Re: Ubuntu erased my whole hard drive

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On Oct 16, 6:03 am, Summercool <Summercooln...@gmail.com> wrote:
> After installing Ubuntu, it seemed that everything on my Drive C: was
> lost.
>
> After hours of trying, it really turned out I lost EVERYTHING on my C:
> drive.
>
> So I had to reformat the whole C: drive, and reinstall Vista on it.
>
> I lost all my bookmarks, in both IE and Firefox.
>
> I needed to reinstall every single application.
>
> I needed to reinstall all security update for Vista all over again.
>
> I wasted at least 5, 6 hours.
>
> How can "Ubuntu - Humanity towards others" erases people's whole hard
> drive without a single warning?
>
> Think about it, some people may lose tens or hundreds of hours of
> work, or 4, 5 years of photos and memories, just because Ubuntu erases
> whole hard drive without warning.
>
> The following is the install option snapshot: IT NEVER warns you the
> content in drive C: will be totally erased. What's more, it is set as
> the DEFAULT ACTION. And it says it is "GUIDED":
>
> http://aycu03.webshots.com/image/32522/2001738602340396146_rs.jpg
>
> I see that intermixed at the last install info page, it is said that
> some partition on your hard drive will get erased. But how do I know
> it isn't some partition that Ubuntu will create for me? Why not just
> say "it means your whole hard drive's content will be erased" -- best
> right after people click the "partition for whole drive" option.
>
> When it asked "How would you like to partition your hard drive",
> choosing "Use entire drive" seems like "Yes, I want to partition my
> entire C: drive and just make it dual boot with whatever OS that is
> already there". And turned out actually it means, "use my whole C
> drive and erase everything in it."
>
> Humanity towards others -- yes, when you make the software, think
> about it can be you, your children in the future, or someone not as
> skilled as you who will be using it. People don't have time to read
> thousands of words of warning and note for the installation. Just
> spend a little time to warn time before doing something as destructive
> as erasing the whole hard drive.


What do you expect?
You didn't read the mountains of documentation that come with the
typical Linux distribution, all via Google of course.
Before you even begin to think about installing Linux, you must do
your homework.

You must learn about partitioning, the dev structure and all kinds of
interesting stuff like that.
You see, Linux is not like Windows.
Linux assumes you have a brain, which obviously you don't.

You have nobody to blame but yourself.
Next time read the How-To's and Wikis before you damage your system.
 
<rodolfo.garcia44@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1192557868.019180.120530@q3g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
> On Oct 16, 6:03 am, Summercool <Summercooln...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> After installing Ubuntu, it seemed that everything on my Drive C: was
>> lost.
>>
>> After hours of trying, it really turned out I lost EVERYTHING on my C:
>> drive.
>>
>> So I had to reformat the whole C: drive, and reinstall Vista on it.
>>
>> I lost all my bookmarks, in both IE and Firefox.
>>
>> I needed to reinstall every single application.
>>
>> I needed to reinstall all security update for Vista all over again.
>>
>> I wasted at least 5, 6 hours.
>>
>> How can "Ubuntu - Humanity towards others" erases people's whole hard
>> drive without a single warning?
>>
>> Think about it, some people may lose tens or hundreds of hours of
>> work, or 4, 5 years of photos and memories, just because Ubuntu erases
>> whole hard drive without warning.
>>
>> The following is the install option snapshot: IT NEVER warns you the
>> content in drive C: will be totally erased. What's more, it is set as
>> the DEFAULT ACTION. And it says it is "GUIDED":
>>
>> http://aycu03.webshots.com/image/32522/2001738602340396146_rs.jpg
>>
>> I see that intermixed at the last install info page, it is said that
>> some partition on your hard drive will get erased. But how do I know
>> it isn't some partition that Ubuntu will create for me? Why not just
>> say "it means your whole hard drive's content will be erased" -- best
>> right after people click the "partition for whole drive" option.
>>
>> When it asked "How would you like to partition your hard drive",
>> choosing "Use entire drive" seems like "Yes, I want to partition my
>> entire C: drive and just make it dual boot with whatever OS that is
>> already there". And turned out actually it means, "use my whole C
>> drive and erase everything in it."
>>
>> Humanity towards others -- yes, when you make the software, think
>> about it can be you, your children in the future, or someone not as
>> skilled as you who will be using it. People don't have time to read
>> thousands of words of warning and note for the installation. Just
>> spend a little time to warn time before doing something as destructive
>> as erasing the whole hard drive.
>
>
> What do you expect?
> You didn't read the mountains of documentation that come with the
> typical Linux distribution, all via Google of course.
> Before you even begin to think about installing Linux, you must do
> your homework.
>
> You must learn about partitioning, the dev structure and all kinds of
> interesting stuff like that.
> You see, Linux is not like Windows.
> Linux assumes you have a brain, which obviously you don't.
>
> You have nobody to blame but yourself.
> Next time read the How-To's and Wikis before you damage your system.
>
>
Linux is s**t
Remeber to wipe yourself before you reinstall windows
 
"olfart" <olfart65@excite.com> wrote in news:5nkdpcFijr2uU1
@mid.individual.net:

>
> <rodolfo.garcia44@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1192557868.019180.120530@q3g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
>> On Oct 16, 6:03 am, Summercool <Summercooln...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> After installing Ubuntu, it seemed that everything on my Drive C: was
>>> lost.
>>>
>>> After hours of trying, it really turned out I lost EVERYTHING on my
C:
>>> drive.
>>>
>>> So I had to reformat the whole C: drive, and reinstall Vista on it.
>>>
>>> I lost all my bookmarks, in both IE and Firefox.
>>>
>>> I needed to reinstall every single application.
>>>
>>> I needed to reinstall all security update for Vista all over again.
>>>
>>> I wasted at least 5, 6 hours.
>>>
>>> How can "Ubuntu - Humanity towards others" erases people's whole hard
>>> drive without a single warning?
>>>
>>> Think about it, some people may lose tens or hundreds of hours of
>>> work, or 4, 5 years of photos and memories, just because Ubuntu
erases
>>> whole hard drive without warning.
>>>
>>> The following is the install option snapshot: IT NEVER warns you the
>>> content in drive C: will be totally erased. What's more, it is set as
>>> the DEFAULT ACTION. And it says it is "GUIDED":
>>>
>>> http://aycu03.webshots.com/image/32522/2001738602340396146_rs.jpg
>>>
>>> I see that intermixed at the last install info page, it is said that
>>> some partition on your hard drive will get erased. But how do I know
>>> it isn't some partition that Ubuntu will create for me? Why not just
>>> say "it means your whole hard drive's content will be erased" -- best
>>> right after people click the "partition for whole drive" option.
>>>
>>> When it asked "How would you like to partition your hard drive",
>>> choosing "Use entire drive" seems like "Yes, I want to partition my
>>> entire C: drive and just make it dual boot with whatever OS that is
>>> already there". And turned out actually it means, "use my whole C
>>> drive and erase everything in it."
>>>
>>> Humanity towards others -- yes, when you make the software, think
>>> about it can be you, your children in the future, or someone not as
>>> skilled as you who will be using it. People don't have time to read
>>> thousands of words of warning and note for the installation. Just
>>> spend a little time to warn time before doing something as
destructive
>>> as erasing the whole hard drive.
>>
>>
>> What do you expect?
>> You didn't read the mountains of documentation that come with the
>> typical Linux distribution, all via Google of course.
>> Before you even begin to think about installing Linux, you must do
>> your homework.
>>
>> You must learn about partitioning, the dev structure and all kinds of
>> interesting stuff like that.
>> You see, Linux is not like Windows.
>> Linux assumes you have a brain, which obviously you don't.
>>
>> You have nobody to blame but yourself.
>> Next time read the How-To's and Wikis before you damage your system.
>>
>>
> Linux is s**t
> Remeber to wipe yourself before you reinstall windows

Linux has nothing to do with this particular users problem.

Guess what....Windows asks how you want to partition the drive too, so if
you have no clue as to what partitioning is or what it actually means,
you could get screwed no matter what OS you are installing.

So there's noone/thing to blame except the user in this case.
 
In other words, linux is not for the average use to perform an install when
other operating systems are already on the computer. (bait)

--

Regards,

Richard Urban
Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
(For email, remove the obvious from my address)



<rodolfo.garcia44@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1192557868.019180.120530@q3g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
> On Oct 16, 6:03 am, Summercool <Summercooln...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> After installing Ubuntu, it seemed that everything on my Drive C: was
>> lost.
>>
>> After hours of trying, it really turned out I lost EVERYTHING on my C:
>> drive.
>>
>> So I had to reformat the whole C: drive, and reinstall Vista on it.
>>
>> I lost all my bookmarks, in both IE and Firefox.
>>
>> I needed to reinstall every single application.
>>
>> I needed to reinstall all security update for Vista all over again.
>>
>> I wasted at least 5, 6 hours.
>>
>> How can "Ubuntu - Humanity towards others" erases people's whole hard
>> drive without a single warning?
>>
>> Think about it, some people may lose tens or hundreds of hours of
>> work, or 4, 5 years of photos and memories, just because Ubuntu erases
>> whole hard drive without warning.
>>
>> The following is the install option snapshot: IT NEVER warns you the
>> content in drive C: will be totally erased. What's more, it is set as
>> the DEFAULT ACTION. And it says it is "GUIDED":
>>
>> http://aycu03.webshots.com/image/32522/2001738602340396146_rs.jpg
>>
>> I see that intermixed at the last install info page, it is said that
>> some partition on your hard drive will get erased. But how do I know
>> it isn't some partition that Ubuntu will create for me? Why not just
>> say "it means your whole hard drive's content will be erased" -- best
>> right after people click the "partition for whole drive" option.
>>
>> When it asked "How would you like to partition your hard drive",
>> choosing "Use entire drive" seems like "Yes, I want to partition my
>> entire C: drive and just make it dual boot with whatever OS that is
>> already there". And turned out actually it means, "use my whole C
>> drive and erase everything in it."
>>
>> Humanity towards others -- yes, when you make the software, think
>> about it can be you, your children in the future, or someone not as
>> skilled as you who will be using it. People don't have time to read
>> thousands of words of warning and note for the installation. Just
>> spend a little time to warn time before doing something as destructive
>> as erasing the whole hard drive.
>
>
> What do you expect?
> You didn't read the mountains of documentation that come with the
> typical Linux distribution, all via Google of course.
> Before you even begin to think about installing Linux, you must do
> your homework.
>
> You must learn about partitioning, the dev structure and all kinds of
> interesting stuff like that.
> You see, Linux is not like Windows.
> Linux assumes you have a brain, which obviously you don't.
>
> You have nobody to blame but yourself.
> Next time read the How-To's and Wikis before you damage your system.
>
>
>
 
rodolfo.garcia44@gmail.com wrote:

> On Oct 16, 6:03 am, Summercool <Summercooln...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>After installing Ubuntu, it seemed that everything on my Drive C: was
>>lost.
>>
>>After hours of trying, it really turned out I lost EVERYTHING on my C:
>>drive.
>>
>>So I had to reformat the whole C: drive, and reinstall Vista on it.
>>
>>I lost all my bookmarks, in both IE and Firefox.
>>
>>I needed to reinstall every single application.
>>
>>I needed to reinstall all security update for Vista all over again.
>>
>>I wasted at least 5, 6 hours.
>>
>>How can "Ubuntu - Humanity towards others" erases people's whole hard
>>drive without a single warning?
>>
>>Think about it, some people may lose tens or hundreds of hours of
>>work, or 4, 5 years of photos and memories, just because Ubuntu erases
>>whole hard drive without warning.
>>
>>The following is the install option snapshot: IT NEVER warns you the
>>content in drive C: will be totally erased. What's more, it is set as
>>the DEFAULT ACTION. And it says it is "GUIDED":
>>
>> http://aycu03.webshots.com/image/32522/2001738602340396146_rs.jpg
>>
>>I see that intermixed at the last install info page, it is said that
>>some partition on your hard drive will get erased. But how do I know
>>it isn't some partition that Ubuntu will create for me? Why not just
>>say "it means your whole hard drive's content will be erased" -- best
>>right after people click the "partition for whole drive" option.
>>
>>When it asked "How would you like to partition your hard drive",
>>choosing "Use entire drive" seems like "Yes, I want to partition my
>>entire C: drive and just make it dual boot with whatever OS that is
>>already there". And turned out actually it means, "use my whole C
>>drive and erase everything in it."
>>
>>Humanity towards others -- yes, when you make the software, think
>>about it can be you, your children in the future, or someone not as
>>skilled as you who will be using it. People don't have time to read
>>thousands of words of warning and note for the installation. Just
>>spend a little time to warn time before doing something as destructive
>>as erasing the whole hard drive.
>
>
>
> What do you expect?
> You didn't read the mountains of documentation that come with the
> typical Linux distribution, all via Google of course.
> Before you even begin to think about installing Linux, you must do
> your homework.
>
> You must learn about partitioning, the dev structure and all kinds of
> interesting stuff like that.
> You see, Linux is not like Windows.
> Linux assumes you have a brain, which obviously you don't.
>
> You have nobody to blame but yourself.
> Next time read the How-To's and Wikis before you damage your system.
>
>
>
Oh yes....how wonderful!
Frank
 
On 2007-10-16, Richard Urban <richardurbanREMOVETHIS@hotmail.com> wrote:
> In other words, linux is not for the average use to perform an install when
> other operating systems are already on the computer. (bait)
>

Any install of Windows would blow away other operating systems due to
its use of bootloader, right?

i
 
rodolfo.garcia44@gmail.com wrote:
> On Oct 16, 6:03 am, Summercool <Summercooln...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> After installing Ubuntu, it seemed that everything on my Drive C: was
>> lost.
>>

For the simplest Ubuntu install on a windows box, use Wubi
(Windows Ubuntu Installer).

"Wubi is an unofficial Ubuntu installer for Windows users that will bring you
into the Linux world with a single click. Wubi allows you to install and
uninstall Ubuntu Linux as any other application."

http://www.download.com/3000-2098_4-10702316.html
 
On Tue, 16 Oct 2007 13:44:34 -0500, Ignoramus1841
<ignoramus1841@NOSPAM.1841.invalid> wrote:

>On 2007-10-16, Richard Urban <richardurbanREMOVETHIS@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> In other words, linux is not for the average use to perform an install when
>> other operating systems are already on the computer. (bait)
>>
>
>Any install of Windows would blow away other operating systems due to
>its use of bootloader, right?
>
>i
Well not quite. Windows always overwrites the boot partition and
thereby screws grub, lilo or whatever.

However, all you need is your linux install disk and a bit of
knowledge and you can get to a command line in Linux, reinstall grub
to the boot partition and be back in business in no time.

Strangely, despite being a former penguinista, I find that Vista is
alright for me (save a few flaws with my business's web based accounts
system) and that I cannot be bothered with the challenge of how to
make linux do what I want any more. Anyway, if I want quasi unix, I
have an iMac for that sort of thing!
 
On 2007-10-16, Snuff <snuffin@all2worry4.com> wrote:
> On Tue, 16 Oct 2007 13:44:34 -0500, Ignoramus1841
><ignoramus1841@NOSPAM.1841.invalid> wrote:
>
>>On 2007-10-16, Richard Urban <richardurbanREMOVETHIS@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>> In other words, linux is not for the average use to perform an install when
>>> other operating systems are already on the computer. (bait)
>>>
>>
>>Any install of Windows would blow away other operating systems due to
>>its use of bootloader, right?
>>
>>i
> Well not quite. Windows always overwrites the boot partition and
> thereby screws grub, lilo or whatever.
>
> However, all you need is your linux install disk and a bit of
> knowledge and you can get to a command line in Linux, reinstall grub
> to the boot partition and be back in business in no time.

Yes.

> Strangely, despite being a former penguinista, I find that Vista is
> alright for me (save a few flaws with my business's web based
> accounts system) and that I cannot be bothered with the challenge of
> how to make linux do what I want any more. Anyway, if I want quasi
> unix, I have an iMac for that sort of thing!

Mac is Unix, not quasi Unix.

Just curious, how long does it take Vista to boot?

i
 
"lee h" <noti@domain.invalid> wrote in message
news:MM7Ri.10622$lD6.5170@newssvr27.news.prodigy.net...
> rodolfo.garcia44@gmail.com wrote:
>> On Oct 16, 6:03 am, Summercool <Summercooln...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> After installing Ubuntu, it seemed that everything on my Drive C: was
>>> lost.
>>>
>
> For the simplest Ubuntu install on a windows box, use Wubi
> (Windows Ubuntu Installer).

Its a bit too late for that.
The lack of a suitable warning has made sure another potential Linux user
will stick with something else.
This is the problem with Linux .. it is written by geeks who have no idea
how simple it has to be for the mass market.
Windows would have warned the user at least twice before removing a Linux
partition and that would be after selecting the partition and saying delete.
 
rodolfo.garcia44@gmail.com wrote:
> On Oct 16, 6:03 am, Summercool <Summercooln...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> After installing Ubuntu, it seemed that everything on my Drive C: was
>> lost.
>>
>> After hours of trying, it really turned out I lost EVERYTHING on my
>> C: drive.
>>
>> So I had to reformat the whole C: drive, and reinstall Vista on it.
>>
>> I lost all my bookmarks, in both IE and Firefox.
>>
>> I needed to reinstall every single application.
>>
>> I needed to reinstall all security update for Vista all over again.
>>
>> I wasted at least 5, 6 hours.
>>
>> How can "Ubuntu - Humanity towards others" erases people's whole hard
>> drive without a single warning?
>>
>> Think about it, some people may lose tens or hundreds of hours of
>> work, or 4, 5 years of photos and memories, just because Ubuntu
>> erases whole hard drive without warning.
>>
>> The following is the install option snapshot: IT NEVER warns you the
>> content in drive C: will be totally erased. What's more, it is set as
>> the DEFAULT ACTION. And it says it is "GUIDED":
>>
>> http://aycu03.webshots.com/image/32522/2001738602340396146_rs.jpg
>>
>> I see that intermixed at the last install info page, it is said that
>> some partition on your hard drive will get erased. But how do I know
>> it isn't some partition that Ubuntu will create for me? Why not just
>> say "it means your whole hard drive's content will be erased" -- best
>> right after people click the "partition for whole drive" option.
>>
>> When it asked "How would you like to partition your hard drive",
>> choosing "Use entire drive" seems like "Yes, I want to partition my
>> entire C: drive and just make it dual boot with whatever OS that is
>> already there". And turned out actually it means, "use my whole C
>> drive and erase everything in it."
>>
>> Humanity towards others -- yes, when you make the software, think
>> about it can be you, your children in the future, or someone not as
>> skilled as you who will be using it. People don't have time to read
>> thousands of words of warning and note for the installation. Just
>> spend a little time to warn time before doing something as
>> destructive as erasing the whole hard drive.
>
>
> What do you expect?
> You didn't read the mountains of documentation that come with the
> typical Linux distribution, all via Google of course.
> Before you even begin to think about installing Linux, you must do
> your homework.
>
> You must learn about partitioning, the dev structure and all kinds of
> interesting stuff like that.
> You see, Linux is not like Windows.
> Linux assumes you have a brain, which obviously you don't.

Or, Linux - in a moment of supreme self-importance - thought for a
moment that it WAS Windows and just took over you PC......

(Sorry, could not resist).

Jeff
 
Try using your brain.
Why would it be any different from any other OS installation.

"rodolfo.garcia44@gmail.com" wrote:

> On Oct 16, 6:03 am, Summercool <Summercooln...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > After installing Ubuntu, it seemed that everything on my Drive C: was
> > lost.
> >
> > After hours of trying, it really turned out I lost EVERYTHING on my C:
> > drive.
> >
> > So I had to reformat the whole C: drive, and reinstall Vista on it.
> >
> > I lost all my bookmarks, in both IE and Firefox.
> >
> > I needed to reinstall every single application.
> >
> > I needed to reinstall all security update for Vista all over again.
> >
> > I wasted at least 5, 6 hours.
> >
> > How can "Ubuntu - Humanity towards others" erases people's whole hard
> > drive without a single warning?
> >
> > Think about it, some people may lose tens or hundreds of hours of
> > work, or 4, 5 years of photos and memories, just because Ubuntu erases
> > whole hard drive without warning.
> >
> > The following is the install option snapshot: IT NEVER warns you the
> > content in drive C: will be totally erased. What's more, it is set as
> > the DEFAULT ACTION. And it says it is "GUIDED":
> >
> > http://aycu03.webshots.com/image/32522/2001738602340396146_rs.jpg
> >
> > I see that intermixed at the last install info page, it is said that
> > some partition on your hard drive will get erased. But how do I know
> > it isn't some partition that Ubuntu will create for me? Why not just
> > say "it means your whole hard drive's content will be erased" -- best
> > right after people click the "partition for whole drive" option.
> >
> > When it asked "How would you like to partition your hard drive",
> > choosing "Use entire drive" seems like "Yes, I want to partition my
> > entire C: drive and just make it dual boot with whatever OS that is
> > already there". And turned out actually it means, "use my whole C
> > drive and erase everything in it."
> >
> > Humanity towards others -- yes, when you make the software, think
> > about it can be you, your children in the future, or someone not as
> > skilled as you who will be using it. People don't have time to read
> > thousands of words of warning and note for the installation. Just
> > spend a little time to warn time before doing something as destructive
> > as erasing the whole hard drive.
>
>
> What do you expect?
> You didn't read the mountains of documentation that come with the
> typical Linux distribution, all via Google of course.
> Before you even begin to think about installing Linux, you must do
> your homework.
>
> You must learn about partitioning, the dev structure and all kinds of
> interesting stuff like that.
> You see, Linux is not like Windows.
> Linux assumes you have a brain, which obviously you don't.
>
> You have nobody to blame but yourself.
> Next time read the How-To's and Wikis before you damage your system.
>
>
>
>
 
Neither is Windows .......

Jeff

Richard Urban wrote:
> In other words, linux is not for the average use to perform an
> install when other operating systems are already on the computer.
> (bait)
>
> <rodolfo.garcia44@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1192557868.019180.120530@q3g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
>> On Oct 16, 6:03 am, Summercool <Summercooln...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> After installing Ubuntu, it seemed that everything on my Drive C:
>>> was lost.
>>>
>>> After hours of trying, it really turned out I lost EVERYTHING on my
>>> C: drive.
>>>
>>> So I had to reformat the whole C: drive, and reinstall Vista on it.
>>>
>>> I lost all my bookmarks, in both IE and Firefox.
>>>
>>> I needed to reinstall every single application.
>>>
>>> I needed to reinstall all security update for Vista all over again.
>>>
>>> I wasted at least 5, 6 hours.
>>>
>>> How can "Ubuntu - Humanity towards others" erases people's whole
>>> hard drive without a single warning?
>>>
>>> Think about it, some people may lose tens or hundreds of hours of
>>> work, or 4, 5 years of photos and memories, just because Ubuntu
>>> erases whole hard drive without warning.
>>>
>>> The following is the install option snapshot: IT NEVER warns you the
>>> content in drive C: will be totally erased. What's more, it is set
>>> as the DEFAULT ACTION. And it says it is "GUIDED":
>>>
>>> http://aycu03.webshots.com/image/32522/2001738602340396146_rs.jpg
>>>
>>> I see that intermixed at the last install info page, it is said that
>>> some partition on your hard drive will get erased. But how do I know
>>> it isn't some partition that Ubuntu will create for me? Why not just
>>> say "it means your whole hard drive's content will be erased" --
>>> best right after people click the "partition for whole drive"
>>> option. When it asked "How would you like to partition your hard
>>> drive",
>>> choosing "Use entire drive" seems like "Yes, I want to partition my
>>> entire C: drive and just make it dual boot with whatever OS that is
>>> already there". And turned out actually it means, "use my whole C
>>> drive and erase everything in it."
>>>
>>> Humanity towards others -- yes, when you make the software, think
>>> about it can be you, your children in the future, or someone not as
>>> skilled as you who will be using it. People don't have time to read
>>> thousands of words of warning and note for the installation. Just
>>> spend a little time to warn time before doing something as
>>> destructive as erasing the whole hard drive.
>>
>>
>> What do you expect?
>> You didn't read the mountains of documentation that come with the
>> typical Linux distribution, all via Google of course.
>> Before you even begin to think about installing Linux, you must do
>> your homework.
>>
>> You must learn about partitioning, the dev structure and all kinds of
>> interesting stuff like that.
>> You see, Linux is not like Windows.
>> Linux assumes you have a brain, which obviously you don't.
>>
>> You have nobody to blame but yourself.
>> Next time read the How-To's and Wikis before you damage your system.
 
Snuff wrote:
> On Tue, 16 Oct 2007 13:44:34 -0500, Ignoramus1841
> <ignoramus1841@NOSPAM.1841.invalid> wrote:
>
>> On 2007-10-16, Richard Urban <richardurbanREMOVETHIS@hotmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>> In other words, linux is not for the average use to perform an
>>> install when other operating systems are already on the computer.
>>> (bait)
>>>
>>
>> Any install of Windows would blow away other operating systems due to
>> its use of bootloader, right?
>>
>> i
> Well not quite. Windows always overwrites the boot partition and
> thereby screws grub, lilo or whatever.
>
> However, all you need is your linux install disk and a bit of
> knowledge and you can get to a command line in Linux, reinstall grub
> to the boot partition and be back in business in no time.

But, the bit of knowledge is precisely what is missing here. This is a
person who though partitioning meant "dividing you data". You really
think he knows what a boot partition or grub are?

>
> Strangely, despite being a former penguinista, I find that Vista is
> alright for me (save a few flaws with my business's web based accounts
> system) and that I cannot be bothered with the challenge of how to
> make linux do what I want any more. Anyway, if I want quasi unix, I
> have an iMac for that sort of thing!
 
On Tue, 16 Oct 2007 11:04:28 -0700, rodolfo.garcia44 wrote:

> On Oct 16, 6:03 am, Summercool <Summercooln...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> After installing Ubuntu, it seemed that everything on my Drive C: was
>> lost.
>>
>> After hours of trying, it really turned out I lost EVERYTHING on my C:
>> drive.
>>
>> So I had to reformat the whole C: drive, and reinstall Vista on it.
>>
>> I lost all my bookmarks, in both IE and Firefox.
>>
>> I needed to reinstall every single application.
>>
>> I needed to reinstall all security update for Vista all over again.
>>
>> I wasted at least 5, 6 hours.
>>
>> How can "Ubuntu - Humanity towards others" erases people's whole hard
>> drive without a single warning?
>>
>> Think about it, some people may lose tens or hundreds of hours of work,
>> or 4, 5 years of photos and memories, just because Ubuntu erases whole
>> hard drive without warning.
>>
>> The following is the install option snapshot: IT NEVER warns you the
>> content in drive C: will be totally erased. What's more, it is set as
>> the DEFAULT ACTION. And it says it is "GUIDED":
>>
>> http://aycu03.webshots.com/image/32522/2001738602340396146_rs.jpg

It says "Guided - Use entire disk".

Now what particular part about "Use Entire Disk" is beyond your
comprehension?


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In the sacred domain of comp.os.linux.advocacy,
dennis@home <dennis@killspam.kicks-ass.net> didnst hastily scribble thusly:

> "lee h" <noti@domain.invalid> wrote in message
> news:MM7Ri.10622$lD6.5170@newssvr27.news.prodigy.net...
>> rodolfo.garcia44@gmail.com wrote:
>>> On Oct 16, 6:03 am, Summercool <Summercooln...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> After installing Ubuntu, it seemed that everything on my Drive C: was
>>>> lost.
>>>>
>>
>> For the simplest Ubuntu install on a windows box, use Wubi
>> (Windows Ubuntu Installer).

> Its a bit too late for that.
> The lack of a suitable warning has made sure another potential Linux user
> will stick with something else.

What lack of suitable warning?
Can you show us some screen shots of this "lack of warning"?

> This is the problem with Linux ..

No it isn't.

> it is written by geeks who have no idea
> how simple it has to be for the mass market.

No it isn't. Ever installed windows?


> Windows would have warned the user at least twice before removing a Linux
> partition and that would be after selecting the partition and saying delete.

Hahaha, oh really? Let's see some proof that linux didn't warn him then,
shall we?
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On Tue, 16 Oct 2007 21:02:16 +0100, dennis@home wrote:

> "lee h" <noti@domain.invalid> wrote in message
> news:MM7Ri.10622$lD6.5170@newssvr27.news.prodigy.net...
>> rodolfo.garcia44@gmail.com wrote:
>>> On Oct 16, 6:03 am, Summercool <Summercooln...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> After installing Ubuntu, it seemed that everything on my Drive C: was
>>>> lost.
>>>>
>>>>
>> For the simplest Ubuntu install on a windows box, use Wubi (Windows
>> Ubuntu Installer).
>
> Its a bit too late for that.
> The lack of a suitable warning has made sure another potential Linux
> user will stick with something else.
> This is the problem with Linux .. it is written by geeks who have no
> idea how simple it has to be for the mass market. Windows would have
> warned the user at least twice before removing a Linux partition and
> that would be after selecting the partition and saying delete.

Oh come on Dennis...

What part about "Guided - Use entire disk" is difficult to understand? I
mean it frigging says "entire disk" right next to it!!!

How can you blame the OS Installer if the user is incapable of reading
the whole sentence?

Also, the Ubuntu installer will show a list of partition / file system
changes it makes to what drives and what partition that the user has to
OK before actually doing it.

So you can't even accidentally click continue and overwrite the system.
You need to do so twice.

Also, how is this different from installing XP or Vista?

Last time I checked, XP and Vista also give you just a list of drives /
partitions and you just go pick one to install on, or you can manually
configure the partitions. How is that any different? Except of course
Vista or XP don't ask a second time just to make sure you didn't make a
mistake. I suppose that is one difference.

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rodolfo.garcia44@gmail.com wrote:
> On Oct 16, 6:03 am, Summercool <Summercooln...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> After installing Ubuntu, it seemed that everything on my Drive C: was
>> lost.
>>
>> After hours of trying, it really turned out I lost EVERYTHING on my C:
>> drive.
>>
>> So I had to reformat the whole C: drive, and reinstall Vista on it.
>>
>> I lost all my bookmarks, in both IE and Firefox.
>>
>> I needed to reinstall every single application.
>>
>> I needed to reinstall all security update for Vista all over again.
>>
>> I wasted at least 5, 6 hours.
>>
>> How can "Ubuntu - Humanity towards others" erases people's whole hard
>> drive without a single warning?
>>
>> Think about it, some people may lose tens or hundreds of hours of
>> work, or 4, 5 years of photos and memories, just because Ubuntu erases
>> whole hard drive without warning.
>>
>> The following is the install option snapshot: IT NEVER warns you the
>> content in drive C: will be totally erased. What's more, it is set as
>> the DEFAULT ACTION. And it says it is "GUIDED":
>>
>> http://aycu03.webshots.com/image/32522/2001738602340396146_rs.jpg
>>
>> I see that intermixed at the last install info page, it is said that
>> some partition on your hard drive will get erased. But how do I know
>> it isn't some partition that Ubuntu will create for me? Why not just
>> say "it means your whole hard drive's content will be erased" -- best
>> right after people click the "partition for whole drive" option.
>>
>> When it asked "How would you like to partition your hard drive",
>> choosing "Use entire drive" seems like "Yes, I want to partition my
>> entire C: drive and just make it dual boot with whatever OS that is
>> already there". And turned out actually it means, "use my whole C
>> drive and erase everything in it."
>>
>> Humanity towards others -- yes, when you make the software, think
>> about it can be you, your children in the future, or someone not as
>> skilled as you who will be using it. People don't have time to read
>> thousands of words of warning and note for the installation. Just
>> spend a little time to warn time before doing something as destructive
>> as erasing the whole hard drive.
>
>
> What do you expect?
> You didn't read the mountains of documentation that come with the
> typical Linux distribution, all via Google of course.
> Before you even begin to think about installing Linux, you must do
> your homework.
>
> You must learn about partitioning, the dev structure and all kinds of
> interesting stuff like that.
> You see, Linux is not like Windows.
> Linux assumes you have a brain, which obviously you don't.
>
> You have nobody to blame but yourself.
> Next time read the How-To's and Wikis before you damage your system.
>
>
>
Bug Report Closed, By Design, Just FYI.
 
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news:selfu4-ije.ln1@ridcully.ntlworld.com...
> In the sacred domain of comp.os.linux.advocacy,
> dennis@home <dennis@killspam.kicks-ass.net> didnst hastily scribble
> thusly:
>
>> "lee h" <noti@domain.invalid> wrote in message
>> news:MM7Ri.10622$lD6.5170@newssvr27.news.prodigy.net...
>>> rodolfo.garcia44@gmail.com wrote:
>>>> On Oct 16, 6:03 am, Summercool <Summercooln...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> After installing Ubuntu, it seemed that everything on my Drive C: was
>>>>> lost.
>>>>>
>>>
>>> For the simplest Ubuntu install on a windows box, use Wubi
>>> (Windows Ubuntu Installer).
>
>> Its a bit too late for that.
>> The lack of a suitable warning has made sure another potential Linux user
>> will stick with something else.
>
> What lack of suitable warning?
> Can you show us some screen shots of this "lack of warning"?
>
>> This is the problem with Linux ..
>
> No it isn't.

Linux's success says otherwise.

>> it is written by geeks who have no idea
>> how simple it has to be for the mass market.
>
> No it isn't. Ever installed windows?

3.0,3.1,3.11,95,98,98se,nt,2000,xp,vista,soaris,fedora,unixware,ubuntu,rmx
and a few I have forgotten.
Which have you installed?

>
>
>> Windows would have warned the user at least twice before removing a Linux
>> partition and that would be after selecting the partition and saying
>> delete.
>
> Hahaha, oh really?

Do you doubt it?
Have you never installed windows?

> Let's see some proof that linux didn't warn him then,
> shall we?
 
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