-880B-A57635ACF824@microsoft.com...
>> >> >> > thank you for your response. I found the folder and did a right
>> >> >> > click
>> >> >> > and
>> >> >> > selected install. Went to program menu, accessories and selected
>> >> >> > defrag.
>> >> >> > Got message that defrag.msc "does not have a program associated with
>> >> >> > it
>> >> >> > for
>> >> >> > performing this action". Says to create an association in the Folder
>> >> >> > Options
>> >> >> > control panel. Does this mean the program did not load?
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > "Gerry" wrote:
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> John
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Open Windows Explorer and navigate to the windows\inf folder. Find
>> >> >> >> the
>> >> >> >> dfrg.inf file, right click on it and select Install. You may be
>> >> >> >> asked
>> >> >> >> for the XP CD.
>> >> >> >> Source: Ramesh
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> --
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Hope this helps.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Gerry
>> >> >> >> ~~~~
>> >> >> >> FCA
>> >> >> >> Stourport, England
>> >> >> >> Enquire, plan and execute
>> >> >> >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Johnfed wrote:
>> >> >> >> > Somehow I have deleted the defrag program in my windows X/P home
>> >> >> >> > edition system. I have tried various things to insure I have not
>> >> >> >> > just
>> >> >> >> > deleted a shortcut.
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > Where can I find a location that will allow me to download a
>> >> >> >> > replacement defrag file.
>> >> >> >> > I did not get a system disk with my HP Pavillion computer.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>

>>
>>
>>
>>
 
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