Re: [News] GNU/Linux Desktop Barriers Get Eliminated

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Moshe Goldfarb

On Thu, 27 Mar 2008 02:44:09 +0000, Roy Schestowitz wrote:

> Disruptive Technologies that Affect Desktop Linux

Yea.
Like Windows having 90+ percent of the desktop market.

Tell me, why is Linux still at 0.6 percent (0.8 percent according to the
BBC) when Linux is free?

Something is seriously wrong when a product cannot be given away.


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There are Linuxes that *are not free* , including Novells Enterprise Desktop
or Red Hat, Xandros, Linspire and others and those are the ones an average
joe wants to look for, if he wants computing without hassles.

cheers



"Moshe Goldfarb" <brick.n.straw@gmail.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
news:1dvhepxcjp2do.s8n2pf9vptf2$.dlg@40tude.net...
> On Thu, 27 Mar 2008 02:44:09 +0000, Roy Schestowitz wrote:
>
>> Disruptive Technologies that Affect Desktop Linux
>
> Yea.
> Like Windows having 90+ percent of the desktop market.
>
> Tell me, why is Linux still at 0.6 percent (0.8 percent according to the
> BBC) when Linux is free?
>
> Something is seriously wrong when a product cannot be given away.
>
>
> --
> Moshe Goldfarb
> Collector of soaps from around the globe.
> Please visit The Hall of Linux Idiots:
> http://linuxidiots.blogspot.com/
 
"Olaf" wrote:

> There are Linuxes that *are not free* , including Novells Enterprise Desktop
> or Red Hat, Xandros, Linspire and others and those are the ones an average
> joe wants to look for, if he wants computing without hassles.
>
> cheers
>
>
>
> "Moshe Goldfarb" <brick.n.straw@gmail.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
> news:1dvhepxcjp2do.s8n2pf9vptf2$.dlg@40tude.net...
> > On Thu, 27 Mar 2008 02:44:09 +0000, Roy Schestowitz wrote:
> >
> >> Disruptive Technologies that Affect Desktop Linux
> >
> > Yea.
> > Like Windows having 90+ percent of the desktop market.
> >
> > Tell me, why is Linux still at 0.6 percent (0.8 percent according to the
> > BBC) when Linux is free?
> >
> > Something is seriously wrong when a product cannot be given away.
> >
> >
> > --
> > Moshe Goldfarb
> > Collector of soaps from around the globe.
> > Please visit The Hall of Linux Idiots:
> > http://linuxidiots.blogspot.com/
>
> If 90+ percent of customers are willing to become beta testers and pay nearly a monkey to acquire that privilege, who can stop them. Good luck to them but I feel sorry them being taken to cleaners in an uncivilised manner.
 
Re: GNU/Linux Desktop Barriers Get Eliminated

On 27 Mar, 08:59, "Olaf" wrote:

> There are Linuxes that *are not free* , including Novells Enterprise Desktop or Red Hat, Xandros, Linspire and others and those are the ones an average joe wants to look for, if he wants computing without hassles.

"according to the Amazon's Bestsellers: The most popular items in
Computers and PC Hardware list of March 21, the best-selling computer
is not a Mac. It's the Asus Eee PC 4G Surf. Simultaneously, other
retailers, such as Best Buy and Sears, are also offering low-priced
Linux PCs"

http://hianirudh.com/?m=20080322
http://eeepc.asus.com/global/product.htm
 
Re: GNU/Linux Desktop Barriers Get Eliminated

"Doug Mentohl" wrote:

> On 27 Mar, 08:59, "Olaf" wrote:
>
> > There are Linuxes that *are not free* , including Novells Enterprise Desktop or Red Hat, Xandros, Linspire and others and those are the ones an average joe wants to look for, if he wants computing without hassles.
>
> "according to the Amazon's Bestsellers: The most popular items in
> Computers and PC Hardware list of March 21, the best-selling computer
> is not a Mac. It's the Asus Eee PC 4G Surf. Simultaneously, other
> retailers, such as Best Buy and Sears, are also offering low-priced
> Linux PCs"
>
> http://hianirudh.com/?m=20080322
> http://eeepc.asus.com/global/product.htm
>
Thank you Doug for this information.
 
"Moshe Goldfarb" <brick.n.straw@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1dvhepxcjp2do.s8n2pf9vptf2$.dlg@40tude.net...
> On Thu, 27 Mar 2008 02:44:09 +0000, Roy Schestowitz wrote:
>
>> Disruptive Technologies that Affect Desktop Linux
>
> Yea.
> Like Windows having 90+ percent of the desktop market.
>
> Tell me, why is Linux still at 0.6 percent (0.8 percent according to the
> BBC) when Linux is free?
>
> Something is seriously wrong when a product cannot be given away.

People involved with Linux know those numbers are cooked.

For example, they survey say the too 100 companies, and limit it to current
desktops, the figure might be right.

But that old hand-me-down PC, hobbyists, Linksys routers, Internet servers
are excluded.

Some small business that can't afford the M$ hit run it, but never get
interviewed.

Efforts like OLPC are excluded, as are other countries where Linux
popularity is much higher, excluded.

Many are seeking Macs and Linux as an alternative, and because it is "free"
(or paid if you wish) no one really knows how many out there run it.

Software is now a commodity. MS just hasn't figured it out yet.
 
____/ Canuck57 on Thursday 27 March 2008 14:30 : \____

>
> "Moshe Goldfarb" <brick.n.straw@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1dvhepxcjp2do.s8n2pf9vptf2$.dlg@40tude.net...
>> On Thu, 27 Mar 2008 02:44:09 +0000, Roy Schestowitz wrote:
>>
>>> Disruptive Technologies that Affect Desktop Linux
>>
>> Yea.
>> Like Windows having 90+ percent of the desktop market.
>>
>> Tell me, why is Linux still at 0.6 percent (0.8 percent according to the
>> BBC) when Linux is free?
>>
>> Something is seriously wrong when a product cannot be given away.
>
> People involved with Linux know those numbers are cooked.

Yes, but the trolls are here to spread the Big Lie and repeat it endlessly.

> For example, they survey say the too 100 companies, and limit it to current
> desktops, the figure might be right.
>
> But that old hand-me-down PC, hobbyists, Linksys routers, Internet servers
> are excluded.
>
> Some small business that can't afford the M$ hit run it, but never get
> interviewed.
>
> Efforts like OLPC are excluded, as are other countries where Linux
> popularity is much higher, excluded.
>
> Many are seeking Macs and Linux as an alternative, and because it is "free"
> (or paid if you wish) no one really knows how many out there run it.
>
> Software is now a commodity. MS just hasn't figured it out yet.

Actually, it has. That's why it tries to legalise software patents around the
world.

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In comp.os.linux.advocacy, Canuck57
<dave-no_spam@unixhome.net>
wrote
on Thu, 27 Mar 2008 14:30:49 GMT
<tcOGj.127190$pM4.61390@pd7urf1no>:
>
> "Moshe Goldfarb" <brick.n.straw@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1dvhepxcjp2do.s8n2pf9vptf2$.dlg@40tude.net...
>> On Thu, 27 Mar 2008 02:44:09 +0000, Roy Schestowitz wrote:
>>
>>> Disruptive Technologies that Affect Desktop Linux
>>
>> Yea.
>> Like Windows having 90+ percent of the desktop market.
>>
>> Tell me, why is Linux still at 0.6 percent (0.8 percent according to the
>> BBC) when Linux is free?
>>
>> Something is seriously wrong when a product cannot be given away.
>
> People involved with Linux know those numbers are cooked.
>
> For example, they survey say the too 100 companies, and limit it to current
> desktops, the figure might be right.
>
> But that old hand-me-down PC, hobbyists, Linksys routers, Internet servers
> are excluded.
>
> Some small business that can't afford the M$ hit run it, but never get
> interviewed.
>
> Efforts like OLPC are excluded, as are other countries where Linux
> popularity is much higher, excluded.
>
> Many are seeking Macs and Linux as an alternative, and because it is "free"
> (or paid if you wish) no one really knows how many out there run it.
>
> Software is now a commodity. MS just hasn't figured it out yet.
>

Actually, I think they have, which is one reason why they rolled
out OneCare. Presumably, those who don't subscribe will not get
up-to-date virus protection.

Makes me feel warm and oozy...erm, cozy.

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Re: GNU/Linux Desktop Barriers Get Eliminated

"Doug Mentohl" <doug_mentohl@linuxmail.org> wrote in message
news:6a40e26e-9617-4bb7-8a8c-e1ced9323ab7@s19g2000prg.googlegroups.com...
> On 27 Mar, 08:59, "Olaf" wrote:
>
>> There are Linuxes that *are not free* , including Novells Enterprise
>> Desktop or Red Hat, Xandros, Linspire and others and those are the ones
>> an average joe wants to look for, if he wants computing without hassles.
>
> "according to the Amazon's Bestsellers: The most popular items in
> Computers and PC Hardware list of March 21, the best-selling computer
> is not a Mac. It's the Asus Eee PC 4G Surf. Simultaneously, other
> retailers, such as Best Buy and Sears, are also offering low-priced
> Linux PCs"

The reason why its the 4G model.. because you can put XP on it. -)
Linux runs OK on the cheaper one.
 
"The Ghost In The Machine" <ewill@sirius.tg00suus7038.net> wrote in message
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> Actually, I think they have, which is one reason why they rolled
> out OneCare. Presumably, those who don't subscribe will not get
> up-to-date virus protection.

Why?
 
In comp.os.linux.advocacy, dennis@home
<dennis@killspam.kicks-ass.net>
wrote
on Thu, 27 Mar 2008 22:10:08 -0000
<8DB31019-AB66-4846-9C37-19D827995527@microsoft.com>:
>
>
> "The Ghost In The Machine" <ewill@sirius.tg00suus7038.net> wrote in message
> news:7b1tb5-dkn.ln1@sirius.tg00suus7038.net...
>
>
>> Actually, I think they have, which is one reason why they rolled
>> out OneCare. Presumably, those who don't subscribe will not get
>> up-to-date virus protection.
>
> Why?
>

Because it makes them more money, perhaps?

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On Thu, 27 Mar 2008 09:59:17 +0100, "Olaf"
<keineAntwort@keineAntwort.rus> wrote:

>There are Linuxes that *are not free* , including Novells Enterprise Desktop
>or Red Hat, Xandros, Linspire and others and those are the ones an average
>joe wants to look for, if he wants computing without hassles.
>
>cheers
>
>
If the free versions are not being utilized, why in the heck would
someone pay for it?

Great marketing, I guess.

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Canuck57 <dave-no_spam@unixhome.net> espoused:
>
> "Moshe Goldfarb" <brick.n.straw@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1dvhepxcjp2do.s8n2pf9vptf2$.dlg@40tude.net...
>> On Thu, 27 Mar 2008 02:44:09 +0000, Roy Schestowitz wrote:
>>
>>> Disruptive Technologies that Affect Desktop Linux
>>
>> Yea.
>> Like Windows having 90+ percent of the desktop market.
>>
>> Tell me, why is Linux still at 0.6 percent (0.8 percent according to the
>> BBC) when Linux is free?
>>
>> Something is seriously wrong when a product cannot be given away.
>
> People involved with Linux know those numbers are cooked.
>
> For example, they survey say the too 100 companies, and limit it to current
> desktops, the figure might be right.
>
> But that old hand-me-down PC, hobbyists, Linksys routers, Internet servers
> are excluded.
>
> Some small business that can't afford the M$ hit run it, but never get
> interviewed.
>
> Efforts like OLPC are excluded, as are other countries where Linux
> popularity is much higher, excluded.
>
> Many are seeking Macs and Linux as an alternative, and because it is "free"
> (or paid if you wish) no one really knows how many out there run it.
>
> Software is now a commodity. MS just hasn't figured it out yet.
>
>

The market share argument is easy to disprove, just take a look at
Amazon's top selling laptops (today's figures, 29/3/08 1100gmt):

1. Asus Eee 4G - Linux preload
2. Apple Macbook 160G - OSX preload
3. Asus Eee 4G - Linux preload
4. Asus Eee 8G - Linux preload
5. Apple Macbook Air 80G - OSX preload

These are what people are *buying*, these are *the market* for
sold/purchased units.

What's more, this situation has been much the same for at least a couple
of months, perhaps more.

The really fascinating thing is that the asking price for the Eee has
risen significantly from its intitial launch, showing that the demand is
very strong indeed, and furthermore, Asus report that they're only able
to produce about 1/3 of current demand.

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