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Re: [News] [Rival] Windows Vista Makes Low-cost LaptopsImpractical (Linux Wins)
"Charlie Wilkes" <charlie_wilkes@users.easynews.com> stated in post
pan.2008.03.09.11.49.33@users.easynews.com on 3/9/08 4:50 AM:
> On Sun, 09 Mar 2008 01:38:04 -0700, Snit wrote:
>
>> "Charlie Wilkes" <charlie_wilkes@users.easynews.com> stated in post
>> pan.2008.03.09.08.31.01@users.easynews.com on 3/9/08 1:31 AM:
>>
>>>> That goes for Windows as much as it goes for Linux though. This person
>>>> is about as capable of installing windows as she is installing linux:
>>>> Not at all. I suspect that is the reason for the success of companies
>>>> such as Dell...preinstalled systems which don't need the user to know
>>>> how to install an OS.
>>>
>>> The significant point (to me at least) is that people replace their
>>> systems not because the hardware is too old or too slow or damaged in
>>> any way, but because the OS has gotten screwed up over time. I've seen
>>> the same thing.
>>
>> I think it is more true that old systems are sometimes replaced when
>> things go screwy because it is decided getting a new system is
>> preferable to spending the time / money to fix the old. The older the
>> system and the greater the need the more likely they are to replace it.
>
> That's half true. People think it will be almost as expensive to fix as
> to replace...
Or just do not want to put much money into an older system.
> but that is only because they don't understand what is wrong.
Right - if they really understood what was going on they would fix it
themselves.
> They think their computer is getting worn out the way an old engine wears
> out... but in fact, the hardware is as good as it was brand- new. All they
> need is a fresh reinstall from the ground up.
They often know that - but do not want to lose their data... and might not
even know how to start from scratch with the machine. Or want to spend the
time it would take them.
> Of course, the OEMs make it difficult for customers to get factory disks,
> because they want people to buy new machines. But the disks are
> available.
They are... but it is absurd to not ship them with machines.
>> People do the same thing with cars and other tools.
>>
>> With that said: I have on multiple occasions been able to clean up a
>> system that the user figured they would soon replace and make it so it
>> worked well enough for them to decide to keep it for several more years.
>
> Exactly. I have done that as well. Sometimes all it takes is a registry
> cleaner and a program to get rid of spyware.
What registry cleaner do you use? I often just use AVG and Spybot - the
latter to not just get rid of spyware but also to stop all the BS startup
items from starting.
--
The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits.
--Albert Einstein
"Charlie Wilkes" <charlie_wilkes@users.easynews.com> stated in post
pan.2008.03.09.11.49.33@users.easynews.com on 3/9/08 4:50 AM:
> On Sun, 09 Mar 2008 01:38:04 -0700, Snit wrote:
>
>> "Charlie Wilkes" <charlie_wilkes@users.easynews.com> stated in post
>> pan.2008.03.09.08.31.01@users.easynews.com on 3/9/08 1:31 AM:
>>
>>>> That goes for Windows as much as it goes for Linux though. This person
>>>> is about as capable of installing windows as she is installing linux:
>>>> Not at all. I suspect that is the reason for the success of companies
>>>> such as Dell...preinstalled systems which don't need the user to know
>>>> how to install an OS.
>>>
>>> The significant point (to me at least) is that people replace their
>>> systems not because the hardware is too old or too slow or damaged in
>>> any way, but because the OS has gotten screwed up over time. I've seen
>>> the same thing.
>>
>> I think it is more true that old systems are sometimes replaced when
>> things go screwy because it is decided getting a new system is
>> preferable to spending the time / money to fix the old. The older the
>> system and the greater the need the more likely they are to replace it.
>
> That's half true. People think it will be almost as expensive to fix as
> to replace...
Or just do not want to put much money into an older system.
> but that is only because they don't understand what is wrong.
Right - if they really understood what was going on they would fix it
themselves.
> They think their computer is getting worn out the way an old engine wears
> out... but in fact, the hardware is as good as it was brand- new. All they
> need is a fresh reinstall from the ground up.
They often know that - but do not want to lose their data... and might not
even know how to start from scratch with the machine. Or want to spend the
time it would take them.
> Of course, the OEMs make it difficult for customers to get factory disks,
> because they want people to buy new machines. But the disks are
> available.
They are... but it is absurd to not ship them with machines.
>> People do the same thing with cars and other tools.
>>
>> With that said: I have on multiple occasions been able to clean up a
>> system that the user figured they would soon replace and make it so it
>> worked well enough for them to decide to keep it for several more years.
>
> Exactly. I have done that as well. Sometimes all it takes is a registry
> cleaner and a program to get rid of spyware.
What registry cleaner do you use? I often just use AVG and Spybot - the
latter to not just get rid of spyware but also to stop all the BS startup
items from starting.
--
The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits.
--Albert Einstein