Re: Reformat harddrive then create and image of it

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On May 28, 12:07 pm, "Anna" <myn...@myisp.net> wrote:
> "Discoduck" <fornewsgro...@shaw.ca> wrote in message
>
> news:32a6a84e-6ff6-4200-9fd5-c71a694d6442@z24g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
> Basically what I am imagining, is after I reformat (the first time)
> and install XP and all updates, I must install True image.  THEN
> create the backup image.  Correct?
>
> Yes, after you fresh install the XP OS, updates, and your programs,
> including the Acronis True Image program, you are free to use the ATI
> program to create a disk image of your system and presumably store that
> image on your USBEHD.
> Anna

I maybe spent money and bothered you all for nothing.
I just reformatted, and attempted to create an image (after installing
updates, etc). I hoped I could simply create an image and burn it to
a DVD (4.7 GB).
BUT it seems XP takes about 8 Gigs (doesn't that seem high?). OK,
fine. I'll burn it to my external. But it seems to want to burn my
entire 80 Gigs as the image-not just the used amount. Is that right
or am I further misunderstanding something.
 
Discoduck <fornewsgroups@shaw.ca> wrote:

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>On May 28, 12:07 pm, "Anna" <myn...@myisp.net> wrote:
>> "Discoduck" <fornewsgro...@shaw.ca> wrote in message
>>
>> news:32a6a84e-6ff6-4200-9fd5-c71a694d6442@z24g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
>> Basically what I am imagining, is after I reformat (the first time)
>> and install XP and all updates, I must install True image.  THEN
>> create the backup image.  Correct?
>>
>> Yes, after you fresh install the XP OS, updates, and your programs,
>> including the Acronis True Image program, you are free to use the ATI
>> program to create a disk image of your system and presumably store that
>> image on your USBEHD.
>> Anna
>
>I maybe spent money and bothered you all for nothing.
>I just reformatted, and attempted to create an image (after installing
>updates, etc). I hoped I could simply create an image and burn it to
>a DVD (4.7 GB).
>BUT it seems XP takes about 8 Gigs (doesn't that seem high?). OK,
>fine. I'll burn it to my external. But it seems to want to burn my
>entire 80 Gigs as the image-not just the used amount. Is that right
>or am I further misunderstanding something.

You choose the entire disk to image, but it will only image what is
being used.

If you clone, then you will use the entire disk you are cloning to...
even if it's a 500G disk and the disk being cloned is only 80G.
 
On Jun 2, 10:11 pm, PD43 <pauld1...@comcast.net> wrote:
> Discoduck <fornewsgro...@shaw.ca> wrote:
> >x-no-archive:
> >On May 28, 12:07 pm, "Anna" <myn...@myisp.net> wrote:
> >> "Discoduck" <fornewsgro...@shaw.ca> wrote in message
>
> >>news:32a6a84e-6ff6-4200-9fd5-c71a694d6442@z24g2000prf.googlegroups.com....
> >> Basically what I am imagining, is after I reformat (the first time)
> >> and install XP and all updates, I must install True image.  THEN
> >> create the backup image.  Correct?
>
> >> Yes, after you fresh install the XP OS, updates, and your programs,
> >> including the Acronis True Image program, you are free to use the ATI
> >> program to create a disk image of your system and presumably store that
> >> image on your USBEHD.
> >> Anna
>
> >I maybe spent money and bothered you all for nothing.
> >I just reformatted, and attempted to create an image (after installing
> >updates, etc).  I hoped I could simply create an image and burn it to
> >a DVD (4.7 GB).
> >BUT it seems XP takes about 8 Gigs (doesn't that seem high?).  OK,
> >fine.  I'll burn it to my external.  But it seems to want to burn my
> >entire 80 Gigs as the image-not just the used amount.  Is that right
> >or am I further misunderstanding something.
>
> You choose the entire disk to image, but it will only image what is
> being used.

So then, only 8 Gigs? IF I do this, does my external need to be
empty? I'm terriffied of losing all my backed up data, there (only 66
Gigs left).

> If you clone, then you will use the entire disk you are cloning to...
> even if it's a 500G disk and the disk being cloned is only 80G.- Hide quoted text -

Ah, I think I see. so Do NOT do this unless I'm willing to lose all
the data on the external.
 
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On Jun 2, 10:11 pm, PD43 <pauld1...@comcast.net> wrote:
> Discoduck <fornewsgro...@shaw.ca> wrote:
> >x-no-archive:
> >On May 28, 12:07 pm, "Anna" <myn...@myisp.net> wrote:
> >> "Discoduck" <fornewsgro...@shaw.ca> wrote in message
>
> >>news:32a6a84e-6ff6-4200-9fd5-c71a694d6442@z24g2000prf.googlegroups.com....
> >> Basically what I am imagining, is after I reformat (the first time)
> >> and install XP and all updates, I must install True image.  THEN
> >> create the backup image.  Correct?
>
> >> Yes, after you fresh install the XP OS, updates, and your programs,
> >> including the Acronis True Image program, you are free to use the ATI
> >> program to create a disk image of your system and presumably store that
> >> image on your USBEHD.
> >> Anna
>
> >I maybe spent money and bothered you all for nothing.
> >I just reformatted, and attempted to create an image (after installing
> >updates, etc).  I hoped I could simply create an image and burn it to
> >a DVD (4.7 GB).
> >BUT it seems XP takes about 8 Gigs (doesn't that seem high?).  OK,
> >fine.  I'll burn it to my external.  But it seems to want to burn my
> >entire 80 Gigs as the image-not just the used amount.  Is that right
> >or am I further misunderstanding something.
>
> You choose the entire disk to image, but it will only image what is
> being used.



So then, only 8 Gigs? IF I do this, does my external need to be
empty? I'm terriffied of losing all my backed up data, there (only
66
Gigs left).


> If you clone, then you will use the entire disk you are cloning to...
> even if it's a 500G disk and the disk being cloned is only 80G.- Hide quoted text -

Ah, I think I see. so Do NOT do this unless I'm willing to lose all
the data on the external.
 
Discoduck <fornewsgroups@shaw.ca> wrote:

>On Jun 2, 10:11 pm, PD43 <pauld1...@comcast.net> wrote:
>> Discoduck <fornewsgro...@shaw.ca> wrote:
>> >x-no-archive:
>> >On May 28, 12:07 pm, "Anna" <myn...@myisp.net> wrote:
>> >> "Discoduck" <fornewsgro...@shaw.ca> wrote in message
>>
>> >>news:32a6a84e-6ff6-4200-9fd5-c71a694d6442@z24g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
>> >> Basically what I am imagining, is after I reformat (the first time)
>> >> and install XP and all updates, I must install True image.  THEN
>> >> create the backup image.  Correct?
>>
>> >> Yes, after you fresh install the XP OS, updates, and your programs,
>> >> including the Acronis True Image program, you are free to use the ATI
>> >> program to create a disk image of your system and presumably store that
>> >> image on your USBEHD.
>> >> Anna
>>
>> >I maybe spent money and bothered you all for nothing.
>> >I just reformatted, and attempted to create an image (after installing
>> >updates, etc).  I hoped I could simply create an image and burn it to
>> >a DVD (4.7 GB).
>> >BUT it seems XP takes about 8 Gigs (doesn't that seem high?).  OK,
>> >fine.  I'll burn it to my external.  But it seems to want to burn my
>> >entire 80 Gigs as the image-not just the used amount.  Is that right
>> >or am I further misunderstanding something.
>>
>> You choose the entire disk to image, but it will only image what is
>> being used.
>
>So then, only 8 Gigs? IF I do this, does my external need to be
>empty? I'm terriffied of losing all my backed up data, there (only 66
>Gigs left).

Only 8 gigs. You can have tons of other stuff on the external as long
as you leave enough room for the 8 Gig image.

>> If you clone, then you will use the entire disk you are cloning to...
>> even if it's a 500G disk and the disk being cloned is only 80G.- Hide quoted text -
>
>Ah, I think I see. so Do NOT do this unless I'm willing to lose all
>the data on the external.

Correct. Cloning is for preparing a disk to be the boot/system disk.
 
"Discoduck" <fornewsgroups@shaw.ca> wrote in message
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On Jun 2, 10:11 pm, PD43 <pauld1...@comcast.net> wrote:
> Discoduck <fornewsgro...@shaw.ca> wrote:
> >x-no-archive:
> >On May 28, 12:07 pm, "Anna" <myn...@myisp.net> wrote:
> >> "Discoduck" <fornewsgro...@shaw.ca> wrote in message
>
> >>news:32a6a84e-6ff6-4200-9fd5-c71a694d6442@z24g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
> >> Basically what I am imagining, is after I reformat (the first time)
> >> and install XP and all updates, I must install True image. THEN
> >> create the backup image. Correct?
>
> >> Yes, after you fresh install the XP OS, updates, and your programs,
> >> including the Acronis True Image program, you are free to use the ATI
> >> program to create a disk image of your system and presumably store that
> >> image on your USBEHD.
> >> Anna
>
> >I maybe spent money and bothered you all for nothing.
> >I just reformatted, and attempted to create an image (after installing
> >updates, etc). I hoped I could simply create an image and burn it to
> >a DVD (4.7 GB).
> >BUT it seems XP takes about 8 Gigs (doesn't that seem high?). OK,
> >fine. I'll burn it to my external. But it seems to want to burn my
> >entire 80 Gigs as the image-not just the used amount. Is that right
> >or am I further misunderstanding something.
>
> You choose the entire disk to image, but it will only image what is
> being used.



So then, only 8 Gigs? IF I do this, does my external need to be
empty? I'm terriffied of losing all my backed up data, there (only
66
Gigs left).


> If you clone, then you will use the entire disk you are cloning to...
> even if it's a 500G disk and the disk being cloned is only 80G.- Hide
> quoted text -

Ah, I think I see. so Do NOT do this unless I'm willing to lose all
the data on the external.


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It would help if we knew what software you bought and intend to use.
Chances are you can still image, with compression, to a DVD.
Remember that the 8 gigs you're seeing for XP include the swap file which
will be compressed to almost nothing.
Why not just go ahead and try to make an image on a DVD? The worst thing
that could happen is it'd fail any you just wasted a DVD-R. No biggie.

Most good imaging programs will span multiple DVDs as necessary anyhow.



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On Jun 3, 12:41 pm, "Colon Terminus" <colon_termi...@hotmail.com>
wrote:
> "Discoduck" <fornewsgro...@shaw.ca> wrote in message
>
> news:53264c9e-cb5e-4505-92c0-04f6ce43f8f5@x19g2000prg.googlegroups.com...
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> On Jun 2, 10:11 pm, PD43 <pauld1...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > Discoduck <fornewsgro...@shaw.ca> wrote:
> > >x-no-archive:
> > >On May 28, 12:07 pm, "Anna" <myn...@myisp.net> wrote:
> > >> "Discoduck" <fornewsgro...@shaw.ca> wrote in message
>
> > >>news:32a6a84e-6ff6-4200-9fd5-c71a694d6442@z24g2000prf.googlegroups.com....
> > >> Basically what I am imagining, is after I reformat (the first time)
> > >> and install XP and all updates, I must install True image. THEN
> > >> create the backup image. Correct?
>
> > >> Yes, after you fresh install the XP OS, updates, and your programs,
> > >> including the Acronis True Image program, you are free to use the ATI
> > >> program to create a disk image of your system and presumably store that
> > >> image on your USBEHD.
> > >> Anna
>
> > >I maybe spent money and bothered you all for nothing.
> > >I just reformatted, and attempted to create an image (after installing
> > >updates, etc). I hoped I could simply create an image and burn it to
> > >a DVD (4.7 GB).
> > >BUT it seems XP takes about 8 Gigs (doesn't that seem high?). OK,
> > >fine. I'll burn it to my external. But it seems to want to burn my
> > >entire 80 Gigs as the image-not just the used amount. Is that right
> > >or am I further misunderstanding something.
>
> > You choose the entire disk to image, but it will only image what is
> > being used.
>
> So then, only 8 Gigs?  IF I do this, does my external need to be
> empty?  I'm terriffied of losing all my backed up data, there (only
> 66
> Gigs left).
>
> > If you clone, then you will use the entire disk you are cloning to...
> > even if it's a 500G disk and the disk being cloned is only 80G.- Hide
> > quoted text -
>
> Ah, I think I see.  so Do NOT do this unless I'm willing to lose all
> the data on the external.
>
> ------------------
>
> It would help if we knew what software you bought and intend to use.
> Chances are you can still image, with compression, to a DVD.
> Remember that the 8 gigs you're seeing for XP include the swap file which
> will be compressed to almost nothing.
> Why not just go ahead and try to make an image on a DVD? The worst thing
> that could happen is it'd fail any you just wasted a DVD-R. No biggie.


Hey there, great idea and actually tried that days ago:). But it
didn't want to do it burn to a DVD, period.
Oh, and got True Image.

>
> Most good imaging programs will span multiple DVDs as necessary anyhow.

Perhaps I am doing something wrong? I would much rather use DVD's.
 
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