Re: Scumbag linux advocates support "free speech" - but only their "free speech"

[Moshe Goldfarb.]

On Thu, 31 Jul 2008 16:53:12 -0400, Ezekiel wrote:

> The standard linux mantra... everything should be free, blah-blah-blah,
> freedom of speach and etc.
>
> But "freedom of speech" for the hypocrite linux "advocates" only matters for
> them. Anyone with an opposing viewpoint gets attacked for exercising their
> freedom of speech. How bad are these linux "advocate" hypocrites... read for
> yourself.
>
>
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/1fc68281ff3edfa9?hl=en
>
> (Partial quote - Read the entire post!!!)
>
> <quote>
> Simon Cooke <simonco...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> I'm not going to post here any more.
>
> For the past few years, I've always kept a very strict line
> between my employment and my posts to Usenet. My views are
> my own, and I don't see any reason to bring my employer
> into it. It's none of their business, and has no bearing on
> my opinions.
>
>
> Recently, other posters in this newsgroup - Doug Mentohl
> and Paul Cooke - saw fit to change that. They posted my work
> information here.
>
>
> Doug Mentohl is now taking this further. He's writing to my
> employers, and is threatening to write to their customers.
> </quote>
>
> Then some tin-foil wearing retard "advocate" (Mark S Bilk) goes ahead and
> defends the scumbag "advocates" who did this.
>
> <quote>
> Simon Cooke does not deserve any sympathy. Over the years he has posted
> many hundreds of lies and....
>
> ... it was morally justifiable to post his personal information, so that he
> might experience at least some of the negative consequences that his actions
> have probably caused for many other people.
>
> Why is Simon Cooke objecting to people telling his employer what he's been
> doing?
> </quote>
>
>
> ** Posted from http://www.teranews.com **

Many of these Linux kooks tend to be unstable and mentally ill.

This is a perfect example of what the COLA Linux community is really about.
It's about silencing anyone they, the Linux freaks, don't agree with.

When it comes to Linux advocacy, you are either with them 100 percent or
you are the enemy and they will do anything to silence you.

--
Moshe Goldfarb
Collector of soaps from around the globe.
Please visit The Hall of Linux Idiots:
http://linuxidiots.blogspot.com/

 

[High Plains Thumper]

Moshe Goldfarb wrote:

> Many of these Linux kooks tend to be unstable and mentally ill.
>
> This is a perfect example of what the COLA Linux community is really
> about. It's about silencing anyone they, the Linux freaks, don't agree
> with.
>
> When it comes to Linux advocacy, you are either with them 100 percent or
> you are the enemy and they will do anything to silence you.

'Use [...] the Internet, etc. to heighten the impression that the enemy is
desperate, demoralized, defeated, [...] associated with mental deficiency,
as in, "he believes in Santa Claus, the Easter Bunny". Just keep rubbing
it in, via the [...] newsgroups, [...] make the complete failure of the
competition's technology part of the mythology of the computer industry.'

(reference "Comes vs Microsoft" lawsuit, Microsoft Evangelism document,
PDF pages 45 & 55 on http://www.groklaw.net/pdf/Comes-3096.pdf)

--
HPT

 

[Ian Thompson-Bell]

Re: Scumbag linux advocates support "free speech" - but only their"free speech"

Moshe Goldfarb. wrote:
> On Thu, 31 Jul 2008 16:53:12 -0400, Ezekiel wrote:
>
>> The standard linux mantra... everything should be free, blah-blah-blah,
>> freedom of speach and etc.
>>
>> But "freedom of speech" for the hypocrite linux "advocates" only matters for
>> them. Anyone with an opposing viewpoint gets attacked for exercising their
>> freedom of speech. How bad are these linux "advocate" hypocrites... read for
>> yourself.
>>
>>
>>
>> http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/1fc68281ff3edfa9?hl=en
>>
>> (Partial quote - Read the entire post!!!)
>>
>> <quote>
>> Simon Cooke <simonco...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>> I'm not going to post here any more.
>>
>> For the past few years, I've always kept a very strict line
>> between my employment and my posts to Usenet. My views are
>> my own, and I don't see any reason to bring my employer
>> into it. It's none of their business, and has no bearing on
>> my opinions.
>>
>>
>> Recently, other posters in this newsgroup - Doug Mentohl
>> and Paul Cooke - saw fit to change that. They posted my work
>> information here.
>>
>>
>> Doug Mentohl is now taking this further. He's writing to my
>> employers, and is threatening to write to their customers.
>> </quote>
>>
>> Then some tin-foil wearing retard "advocate" (Mark S Bilk) goes ahead and
>> defends the scumbag "advocates" who did this.
>>
>> <quote>
>> Simon Cooke does not deserve any sympathy. Over the years he has posted
>> many hundreds of lies and....
>>
>> ... it was morally justifiable to post his personal information, so that he
>> might experience at least some of the negative consequences that his actions
>> have probably caused for many other people.
>>
>> Why is Simon Cooke objecting to people telling his employer what he's been
>> doing?
>> </quote>
>>
>>
>> ** Posted from http://www.teranews.com **
>
> Many of these Linux kooks tend to be unstable and mentally ill.
>
> This is a perfect example of what the COLA Linux community is really about.
> It's about silencing anyone they, the Linux freaks, don't agree with.
>
> When it comes to Linux advocacy, you are either with them 100 percent or
> you are the enemy and they will do anything to silence you.
>


Looks like they have taken a leaf out of M$ book. LOL.

Cheers

Ian

 

[Charlie Tame]

Re: Scumbag linux advocates support "free speech" - but only their"free speech"

Moshe Goldfarb. wrote:
> On Thu, 31 Jul 2008 16:53:12 -0400, Ezekiel wrote:
>
>> The standard linux mantra... everything should be free, blah-blah-blah,
>> freedom of speach and etc.
>>
>> But "freedom of speech" for the hypocrite linux "advocates" only matters for
>> them. Anyone with an opposing viewpoint gets attacked for exercising their
>> freedom of speech. How bad are these linux "advocate" hypocrites... read for
>> yourself.
>>
>>
>>
>> http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/1fc68281ff3edfa9?hl=en
>>
>> (Partial quote - Read the entire post!!!)
>>
>> <quote>
>> Simon Cooke <simonco...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>> I'm not going to post here any more.
>>
>> For the past few years, I've always kept a very strict line
>> between my employment and my posts to Usenet. My views are
>> my own, and I don't see any reason to bring my employer
>> into it. It's none of their business, and has no bearing on
>> my opinions.
>>
>>
>> Recently, other posters in this newsgroup - Doug Mentohl
>> and Paul Cooke - saw fit to change that. They posted my work
>> information here.
>>
>>
>> Doug Mentohl is now taking this further. He's writing to my
>> employers, and is threatening to write to their customers.
>> </quote>
>>
>> Then some tin-foil wearing retard "advocate" (Mark S Bilk) goes ahead and
>> defends the scumbag "advocates" who did this.
>>
>> <quote>
>> Simon Cooke does not deserve any sympathy. Over the years he has posted
>> many hundreds of lies and....
>>
>> ... it was morally justifiable to post his personal information, so that he
>> might experience at least some of the negative consequences that his actions
>> have probably caused for many other people.
>>
>> Why is Simon Cooke objecting to people telling his employer what he's been
>> doing?
>> </quote>
>>
>>
>> ** Posted from http://www.teranews.com **
>
> Many of these Linux kooks tend to be unstable and mentally ill.
>
> This is a perfect example of what the COLA Linux community is really about.
> It's about silencing anyone they, the Linux freaks, don't agree with.
>
> When it comes to Linux advocacy, you are either with them 100 percent or
> you are the enemy and they will do anything to silence you.
>

I use both and don't consider myself to be mentally ill, although
occasionally I do lose my temper. What I do try very hard to do is to
keep my criticisms of anything constructive, which does not include
calling the user names.

What I am aware of is that things take time to change and the US economy
is no exception, and the availability of the internet to as many people
as possible is a good thing. Microsoft need to consider their user base
as one of these changing factors, and the reality is that desktop Linux
is now becoming a very viable alternative to the always paid for
Windows. That is not advocacy, it is reality, and if Microsoft push
people to take that path then it's their (Microsoft's) choice.

But I certainly do NOT want to see Microsoft go down the toilet. They
are a major employer and the US needs employment. There are about 4
organizations that contribute to AIDS research. The Gates foundation
accounts for about 2 billion of the most easily obtainable funding. Not
bad for one guy and his wife is it?

> http://www.gatesfoundation.org/default.htm

If I got this wrong (Heard on NPR yesterday) you can probably check it
out here.

So how about we try and put Exxon over a barrel (pun intended) and get
them to part with some of their wealth the way Bill Gates has done.
Whether he has done it for the good of humanity or simply for publicity
I don't know, or care, he has done it.

The Linux community can help by providing the most important thing of
all - knowledge - which is where the internet can help but ONLY if
people can access it. Look at it this way, I just got to the Gates'
website using Firefox and Linux, if the people Bill and Melinda are
helping them can't see who is helping them they may never know. I know
and if you didn't before you know now. I'm watching a video provided by
Vista which is nice but not much use to an African with AIDS.

I am not Bill Gates, nor am I the President of the USA but united we
stand and divided we fall and there's good and bad on both sides.

 

[HeyBub]

Charlie Tame wrote:
>>
> I use both and don't consider myself to be mentally ill, although
> occasionally I do lose my temper. What I do try very hard to do is to
> keep my criticisms of anything constructive, which does not include
> calling the user names.

Sounds like a rational plan.

>
> What I am aware of is that things take time to change and the US
> economy is no exception, and the availability of the internet to as
> many people as possible is a good thing. Microsoft need to consider
> their user base as one of these changing factors, and the reality is
> that desktop Linux is now becoming a very viable alternative to the
> always paid for Windows. That is not advocacy, it is reality, and if
> Microsoft push people to take that path then it's their (Microsoft's)
> choice.

Sounds completely irrational and at extreme variance with the facts. At less
than 1% penetration of the desktop market, in spite of many years of
high-decibel advocacy, Linux is not now, nor does it show any signs of
becoming, a "viable alternative to ... Windows." To claim otherwise is not
reality, it is fantasy.


>
> So how about we try and put Exxon over a barrel (pun intended) and get
> them to part with some of their wealth the way Bill Gates has done.
> Whether he has done it for the good of humanity or simply for
> publicity I don't know, or care, he has done it.

When H.L. Hunt (a rich Texas oilman) was asked by F. Lee Bailey many, many
years ago, why it was that Hunt did not endow charitable institutions or
otherwise share his great wealth with the less fortunate, Hunt replied: "I
use my money to give people something better that a pretty picture on museum
wall. I give 'em a job!"

 

[ray]

Re: Scumbag linux advocates support "free speech" - but only their"free speech"

On Sat, 02 Aug 2008 14:21:10 -0400, Moshe Goldfarb. wrote:

> On Thu, 31 Jul 2008 16:53:12 -0400, Ezekiel wrote:
>
>> The standard linux mantra... everything should be free, blah-blah-blah,
>> freedom of speach and etc.
>>
>> But "freedom of speech" for the hypocrite linux "advocates" only
>> matters for them. Anyone with an opposing viewpoint gets attacked for
>> exercising their freedom of speech. How bad are these linux "advocate"
>> hypocrites... read for yourself.
>>
>>
>>
>> http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/
msg/1fc68281ff3edfa9?hl=en
>>
>> (Partial quote - Read the entire post!!!)
>>
>> <quote>
>> Simon Cooke <simonco...@earthlink.net> wrote: I'm not going to post
>> here any more.
>>
>> For the past few years, I've always kept a very strict line between my
>> employment and my posts to Usenet. My views are my own, and I don't see
>> any reason to bring my employer into it. It's none of their business,
>> and has no bearing on my opinions.
>>
>>
>> Recently, other posters in this newsgroup - Doug Mentohl and Paul Cooke
>> - saw fit to change that. They posted my work information here.
>>
>>
>> Doug Mentohl is now taking this further. He's writing to my employers,
>> and is threatening to write to their customers. </quote>
>>
>> Then some tin-foil wearing retard "advocate" (Mark S Bilk) goes ahead
>> and defends the scumbag "advocates" who did this.
>>
>> <quote>
>> Simon Cooke does not deserve any sympathy. Over the years he has
>> posted many hundreds of lies and....
>>
>> ... it was morally justifiable to post his personal information, so
>> that he might experience at least some of the negative consequences
>> that his actions have probably caused for many other people.
>>
>> Why is Simon Cooke objecting to people telling his employer what he's
>> been doing?
>> </quote>
>>
>>
>> ** Posted from http://www.teranews.com **
>
> Many of these Linux kooks tend to be unstable and mentally ill.
>
> This is a perfect example of what the COLA Linux community is really
> about. It's about silencing anyone they, the Linux freaks, don't agree
> with.
>
> When it comes to Linux advocacy, you are either with them 100 percent or
> you are the enemy and they will do anything to silence you.

Methinks you folks need to learn that with freedom goes a corresponing
responsibility - maily, at least, to respect other's freedom.

 

[High Plains Thumper]

ray wrote:
> Moshe Goldfarb wrote:
>
>> Many of these Linux kooks tend to be unstable and mentally ill.
>>
>> This is a perfect example of what the COLA Linux community is really
>> about. It's about silencing anyone they, the Linux freaks, don't agree
>> with.
>>
>> When it comes to Linux advocacy, you are either with them 100 percent
>> or you are the enemy and they will do anything to silence you.
>
> Methinks you folks need to learn that with freedom goes a corresponing
> responsibility - maily, at least, to respect other's freedom.

Problem is Moshe (Flatfish) has no respect for anyone posting positive of
Linux or negative experiences with other operating systems. Following are
examples of his disrespect for others:

http://tinyurl.com/6m6a8c

Subject: Re: [News] Red Hat Developer's Update on PulseAudio, Fedora Live
CDs Interview
Message-ID: Xns9A7D9779E7902thisnthatadelphianet@66.250.146.128
Date: 11 Apr 2008 18:53:55 GMT

> Dan, you're probably a nice guy, but we get a ton of "works for me" crap
> in COLA and most times it's just people telling lies.

Well sorry to dissapoint you, but I'm not in COLA. I'm reading these posts
in the Ubuntu group. The only reason they are going to COLA is because
whomever started the thread had it crossposted there...and to Vista
groups, which I removed because this has nothing to do with Vista.

I'm NOT a Linux pusher, I still use Windows most of the time since I'd
just installed Linux a few weeks ago, maybe a month+ ago, and still
checking out apps and learning Linux. There are things I like and things I
don't like.

Believe what you want to believe. It's painfully obvious that you are
completely anti-Linux, just like some are completely anti-MS, and have
such strong preconceived beliefs that it doesn't really matter what anyone
says about any particular Linux item, everyone's a liar, and nothing works
out-of-the-box.

http://tinyurl.com/599u38

Subject: Re: how open source has influenced Windows Server 2008 ..
Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2008 03:21:24 +0000 (UTC)
Message-ID: fu3rbk$kmf$1@registered.motzarella.org

Moshe Goldfarb wrote:

> Oh, I see you've met Redhat!!! https://www.redhat.com/apps/store/server/

Why do you continually crosspost to other newsgroups? Are you so desperate
for attention? Is your aim to start flame wars between newsgroups? usenet
used to be a relatively friendly place until the likes of you started
abusing it.

Your immature posting style says so much about your obvious lack of
education / intelligence. I hope it is the former as that can be remedied.

Demonstration of homophobic accusation:

http://tinyurl.com/5hwppw

Subject: Re: I never liked the ReiserFS for one simple reason...
Date: Sat, 3 May 2008 09:59:50 -0400
Message-ID: 1r8x6y6djvmx.9t8hmras1mto.dlg@40tude.net

High Plains Thumper (the name) sounds like some kind of a deranged
effeminate cowboy that stepped right off Brokeback Mountain.

--
HPT

 

[CBFalconer]

Re: Scumbag linux advocates support "free speech" - but only their"freespeech"

Charlie Tame wrote:
> Moshe Goldfarb. wrote:
>
.... snip ...
>
>> This is a perfect example of what the COLA Linux community is
>> really about. It's about silencing anyone they, the Linux freaks,
>> don't agree with. When it comes to Linux advocacy, you are
>> either with them 100 percent or you are the enemy and they will
>> do anything to silence you.
>
> I use both and don't consider myself to be mentally ill, although
> occasionally I do lose my temper. What I do try very hard to do
> is to keep my criticisms of anything constructive, which does not
> include calling the user names.

Goldfarb is a known troll. He attempts to create trouble. Best
to ignore him. If you do answer please ensure that you replace
the heavy cross-posting with a follow-up to a single newsgroup.

--
[mail]: Chuck F (cbfalconer at maineline dot net)
[page]: <http://cbfalconer.home.att.net>
Try the download section.

 

[caver1]

Re: Scumbag linux advocates support "free speech" - but only their"free speech"

Charlie Tame wrote:
> Moshe Goldfarb. wrote:
>> On Thu, 31 Jul 2008 16:53:12 -0400, Ezekiel wrote:
>>
>>> The standard linux mantra... everything should be free,
>>> blah-blah-blah, freedom of speach and etc.
>>>
>>> But "freedom of speech" for the hypocrite linux "advocates" only
>>> matters for them. Anyone with an opposing viewpoint gets attacked for
>>> exercising their freedom of speech. How bad are these linux
>>> "advocate" hypocrites... read for yourself.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/1fc68281ff3edfa9?hl=en
>>>
>>>
>>> (Partial quote - Read the entire post!!!)
>>>
>>> <quote>
>>> Simon Cooke <simonco...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>>> I'm not going to post here any more.
>>>
>>> For the past few years, I've always kept a very strict line
>>> between my employment and my posts to Usenet. My views are
>>> my own, and I don't see any reason to bring my employer
>>> into it. It's none of their business, and has no bearing on
>>> my opinions.
>>>
>>>
>>> Recently, other posters in this newsgroup - Doug Mentohl
>>> and Paul Cooke - saw fit to change that. They posted my work
>>> information here.
>>>
>>>
>>> Doug Mentohl is now taking this further. He's writing to my
>>> employers, and is threatening to write to their customers.
>>> </quote>
>>>
>>> Then some tin-foil wearing retard "advocate" (Mark S Bilk) goes ahead
>>> and defends the scumbag "advocates" who did this.
>>>
>>> <quote>
>>> Simon Cooke does not deserve any sympathy. Over the years he has posted
>>> many hundreds of lies and....
>>>
>>> ... it was morally justifiable to post his personal information, so
>>> that he
>>> might experience at least some of the negative consequences that his
>>> actions
>>> have probably caused for many other people.
>>>
>>> Why is Simon Cooke objecting to people telling his employer what he's
>>> been
>>> doing?
>>> </quote>
>>>
>>>
>>> ** Posted from http://www.teranews.com **
>>
>> Many of these Linux kooks tend to be unstable and mentally ill.
>>
>> This is a perfect example of what the COLA Linux community is really
>> about.
>> It's about silencing anyone they, the Linux freaks, don't agree with.
>>
>> When it comes to Linux advocacy, you are either with them 100 percent or
>> you are the enemy and they will do anything to silence you.
>>
>
> I use both and don't consider myself to be mentally ill, although
> occasionally I do lose my temper. What I do try very hard to do is to
> keep my criticisms of anything constructive, which does not include
> calling the user names.
>
> What I am aware of is that things take time to change and the US economy
> is no exception, and the availability of the internet to as many people
> as possible is a good thing. Microsoft need to consider their user base
> as one of these changing factors, and the reality is that desktop Linux
> is now becoming a very viable alternative to the always paid for
> Windows. That is not advocacy, it is reality, and if Microsoft push
> people to take that path then it's their (Microsoft's) choice.
>
> But I certainly do NOT want to see Microsoft go down the toilet. They
> are a major employer and the US needs employment. There are about 4
> organizations that contribute to AIDS research. The Gates foundation
> accounts for about 2 billion of the most easily obtainable funding. Not
> bad for one guy and his wife is it?



Then why isn't his money go to the USA also. If you look at the numbers
The USA sits in the middle of the number of cases of Aids of the African
countries that are getting his help.. Its a world wide problem not just
Africa.
caver1

 

[caver1]

Re: Scumbag linux advocates support "free speech" - but only their"free speech"

HeyBub wrote:
> Charlie Tame wrote:
>> I use both and don't consider myself to be mentally ill, although
>> occasionally I do lose my temper. What I do try very hard to do is to
>> keep my criticisms of anything constructive, which does not include
>> calling the user names.
>
> Sounds like a rational plan.
>
>> What I am aware of is that things take time to change and the US
>> economy is no exception, and the availability of the internet to as
>> many people as possible is a good thing. Microsoft need to consider
>> their user base as one of these changing factors, and the reality is
>> that desktop Linux is now becoming a very viable alternative to the
>> always paid for Windows. That is not advocacy, it is reality, and if
>> Microsoft push people to take that path then it's their (Microsoft's)
>> choice.
>
> Sounds completely irrational and at extreme variance with the facts. At less
> than 1% penetration of the desktop market, in spite of many years of
> high-decibel advocacy, Linux is not now, nor does it show any signs of
> becoming, a "viable alternative to ... Windows." To claim otherwise is not
> reality, it is fantasy.
>
>
>> So how about we try and put Exxon over a barrel (pun intended) and get
>> them to part with some of their wealth the way Bill Gates has done.
>> Whether he has done it for the good of humanity or simply for
>> publicity I don't know, or care, he has done it.
>
> When H.L. Hunt (a rich Texas oilman) was asked by F. Lee Bailey many, many
> years ago, why it was that Hunt did not endow charitable institutions or
> otherwise share his great wealth with the less fortunate, Hunt replied: "I
> use my money to give people something better that a pretty picture on museum
> wall. I give 'em a job!"
>
>
>


And at the same time he mede himself wealthier at the expense of the
commoner. His greed.
caver1

 

[kevpan815@noreply.com]

Re: Scumbag linux advocates support "free speech" - but only their"free speech"

Moshe Goldfarb. wrote:
> On Thu, 31 Jul 2008 16:53:12 -0400, Ezekiel wrote:
>
>> The standard linux mantra... everything should be free, blah-blah-blah,
>> freedom of speach and etc.
>>
>> But "freedom of speech" for the hypocrite linux "advocates" only matters for
>> them. Anyone with an opposing viewpoint gets attacked for exercising their
>> freedom of speech. How bad are these linux "advocate" hypocrites... read for
>> yourself.
>>
>>
>>
>> http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/1fc68281ff3edfa9?hl=en
>>
>> (Partial quote - Read the entire post!!!)
>>
>> <quote>
>> Simon Cooke <simonco...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>> I'm not going to post here any more.
>>
>> For the past few years, I've always kept a very strict line
>> between my employment and my posts to Usenet. My views are
>> my own, and I don't see any reason to bring my employer
>> into it. It's none of their business, and has no bearing on
>> my opinions.
>>
>>
>> Recently, other posters in this newsgroup - Doug Mentohl
>> and Paul Cooke - saw fit to change that. They posted my work
>> information here.
>>
>>
>> Doug Mentohl is now taking this further. He's writing to my
>> employers, and is threatening to write to their customers.
>> </quote>
>>
>> Then some tin-foil wearing retard "advocate" (Mark S Bilk) goes ahead and
>> defends the scumbag "advocates" who did this.
>>
>> <quote>
>> Simon Cooke does not deserve any sympathy. Over the years he has posted
>> many hundreds of lies and....
>>
>> ... it was morally justifiable to post his personal information, so that he
>> might experience at least some of the negative consequences that his actions
>> have probably caused for many other people.
>>
>> Why is Simon Cooke objecting to people telling his employer what he's been
>> doing?
>> </quote>
>>
>>
>> ** Posted from http://www.teranews.com **
>
> Many of these Linux kooks tend to be unstable and mentally ill.
>
> This is a perfect example of what the COLA Linux community is really about.
> It's about silencing anyone they, the Linux freaks, don't agree with.
>
> When it comes to Linux advocacy, you are either with them 100 percent or
> you are the enemy and they will do anything to silence you.
>

Go Away Microsoft Fan Boy, Just FYI. Microsoft Windows Vista Has Some
Very Serious Problems And Needs 2 Get Recalled, Also Just FYI.

 

[CBFalconer]

Re: Scumbag linux advocates support "free speech" - but only their "freespeech"

Moshe Goldfarb wrote:

> Many of these Linux kooks tend to be unstable and mentally ill.
>
> This is a perfect example of what the COLA Linux community is
> really about. It's about silencing anyone they, the Linux freaks,
> don't agree with.
>
> When it comes to Linux advocacy, you are either with them 100
> percent or you are the enemy and they will do anything to
> silence you.

Goldfarb is a known troll. He attempts to create trouble. Best
to ignore him. If you do answer please ensure that you replace
the heavy cross-posting with a follow-up to a single newsgroup.

--
[mail]: Chuck F (cbfalconer at maineline dot net)
[page]: <http://cbfalconer.home.att.net>
Try the download section.

 

[Canuck57]

"Moshe Goldfarb." <brick_n_straw@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1hl84vd32x7vx$.140r30jrtqa0y$.dlg@40tude.net...

[ Snip ]

Why not go back to the Vista group you MS-Vista fanboy?

Not all of us run Vista, get over it. Vista is a defective OS, sad joke on
those that suffer with it. Vista free for 120 days an loving it. Not all
of us subscribe to Vista because WeSaySo Corp says so.

From a shareholder prospective, pull up a chart on MS. Stagnant with a
slight drop. Might be a good time to put shorts on it. OpenOffice and
Firefox are eating away. EeePCs with Linux I hear are doing quite well.
Take the MS fascism and leave town. There will be more than one OS despite
the anti-competitive bundling practices and rhetoric of MS.

Installed 8 UNIX and 14 Linux systems this week, replacing a full bunch of
racks of WinRot. I was in retirement, but could not resist when they said
we need to replace these MS-Windows systems. Bill G knew when to get out.
You should follow the hint and the smart money.

---------
MVP - Microsoft Vista Pusher
ShellUser - Just discovering command shells in MS-Windows?
X-Windows for men, MS-Windows for Boys.
MCSE, McDonalds Certified Sanitary Engineer
WinRot, specific feature of MS OS
4 Es of MS, Embrace, extend, exterminate and extort.

 

[Moshe Goldfarb.]

On Sat, 02 Aug 2008 17:58:30 -0500, Charlie Tame wrote:


>> Many of these Linux kooks tend to be unstable and mentally ill.
>>
>> This is a perfect example of what the COLA Linux community is really about.
>> It's about silencing anyone they, the Linux freaks, don't agree with.
>>
>> When it comes to Linux advocacy, you are either with them 100 percent or
>> you are the enemy and they will do anything to silence you.
>>
>
> I use both and don't consider myself to be mentally ill, although
> occasionally I do lose my temper. What I do try very hard to do is to
> keep my criticisms of anything constructive, which does not include
> calling the user names.

COLA is not Linux advocacy.
It's a loony bin.
My remarks apply to COLA, which is why I specifically mentioned COLA.

> What I am aware of is that things take time to change and the US economy
> is no exception, and the availability of the internet to as many people
> as possible is a good thing. Microsoft need to consider their user base
> as one of these changing factors, and the reality is that desktop Linux
> is now becoming a very viable alternative to the always paid for
> Windows. That is not advocacy, it is reality, and if Microsoft push
> people to take that path then it's their (Microsoft's) choice.

The reality is that even after 15+ years, Linux desktop is still so far
under the radar it's not even a blip.

> But I certainly do NOT want to see Microsoft go down the toilet. They
> are a major employer and the US needs employment. There are about 4
> organizations that contribute to AIDS research. The Gates foundation
> accounts for about 2 billion of the most easily obtainable funding. Not
> bad for one guy and his wife is it?

You're in the wrong group.
Why?
Because you sound too reasonable for COLA.

I agree with you BTW.


>> http://www.gatesfoundation.org/default.htm
>
> If I got this wrong (Heard on NPR yesterday) you can probably check it
> out here.
>
> So how about we try and put Exxon over a barrel (pun intended) and get
> them to part with some of their wealth the way Bill Gates has done.
> Whether he has done it for the good of humanity or simply for publicity
> I don't know, or care, he has done it.

I loath Exxon/Mobil...
Highest quarterly profits of any company, anywhere, anytime,ever in
history,
Notice it was announced on Friday (I believe)....

Unpopular news always gets announced on Fridays.
Evidently Wall street was pissed because the stock went down.

> The Linux community can help by providing the most important thing of
> all - knowledge - which is where the internet can help but ONLY if
> people can access it. Look at it this way, I just got to the Gates'
> website using Firefox and Linux, if the people Bill and Melinda are
> helping them can't see who is helping them they may never know. I know
> and if you didn't before you know now. I'm watching a video provided by
> Vista which is nice but not much use to an African with AIDS.

The REAL Linux community.
Not the loony toons in COLA.
There is a huge difference between some nut like Roy Schestowitz and a real
Linux advocate who is actually making a difference.


> I am not Bill Gates, nor am I the President of the USA but united we
> stand and divided we fall and there's good and bad on both sides.

If COLA had more Linux advocates like you Charlie, it would be a much
better place.


--
Moshe Goldfarb
Collector of soaps from around the globe.
Please visit The Hall of Linux Idiots:
http://linuxidiots.blogspot.com/

 

[Moshe Goldfarb.]

On 3 Aug 2008 01:19:34 GMT, ray wrote:

> On Sat, 02 Aug 2008 14:21:10 -0400, Moshe Goldfarb. wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 31 Jul 2008 16:53:12 -0400, Ezekiel wrote:
>>
>>> The standard linux mantra... everything should be free, blah-blah-blah,
>>> freedom of speach and etc.
>>>
>>> But "freedom of speech" for the hypocrite linux "advocates" only
>>> matters for them. Anyone with an opposing viewpoint gets attacked for
>>> exercising their freedom of speech. How bad are these linux "advocate"
>>> hypocrites... read for yourself.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/
> msg/1fc68281ff3edfa9?hl=en
>>>
>>> (Partial quote - Read the entire post!!!)
>>>
>>> <quote>
>>> Simon Cooke <simonco...@earthlink.net> wrote: I'm not going to post
>>> here any more.
>>>
>>> For the past few years, I've always kept a very strict line between my
>>> employment and my posts to Usenet. My views are my own, and I don't see
>>> any reason to bring my employer into it. It's none of their business,
>>> and has no bearing on my opinions.
>>>
>>>
>>> Recently, other posters in this newsgroup - Doug Mentohl and Paul Cooke
>>> - saw fit to change that. They posted my work information here.
>>>
>>>
>>> Doug Mentohl is now taking this further. He's writing to my employers,
>>> and is threatening to write to their customers. </quote>
>>>
>>> Then some tin-foil wearing retard "advocate" (Mark S Bilk) goes ahead
>>> and defends the scumbag "advocates" who did this.
>>>
>>> <quote>
>>> Simon Cooke does not deserve any sympathy. Over the years he has
>>> posted many hundreds of lies and....
>>>
>>> ... it was morally justifiable to post his personal information, so
>>> that he might experience at least some of the negative consequences
>>> that his actions have probably caused for many other people.
>>>
>>> Why is Simon Cooke objecting to people telling his employer what he's
>>> been doing?
>>> </quote>
>>>
>>>
>>> ** Posted from http://www.teranews.com **
>>
>> Many of these Linux kooks tend to be unstable and mentally ill.
>>
>> This is a perfect example of what the COLA Linux community is really
>> about. It's about silencing anyone they, the Linux freaks, don't agree
>> with.
>>
>> When it comes to Linux advocacy, you are either with them 100 percent or
>> you are the enemy and they will do anything to silence you.
>
> Methinks you folks need to learn that with freedom goes a corresponing
> responsibility - maily, at least, to respect other's freedom.

I respect other's freedom.
I've stated so many times.

--
Moshe Goldfarb
Collector of soaps from around the globe.
Please visit The Hall of Linux Idiots:
http://linuxidiots.blogspot.com/

 

[Moshe Goldfarb.]

On Sun, 03 Aug 2008 03:48:43 GMT, Canuck57 wrote:

> "Moshe Goldfarb." <brick_n_straw@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1hl84vd32x7vx$.140r30jrtqa0y$.dlg@40tude.net...
>
> [ Snip ]
>
> Why not go back to the Vista group you MS-Vista fanboy?

Show me a single post where I have advocated Vista......

You really should do your research before making an ass of yourself....

For the record, even the Linux loons know I am not a fan of Vista at all.


--
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Collector of soaps from around the globe.
Please visit The Hall of Linux Idiots:
http://linuxidiots.blogspot.com/

 

[Terry]

Re: Scumbag linux advocates support "free speech" - but only their"free speech"

Canuck57 wrote:

> Not all of us run Vista, get over it. Vista is a defective OS, sad joke
> on those that suffer with it. Vista free for 120 days an loving it.
> Not all of us subscribe to Vista because WeSaySo Corp says so.

Some of us, you in this example, use Windows XP SP3.

>
> From a shareholder prospective, pull up a chart on MS. Stagnant with a
> slight drop. Might be a good time to put shorts on it. OpenOffice and
> Firefox are eating away. EeePCs with Linux I hear are doing quite well.
> Take the MS fascism and leave town. There will be more than one OS
> despite the anti-competitive bundling practices and rhetoric of MS.
>
> Installed 8 UNIX and 14 Linux systems this week, replacing a full bunch
> of racks of WinRot. I was in retirement, but could not resist when they
> said we need to replace these MS-Windows systems. Bill G knew when to
> get out. You should follow the hint and the smart money.


Did you wear your red cape all the while?


>
> ---------
> MVP - Microsoft Vista Pusher
> ShellUser - Just discovering command shells in MS-Windows? X-Windows for
> men, MS-Windows for Boys. MCSE, McDonalds Certified Sanitary Engineer
> WinRot, specific feature of MS OS
> 4 Es of MS, Embrace, extend, exterminate and extort.


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[ray]

Re: Scumbag linux advocates support "free speech" - but only their"free speech"

On Sun, 03 Aug 2008 00:21:53 -0400, Moshe Goldfarb. wrote:

> On 3 Aug 2008 01:19:34 GMT, ray wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 02 Aug 2008 14:21:10 -0400, Moshe Goldfarb. wrote:
>>
>>> On Thu, 31 Jul 2008 16:53:12 -0400, Ezekiel wrote:
>>>
>>>> The standard linux mantra... everything should be free,
>>>> blah-blah-blah, freedom of speach and etc.
>>>>
>>>> But "freedom of speech" for the hypocrite linux "advocates" only
>>>> matters for them. Anyone with an opposing viewpoint gets attacked for
>>>> exercising their freedom of speech. How bad are these linux
>>>> "advocate" hypocrites... read for yourself.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/
>> msg/1fc68281ff3edfa9?hl=en
>>>>
>>>> (Partial quote - Read the entire post!!!)
>>>>
>>>> <quote>
>>>> Simon Cooke <simonco...@earthlink.net> wrote: I'm not going to post
>>>> here any more.
>>>>
>>>> For the past few years, I've always kept a very strict line between
>>>> my employment and my posts to Usenet. My views are my own, and I
>>>> don't see any reason to bring my employer into it. It's none of their
>>>> business, and has no bearing on my opinions.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Recently, other posters in this newsgroup - Doug Mentohl and Paul
>>>> Cooke - saw fit to change that. They posted my work information here.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Doug Mentohl is now taking this further. He's writing to my
>>>> employers, and is threatening to write to their customers. </quote>
>>>>
>>>> Then some tin-foil wearing retard "advocate" (Mark S Bilk) goes ahead
>>>> and defends the scumbag "advocates" who did this.
>>>>
>>>> <quote>
>>>> Simon Cooke does not deserve any sympathy. Over the years he has
>>>> posted many hundreds of lies and....
>>>>
>>>> ... it was morally justifiable to post his personal information, so
>>>> that he might experience at least some of the negative consequences
>>>> that his actions have probably caused for many other people.
>>>>
>>>> Why is Simon Cooke objecting to people telling his employer what he's
>>>> been doing?
>>>> </quote>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ** Posted from http://www.teranews.com **
>>>
>>> Many of these Linux kooks tend to be unstable and mentally ill.
>>>
>>> This is a perfect example of what the COLA Linux community is really
>>> about. It's about silencing anyone they, the Linux freaks, don't agree
>>> with.
>>>
>>> When it comes to Linux advocacy, you are either with them 100 percent
>>> or you are the enemy and they will do anything to silence you.
>>
>> Methinks you folks need to learn that with freedom goes a corresponing
>> responsibility - maily, at least, to respect other's freedom.
>
> I respect other's freedom.
> I've stated so many times.

By making all sorts of exaggerated claims and posting anti-linux material
to a Linux advocacy group?

 

[Mark Kent]

ray <ray@zianet.com> espoused:
> On Sun, 03 Aug 2008 00:21:53 -0400, Moshe Goldfarb. wrote:
>
>> On 3 Aug 2008 01:19:34 GMT, ray wrote:
>>
>>> On Sat, 02 Aug 2008 14:21:10 -0400, Moshe Goldfarb. wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Thu, 31 Jul 2008 16:53:12 -0400, Ezekiel wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> The standard linux mantra... everything should be free,
>>>>> blah-blah-blah, freedom of speach and etc.
>>>>>
>>>>> But "freedom of speech" for the hypocrite linux "advocates" only
>>>>> matters for them. Anyone with an opposing viewpoint gets attacked for
>>>>> exercising their freedom of speech. How bad are these linux
>>>>> "advocate" hypocrites... read for yourself.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/
>>> msg/1fc68281ff3edfa9?hl=en
>>>>>
>>>>> (Partial quote - Read the entire post!!!)
>>>>>
>>>>> <quote>
>>>>> Simon Cooke <simonco...@earthlink.net> wrote: I'm not going to post
>>>>> here any more.
>>>>>
>>>>> For the past few years, I've always kept a very strict line between
>>>>> my employment and my posts to Usenet. My views are my own, and I
>>>>> don't see any reason to bring my employer into it. It's none of their
>>>>> business, and has no bearing on my opinions.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Recently, other posters in this newsgroup - Doug Mentohl and Paul
>>>>> Cooke - saw fit to change that. They posted my work information here.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Doug Mentohl is now taking this further. He's writing to my
>>>>> employers, and is threatening to write to their customers. </quote>
>>>>>
>>>>> Then some tin-foil wearing retard "advocate" (Mark S Bilk) goes ahead
>>>>> and defends the scumbag "advocates" who did this.
>>>>>
>>>>> <quote>
>>>>> Simon Cooke does not deserve any sympathy. Over the years he has
>>>>> posted many hundreds of lies and....
>>>>>
>>>>> ... it was morally justifiable to post his personal information, so
>>>>> that he might experience at least some of the negative consequences
>>>>> that his actions have probably caused for many other people.
>>>>>
>>>>> Why is Simon Cooke objecting to people telling his employer what he's
>>>>> been doing?
>>>>> </quote>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ** Posted from http://www.teranews.com **
>>>>
>>>> Many of these Linux kooks tend to be unstable and mentally ill.
>>>>
>>>> This is a perfect example of what the COLA Linux community is really
>>>> about. It's about silencing anyone they, the Linux freaks, don't agree
>>>> with.
>>>>
>>>> When it comes to Linux advocacy, you are either with them 100 percent
>>>> or you are the enemy and they will do anything to silence you.
>>>
>>> Methinks you folks need to learn that with freedom goes a corresponing
>>> responsibility - maily, at least, to respect other's freedom.
>>
>> I respect other's freedom.
>> I've stated so many times.
>
> By making all sorts of exaggerated claims and posting anti-linux material
> to a Linux advocacy group?

Gary Stewart (Moshe goldfarbe), Tim Smith, Hadron (Schneider?) and
others have been hounding Roy Schestowitz anywhere they can, and have
started trying the same trick on my recently, too.

Gary does seem to be the ring-leader, which is perhaps a little
surprising, considering he seems to be the least intellectually endowed
of each of them, but it's interesting to note that they've gone to the
trouble of getting IDs for various discussion sites, and then gather in
groups in order to post their vitriol, misquotes, lies, misinformation,
slander and libel.

It would be much better, Ray, if you didn't give them a platform at all,
by just ignoring them. I very much doubt that they are any more welcome
in the Windows groups than they are in Cola, so I doubt you'd be making
any enemies there any more than you would here.

Ta,

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[Moshe Goldfarb.]

On 3 Aug 2008 14:10:17 GMT, ray wrote:

> On Sun, 03 Aug 2008 00:21:53 -0400, Moshe Goldfarb. wrote:
>
>> On 3 Aug 2008 01:19:34 GMT, ray wrote:
>>
>>> On Sat, 02 Aug 2008 14:21:10 -0400, Moshe Goldfarb. wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Thu, 31 Jul 2008 16:53:12 -0400, Ezekiel wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> The standard linux mantra... everything should be free,
>>>>> blah-blah-blah, freedom of speach and etc.
>>>>>
>>>>> But "freedom of speech" for the hypocrite linux "advocates" only
>>>>> matters for them. Anyone with an opposing viewpoint gets attacked for
>>>>> exercising their freedom of speech. How bad are these linux
>>>>> "advocate" hypocrites... read for yourself.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/
>>> msg/1fc68281ff3edfa9?hl=en
>>>>>
>>>>> (Partial quote - Read the entire post!!!)
>>>>>
>>>>> <quote>
>>>>> Simon Cooke <simonco...@earthlink.net> wrote: I'm not going to post
>>>>> here any more.
>>>>>
>>>>> For the past few years, I've always kept a very strict line between
>>>>> my employment and my posts to Usenet. My views are my own, and I
>>>>> don't see any reason to bring my employer into it. It's none of their
>>>>> business, and has no bearing on my opinions.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Recently, other posters in this newsgroup - Doug Mentohl and Paul
>>>>> Cooke - saw fit to change that. They posted my work information here.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Doug Mentohl is now taking this further. He's writing to my
>>>>> employers, and is threatening to write to their customers. </quote>
>>>>>
>>>>> Then some tin-foil wearing retard "advocate" (Mark S Bilk) goes ahead
>>>>> and defends the scumbag "advocates" who did this.
>>>>>
>>>>> <quote>
>>>>> Simon Cooke does not deserve any sympathy. Over the years he has
>>>>> posted many hundreds of lies and....
>>>>>
>>>>> ... it was morally justifiable to post his personal information, so
>>>>> that he might experience at least some of the negative consequences
>>>>> that his actions have probably caused for many other people.
>>>>>
>>>>> Why is Simon Cooke objecting to people telling his employer what he's
>>>>> been doing?
>>>>> </quote>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ** Posted from http://www.teranews.com **
>>>>
>>>> Many of these Linux kooks tend to be unstable and mentally ill.
>>>>
>>>> This is a perfect example of what the COLA Linux community is really
>>>> about. It's about silencing anyone they, the Linux freaks, don't agree
>>>> with.
>>>>
>>>> When it comes to Linux advocacy, you are either with them 100 percent
>>>> or you are the enemy and they will do anything to silence you.
>>>
>>> Methinks you folks need to learn that with freedom goes a corresponing
>>> responsibility - maily, at least, to respect other's freedom.
>>
>> I respect other's freedom.
>> I've stated so many times.
>
> By making all sorts of exaggerated claims and posting anti-linux material
> to a Linux advocacy group?

No.
For realizing that even a lying , off topic SPAMMER like Roy Schestowitz
has a right to free speech.

--
Moshe Goldfarb
Collector of soaps from around the globe.
Please visit The Hall of Linux Idiots:
http://linuxidiots.blogspot.com/