Re: Thousands wait for sold-out iPhone. OpenMoko OSS phone "a tangled" pile of mess and confusion.

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Moshe Goldfarb.

On Fri, 11 Jul 2008 11:56:51 -0400, Ezekiel wrote:

> "Hadron" <hadronquark@googlemail.com> wrote in message
> news:g57tpv$613$1@registered.motzarella.org...
>> "Ezekiel" <f@u.com> writes:
>>
>>> OpenMoko's ongoing development strategy is to evolve the ASU and FSO in
>>> parallel, and eventually replace the Qtopia phone bits with the FSO
>>> phone
>>> bits when FSO is sufficiently mature. The Illume launcher and other
>>> EFL-based software will be more tightly integrated with the phone
>>> functionality at that point and the Qtopia parts of the ASU will be
>>> scaled
>>> back incrementally. Eventually, the PIM functionality and other
>>> higher-level components will be retooled to work on FreeSmartphone.org
>>
>> Wow. No wonder people get confused.
>
> If you read the article it's actually way worse than this. There's several
> paragraphs in the article where they talk about all of the different
> toolkits, frameworks and API's that exist and what's being replaced by what
> and blah, blah, blah. I didn't copy it all because there's just too much to
> get into in a single post but what a mess. I assumed that they would do the
> obvious/sensible thing and initially release one framework for the phone so
> that people can develop apps for it. Instead there are all sorts of
> incompatible bits and pieces to this thing and it's chaos from day one.

Are they going to have 500+ plus different versions of this phone like they
have with Linux distributions?

Ain't choice great!!!!!!!


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"Moshe Goldfarb." <brick_n_straw@gmail.com> wrote in
news:aputfqmirslx$.1glztejobp499$.dlg@40tude.net:

>> ible thing and initially
>> release one framework for the phone so that people can develop apps
>> for it. Instead there are all sorts of incompatible bits and pieces
>> to this thing and it's chaos from day one.
>
> Are they going to have 500+ plus different versions of this phone like
> they have with Linux distributions?

How about stating the REAL number of distro's....it's nowhere even near
500.
 
DanS wrote:
> "Moshe Goldfarb." <brick_n_straw@gmail.com> wrote in
> news:aputfqmirslx$.1glztejobp499$.dlg@40tude.net:
>
>>> ible thing and initially
>>> release one framework for the phone so that people can develop apps
>>> for it. Instead there are all sorts of incompatible bits and pieces
>>> to this thing and it's chaos from day one.
>>
>> Are they going to have 500+ plus different versions of this phone
>> like they have with Linux distributions?
>
> How about stating the REAL number of distro's....it's nowhere even
> near 500.

Are you only wanting the distros that /work/ counted? Granted, _that's_
nowhere even near 5.
 
In comp.os.linux.advocacy, Damian
<nospam@rabid-dog.net>
wrote
on Fri, 11 Jul 2008 14:48:55 -0700
<g58kor$7uo$1@news.tornevall.net>:
> DanS wrote:
>> "Moshe Goldfarb." <brick_n_straw@gmail.com> wrote in
>> news:aputfqmirslx$.1glztejobp499$.dlg@40tude.net:
>>
>>>> ible thing and initially
>>>> release one framework for the phone so that people can develop apps
>>>> for it. Instead there are all sorts of incompatible bits and pieces
>>>> to this thing and it's chaos from day one.
>>>
>>> Are they going to have 500+ plus different versions of this phone
>>> like they have with Linux distributions?
>>
>> How about stating the REAL number of distro's....it's nowhere even
>> near 500.
>
> Are you only wanting the distros that /work/ counted? Granted, _that's_
> nowhere even near 5.
>

And these working distros are...?

Don't keep us in suspense. -)

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The Ghost In The Machine wrote:
> In comp.os.linux.advocacy, Damian
> <nospam@rabid-dog.net>
> wrote
> on Fri, 11 Jul 2008 14:48:55 -0700
> <g58kor$7uo$1@news.tornevall.net>:
>> DanS wrote:
>>> "Moshe Goldfarb." <brick_n_straw@gmail.com> wrote in
>>> news:aputfqmirslx$.1glztejobp499$.dlg@40tude.net:
>>>
>>>>> ible thing and initially
>>>>> release one framework for the phone so that people can develop
>>>>> apps for it. Instead there are all sorts of incompatible bits and
>>>>> pieces to this thing and it's chaos from day one.
>>>>
>>>> Are they going to have 500+ plus different versions of this phone
>>>> like they have with Linux distributions?
>>>
>>> How about stating the REAL number of distro's....it's nowhere even
>>> near 500.
>>
>> Are you only wanting the distros that /work/ counted? Granted,
>> _that's_ nowhere even near 5.
>>
>
> And these working distros are...?
>
> Don't keep us in suspense. -)

When I saw that, I too thought '5' was an inflated number.
 
On Fri, 11 Jul 2008 16:27:28 -0700, relic wrote:

> The Ghost In The Machine wrote:
>> In comp.os.linux.advocacy, Damian
>> <nospam@rabid-dog.net>
>> wrote
>> on Fri, 11 Jul 2008 14:48:55 -0700
>> <g58kor$7uo$1@news.tornevall.net>:
>>> DanS wrote:
>>>> "Moshe Goldfarb." <brick_n_straw@gmail.com> wrote in
>>>> news:aputfqmirslx$.1glztejobp499$.dlg@40tude.net:
>>>>
>>>>>> ible thing and initially
>>>>>> release one framework for the phone so that people can develop
>>>>>> apps for it. Instead there are all sorts of incompatible bits and
>>>>>> pieces to this thing and it's chaos from day one.
>>>>>
>>>>> Are they going to have 500+ plus different versions of this phone
>>>>> like they have with Linux distributions?
>>>>
>>>> How about stating the REAL number of distro's....it's nowhere even
>>>> near 500.
>>>
>>> Are you only wanting the distros that /work/ counted? Granted,
>>> _that's_ nowhere even near 5.
>>>
>>
>> And these working distros are...?
>>
>> Don't keep us in suspense. -)
>
> When I saw that, I too thought '5' was an inflated number.

Good luck finding a Linux distribution that totally works.
Why do you think they have 500+ different versions of Linux?

The reason is, each one is yet another quest toward making the previous
ones work.
But then they introduce more bugs and the cycle continues.

Linux is a total waste of time.
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Please visit The Hall of Linux Idiots:
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"Moshe Goldfarb." <brick_n_straw@gmail.com> wrote in news:ww19cmxhmkxv
$.o7ktg61a3700$.dlg@40tude.net:

>>>>>
>>>>> How about stating the REAL number of distro's....it's nowhere even
>>>>> near 500.
>>>>
>>>> Are you only wanting the distros that /work/ counted? Granted,
>>>> _that's_ nowhere even near 5.
>>>>
>>>
>>> And these working distros are...?
>>>
>>> Don't keep us in suspense. -)
>>
>> When I saw that, I too thought '5' was an inflated number.
>
> Good luck finding a Linux distribution that totally works.
> Why do you think they have 500+ different versions of Linux?

A still greatly exaggerated number. Let's say 50. It's a good round
number. And that's 50 current distro's, not one's that haven't been
maintained for years.

> The reason is, each one is yet another quest toward making the previous
> ones work.

You are yet wrong again, or just have a twisted view of reality. I vote
the latter.

The reason there are many distro's is because some people/groups believe
that they could do a better job of putting a Linux OS together so they
break off and start their own distro. Call it an ego.

You would probably do the same thing if you had the intelligence to pull
it off. I guess we won't be seeing a MoshLinux.

> But then they introduce more bugs and the cycle continues.

You are trying to use some twisted logic and lump all Linux distros
together as one OS, when indeed that is just ludicrous.

Just like every successive release of a Windows OS, which introduces new
bugs and issues not found in a previous release, any one single distro
will do the same thing over it's lifetime.

> Linux is a total waste of time.

As is replying to you, until you can put forth an opinion that is
logical, based on fact, or generally, just makes any kind of sense at
all.
 
In comp.os.linux.advocacy, Moshe Goldfarb.
<brick_n_straw@gmail.com>
wrote
on Fri, 11 Jul 2008 19:45:40 -0400
<ww19cmxhmkxv$.o7ktg61a3700$.dlg@40tude.net>:
> On Fri, 11 Jul 2008 16:27:28 -0700, relic wrote:
>
>> The Ghost In The Machine wrote:
>>> In comp.os.linux.advocacy, Damian
>>> <nospam@rabid-dog.net>
>>> wrote
>>> on Fri, 11 Jul 2008 14:48:55 -0700
>>> <g58kor$7uo$1@news.tornevall.net>:

[crunch]

>>>> Are you only wanting the [Linux] distros that /work/ counted?
>>>> Granted, _that's_ nowhere even near 5.
>>>>
>>>
>>> And these working distros are...?
>>>
>>> Don't keep us in suspense. -)

[Note: no response.]

>>
>> When I saw that, I too thought '5' was an inflated number.
>
> Good luck finding a Linux distribution that totally works.
> Why do you think they have 500+ different versions of Linux?

Why do you think they have 9 versions of Vista?

>
> The reason is, each one is yet another quest toward making the previous
> ones work.
> But then they introduce more bugs and the cycle continues.
>
> Linux is a total waste of time.

Of course it is that's why you're posting here, right?

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